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Discussion about merger of JT Vallance article

Please explain the removal of the merged tags. Harro5 07:14, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

• I do not have any agenda against Sydney Grammar School. In fact, I am one of Wikipedia's strongest supporters of high school articles - see the Schools Portal. However, John Vallance is not notable enough to warrant his own article. Do you feel he would be hard done by if given a short paragraph in the school's article explaining his history? Please do not revert the labels again, as I will take the next steps in Wikipedia dispute resolution should you continue to kill discussion, but rather let us debate the worth of the article fairly. Please don't attempt to brand me as nothing but a jealous brat - I have over 4000 edits on Wikipedia - and let us try to work a consensus which is fair and reasonable. I am not seeking to push any agendas, I merely want what is best for the encyclopedia. Thanks. Harro5 07:25, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Is this a message? I'm not sure how this works.

• It's a message. I've explained how this works in the John Vallance talk page. I feel you have no interest in finding a common ground on this issue as you continually remove the merger tags from the articles in question. If you read them, they say this is a "suggested merger" and direct people to the discussion. Isn't that what we're doing? Discussing the merger, albeit from opposite ends of the spectrum? It doesn't say "COME HERE AND GET RID OF THIS JUNK!!!" The labels are needed whether you like them or not. Thanks. Harro5 07:48, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

But the tags aren't needed - you're the one who has deemed whether they are necessary because you 'like' them. You're being hypocritical. As I've explained: recall a precedent and merge accordingly. This discussion is tedious and unnecessary. The ruling you have cited includes provision for 'college professors' and calls into question articles with absurd content, i.e. John Doe is good at chess. As you can plainly see, the JTV article meets the provision of an educator and does not resemble the absurd model and, therefore, is not a 'vanity article'. Josiah Bunting III was a Headmaster of Lawrencville School, New Jersey. A general and professor, he has also published a number of books - it isn't hard to find points of congruence with JTV's career when you compare the articles. Citing the article on Bunting as an example of a Headmaster. Given my previous requests that you 'justify appropriately' your merge tags. Given my passionate request that you simply leave the page alone and promote a positive resolution that all headmasters/mistresses receive their own pages. And given that 'consensus' is nearly impossible to find on a service such as Wikipedia (needless to say, look at an article on Terrorism or some such and you'll see debate ad infinitum). Given these things, I ask, once and for all, that you either meet my reasonable request or you just leave the page alone. I can't force you to do either. I can only ask that you take into account what I have said about the article and you act reasonably.

This is a waste of time. For the both of us.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Savaloy (talk • contribs) 08:16, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

With reference to your ongoing removal of the tag on the Vallance article, please note that there is a guideline about reversion: Wikipedia:Three-revert rule--User:AYArktos | Talk 09:40, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Actually it's a policy, and you have to be a bit careful about this because you can be blocked for up to 24 hours if you revert the same page more than three times in 24 hours. I don't find it a useful policy (I prefer to stick to the one revert rule, and I seldom block, preferring to talk instead) but other differ on this. --Tony Sidaway^Talk 10:38, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

• Hi, further to the comments on the article talk page and your note to me at my discussion page, I have completed the merge of the article by a redirection. This is done by replacing the text with #Redirect [[Sydney Grammar School]]. To read more about redirection see: Wikipedia:Redirect Regards--User:AYArktos | Talk 10:44, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

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Welcome to Wikipedia from me, too. --Tony Sidaway^Talk 10:46, 23 October 2005 (UTC)