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LaMDA

Hello. Thank you for this edit you made to LaMDA. However, per WP:MEDIUM, articles published via Medium are not considered reliable sources; could you find an alternate source that supports the first part of the information you added? Thank you! InfiniteNexus (talk) 22:22, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

@InfiniteNexus: everything in that paragraph is in the "lamdaarxiv" source cited at the end, but the TowardsDataScience/Medium post explains it a lot better. Do you think citing both at that point would help? Is there any way to cite such a blog by an authoritative author for its helpfulness apart from its formal reliability? Sandizer (talk) 00:38, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
Per WP:SPS, self-published content such as Medium articles are not permitted unless the author is an established subject-matter expert, whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable, independent publications, regardless of how accurate or informative the article is. The author of this article in question, "Julia Turc", does appear to be an ex-Google employee, but given there is zero press coverage of her work, I'm afraid we can't use the Medium article. InfiniteNexus (talk) 19:23, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
Maybe move it to "external links"? If not, delete it because the tech report on arxiv says everything in that paragraph. Sandizer (talk) 22:12, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
I've removed it. Unfortunately, Medium can't be used in External links either, per WP:NOBLOGS. InfiniteNexus (talk) 22:26, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

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@ToBeFree: am I the reason you extended-confirmed-protected the article? I only have less than 250 edits, so you locked me out for replacing a deleted source which was basically the only counterpoint on the partisanship issue in the whole article. Sandizer (talk) 01:25, 9 April 2023 (UTC) Nevermind: I see all the edit warring earlier in the day now; please disregard. I will simply need to do 270 more edits :/ Sandizer (talk) 01:30, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
Hello @Sandizer. Please note that WP:ROLLINGSTONEPOLITICS is regarded as an unreliable source for politics on WP. Please only source content from reliable sources (check out WP:RSP for some additional information). Thank you! Dr. Swag Lord (talk) 02:57, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
@Dr.Swag Lord, Ph.d: let's discuss this at Talk:Twitter Files/Archive 9#WP:ROLLINGSTONEPOLITICS vs WP:BALANCE. Sandizer (talk) 04:20, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

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This interested me, but I'm curious why you use regex to variously modify the text, instead of just plaintextifying it. Here's my example code:

import requests
from bs4 import BeautifulSoup
import pywikibot
site = pywikibot.Site('en', 'wikipedia')

def textarticlewithrefs(title):
    page = pywikibot.Page(site, title)
    html = page.get_parsed_page()
    soup = BeautifulSoup(html, 'html.parser')
    p_tags = soup.find_all("p")

    refs = soup.select(".mw-references-wrap.mw-references-columns ol.references > li") 

    ref_content = ""
    for ref in refs:
        parent_list = ref.find_parent(['ol', 'ul'])
        position = parent_list.find_all('li').index(ref) + 1
        ref_content += f"[{position}] {ref.get_text()}\n"
    article = ""
    for p in p_tags:
        article += p.get_text()
    article = article.split("\n")
    article = "\n\n".join([i for i in article if i])
    article += "\n\nReferences:\n" + ref_content
    return article
print(textarticlewithrefs('Russia'))

— Qwerfjkltalk 10:57, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

@Qwerfjkl: Thank you! I wish I had tried that way first. There's a problem with spurious newlines, for example in Monogamy where references "[105][106]" end up on a line by themselves. Also the lists in the text body seem to be omitted. I wish I understood BeautifulSoup's select() and find_parent() methods; I honestly would have to study the docs to figure out what they are doing there. Is there a way to extract the first external URL from each reference? I'm using it for automatic reference verification. Sandizer (talk) 16:48, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
You can do that with .find():
link = ref.find('a', href=lambda href: href and href.startswith('http'))
if link:
    href = link['href']
else:
    href = False
— Qwerfjkltalk 16:56, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
Huge thanks! I want to move to this, but I just don't have the BeautifulSoup expertise. Can you please help me figure out how to include lists for articles such as Monogamy? Sandizer (talk) 18:48, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
What do you mean by a list? I don't see a list in that article. (If it helps, the documentation for BeautifulSoup is here.) — Qwerfjkltalk 19:38, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
After the fourth paragraph there is a four-item unordered list, and after the second paragraph in the "Terminology" section, there is a two-item ordered list. I want to include those as if they were unordered bulleted paragraphs. I'm still not sure what to do with tables, and there are a number of diagram templates about which I am similarly confused. Sandizer (talk) 19:42, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
The problem is that the code selects p tags, whereas the list items are in a ul tag. It looks like .find_all() can be given a list of tags e.g. soup.find_all(['p', 'ul']) (which doesn't work perfectly, as te items are disordered). — Qwerfjkltalk 20:46, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
It seems to work with:
parent_elem = soup.select_one(".mw-parser-output")
tags = []
for elem in parent_elem.children:
    if elem name in ["p", "ul", "ol"]:
        tags.append(elem)
for tag in tags:
    article += tag.get_text()
The problem with references ending up on a line by themselves is probably due to the WP:REFSPACE issue. — Qwerfjkltalk 09:23, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
Another issue I've found is reference numbering is seems to skip from 86 to 93 to 99 to 103, with the rest being normally ordered. — Qwerfjkltalk 09:29, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

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Added a bunch more mainstream media refs and moved it back. Sandizer (talk) 16:50, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

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