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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:43, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

Singapore and Japanese Grands Prix

Is it better to add a table for points permutations similar as here rather than having those two long proses in the section? Island92 (talk) 11:16, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Tell me what you think about. I wanted to go on with it.--Island92 (talk) 13:12, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
@Island92: It really depends on how many permutations there are. For Japan, the table is probably the way to go. For Singapore, I think the prose is fine, but table would be fine too (I'd say it's borderline). And for the 2016 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, the bullet pointed list works best. But for Japan, the table is definitely the way to go (I intend to do it myself when I have the time). SSSB (talk) 17:00, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
Ok.--Island92 (talk) 18:15, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Grammar

I changed that for a reason, as always. Has said is reported speech grammar with initial will form becoming would + if + past simple to make it second conditional. Island92 (talk) 13:40, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

@Island92: I would argue that the first conditional applies, not the second (I'd have put that in my summary if I knew my grammar jargon). SSSB (talk) 17:26, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
"Jost Capito says that Logan Sargeant will take this seat if he gets enough super license points". That's ok. "Jost Capito has said that Logan Sargeant would take this seat if he got enough super license points". "Has said" derives from reported speech.--Island92 (talk) 17:31, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
Deep down, it isn't a big issue.--Island92 (talk) 17:43, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
@Island92: So your happy to keep as it is, in the first conditional? SSSB (talk) 06:15, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
As mentioned it is not a big grammar issue, thus yes.--Island92 (talk) 16:59, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

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Las Vegas Grand Prix

It is not an edit war. User Hazim Fikri A. kept insisting on removing information I restored multiple times. I explained it into his talk page, but he continued. Island92 (talk) 11:26, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

Your changing an image and adding/removing a wikilink. That sounds like an edit war to me. SSSB (talk) 11:36, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
@Island92: in fact, what you just described is the definition of an edit war. SSSB (talk) 11:40, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
But the template was mainly for Hazim's benefit, not yours. I can see from his talk page that you have attempted discussion. But I can't go to a noticeboard without informing both of you. You might also want to start a discussion at Talk:Las Vegas Grand Prix to determine consensus. SSSB (talk) 11:42, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

The history page says differently. Firstly, the current image was first added by user Apeiro94. This current image is better than the old ones, which featured more useful information of the track. User Apeiro94 summarizen it in his edit at the time he added it. The current image does not have any deletion nomination. User Hazim Fikri A. kept insisting on (prefering maybe?) the old ones. Secondy he kept insisting on removing the wikilink of the track in the box. I wondered why these two edits were made repedeately. Preferences? Maybe. I restored the current image and the wikilink multiple times. Then I explained it into his talk page. Island92 (talk) 11:56, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

Those two issues are both preference, not vandalism (as your summaries claim), so that doesn't exempt you from edit warring when you continually revert his edits. The only thing between you and a block for edit warring is that you tried to engage in a discussion on his talk page and if this ever gets to a notice board I will make sure to point that out. SSSB (talk) 12:36, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

I reverted and explained. What can I do if he keeps insisting for days? It is an his preference, ok, but far from what I see. That image is much better and the wikilink is present in each Formula One circuit article on the encyclopedia. Does he know it? Island92 (talk) 12:42, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

What you can do is follow the advice at Wikipedia:Edit warring#Handling of edit-warring behaviors. SSSB (talk) 12:50, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

Ok. Island92 (talk) 16:08, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

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I mentioned you by accident (forgot that it was YttriumShrew that had the one claimed yet to write), but thanks for completing the table. Now it's only RRR left before I can stop calling it a draft (even if there's a chance a new topic can emerge if someday the tool finally gives the annual list ). igordebraga 15:01, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

Don't worry about it. I was going to do Mbappe anyway. SSSB (talk) 15:11, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

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Sprint race discussion

Hi! Has there ever been a discussion on how to present the sprint race results in F1 season articles (i.e. if additional column or just use superscripts)? If so, can you link it? MotoGP has now their own sprint format and I kinda adapted the format you use in F1 season articles because MotoGP's sprint concept is the same as F1's, but some editors have raised the issue of adding an additional column. I just wanna know how the format you're using now in F1 articles came to be. Thanks! Engr. Smitty Werben 14:03, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

We have got this and this. This one is more about how the FIA did it, but may be helpful, as it emphasis how sprints aren't considered. SSSB (talk) 14:16, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:11, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Recent revert

Is it possible this was related to a transclusion limit problem? A comment in the code says "Please do not update this template to use {{F1R2023}} - doing so breaks the [[2023 Formula One World Championship]] article due the template transclusion limit being exceeded" so it might at least be a good faith edit. -- Scjessey (talk) 11:53, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

Possibly why it was done. But, looking at 2023 Formula One World Championship, the transclutions limit hasn't been reached. I can't see any obvious reason to remove this automation, so I reverted it. The transclution limit is reached when we add 460 additional instances of that template to the article (23 races x 20 drivers), not by having the points totals add up automatically. SSSB (talk) 12:02, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
Okey dokey. This is not a part of the MediaWiki software I am familiar with. You might want to do a null edit to update your revert summary, since it appears the edit was done in good faith. -- Scjessey (talk) 13:07, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

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Assessing articles

When you assess an article, (e.g. [1]), please can you update the class in the banner shell template rather than adding to each individual project banner? Thanks — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:23, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Sure thing. Sorry about that. SSSB (talk) 11:40, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
No worries at all — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:08, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

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A sponsor has nothing to do with a name and surname driver, like Alexander Albon's case. The sponsor should not be included for the car, despite being the first ever case. We establish the common name also for cars after Grands Prix wikilinks. Island92 (talk) 09:20, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

My response to each of those sentences is "says who?". Who says the commonname will not include Kick? Who says that the sponser should not be included in the article title? Who says that the sponser has nothing to do with the name? Actually, 2024 Formula One World Championship would disagree with this last point, as the constuctor column clearly includes the Kick (and the Aramco for Aston). And this is exactly like Albon, because we are (apparently) using official names in the entry table, not commonnames. SSSB (talk) 09:29, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
Entrants and constructors have both their own sponsors but NOT in the Main wikilink. You read Aston Martin in Formula One that leads to Aston Martin, not Aston Martin Aramco in Formula One. The main wikilink never includes the sponsor name. Island92 (talk) 10:54, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
And that's why for cars should be followed the same. Island92 (talk) 10:55, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
The title sponsor is always split and not involved in the main wikilink. And where is the case, the sponsor has its own wikilink, hence [[Kick (service)|Kick]] [[Sauber Motorsport|Sauber]]-[[Scuderia Ferrari|Ferrari]] Island92 (talk) 11:51, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
The reasonit is not Aston Martin Aramco in Formula One is a) because of the existance of an established commonname and b) because that article's scope extends beyond Aramco's involvement with Aston Martin. Neither of those apply to the car. Until it has been established that a commonname exists, the article should use the official name. In the absence of an established WP:COMMONNAME, the official name is the title that best fits the article title WP:CRITERIA (there is no evidence to say that one is more recognisable than the other and the official name is more precise. SSSB (talk) 11:57, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
@Island92: I maintain that you are fowl of WP:OR by excluding the "kick" from the article title. However, I also cannot be bothered to argue it, it is a minor point. I am going to create a redirect, so that using the chassis name without or witout kick will get you to the car article. For now, I will set up the templates so that without "Kick" has the {{r with possibilites}} and with "kick" has {{r avoided double redirect}}. SSSB (talk) 12:07, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

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Hello there is a extended-confirmed-protected edit request on Zamorin [2]] 207.96.13.213 (talk) 15:55, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

I appreciate that you are keen to have your proposed edit implemented as soon as possible, but this is not really the appropriate venue to chase these requests, espically as this is not an area of Wikipedia I work in. There are tools that editors use to awnser edit requests and there are currently 44 requests in the queue. I will have a look at this request if I remember too and I have time (i.e. not now, maybe later), but in future please wait your turn. Thanks. SSSB (talk) 09:04, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

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Hi there, I came across Helmut Marko's biography(here), and in it, as no one has edited it yet, is written that 'he has also advised the Scuderia Toro Rosso, now Scuderia AlphaTauri Formula One team' so in this, I'm confused if I should

Either replace Alphatauri directly with VCARB, Or include Alphatauri as well(but I'm not able to frame the right sentence).

Can you please help me in deciding which is the right way, and how it should be written if it's the second choice?

AnalyserOP (talk) 21:14, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

My advice is also to be WP:BOLD and the wording can be refined later. Personally, I think that going Toro Rosso, RB is misleading, because he also advised AlphaTauri, but listing all three as suggested feels clunky. I'll have to think about the best way to include all three. SSSB (talk) 20:57, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for the suggestion. I have tried and edited it by including all three. Pls review and improve it as you like. Here you go. AnalyserOP (talk) 05:09, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

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