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Wikipedia does not have different inclusion standards for women than we do for men, or different inclusion standards for Latinos or African Americans than we do for white people — if the exact same claim of notability, and the exact same sourcing, had been brought to an article about a white man, it still would have been declined as not enough. Yes, Wikipedia is aware of the systemic bias problem, but it's not an intentional bias that Wikipedia is actively perpetrating of its own accord by maintaining double standards — it's an accidental by-product of the fact that until very recently, women and people of colour were at a systemic disadvantage in society when it came to becoming as famous as white men who were doing the same things. And we have numerous projects on here which attempt to rectify that imbalance, and I'm an active member of several of them — but the answer is not to create special lower standards by which a woman or a person of colour can get into Wikipedia for things that wouldn't ordinarily get a person into an encyclopedia, just because they were women or people of colour: the answer is to dig harder into finding the many women and people of colour who were doing encyclopedic things we just haven't documented on here yet. I'm sorry you're disappointed, but this isn't an issue of gender or anti-Latino bias: the article just isn't claiming or sourcing anything that would get any other person into an encyclopedia in and of itself, regardless of their gender or ethnic background. Bearcat (talk) 17:46, 14 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for your reply. I made three points in my response to you. You conceded one of them (that gender bias is a recognized systemic problem at Wikipedia), and did not respond to the other two (that the historical context of women and minorities, especially female minorities, is not being taken into account, and that the conflict-of-interest policy is inherently biased against females and minorities). Perhaps you concede those points as well. You have not explained why being the first female Hispanic elected to office in 1930s Arizona is not notable. You also trivialize the nationwide attention she got when she first took office as reporting on “something slightly unusual” that happened in Arizona, but your argument is conclusory and internally illogical, since, if it was only slightly unusual, it would not have been reported so widely. You also summarily dismiss “County Recorder” as an unimportant office, without explaining how you reached that conclusion, and you state that that “Political almanacs don't help the case”; I am not sure you carefully considered that the almanacs are cited to show that the office of County Recorder was important enough to be included each year. The opinion letters from the state Attorney General are also intended as evidence of the importance of her office. You summarily dismiss the citation to Find-a-Grave, but I am not sure that you saw that the citation is to primary evidence (a copy of her baptismal certificate), showing that she was born in Mexico, to substantiate that she was Hispanic, since she did not have a Hispanic sounding name when she was elected. You adamantly insist in no uncertain terms that she is not notable, but I received earlier comments from editors who suggested that she might be notable. Is it possible to request that your colleagues be polled for consensus on this point? Sbettwy (talk) 23:17, 14 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

For starters, I don't even understand your claim that the conflict of interest rules are in any way biased against females and minorities — you've asserted that, but you haven't even attempted to show how that's the case. I can't address that until I know what your argument in that regard even is.
The local (city, town, county) level of politics is not a topic of inherently encyclopedic interest in most cases. We do allow some people at that level of government into Wikipedia based on certain standards (e.g. mayors of major cities, but not mayors of small towns; city councillors who can be really well-sourced as having become nationally recognized far beyond the norm for that role, but not all city councillors, etc.) — but it's not a level of government at which a person is automatically an appropriate topic for a Wikipedia article just because they existed. And the "national" coverage you showed does not demonstrate that she achieved any level of fame outside of her own county: not a single one of them contains any more than a blurb's worth of information about her — and even if any of them had been more substantive, our WP:BLP1E rules would still apply since every single one of them covers her in the context of a single event which carries no encyclopedic significance in its own right.
We still can't base an article on user-generated sources like findagrave, because user-generated sources can be misrepresented. And we can't base an article on directory or almanac sources, because all they do is list her name, while failing to contain any substantive information about her. And we can't base an article on private correspondence, even if it's archived in a fonds somewhere — we have to base it on secondary sources analyzing the importance of that correspondence. And as far as any prior commenter on your draft said anything at all about her potential notability, what they said is that the sources weren't showing it adequately — if they had been satisfied that the notability and sourcing were where they needed to be, the article would have been approved and I wouldn't have had to comment at all. So no, what I said is not in any conflict with what anybody else said either.
Again, what you're missing is that I'm personally a member of more than group that has a systemic underrepresentation issue on Wikipedia, and I have family connections to two more — I'm fully aware of the problem, don't need lessons about it from anyone who thinks I'm less aware of it and less personally affected by it than I really am, and I actively participate in several of the projects that we already have in place to rectify it. But the problems that exist have nothing to do with our inclusion and sourcing standards being biased at all, but are a factor of our userbase not being demographically representative of the general population — so the solution isn't to create a special class of inclusion standards by which women or people of colour can get into Wikipedia on less substantive notability and less substantive sourcing than a white man could, it's to identify the many women and people of colour who are still missing even though they do fully meet our existing standards.
And finally, I'm not the only editor who declined the draft — and I'm really not that interested in being held personally responsible for, or asked to answer for, everybody else's decisions too. I can speak only for myself, and am not responsible for any of the other three editors — so I'm not particularly interested in getting drawn into an extended debate where I have to personally justify every editor's prior decisions about it. Bearcat (talk) 22:53, 16 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

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