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Please use edit summaries

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Please make sure to include an edit summary. Please provide one before saving your changes to an article, as the summaries are quite helpful to people browsing an article's history. Thanks! Zodon (talk) 05:23, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

I made sure to add them once I saw this. Thank you for telling me! Scb3 (talk) 07:13, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Suggestion for working on Abortion in Romania/Decreţei

Hi. I saw your notes on talk:Decreţei and talk:Abortion in Romania that you were planning to draft some changes in your sandbox. Just a quick thought - when incorporating changes - please try to make it clear where material came from/goes to. (i.e., make it easy to follow from the edit history and differences in the articles where information came from, where it went to, what was deleted (if anything) and why). This is especially important with articles about which contention is common, such as those about abortion.

For instance, if you write a whole new section in sandbox and just paste it in - fine. But if you do a bunch of rearrangement, rewriting, etc. in sandbox and then paste that over the old article it can be much harder for other editors to see what the actual changes are. Don't want to discourage you from working on this, just a suggestion to bear in mind. (I tend to use sandbox to draft new material, or try out ideas, but once I know what I want to do, do tweaks or rearrangements of the article on the article itself.) Zodon (talk) 06:38, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, I think I see what you mean, but I'm unsure. Please note that I am doing this as part of a class assignment, and the only reason that the entire article is in my sandbox is because my professor wanted it to be that way. I do not intend to copy the coding for the entire article; rather, I mean to paste in what was going to be changed/added (in this case, the section on the communist regime) and leave the rest article alone, adding the edit summaries to describe what I did and making sure I also left comments on the Talk page. If this is what you were referring to, then please rest assured that I am not going to touch the coding for parts of the article I don't intend on reworking in any way. In fact, now that I've turned in what I need to, I've gone in and removed the portions I'm not working on so that it's easier for people to see what I'm doing.

If this is not what you were referring to - and I suspect that it was only a part of your concern - you leave me wondering how to go about doing this. Most of what was written in Decreţei I admittedly rewrote in my sandbox, as it wasn't sourced and I felt uncomfortable leaving it in without citations. Thus, most of the original text is gone...but this discussion is also going on on talk:Decreţei, so I guess I'll stop here and continue this part of the discussion over there. Scb3 (talk) 07:32, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

I read over your sandbox section on Abortion in Romania. Looks good. I expect just copying and pasting over the relevant section in Abortion in Romania should be clear enough.

A few small notes (on a regular article I would just fix, but since in your sandbox I am not sure of the etiquette):

• "The sudden effect of this policy was a transition" - would be clearer as "The effect of this policy was a sudden transition" (this is in the original text).
• "could not bribed" - word missing (be?)

One thing that I find puzzling about the presentation is where it says after the initial sudden rise the birth rate "fell back to 14.3% in 1983." This leaves me with the question - why did it go back to the pre-decree birth rate? It might be clearer to either add a short explanation there (if the sources explain), or to move that part of the birth rate to a little later in the coverage, and explain it then. (Various changes in policy and in practice are mentioned, try to integrate it with them.)

A smaller matter - what sort of birth rate is this expressed as a percent? (Percent of what?) There are all sorts of birth rates (basically different denominators - per total population, per women, per women reproductive age, ...). It is well to be clear about exactly which one is being used.

Those are small points that could help improve it. But looks good. Really belongs in a more general article on Family Planning or Reproductive Health in Romania (no problem with it being in Abortion, just sort of buried there).

Hope this helps. Zodon (talk) 03:21, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Your suggestions did help! Thank you so much.Scb3 (talk) 03:33, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

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