User talk:Scorpion0422/Archive 6

The Joy of Sect lead

At the Peer Review for "The Joy of Sect", the automated peer review made some interesting suggestions, which I am going to address one at a time at the Peer Review page. Wikipedia:Peer_review/Automated/October_2007#The_Joy_of_Sect -- The first one is to expand the lead. As I had previously had a longer lead which you then shortened per the norm for other The Simpsons featured articles (which I think is fine that you did that, by the way) - I just wanted to check and see what your thoughts were on this? Curt Wilhelm VonSavage 06:21, 1 November 2007 (UTC).

• Trapped in the Closet (South Park)‎ - Thanks for that, nice to know someone else respectable has that page on their watchlist.. Curt Wilhelm VonSavage 03:52, 2 November 2007 (UTC).

List of Ipswich Town F.C. players

I do not appreciate you passing List of Ipswich Town F.C. players at this moment. I did not have the chance to reply to the nominators comments, posted on October 31. Furthermore, the nominator was still checking the list, because there were made some mistakes. – Ilse@ 09:47, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Your post

I listed the information you provided here. -- Jreferee t/c 16:29, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Blind Ambition (Family Guy)

Thanks for your work on Blind Ambition (Family Guy), I have resubmitted it for review, as the review did not comply with the GA criteria. Cheers, Qst 18:04, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Barry Bonds Milestone Home runs

Thanks for the quick look at my WP:FLC. Let me know if I have responded sufficiently to your comment.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 18:34, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Wow

Wow, my internet dies for one day, and I've missed so much! Well not that much really, but it seems that way... Anyway, the new project page looks fine, and the season 9 drive is really coming on. Anyway, it seems like I've been away for ages, I guess because I havn't really accomplished much this week... Ah well, I'll finish The Two Mrs. Nahasapeemapetilons, and then do something else over the weekend. Gran² 19:03, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Conflict of interest, re: List of basic geography topics

For the record, it doesn't seem appropriate for someone involved in a discussion in a !voting forum to close a discussion. I requested an unbiased decision (that is, a decision from someone not involved in the discussion). There were 5 supporters and 2 opposers, with only one opposer on any particular point. You were in the minority position, and you really shouldn't have closed the discussion, as it makes it appear that bias was involved. You should avoid such conflicts of interst. The Transhumanist 23:11, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

You've misinterpretted the meaning of consensus, especially how it is applied on Wikipedia. Consensus does not mean unanimous. The concerns may not have been met to your satisfaction, but they were addressed. Five to two is consensus. You still should not have closed it, especially when my request was that a person not involved in the discussion do so. Waiting a week for it to close is fine with me, as I didn't expect it to close immediately anyways. Please reopen it and let someone not associated with the discussion close it. Thank you. The Transhumanist 22:01, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: The Joy of Sect

Twice I've started to message you regarding this and then gotten side-tracked and closed without finishing and saving. It looks good. I'd go for it. I don't see anything standing out, but I'm sure if anything does come up, it can be easily corrected. Good luck. Lara❤Love 04:29, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Ironically, I left a comment right when you sent me one.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 21:57, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

I was merely scanning the article, I haven't actually read it. That was just something that caught my eye, because "reception" sections for episode articles can sometimes get abused with unencyclopedic information.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 22:00, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Question

If you go on [1] THAT link, and fix the thing so it says November 11th, 2007, 8:00, and if you click the program info for The Simpsons (Little Orphan Millie) it says Luann and Kirk will remarry. Should we list that? The fact they are going to remarry? The full info program is listed below:

"Milhouse stays with the Simpsons when his parents remarry eachother and honeymoon on a cruise ship. But when his parents are knocked overboard and lost at sea, Milhouse decides to grow up and be a man." - Yours truly, Superior_(talk) 23:21, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

No no, I mean add it to the article "Little Orphan Millie", or add it to the article "The Simpsons (season 19)"? - Yours truly, Superior_(talk) 23:29, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Of course .. but isn't this source [2] << liable? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sup3rior (talk • contribs) 23:33, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

The Simpsons Seasons...

Hello. I was just looking at several Featured Topics, and I noticed the WWE featured lists topic. My question is, does every subject under a topic have to be featured for it to be a FT? Because I could easily get season up to season 14 (and more, as I've heard the fifth book is coming soon) to FL, but I'm not sure if all 19 (or 18 until 19 finishes) would have to be FL'd to make that a topic. ✗iℎi✗(talk) 01:45, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Thats a shame. It seems that it would be a very easily achievable Featured Topic relating to The Simpsons to get. ✗iℎi✗(talk) 01:49, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Oh, really? I'll look into more to see if I can find good sources for all of them. It's a good thing they're newer seasons, or finding information for stuff before the internet would harder... Anyway, I'll probably start making all the seasons featured after the Season 9 project. And, if you have another season project in mind, please tell me which, so I can start on buying the DVD for it. I was thinking season 4 or 7, but it's up to you. ✗iℎi✗(talk) 01:54, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Thats a lot of FT's! But, if it's season 4, then I'll do it. Also, I don't think we'd be able to do all of seasons, at least not until all the DVD's come out (could take a few more years at the least). ✗iℎi✗(talk) 01:58, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

You guys use the commentaries, which is the main source we get the Production information from. Without it, episodes that have no publicity at all (such as the ones I've been working on in Season 9), would be impossible to get to even GA status. ✗iℎi✗(talk) 02:03, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Rockin with The Trews

Hi, I don't think Rockin with The Trews ought to be used as an external link or a source for articles about The Trews as it is full of errors about the band's history. Maybe the birth dates should be left out until they can be verified by a more reliable source. Strobilus 02:55, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Sounds fine to me. That fansite is a mess—wrong dates, misinformation about who started the band, etc. Strobilus 03:02, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Halloween

Allowing for the time difference, i'd say Halloween must be well and truly over by now. I'm just curious, coming from a country where it isn't celebrated, what it's like. Canada celebrates halloween doesn't it? --Simpsons fan 66 22:17, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

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Feeder discography

Hi!, since I see you review FA lists, I was wondering if you could please review the article for me as noted :) . I need more people to check it over and only have two people so far- two away from the required number to get it promoted to FS. Thanks a lot!! :D.Marcus Bowen 15:56, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks very much, I appreciate it :).Marcus Bowen 16:02, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Excellent!! :D, do you have to leave a "support" vote on this page? :).Marcus Bowen 16:27, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Bart Carny

Alright, thanks, i'll watch the episode again within the next couple of days, and u can show me how to nominate it for a GA Ctjf83 05:46, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

You wanna check it out now...I'm also currently watching the commentary for "Realty Bites" and will let you look it over when I'm done, shortly. Ctjf83 16:48, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

ok, when you get a chance, let me know about Realty Bites Ctjf83 17:17, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Did you get a chance to look at Realty Bites...I'm anxious to get my first or first 2 GAs and how is Bart Carny Ctjf83 19:21, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

OK, how long does it take for them to decide if it becomes a GA Ctjf83 19:29, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

List of palms of the Caribbean

... *sigh* There's me again, forgetting to check dates, I think I'll take more care next time. I'll revert my edits and reopen the FLC. ~ Sebi 06:10, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you bunches!

Thank you so much for suppporting my RfA. I was promoted with a total of (44/1/0) - a vote of confidence from the community that I find humbling and motivating. I will not abuse your trust. Look forward to working with you! (Esprit15d 21:29, 5 November 2007 (UTC))

Space Pilot 3000 GA nom

Since you're a member of WikiProject Futurama and I see that you have contributed to quite a few GAs and FAs I was hoping you could take a few minutes to look over Space Pilot 3000 which is currently on hold for GA, I just need a few extra sets of eyes to look it over before the final judgment. Thanks for your help! Stardust8212 00:27, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: The Joy of Sect again

Sorry for the delay. Rough week. I think the article is looking really good. I think it would pass FAC. If more information can be found, that's never a bad thing for FA, but I think it would do well. Any issues that may come up should be easy fixes. Lara❤Love 05:01, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

List of Ipswich Town F.C. Players of the Year

Hi, was wondering about the status of this FLC? Cheers... The Rambling Man 10:59, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

That's what I thought. Ok, no worries. Keep up the good work. The Rambling Man 16:56, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it is a section

Hey, I've been on a geography field for the past two days and didn't have time to add message saying I'll be gone. So I'll look at the THOH page in a while. Anything else major happen? Gran² 15:35, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

I've left the guy a message, if he keeps it up you should report him. Saw the JOS FAC, suspicious about the guy opposing... anyway, I'll monitor it. And THOH was crap? Well the only season 19 episode I've seen so far is Homer of Seville, and with that I don't think I even smiled once... Gran² 16:25, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

LOTD proposal

You either voted on the original list of the day proposal or the revised version. A more modest experimental proposal is now at issue at WP:LOTDP. Feel free to voice your opinion.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 17:47, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

WP:COMEDY tags

It probably is. However, we currently have no list of parent and descendent WikiProjects. How do we go about this? ISD 20:32, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Treehouse

Looks great, although I assume you gonna have some sort of intro to the segments section? I found it pretty confusing. Anyway, its looks really good. Also, I'm redisgning the cast list as we speak, hopefully with some form of casting section. Gran² 21:21, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

here, probably will be nominated, looking at the competition, although Ratatouille will win. Gran² 19:32, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Well history has shown that the Academy loves Pixar and Dreamworks. But, Pixar hasn't always won. I mean Happy Feet beat Cars, purely because of the environmental message. But I digress. Shrek 3 got pretty much negative reviews I thought, and although the original won, and 2 was nominated, I think it would be considered overkill if the third were. And well, The Simpsons is The Simpsons, always has won awards, so I think it has got a good chance of be nominated at least. Plus it does techinally have themes and messages (Academy voters like those), so I don't know... Will they nominate a film based on a TV show? Because, in my view, it is certainly one of the three best animated films this year. Gran² 20:02, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Some thankyou spam, glorious spam

Thankyou for supporting my successful rfa which closed with 58 supports. If i am honest i am rather humbled by the unanimous support and i hope to live up to everyones expectations. If you ever need any help, don't hesitate to ask. Thanks again. Woodym555 15:34, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Realty Bites

Hey. I'm a bit busy, so I can't, but can you fixed up Realty Bites? You just have to fix the references and add ones that Ctjf83 didn't, because I'm afraid it won't pass the GA otherwise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xihix (talk • contribs) 23:32, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Simpsons Wikipedia Reference.

I added a section about snake mentioning wikipedia to the page about the simpsons episode, I don't wanna know why the caged bird sings. You removed it "per previous discussion" I'm not aware of this discussion. Make me aware of it please. ::Manors:: talk to me 23:49, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

THOH

any ref. to the fact that the THOH are inspired by EC Comics Horror tales...if you put that Ctjf83 02:45, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

also, i just did an excessive amount of clean up on the GAC "The Simpsons Halloween episodes", it's not a bad idea to have someone else proofread the article before it is submitted. Ctjf83 03:26, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

lol, u know i'm impatiant....do u have a ref to EC comics? Ctjf83 04:59, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

ok, i saw it, i also added one to the top, where it is first mentioned...also, if u need a proofreader b4 u submit a GAC, let me know, I'll do it Ctjf83 05:06, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

ok, so i can better understand...how many people do we have to get, to go through with your rename or is it a certain amount of time Ctjf83 05:09, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

User page

you some how messed up your user page Nov. 3...dunno if you ever look at it, to notice it! Ctjf83 05:55, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

well on my screen Contributions,Pages of messin' around, and Stuff sections just have a blue headline bar, with nothing under them..i no longer see barnstars, ur FA lists, etc, that i did nov. 1 version Ctjf83 06:02, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

LMFAO, they are hidden by the userboxes, plus it covers up, occupation, the school, and ur GA user box...never-the-less, i'm lookin out for ya! ;) Ctjf83 06:08, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Simpsons Halloween

I skimmed through it quickly. It seems pretty solid - an FA seems plausible, with a little polishing. There are still some things I'd like to fix at The Joy of Sect, but I'll get back to the Halloween page eventually. Zagalejo^^^ 06:29, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Very nice, learnt alot from the page. Prose could use a litle tightening in some places, but the information level is great. Gran² 16:25, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

You could just use "the episodes", or something like that. In most cases, it should be clear that you're talking about the Halloween episodes. Zagalejo^^^ 19:06, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Feeder discography

Hi!, sorry to be a pain, but I'm only one more "Support" vote away to gtting the article "Featured". If you could please go into the article's talk page, and on the FA nomination comments put down your opinions, that will be brilliant!!!. The artice is two days away to being failed if we don't get one more vote on it.

Cheers! :).Marcus Bowen 18:34, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

LMFAO

LMFAO, that is hilarious!! i like how he didn't list any of the evidence that we are the same person. You made me smile, after a long, crappy day at work, thanks! Ctjf83 00:01, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

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Bart Star

Hey. I found this, which I think would go very nicely in a new section, perhaps Legacy, with it regarding the Skittlebrau that Homer thought of during the episode. Just Google Skittle Brau or Skittlebrau, it's turned pretty big. Do you think you could add it in? I'm not sure how, as I've never done a Legacy type thing. xihix(talk) 19:40, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Ah, thanks. Also, wanted to mention that in the commentary, Mike Scully mentioned that "The Skittlebrau was a very cool idea, we could have spun it off to make a new business..." Not sure if it's really addable, but you can fit in if you wish. xihix(talk) 19:45, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

One last thing, there are more articles at the bottom of the page I gave you with many other expirements the guy did with the Skittlebraus that you may want to check. xihix(talk) 20:19, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, the website seems pretty formal and stuff, and not just some blog thing. I think it's notable... xihix(talk) 23:27, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Also, there are products on it like [www.cafepress.com/SkittleBrau clothes]. There's also a website dedicated just to it. xihix(talk) 23:31, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Another thing I just learned is that the Skittle Brau was seen in another episode apparently. I know I've seen the episode before but I can't remember which, but it involved a 33-cent store... xihix(talk) 23:43, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Ah, I remember now, it was Thirty Minutes Over Tokyo. xihix(talk) 23:45, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Not being an admin

just so you know, you don't have to be an admin. All you would have to do is choose the lists and someone else could protect them. Admn ship is not needed for the position. The Placebo Effect 22:18, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

well, all that is need is a LOTD manager. Everything else can continue the way it is cause it isn't a mess like early Featured Articles. Its just that you seem the most active at promoting and i think you would be able to choose lists to appear on the main page that wouldn't make people angry. The Placebo Effect 22:33, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Help?

Do you wanna help with reformatting...as discussed here Ctjf83 02:03, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

well?? Ctjf83 05:16, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

are you going to create a page for all the diff families, like you did with the Van Houtens? It would be nice! Ctjf83 05:22, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

are you saying we dont need them, or you're just not doing it? Ctjf83 05:26, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

curious as to whats up with the remerge? Ctjf83 05:55, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

LMFAO, wow...anonymous like IP, or u don't know...cause i figure who cares what an IP user says Ctjf83 6:00, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Well that is the dumbest thing i've ever heard...I'm gay, and the thought that u got rid of them, cause "they are gay" never crossed my mind. repost the merge, and i'll agree to it...it should just be merged due to 3 talks on the project page. Ctjf83 06:12, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

i was wondering if you knew how to put words on my page, specifically "Happy Thanksgiving" under the turkey I have, centered, but in bigger font, than the standard size? Thanks, Ctjf83 22:24, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

the real one? lol...anyway, i just tried it, and it didn't work, please help! Ctjf83 22:38, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Huh?! it is the same size as normal for me...hmm Ctjf83 22:44, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

why is GuruAskew still messing with the page?! isn't that why he was blocked to begin with...what can we do about it? Ctjf83 02:33, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Never mind, i see he is blocked for a month Ctjf83 02:47, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

I was wondering why you have never applied to be an admin? u know alot about wiki Ctjf83 01:48, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

ok...lol..how did u find that out? u check out my contrib? also what does "Prosify" mean...on the proj page number 5, under tasks. Ctjf83 02:07, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

did u really need to answer like that....Ctjf83 02:11, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

I suppose you're right..i dont know alot of the specifics on policies, and i really don't feel like reading them at this point in time...so i'll wait till i do read up on more Ctjf83 02:31, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

You really need to watch your 3RR...i'd hate to see you blocked again...for violating that..esp. if it is for a week or more, and ur good contributions are gone for that amount of time. I'd like to post the 3RR template on his talk, but then i'd have to do it for you too, and don't want to do that Ctjf83 23:34, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Great job on the seasons, listed on the episode infobox...it looks great!! :) Ctjf83 21:29, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah give me a warning but not the guy who started the edit war in the first place, good admining! --Madscientist013 (talk) 05:15, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Lisa

Good call. I'll be on the lookout. faithless (^speak) 06:58, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

thanks

Thanks, I knew I'd done something wrong, but couldn't see where Jimfbleak 07:44, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

geog list at FLC

You participated in the discussion, and you also participated in the previous discussion of which this is essentially a direct continuation of. You've showed through your comments that you are opposed to the list as it currently stands. Therefore, it would be a conflict of interest for you to close the discussion. However, in general, if the supports don't outweigh the opposes by at least a proportion of 3 to 1, then I would have no objection with you closing the discussion as failed. I intend to source the list, and therefore I don't want featured status to be granted until after sourcing is completed. (Without sources, it would probably just be put up for review right away anyways). I'll source it before resubmitting it. But since the discussion is still providing valuable feedback, please let it continue. I expect more people will click on it when it reaches the bottom of the list. Thank you. Sincerely, The Transhumanist 15:55, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

List of films that received the Golden Film

Thank you for your comment to List of films that received the Golden Film. I added sources to the introduction. – Ilse@ 19:32, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Talk:The Simpsons

I can't answer why the banner shell template was removed. One thing I personally think might be worth mentioning though is that maybe the 1.0 template might be separated from the other templates, maybe being placed underneath the banner shell. I only say this because that template doesn't refer so much to a specific WikiProject, but indicates that the article in question is included in one or more of the print or electronic versions of wikipedia, which is possibly important to all the projects, and also, honestly, can be seen as being at least a little point of pride for the people who've worked on the article. Just an opinion, of course. John Carter 21:16, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Question

there is no discussion on the merge of the Flander's kids, with the Flanders family like it says there is Ctjf83 03:04, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

also, is Kearney's last name ever mentioned, i dont remember it, but he is listed as having one Ctjf83 03:15, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

on the contributions page, why does it sometimes say (top) what does that mean? Ctjf83 03:30, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Luck

Basically I use luck to find them, BBC News is ok, and Digital Spy is actually prety good because they mention nearly all of them. Gran² 07:21, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that, and yeah I do use EW. As for NHC, its only really an occasional thing, I was a regular poster years ago (with a different account) but I got bored of it. Gran² 18:30, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

List of National Hockey League statistical leaders

Hello Scorpie, perhaps you should've discussed 'removing' the flags first. I've opened a flag discussion at Wikipedia: WikiProject Ice Hockey, to see what the Project decides. GoodDay 16:14, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for considering not removing the flags 'til Project decides (I know, I'm being sarcastic). GoodDay 16:26, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

No problem, I'm just not overly quick. GoodDay 16:31, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Quotes

Do you know how to make multiple quotes? The best I could do is this...

“ Lisa Simpson: "This ranch is appalling! It's built on a legacy of cruelty to animals and oppression of indigenous people!"
Rich Texan: "Just our way of making y'all feel welcome!"
Lisa: "You're not listening!"
Rich Texan: "I never do!" YEE HAW! (Bang, Bang) ”

Is there any other way to improve on this? --Simpsons fan 66 20:54, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Don't you think that the references to the simpsons section in The Simpsons Hit and Run is relevant? It doesn't list all the references, it merely uses some examples to highlight one of the main features of the game. --Simpsons fan 66 22:46, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Please stop reverting The Simpsons: Testify

Information is from the booklet. If the information is incorrect, you would need an official source for that. Remember, "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth." WP:VERIFY---- Svetovid (talk) 22:11, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Tiny reminder

Remember the source I used to find information on Little Orphan Millie (how Kirk and Luann where to be remarried) from this link? I plan on finding out what's after Funeral for a Fiend. - Yours truly, Superior_(talk) 04:45, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks though. How can I find a press release form to look forward to, as I continously keep scanning throughout the internet for anything, and the only decent thing I trust are the TV Listings and the Reliability of Wikipedia; which, at the moment, seeing as I struggle with locating sources, I find aren't entirley reliable. How can I find a good link or source to look forward to? Thanks for reply, - Yours truly, Superior_(talk) 04:54, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Simpsons Halloween episodes

Yeah, I'll try to take a look soon. Lately, I've been caught up in basketball stuff, since the NBA season is in full swing, but I'll get back to Simpsons aricles eventually. Zagalejo^^^ 06:30, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

I have a question about this sentence: "Every Treehouse of Horror episode features an opening segment which precedes the modified version of the opening sequence." When you talk about the "modified version of the opening sequence", what specifically are you referring to? The couch gag and the TV screen credits? Thanks. Zagalejo^^^ 05:19, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

So should we really begin the sentence with the word "Every"? Zagalejo^^^ 05:32, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

I think I'll just write a new sentence from scractch. The segment/sequence distinction is too vague. Zagalejo^^^ 06:27, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Just a brief content-related question: Doesn't Marge give a brief warning at the start of Treehouse of Horror IV? I remember her telling viewers to listen to "War of the Worlds" on NPR. Zagalejo^^^ 22:47, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, that's kind of an indirect warning, no? Zagalejo^^^ 02:24, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

RE this edit: I was following a guideline mentioned here. (Actually, I've seen this guideline mentioned elsewhere, but that was the first link I found that explains it clearly.) If we didn't care about the way the sentence sounds, we would write it as "the The Simpsons Halloween Episodes...). However, the two the's are awkward, so we have to drop the one that is part of the show's title. Just wanted to explain what I was doing. Zagalejo^^^ 20:46, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, I could dig through the newspaper archives to see if there are any good reviews. That should help beef up the recption section.

Do you have any objections to my previous reply? Because if you disagree, we could take it to the Language reference desk to see what they say. Zagalejo^^^ 04:08, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Ehh, I don't know about that... Gramatically speaking, "The" is not functioning as part of any title in that sentence. I'll take it to the reference desk. Zagalejo^^^ 04:24, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

I've pulled out a few good newspaper quotes here. I'll keep adding things as I find them. Zagalejo^^^ 04:03, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Animated Program (For Programming less than One Hour)...

Just wondering - is there an award for animated programs longer than an hour? Zagalejo^^^ 00:39, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Simpsons

What is the proper way to merge the Flander's articles (with the exception of Ned) into the family article. I also commented on your post about the kids' mentions of "being gay", and it is absolutely ridiculous that it is mentioned in their articles. Ctjf83 03:22, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Ugh, freaking people! BTW, I commented on your post on Benjiboi's talk page, in total support of you, in removing an references to their "gayness" Ctjf83 03:30, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

oh, and also, in the future if someone accuses of you of removing "gay stuff" from an article, just because you don't want it there, it wouldn't hurt to let me know. If they see a gay person weighing in, in support of you, it would help them "understand" why it doesn't need to be there Ctjf83 04:03, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

UGH, this user feels it necessary to revert my deletion of his unsourced cultural references to Husbands and Knives i gave him the 3RR warning, but I can't rvt again, or I'd be violating, if you want do check out the CRs and see if they need to stay or go Ctjf83 17:05, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

What can i do to speed up my GAC reviews....I am beyond antsy for it to get done! Ctjf83 01:18, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

UGH! i need refs for the cultural ref. section of Bart Carny, and a few minor changes...where do i find sources for the CRs? Ctjf83 22:18, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I looked at the BBC site, and nothing...guess i'll listen to the commentary again, and see if i can get anything Ctjf83 01:21, 21 November 2007 (UTC) so did u say snpp.com is not a reliable source for CRs or any other info...if not, why not, and why is it linked then? Ctjf83 03:05, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

so why is it unusable, like i said, they have more CRs i could list Ctjf83 03:13, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

you know it bud...done! Ctjf83 02:18, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Should Cecil be moved to List of recurring characters from The Simpsons? Ctjf83 05:44, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Tree House of Horror (Series) FAC

I can't believe this, I try and do the article a favor and this is the thanks I get. I didn't see anything about a GA given that its at the very bottom of the notices. And I haven't caused a major problem, all you have to do is archive the FAC then create a new one --Hadseys (talk • contribs) 19:27, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Oh darn. Anyway, just one thing before I pass it as a GA. Do I put it before "Treehouse of Horror [number]", or do I list it alphabetically.

By the way, I saw the clip of Alan Moore, Spielgman and Cloves on YouTube. Very very funny, how good is the rest of the episode? Alientraveller (talk) 19:38, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Just passed it, I put it under TV episodes. So about "Husband and Knives"... Alientraveller (talk) 19:47, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

They took the mick out of that at the end of one episode, as well as "Treehouse of Horror I". So I don't think it'll ever reach that point. I do like how the writers are aware they're not as good as they used to be ("like Homer jumping the shark") but not every episode can be "Deep Space Homer" now can it... Alientraveller (talk) 19:53, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

I can see very cynical fans getting a kick out of that one. I'm probably gonna cry like hell though when the series is ended. Then I'll subscribe to the comics. LOL. Alientraveller (talk) 19:59, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Cast

I'm adding a casting type section to the cast list, and I remember hearing in a commentary that Groening was forced to use Kavner and Castellaneta. I thought it was 138th Spectacular, but I;ve just listened to it, and its not mentioned. So do you have any idea which one it is? Gran² 20:34, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

I've asked at NHC, although I think I must have imagined it. As such, do you have any other good casting info for the pair? Gran² 20:56, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

You know I really think he did say it, but he was joking. I've found another source that enables me to work around it, and if I ever find the commentary I can just add it in, depending on how he phrases it. Anyway, if you ever have time, could you see if you could find a reliable source to say that Lunchlady Doris was reitred because Doris Garu died. I can't really find anything. Gran² 17:32, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Right (unless you have any other suggestions), I'm going to go ahead with an FLC for the cast list, the worst thing that'll happen is it'll fail, an then I can just re-submit once its been changed. Gran² 16:44, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, the layout of the main cast table is probably the biggest problem. I'll put the notes that are there, as in-line citations, and remove the notes section. The only alternate thing is to come up with some more notes, and that'd be harder. And I'll stick in some more free-use images. Gran² 16:52, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Well I'd always thought you could, because the image is "free-use", but the fact that its off the Simpsons themselves means its unuseable. Its written somewhere at the commons "if it free use if I've taken the picture?" "Not if its a picture of a copyrighted character." So its not free use because the Simpsons are all copyrighted characters, and the statues themselves could as a work of art, which is another reason we can't use it. So, unfortunately, we can't use that image. Gran² 15:37, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Query

I notice that you do a lot on the FL page, so I wonder if you can answer a query. List of birds of Thailand seems to have fallen into limbo - it can't be the subject material, since no less than 13 country and state bird lists from the Americas have made FL, and no-one has suggested anything significant I need to do. What am I doing wrong? Jimfbleak (talk) 16:51, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

OK, I assumed articles passed as soon as they got enough votes nem con. Sorry to waste your time with misunderstanding, Jimfbleak (talk) 07:15, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Cleaned season pages

After noticing a post on WP:Simpsons's archives stating how all the season pages look different, I've gone to similarilize a couple of them and make them better. Ones I've cleaned up include Season Three, Season Four, Season Ten, Season Eighteen. Could you please take a peek at them and tell me what I need to improve upon? - Yours truly, Superior_(talk) 01:56, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Simpsons Treehouse of Horror episodes

Cite no. 5 is empty. Tommy Stardust (talk) 11:36, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

FL possibility

Hi. First, thanks for promoting my list (on Finland-Swedes). Second: I have a new list (World Press Photo of the Year) that I'm considering nominating, but I'm less sure of it. Could you please take a quick look and see if, generally speaking, it seems to meet the criteria? Thanks. Biruitorul (talk) 21:05, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice; I'll be working on it. Biruitorul (talk) 02:50, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

F. Topic

The only defunct WWE championships are the European and Hardcore. The others are from the WWF and WWWF eras. And anyway, you say that we should keep it as "current champions" (even though thats not the title) because we'd have to work on all the other list of champions. I find that it is necessary that we work on those lists. You are taking away from the purpose of Wikipedia, when you say that "it's too much work to perfect more lists". Lex ^T/_C Guest Book 23:58, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Also, you don't have to include all of them. You should only include the articles that are good enough. as per Wikipedia:Featured topicsLex ^T/_C Guest Book 23:59, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Well then, European Championships can stay on. And I can make sure that Hardcore Champions becomes an FL. Lex ^T/_C Guest Book 00:04, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Then I suggest a rename to "List of Active championship title histories of the WWE" Lex ^T/_C Guest Book 00:12, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Vanier Cup

I'm not sure why you removed the records from the page. I see you noted it was due to not being cited. However, all those records were compiled by me simply by going through the champions list. Ergo, they may not be "official" but they are still legitimate and should remain part of that article. As was mentioned above, these are not your articles. Before removing something that has been on the page for a year without question, put something on the talk page first and let those who authored the article explain it. So I am reverting your removal and expect you to post on talk page before unilaterally removing it again. Shootmaster 44 (talk) 08:56, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

I read what you posted and its not original research per se. Its simply see one thing and compile it. The reason I say they should stay is that many members of CISFootball.org (i.e. fans, mediatypes and players) find that section the most useful of the bunch. In fact, I believe some of the CIS teams have used that section in their radio broadcasts. So I find it a legitimate thing to have one there. Perhaps, it could be split off into a list page then. Plus, I'm sure if you dig around the CISport.ca and VanierCup.com you can find the same thing. Shootmaster 44 (talk) 05:18, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Image

[3] - I know its not free-use (yet, I'm gonna message the uploaded) but it is Tress MacNeille isn't it? Because it doesn't actually say... The guy also has a Julie Kavner image, so I try and get that as well. Gran² 15:20, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Right I've been doing a lot of image work today, I created a user sub page (which when finished we could move to a project sub-page) of pretty much every free use image we have (here). I did it principally to determine which people we needed images for, and I know alot of the staff will never have them I managed to find a fair few which I've asked the authors to change the license. So far I've only had one response, and that's on a better image of James L. Brooks (the current one's licensing I'm to sure about). But on top of that I've asked about images of: Harry Shearer, Julie Kavner, Tress, Mike Reiss, David X. Cohen, John Di Maggio, Alf Clausen, Pamela Hayden, Maggie Roswell, Russi Taylor, Bill Odenkirk and Dana Gould. How many will be changed so their useable is anyone's guess. Gran² 17:02, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Kwik-E-Mart

Hello. I have posted some comments at Talk:Kwik-E-Mart and would greatly appreciate your response. Macy's123 18:50, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Funeral For a Fiend

So how was the episode? Alientraveller (talk) 12:55, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

I didn't care for "24 Minutes" funnily enough: I've never watched 24, and I don't find nuclear destruction particularly funny either. But "Moonshine"'s plot sounds like a great film parody. Eternal Sunshine was a fun flick. I hope it's all good once Sky One starts airing these: new episodes are on hiatus. Alientraveller (talk) 15:36, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Cultural references

Would you mind, since you seem to keen on removing what's added, expanding on what is and isn't a cultural reference on the talk page on Funeral for a Fiend? Referencing previous episodes should be in the article, as that is one of the many inside jokes among Simpsons fans. Irk _{Come in for a drink!} 19:37, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Copy edit

May you copy edit, or have someone copy edit, Dumbbell Indemnity? Mostly the Plot section. I'm really horrible at writing them... I will also reference everything tomorrow and send it in for WP:GAC. xihix(talk) 06:27, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Professional wrestling newsletter

The WikiProject Professional wrestling newsletter Issue II — November 25, 2007

Project News Bobby Eaton has been elevated to Featured article status. Its nomination page can be viewed here. In Your House 1 is currently a Featured Article candidate. Its nomination page can be found here. IWGP World Heavyweight Championship and NWA World Women's Championship have been elevated to Featured list status. Their respective nomination pages can be viewed here and here. Melina Perez and One Night Stand (2006) have been elevated to Good article status. Amy Dumas, Briscoe Brothers, Don Kent (wrestler), Mickie James, Randy Orton, Royal Rumble (1994), and WrestleMania III are currently Good article candidates. Current Events Booker Huffman and Sharmell Sullivan-Huffman (known as Booker T and Sharmell, respectively) debuted in Total Nonstop Action Wrestling on November 11 2007 at the Genesis pay-per-view, nearly three weeks after being released from World Wrestling Entertainment. WWE released the video game WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2008 on November 13 2007. The game is available for the PlayStation 2, PlayStation 3, PSP, Xbox 360, Nintendo DS and Wii consoles. John Cena takes heat from CNN after an interview involving mentions of steroids. Christopher Irvine (known as Chris Jericho) returned to WWE after a two year hiatus, debuting on the November 19 2007 edition of RAW following months of speculation. Matt Hardy suffered from an inflamed appendix, rendering him unable to wrestle at Survivor Series and possibly for 8-10 weeks. Collaboration of the Week The monthly featured article collaboration for November 25 - December 1 is Triple H. Please help improve it to match the quality of an ideal Wikipedia professional wrestling related article. The next article for collaboration will be chosen on Sunday, December 2. Last week's collaboration of the week was History of professional wrestling. Cast your vote to select the collaboration for next week! — Nominate an article that could be greatly improved!

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Simpsons

Don't know if u got this b4 the archive...but does Cecil need to be listed as recurring characters or was his part not big enough Ctjf83 01:10, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

well? lol Ctjf83 02:50, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

lol, well if u don't do it, i won't...we can wait for another appearance or until someone else does it Ctjf83 02:54, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Should one of us just go ahead and merge the Flander's pages....it was already decided Ctjf83 22:09, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

well?Ctjf83 03:12, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

go ahead, that way i can see the proper way to do it Ctjf83 03:27, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

uhh...you better look at this!! [4] Ctjf83 02:30, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

lol, thats good...r u gonna report it to get the user blocked? Ctjf83 02:34, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

what can be done about these obvious sock puppets...This user is doing the same exact edits as this blocked user, is there a sock puppet notice board like the vand. notice board? Ctjf83 02:36, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

With something this serious and obvious that it is harassment, admins should be notified right away. Cirt 02:56, 2 December 2007 (UTC).

• FYI - WP:AIV - Diff, and then Diff. Cirt 03:52, 2 December 2007 (UTC).

Simpsons triple crown

• Over at User:Durova/Triple crown winner's circle, you can see that Durova (talk · contribs) accepts any Featured Content, not just articles. By my count, that means the editors that have contributed FA material to The Simpsons project include you and myself, and then there's Gran2 (talk · contribs), Xihix (talk · contribs), and Maitch (talk · contribs). (Congrats to you all, by the way, I checked and you helped promote a ton of featured content. Very impressive!) At any rate, we can either: Ask Durova to lower the requirement to five editors, instead of six, and then contact each editor and help them get their requisite GA or DYK - Or, we'll have to see if there is another editor on Wikipedia:WikiProject The Simpsons that is close to/willing to get something to Featured quality, be it an article about an episode, list, etc. Thoughts? My inclination is to have one of us ask Durova to lower it to five editors from the proposed six. Cirt (talk) 06:52, 28 November 2007 (UTC).
  • Looks like we're continuing more of this discussion at the Project Drive talk page. Cirt (talk) 10:20, 28 November 2007 (UTC).

Royal Rumble (2008) image

What is the exact source of the image (i.e. the URL)? That should go in the source spot of the FUR, not just the general website. TJ Spyke 10:53, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Images discussed in text

Just being an image of a key plot event does not mean the image itself is discussed in the text. On that logic you could justify an complete visual storyboard everytime we write a plot synopsis. The rationale on the image page should detail exactly what about the article (of significance) the image is illustrating, and how it greatly increases the readers understanding of that topic. ed g2s • talk 11:29, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

The vandal has started a discussion at Wikipedia:Non-free content#Screenshots / promo images in TV episode list infoboxes. Alientraveller (talk) 11:58, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Treehouse of Horror

Did you find anything here worth adding to the Reception section?

I think the article still needs some copyediting; I'll do a little bit tonight. I did post a message at the ref desk about the italicizing/capitalizing in the opening sentence, but we haven't come to a complete consensus. So I dunno about that... Zagalejo^^^ 02:17, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Possibly. There are lots of newspaper articles to sort through; I haven't gotten to the newer stuff. I'll take a look soon. Zagalejo^^^ 02:38, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

The best thing I've found is this. That article is behind a paywall, but here's the most relevant chunk of it:

"Watching the fifteenth installment, airing 7 p.m. Sunday, it's hard to avoid the conclusion that Halloween is pretty much played out as a comic premise for the Simpsons gang.

Over the years, the Treehouse vignettes have contributed some of the finest, funniest moments to the Simpsons oeuvre - the classic retelling of Poe's The Raven, the monkey's paw that grants its possessor three wishes, the magic hammock Homer uses to clone himself, the high-tech home with the voice of Pierce Brosnan that develops a deadly crush on Marge.

But this year's installment adds nothing to that list; indeed, this year's threesome is as unfunny as anything the series has ever done...." Zagalejo^^^ 04:18, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Do you want me to look for more? Also, someone at the ref desk commented that "Treehouse of Horror" should be in quotes, rather than italics. Do you have any preference about that? Zagalejo^^^ 03:53, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Another thing. When discussing the end credits of THOH I, we say, "Originally it was supposed to use a Theramin, but one could not hit all of the necessary notes." Does this mean that it is impossible for anyone to hit the notes? Zagalejo^^^ 04:14, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, that's referring to THOH XV. I really couldn't find any articles that described a general decline in quality. Zagalejo^^^ 10:59, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

I only briefly looked at it, as I'm busy doing stuff in real life, but it doesn't look bad. A copyedit is never too bad, and I look at it a bit later once I finish everything else... Sorry if this answer was of unsatisfactory. xihix(talk) 02:44, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

• I commented at Wikipedia:Peer review/Treehouse of Horror (series)/archive1. Remember to add the Peer Review to the article history after it's been archived, but I'd suggest working on all the points from the Peer Review and Semi-Automated Peer Review suggestions, which I usually find are at least somewhat relevant. You should note those changes on the Peer Review page, for posterity. Thanks for this great work, I love the Treehouse of Horror episodes! Cirt (talk) 05:45, 30 November 2007 (UTC).
  • While we are on the subject of potential FACs, do you think I should nominate Lisa the Skeptic? Otherwise I'll nominate something else unrelated to Simpsons, and wait for someone else to mention something about the next FAC nom candidate at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject The Simpsons/Featured topic Drive. Cirt (talk) 07:08, 30 November 2007 (UTC). Cirt (talk) 07:08, 30 November 2007 (UTC).

Funeral for a Fiend

I'm all for proper sourcing - and if you look at my edits - you will see that I am a longtime and a valuable contributor. As for sourcing this one cultural reference - it is so obvious to me (and probably to most people) that a need to source it, seems like a joke to me. Maybe that offended you - but this I did not mean to do. I am just perplexed that everything else in the cultural references section is original research and some references are completely obscure ("Moe runs behinds the Hibbert's car and watches Sesame Street where Derek Jeter guest stars."),and this extremly obvious reference to an image that became a defining icon of the sixties or as time magazine once declared "It’s one of the most famous pictures in the American History." should be properly referenced? That seemed like a joke to me. --noclador 21:46, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, I'm a Italian living in Austria and was born 14 years after JFK's assassination :-) I got the JFK reference immediately and Derek Jeter - still no clue, who that is... as for reference: when I first posted the reference i linked from Kennedy's name to the picture of his son saluting! I think that is reference enough- as people can see the JFK Jr. image for themselves. --noclador 22:39, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

I just saw that you once again changed the reference section: Do you actually read what people write??? The "Oh, the hilarity!" reference to broadcaster Herbert Morrison's famous cry of "Oh, the humanity!" when the Hindenburg crashed is in the Hindenburg article here on wikipedia! Go to LZ 129 Hindenburg#Historic newsreel coverage and read it there! Have you actually seen the episode??? To me it seems you did not yet see it - as Olbermann calls Marge Simpson clearly "Worst Person in the World" even showing pictures of the devil (subtitled worse) Mr. Burns (subtitled worser) and Marge (subtitled worst). What source besides the episode do you want? isn't that enough??? --noclador 22:49, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

"using the episode itself as a ref isn't acceptable" it isn't??? now that makes everything really difficult. In that case most of the cultural references will never be sourced properly. I thought, that if it is in the episode, that you than need to find the corresponding cultural event (i.e. the Hindenburg line - link to the Hindenburg article, where the line is sourced, that's it I thought.) Well, in that case: Good work to you, as I can not (and probably will never) be able to provide you with such an external source :-( --noclador 23:22, 30 November 2007 (UTC)