User talk:Sca/Archive09

Winkel

Hey, what is that naked woman doing on my well?? — Probably up to no good....

Interesting. Corner is hörn, and vinkel = would be angle, -well, in Swedish. Hafspajen (talk) 00:54, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, Winkel means angle in Ger., too, but in vernacular/slang can mean a small corner [1] or part of a larger area,[2] as I understand it. The usual German for corner is of course Ecke. Sca (talk) 15:12, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Yes, that was interesting. One can't know slang words if not regulary speaks one language. Hafspajen (talk) 15:32, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

That's my problem with German — normally I only read it, never have anyone to speak it with. My brother-in-law here does speak it some, though. Sca (talk) 15:36, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

PS: — "Um die Ecke denken" seems to be the German equivalent of "thinking outside the box." [3] Sca (talk) 15:24, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

You tell me when you are ready with Buhacheck or whatshisname, Blahacheck... OK, haven't learned that yet. Not watching that page. Eh, Baluschek. Hafspajen (talk) 18:12, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

You see, I don't even know his name, and sometimes I think that it is a shame that talented artists are not recognized as they should have been... Camille Pissaro, for example, he has a name. But this guy is better than him. Hafspajen (talk) 20:40, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Baluschek — sounds almost Slavic, doesn't it? Sca (talk) 03:20, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Sca, why is putlocker gone mad? can't find one movie free online any more _ thought of watching I Spy.. But can't find any and putlocker is crashing my computer - it did that like 5 times now. I was OK before... Hafspajen (talk) 21:09, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Keine Ahnung ... Я не знаю. Sca (talk) 03:20, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Will you put some captions in for the new pictures I added at Otto Scholderer. The files has only German text, and my German is not 100%. Hafspajen (talk) 10:05, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

 Done (Like one at right best.)

BTW, Früstückstisch = breakfast table. Sca (talk) 17:45, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Do you want years in parentheses? Sca (talk) 17:19, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. And no, actually I don't use parantheses. Just a lot of extra work. Hafspajen (talk) 17:20, 26 June 2014

Ach, du Faulpelz! Sca (talk) 17:23, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Was ist Faulpelz? Faultmaker? Hafspajen (talk) 17:26, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Idiomatic for a lazy person. (Faul = lazy, Pelz = pelt, i.e. a fur rug, thus someone who lies around like a rug on the floor.) Sca (talk) 17:32, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Tschssttsss. Hafspajen (talk) 21:16, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

OOps, I might have been a little unclear. I do use to put in the years, but only the years and don't use parantheses, e.g. years without parantheses... Hafspajen (talk) 21:20, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Was bedeutet "Tschssttsss"? Sca (talk) 23:47, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Protests. I am not lazyyy....Hafspajen (talk) 00:00, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

But Haffy, surely you realize I was kidding ... joking ... ?? Sca (talk) 00:04, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Me tooo.

Makart, Dora Fournier-Gabillon

..! Hafspajen (talk) 00:06, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

So, found an other reasonably good painter, and German too... Hans Makart. Hafspajen (talk) 00:24, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

They used to say Germany was a land of Dichter und Denker — but not Maler (painters). Sca (talk) 01:16, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

My fault. He speaks German, but he is Austrian. Hafspajen (talk) 01:31, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Ha. Well, one of the peculiarities of German is that all nouns are capitalized. Sca (talk) 12:50, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Weissmuller

Baluschek, Express Train, 1909

Just removed Romanian from the lead from Johnny Weissmuller. How on earth could he be called Romanian, I don't get it. He was American, and ethnic German, no? Hafspajen (talk) 16:47, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Ah, the schrecklich verwirrende history of Eastern Europe. A glance at several entries indicates Weissmuller (obviously a German name — meaning literally "white miller") was an ethnic German from one of the scattered SE-Europe enclaves of Germans known as the Banat Swabians. They lived in the historic territory of Banat, which today is divided between Romania and Serbia, but formerly was part of Austria-Hungary. And yes, it's very much a distortion to call Weissmuller "Romanian," even if he was born in present-day Romania.

Personal parallel: Some of my German ancestors were Bessarabian Germans, also originally Swabian but emigrating to the U.S. from the old Imperial Russian territory of Bessarabia, today mostly in Moldova. Got that straight? Sca (talk) 17:06, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Yes. But I mean, you would't call Caesar Italian when he was Roman. Just because his willage happens to be in some of those countries now... And I wouldn't call him Serbian either. Hafspajen (talk) 17:21, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Offensichtlich nicht. Sca (talk) 17:26, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Absolutely not. Hafspajen (talk) 17:29, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Ausgeschlossen! Sca (talk) 17:32, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Well, those are now nominated and FP-ed. That German Baluschek is not that wonderfully ilustrated. May I start adding some pictures to the English B. or you will be ready with your translation first? Hafspajen (talk) 19:48, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, it's been slow going — I'm about halfway through.[4] Going back to it now. Sca (talk) 20:33, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

A pie for you!

Bonus Pie

For a good translation... Hafspajen (talk) 15:11, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Yum! Sca (talk) 15:15, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Ah, Baluschek in main space!!! Template:Did you know nominations/Hans Baluschek ... Hafspajen (talk) 16:15, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Was Baluscheck exposed at Degenerate art in Berlin 1943? By the way, both hooks need to be rigorously sourced. That is thee first thing people will check. Hafspajen (talk) 18:14, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

I haven't been able to find any references online to B at the "Entartete" exhibits. He only lived for two years after the Nazi seizure of power, and sometimes the Nazis went easier on men who'd served in WWI (even Jews). Sca (talk) 16:58, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

BTW, that's exhibited. Exposed means several other things. Sca (talk) 18:50, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

OOps, you are right, changed hook.Hafspajen (talk) 20:12, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Over here there are laws against indecent exposure. Sca (talk) 21:41, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

UUUuuu. Don't you think it is your tur to nominate a little? Moonrakers are fine. You can also try some of -> this - that is very interesting or this or possibly this or this. Hafspajen (talk) 23:44, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

You probably read that already. Hafspajen (talk) 01:39, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

What do you think about that external link at the Peter and Anneli's Journey to the Moon article? Hafspajen (talk) 14:54, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Apparently the English trans. was a very small publishing run, and I don't like the title. [5] Maybe we should toss the link & translate the title as on that talk page. Sca (talk) 15:00, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

City of Workers, 1920

I think I'll nominate City of Workers and Hasenheide Amusement Park — although I still rather like The Moon Cannon. Sca (talk) 14:56, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

The Moon Cannon, from Journey to the Moon, 1919

Amusement Park Hasenheide, 1895

Which two would you pick? Sca (talk)

Please??? Tingeltangel is twice as big as all the other pictures at thumb size... and RED. The other picture is too dark in the gallery... and nominated pics shall not be in the gallery

But what has the Biography of Peter Kohnstamm to do with Little Peter - way down on the page... ? Hafspajen (talk) 15:44, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Donno. There's something wrong with the pdf anyway. Think I'll delete External links. Sca (talk) 15:56, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Good idea. There are probably better ones to find. Shall we move tha page? Hafspajen (talk) 16:00, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

You mean drop the link from Hans Baluschek? Sca (talk) 16:05, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Yes, kill the link. The Moonraker can go into category FP:Illustrations... Hafspajen (talk) 16:10, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

 Done

You could nominate one now, and the other two when Baluscheck is on the main page ... that depends on how fast it will be rewived, of course. Hafspajen (talk) 16:13, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Hmmm — Alas, I've been re-wived myself... Sca (talk) 16:17, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

reviewed,Hafspajen (talk) 17:01, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

How many. Hafspajen (talk) 21:49, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

2. You? Sca (talk) 22:21, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Ööö, not married. Hafspajen (talk) 22:31, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Ööö? — That sounds French. Sca (talk) 22:35, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

So, go ahead and nominate. Hafspajen (talk) 22:51, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Am Morgen. Sca (talk)

Conflict Resolution

Scaa, please put Tingeltangel back where it was, you have to have City of Workers IN the article, not in the gallery. PLease... (think nomination) Hafspajen (talk) 23:30, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

OK, where did the city workers go? Now it is nowhere. I really think it looks bad with that big women in red among his best works. Hafspajen (talk) 01:38, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Relax, it's not in a gallery anymore.

Tingeltangel illustrates adjacent text.Sca (talk) 01:45, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Tingeltangel is terrible. I am unhappy. My artistic instincts are in uproar, it is breaking the balance. And I made it look so nice... Hafspajen (talk) 01:46, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Nightspot (Tingeltangel), 1900

Haffy, I've been pondering this situation. I think you, as an artistic person, evaluate everything visually, whereas I, as a writer and editor, consider the editorial and the visual, probably with an emphasis on the former. You are very adept at aesthetic judgments, but you seem perhaps to assume that people aren't going to bother reading the article — which in this case is a compelling personal history (and which, indeed, I put some effort into translating). I don't mean this in a critical or unfriendly way; it's just an attempt to understand our differences.

Tingeltangel is one of B's earlier (1900) works, when he was beginning to develop as an artist, and I agree it's not one of his best, being rather garish. His mature style really emerged only after WWI. I had included Tingeltangel as a matter of art-historical interest, and because the German text I translated mentioned it.

Having said that, I don't particularly like Tingel either, and I can certainly live without it. It doesn't belong in a gallery of his mature works (Express Train isn't very mature, either), so I removed it. I suggest that you go back and edit/rearrange Hans Baluschek as you see fit, and that will be the final version except for any minor glitches that might crop up. OK?

Sca (talk) 13:53, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

PS: I still think those three B&W pix should be larger, but at this pt. I won't insist. Sca (talk) 14:02, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

OK.Hafspajen (talk) 16:55, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Polishing

Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse, smoking cabin, North German Lloyd: a typical work by Johann Georg Poppe

I keep finding things to edit/polish. Made a title for the Journey to the Moon gallery & got rid of all the repetition in captions. Also moved Nightspot (1900) up to pair it with relevant text — it didn't belong in the "postwar" gallery.

The three B&W pix near the end, before the bit about the Nazis, are awfully small — got another way to arrange them? Sca (talk) 22:33, 30 June 2014 (UTC) What is B&W ? Hafspajen (talk) 22:53, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Black & white? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:55, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

http://www.uni-protokolle.de/Lexikon/Hans_Baluschek.html

http://hpd.de/node/1802

http://www.dhm.de/lemo/html/biografien/BaluschekHans/

http://kunstundfilm.de/2011/12/hans-baluschek-bilderbuch-des-berliner-lebens/

all source "entartete Kunst", --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:01, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

B&W in this [6] section. Sca (talk) 23:45, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Appeal

Hafspajen, are you indisposed, or sulking? (I trust it's not the latter.)

Please

1) Respond to what I said at [7].

2) Help me out with the mechanics of this FP nom, which seems to have some glitch in it that I don't understand. I am not a techie person. [8]

Thank you. Sca (talk) 15:03, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

How did you created this nomination? Copied of something or you put the file name in the little box and pushed? Can't find the title of the nomination. Hafspajen (talk) 17:42, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

• Made a new, Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/File:Hans Baluschek - Arbeiterstadt (1920).jpg try this one instead Hafspajen (talk) 18:07, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Add it : {{[[Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/File:Hans Baluschek - Arbeiterstadt (1920).jpg]]}} add it too the FP nom page like this, in curly brackets. Hafspajen (talk) 18:09, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

 Done Sca (talk)

• And this was not correct, Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Baluschek: ''City of Workers'', this needs to be deleted. Yngvadottir, can you delete this? Hafspajen (talk) 18:22, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

— It's been deleted. Sca (talk)

Yes, Yngvadottir fixed that. Next time you need to take the file name of the picture and put the file name on the Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates page into the 'Step 2:/ Create a subpage' box, and press create a new nomination - and it will give you a page with everything you need. Hafspajen (talk) 22:06, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I thought I was following the directions in using the template, but as I said I'm not a techie. Sca (talk) 22:09, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Well, that WAS interesting. Did you knew that it was in the USA? Maybe you can go and visit it - at the Milwaukee Art Museum - and tell us how it looks. This you could use as a reference, if you want. It says that his pictures are critical of the society - and I do agree, because they are. Hafspajen (talk) 01:12, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Twenty-some years ago I applied for a newspaper job in Milwaukee. (I grew up not far away, in Minneapolis.)

To a student of 20th C. history, Baluschek is a fascinating character, an exemplar of his age. It's well that he died before the Nazis launched their monstrous crimes against humanity, i.e. against all of us. Sca (talk) 01:42, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Was thinking about that myself. He was already influenced by WarI... And the other one, maybe he would have experienced the whole thing as a mayor n********. But who knows, some lived and fought. God's ways are unpredictable. Milwaukee Art Museum - put in Baluscheck and some other twenty artworks, but I have to stop now. Hafspajen (talk) 02:07, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Well, as to being influenced by war, Adolf spent all of WWI on the Western front, and many biographers suggest he was brutalized by the experience, but before the war he was already neurotic and maladjusted. Two million German soldiers were killed in WWI — why oh why couldn't Adolf have been one of them?

His preposterous book with its psychotic rants was published in 1925-27, just when Baluschek was doing some of his best work and Remarque, another WWI soldier, was writing All Quiet on the Western Front, which of course ended up in the flames. [9]

"... a mayor n********" — ?? Sca (talk) 14:52, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

I don't know... If I only would. Theoretically the only baby I could imagine get rid of if time-travelling would be allowed. Hafspajen (talk) 15:03, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Do

Holy Russia, by Mikhail Nesterov

Do you like Sergei Kirillov? You are the Russian expert. Hafspajen (talk) 19:04, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Nesterov: Girls on the Banks of the River

Never heard of him. His stuff seems a bit melodramatic.

How do you feel about Max Liebermann? Sca (talk) 23:28, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

PS: Among the Russkis, I rather like Mikhail Nesterov. Sca (talk) 00:07, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Hey, this painter is great. At first, I was looking at the article first but that is a bore. Now you can see what one can make of a good artist with a bad display... But on commons they are great pictures!!Hafspajen (talk) 00:44, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Another one little-known outside his own country. Sca (talk) 01:47, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes. We are good at finding guys like this. Will you look at the captions, I rearanged the gallery so it should show more of his works as they are, not only a lot of portraits - of fairly well know people, but not such good paintings after all. The file description is in Russian... ... What is this

? Mikhail Germashev, Easter card, After Easter, c. 1910

Can't read Russian. Hafspajen (talk) 11:48, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

You apparently are under the illusion that Sca speaks/reads Russian. I just know a few words & phrases, and can decipher the Cyrillic alphabet. But I can feed the Russian titles into Bing and get a rough English equivalent. Sca (talk) 13:24, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

YES, I AM under the illusion that Sca speaks/reads Russian. (TRANSLATE AT LEAST). Hafspajen (talk) 13:35, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Leider ist deutsch der einzige Fremdsprache die ich spreche und lese.Sca (talk) 13:50, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes, you read and speak mostly German, but you speak some Russian too. What about those bags they are carring? Hafspajen (talk) 14:51, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

No idea ... keine Ahnung. Sca (talk) 18:22, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

They glow. Hafspajen (talk) 18:25, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Ask a Russian. Sca (talk) 19:09, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Never met one. Hafspajen (talk) 19:28, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Based on my second marriage, I'd say you're lucky. Sca (talk) 17:58, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

{-}

Mykola Pymonenko, Maundy Thursday, 1887

(talk page stalker) @Hafspajen:, Easy, inquire of a Russian Orthodox. There is a church in the background and the worshippers are coming home from the Pascha (Easter) service that begins at midnight. Each person is given a candle that has been lighted by the priest with the holy light (to represent the risen Christ). The people are carrying the lighted candles home (that have been burning for three or four hours already) from the Easter night celebration. At home, the light will be used to light an oil lamp or candle in the icon corner, which will then burn continually throughout the year. . Oh, and the bags are to keep the wax from dripping. Here's a link to another similar image: [10]. Sorry, I do not know how to bring over images ツ There is also a modern picture at the Easter article under the section 'Reform of the Date'. Fylbecatulous talk 01:09, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Are you the Russian Orthodox? Hafspajen (talk) 01:12, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes, an American convert. Not a bit Russian. In the states one must essentially join an ethnic group to become Orthodox...Greek or Russian mainly, except there are some Arabic groups too. A lot of the service is spoken and sung in the native language, instead of English. Fylbecatulous talk 01:18, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Interesting. You have to tell me everything about it. How do you keep a light burning all the time? Hafspajen (talk) 01:29, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

My glass lamp is in a small holder that hangs by a three-sided chain and I just keep adding oil. It is a small flame...in truth, if I am away from home overnight, I extinguish it. Theoretically, it should burn all the time but customs are relaxed in modern times. In the olden days, I suppose someone was always home, and there were only candles and lamps anyway. Fylbecatulous talk 01:42, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

How often do you need to fill it? Hafspajen (talk) 01:53, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Every few days...here's a link to icon corner for some info on keeping the lamp burning at all times. Mine is six ounces and I use rose scented oil. Fylbecatulous talk 13:18, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I notice that. I am affraid, I am not that restrictive, I have one in every room... How come that you became Ortodox? Hafspajen (talk) 17:15, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Searching for the original faith of Christianity. I was in some fringe churches for a while before. Fylbecatulous talk 12:45, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Liebermann

I put these on Max Liebermann. Perhaps you'd like to provide others of his? Sca (talk) 02:21, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

• 
  Liebermann, The Studio of the artist, 1902
• 
  Liebermann, Two Riders at the Seashore, 1901
• 
  Liebermann, Riding Donkey at the Seashore, 1900
• 
  Liebermann, Restaurant Terrace in Nienstedten, 1902

Interesting that Liebermann died the same year as Baluschek, 1935. [11] Sca (talk) 00:21, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Gods mercy? Hafspajen (talk) 00:40, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Russians

Nikolay Anokhin seems to be a 20th C. landscape painter — his stuff can been seen here.[12] I sorta like the blue-shadow winter scenes.

• Nikolay Anokhin
• 
  Anokhin, The Village
• 
  Anokhin, The Thaw, 1991
• 
  Anokhin, Evening
• 
  Anokhin, March is Coming
• 
  Anokhin, The Allies
• 
  Anokhin, Empress's Fireplace
• 
  Anokhin, In the old house of Rakitinyh
• 
  Anokhin, The Royal bedchamber

Move gallery to Antokin. Hafspajen (talk) 21:14, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Anokhin, Thaw on the Way

Love those beer- glasses- Hafspajen (talk) 17:03, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

There's a Polish (left of white Krug) and a German (right of Krug) crystal mug up there. The map is a souvenir of the British Museum — note how huge Lithuania was (briefly) in the 17th C.

You'll be glad to know I just straightened the pic. [13] Sca (talk) 17:37, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

I think your picture will be soon nominated as FP. Hafspajen (talk) 17:40, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

17 May dinner in the United States of lutefisk, rutabaga, meatballs, cranberries, and lefse.

Can't you just feel the cold in Anokhin's Evening? Reminds me of Minnesota, where I grew up, and of this pic. on Flickr: [14]

Only wish WE had this kind of winter. Evrybody thinks - Sweden, great snow - well, no, not in the South, where I live. We had snow like 2010 - real big - but most often it is green winters, little snow for one week or two. Hafspajen (talk) 18:35, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Where in southern Sweden? Somewhere near Malmö, maybe?

Ever been to Gotland? Lots of history there, I imagine.

As you probably know, a lot of Swedes emigrated to Minnesota in the 19th C. (also lots of Norwegians & Germans). In Minneapolis they still celebrate Svenskarnas Dag annually — also Syttende Mai. Sca (talk) 20:52, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

My Norvegian relatives use to celebrate that one, 17 May. I hate Malmö. It is a big uggly city. Hafspajen (talk) 20:58, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

So, where then? Sca (talk) 21:07, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

In my family we used to make lefse before Christmas. But we NEVER liked lutefisk! Sca (talk) 21:07, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I have been in Gotland, it is very flat and windy, and interesting. But I was made to go there with my university, so I coudn't move around as I wanted too. Hafspajen (talk) 21:03, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Half of Sweden likes Lutfisk, the other dont. When the one party marries the other, always truble .... Hafspajen (talk) 21:22, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

That's marriage for you. When my Dad married my Mom, his relatives (all of Norwegian descent) whispered that he had married "a foreigner," because she was of German descent. Of course they both were third-generation Americans. [15]

Did you know that at the end of the 14th C. Gotland was occupied, briefly, by the Teutonic Order, who kicked out a group of Baltic Sea pirates known (in German) as the Vitalenbrüder? [16] In 1408 they turned the island over to Denmark. Ah, history.... [ Sca (talk) 21:27, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Mmm, look at Visby, is gorgious... Hafspajen (talk) 21:55, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

I see. [17] Sca (talk) 22:04, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Do you wan't me to be polite or honest? Hafspajen (talk) 23:16, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

??? Sca (talk) 23:38, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

The Russian girls -pic. Hafspajen (talk) 23:40, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Oh! Honest, of course. Sca (talk) 23:42, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Well, I think that the Soul of Russia has a better chance. It has something to SAY about the poor, harrased people and their sufferings and fait and sorrows... . Put that in article too. citation: last canvas Nesterov painted before the October Revolution of 1917 was named The Soul of the People. A procession of peasants and nobles, men and women, walks along the banks of Volga River, following a young boy with resoluteness reflected on his face. The Bolshevik regime banned religious art. After the revolution Nesterov painted mostly portraits and self-portraits. He loved this genre too, but his last picture was a landscape painting named Autumn in a Village. In his last years, Nesterov also worked on a book of memoirs, which was published several months before his death - Souce Hafspajen (talk) 00:03, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Nesterov, Soul of the People, 1916

Oh, this one? Kind of static, IMO. Sca (talk) 01:25, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Static? Hm - it has a definite pointing towards the young boy. I THINK - that if was a kind of - symbolic feeling he had - we are on our way towards something new - and potentially -young unexperienced - possibly - bad... e.g. Revolution. artist are like that - they can pic up vibrations and translate it into something - maybe even they don't really understand. see that old Holy man screaming, and nobody listens? hoew would you like to describe Russian revolution yourself? As a vise, intelligent thing or a rather foolish one? Hafspajen (talk) 01:33, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

An example of the pernicious ethos of ideologies, political or religious, that claim absolute and exclusive veracity. Sca (talk) 13:54, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

PS: I don't quite get why these diverse traditional Russian personalities are following the young boy — does he symbolize an unknown but presumably better future? (By 1916 the expectation that the Czarist regime would collapse was very widespread.) Sca (talk) 14:05, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Did it get any better? How old was Lenin waving around with that flag? The Soul of Man under Socialism.. Hafspajen (talk) 14:10, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

http://www.eurocement.ru/cntnt/eng10/media_cent/company_ne1/n8733.html - http://artinvestment.ru/en/news/exhibitions/20130424_gtg_nesterov.html more nesterov sources - http://www.tretyakovgallerymagazine.com/articles/2-2014-43/biography-hagiography-russian-intelligentsia-mikhail-nesterovs-work - http://www.artrussia.ru/artists/bio.php?rarity=1&about_a=1&pic_id=20&foa=f&list=1 -we can start makig that article better. Hafspajen (talk) 14:14, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

"Poeticized realism" — nice. But Hafspajen, I have things to do today, going on a short jaunt (Ausflug) outta town for my grandson's birthday, will be back this evening (UTC−6). Sca (talk) 15:02, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Have fun... Hafspajen (talk) 15:11, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Wenig, Ivan the Terrible with old Woman

Why does Ivan look so - unvilling? What is it all about? I added it to Ivan the Terrible#In art - but don't know what caption to Put in... Hafspajen (talk) 00:33, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

All I can tell you is that Ivan IV (Ива́н Гро́зный​) is rather misnamed in English, and that it really should be Ivan the Awesome (or Awe-Inspiring). Sca (talk) 01:39, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

And what does Ivan the Aewsome doing together with the lady? Are you interested to do something at Mikhail Nesterov? It was your find. Hafspajen (talk) 16:36, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Um, what lady? — Oh! The old lady at right. Не знаю.

Data with this pic on Commons says it was painted in 1886 by "Carl Venig." There's no English page for this artist, but I found a German one. [18] See gallery. [19] Sca (talk) 18:12, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Aha! The Polish title with this painting, Iwan Groźny i jego niania, translates as Ivan the Terrible with his Nanny. Perhaps there's some story about old Ivan's nanny scolding him for all his cruelties??? Sca (talk) 18:20, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

AH; the NANNY!!! "Young, man, behave yourself"!!!!!!!! Hafspajen (talk) 18:23, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps the title should be Ivan with his Terrible Nanny. Sca (talk) 21:17, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Nannys are BEST. Hafspajen (talk) 21:17, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Maybe she was awesome.Sca (talk) 21:20, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Ivan with his Awsome Nanny! Hafspajen (talk) 21:29, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Wenig, Russian Bride

Speaking of awesome, how'd you like to walk down the aisle with something like this? Sca (talk) 21:45, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

go traditional

Wouldn't like it... much. There are better choises.Hafspajen (talk) 23:54, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Well, she looks warm, anyway. And a bride is a bride in any language.... Sca (talk) 00:24, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

This one is not warm. Hafspajen (talk) 00:53, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Lutefisk, etc.

One can't be fat of lutfisk. Hafspajen (talk) 23:41, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, but what about bloated? Sca (talk) 00:02, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Hm, not really... this is the wonderful thing with it -and makes it so popular after the big smörgåsbord with hams, meatballs, sills and God knows what.. the one should consume on Chirsmas eve. Next day, all have lutfisk, with mustard sauce - and it calms down the stomach - it is very soothing and beneficial, you should try it sometimes. Hafspajen (talk) 00:10, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

You can't find lutefisk where I live — send me some!

Last night I had pizza that didn't agree with me, as we say. I was up in the wee hours with heartburn. But it's hard for me to imagine fish soaked in lye being a cure.... Sca (talk) 00:18, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

PS: I love pickled herring in sour cream sauce — with Во́дка, of course. [20]Sca (talk) 00:40, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

But it is! It is like taking bicarbonate. Be now a Norvegian and try it at least once... Hafspajen (talk) 00:24, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

This user is of
Norwegian ancestry.

Exactly. Hafspajen (talk) 00:31, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

But why not just fry the fish, instead of all that drying, soaking, salting, etc.? Sca (talk) 00:33, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

..Because it was an old method of food preservation. Hafspajen (talk) 00:42, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

They should have tried smoking it instead. Sca (talk) 00:45, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

It would have been heavier to carry. I think it is a Viking thing. You have to travel light and think about the girls. Hafspajen (talk) 01:35, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Oh, the Vikings were interested in girls? I thought they just wanted booty. [21] How disappointing. Sca (talk) 02:04, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes, Ylva and Ludmilla and stuff. Röde Orm (The Long Ships or Red Orm original Swedish: Röde Orm)Hafspajen (talk) 02:10, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

And is Hafspajen also a native of Scania?

"From the fury of the Northmen, O Lord deliver us." — Supposedly from the old, old Anglican Prayerbook.

Fisk: I tasted some dried fish once in Lithuania and found it inedible. But when I was a kid in Minnesota, we used to get very tasty smoked fish from the old, presumably Scandinavian fishermen at the North Shore of Lake Superior.[22] Sca (talk) 14:10, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I live in Scania, I like smoked fish and you should eat the dried fish as lutefisk... Hafspajen (talk) 14:13, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

And the North Shore of Lake Superior looks fantastic. Hafspajen (talk) 14:14, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

'Tis. [23] Sca (talk) 14:46, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Wind Blown Grass Across the Moon - Utagawa Hiroshige

Lovely, is it free? (the picture) Hafspajen (talk) 17:55, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Ja, as far as I remember. [24] (Last visit was 10 years ago.) Sca (talk) 17:26, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

And what are you doing on that lighthouse? Hafspajen (talk) 17:54, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Showing it to my boys. Son No. 2 took the photo. Sca (talk) 18:32, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

How cute. Hafspajen (talk) 20:52, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Can you tell me at least a little who this guy was? I need a caption to one of his pictures, we have nothing on him, Misha Samuil. Hafspajen (talk) 01:22, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, Я не знаю — never heard of him. Sca (talk) 02:19, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Me either, but he is a Russian Saint. Hafspajen (talk) 02:22, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

• priest of St. Nicholas monastery, person for his strict Virgin life, With Misha's craziness. (that should be the part for the Holy fool) An eight year old boy he predicted Moore on the people in his village, and the villagers have demanded to kick him. Misha has spent all his life, wandering the city and its surroundings. Often visited Trinity slobodka, liked to be in the House where the beznogogo peasant Simeon Vukolova (now the House of 21). - Yes it helps a lot. I understand what this is all about, for one thing. Jesus was not a virgin, so I don't get it why all saints have this particular demand om them. Hafspajen (talk) 15:33, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

(as I archived the fisk already: I can't propose it for the German DYK because they don't know the concept of expanded, it has to be new, like my bird. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:38, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

What fish are we talking about now? Did Misha eat fish? Hafspajen (talk) 15:40, 9 July 2014 (UTC)?

I came here because the title reminded me of your request to carry it in German to DYK, sorry, that is not possible, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:49, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

• Oh, you mean, fix some adecvate captions [25] on German Wiki and expand a little? weihnachten-in-schweden here, norwegen-weihnachten [26] [27] [28][29] more, - weihnachtsbraeuche-europa

jultomte-schwedische-weihnachten, [30]. . No problem. Hafspajen (talk) 19:20, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Wie, bitte? Sca (talk) 20:51, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Nothing, was tring to convince a German speaking editor to fix some captions at the German lutefisk article, or possibly expand it a little. Mysteries of a Barbershop.... [editHafspajen (talk) 21:11, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Never quite got into Brecht.

Speaking of Grass, have you read Günter Grass? Sca (talk) 23:05, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes! Hafspajen (talk) 23:29, 9 July 2014 (UTC)^{don't like Brecht either}

Dog Years (Hundejahre) is IMO a very great novel, dramatically and historically. Sca (talk) 00:43, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes. I liked the The Tin Drum.

Power went to his head

For you Hafspajen (talk) 01:26, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Remind me never to visit Ulan Ude. Sca (talk) 14:39, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Have Lenin scared you? ^^^^ — Such an obnoxious monstrosity. Sca (talk)

Obviously. Don't know what they rey to prove - the biggest head in Russia? Hafspajen (talk) 18:47, 10 July 2014 (UTC)