User talk:SB Johnny/db-advert

Any objections to me using this?

Template:Db-advert seems a good addition to the ((db)) tag family. --SB_Johnny | ^talk 17:46, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

The only problem is that it doesn't cite any of the Speedy criteria for deletion. Without a consensus to add such a criterion, the template isn't worth much. Fan-1967 17:58, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, a big objection from me. It appears to give official standing to a non-existent speedy criterion, and may mislead both users and administrators into referring to this criterion. I'll probably edit it later today or tomorrow to fix this problem unless it's recast appropriately in the meantime. -- SCZenz 18:02, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Yup, not sure how this fits into things. Seems better to have a good tag rather than ((delete|article appears to be written for the purpose of promoting this company/band/website/etc)), which is how it goes now.

(Sorry for "baiting" you... don't worry, I wouldn't use it if it weren't backed up by policy. Just seeing the need, ya know?) SB_Johnny | ^talk 18:17, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

My point is, the policy change needs to come before the addition of a tag. I do not delete articles that do not meet existing CSD, and I do complain to admins who do so and to the users who tag the articles. We should not have a template which, if obeyed, violates policy. -- SCZenz 18:21, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Cool... just being bold to get things moving a bit. Please return to WP:WPP to discuss further... kinda wierd of you to move it here! SB_Johnny | ^talk 18:25, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

On second thought

This template really isn't appropriate. Unless it's considered useful for discussion otherwise, probably better to delete it before it gets used by mistake (which is possible, as I myself had tried to use it once before I made it, saw the redlink for the template, and later came back and wrote the thing). SB_Johnny | ^talk 21:58, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, you can blank it and tag it {{db-author}}, if I recall correctly. -- SCZenz 22:21, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

I defanged it for now (it won't add articles to the speedy deletion category). I'll mark it with a db tomorrow if the discussion is no longer going on. (Is there any way to preserve its "appearance" in my userspace somewhere in case I want it for future reference?) SB_Johnny | ^talk 23:35, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

It could be moved to User:SB_Johnny/db-advert, even by you in fact. That'd preserve the page history if it does become implemented later. -- nae'blis 17:06, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Doing that now. (Thanks for the dope-slap!). SB_Johnny | ^talk 17:09, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Errr, not to slap you again, but did you mean to move it under user:Sbjohnny (and not your actual username)? -- nae'blis 02:23, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Nope. And now for something completely different... seems you should never move the talk before the article. They're both here, but somehow disconnected.

(lesson: do not attempt pagemoves when (a) toddlers are trying to use the keyboard with you, or (b) before coffee in morning).SB_Johnny | ^talk 09:32, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Hehehe...anyway, I think I fixed what happened there, but yeah, I've learned about trying to move the talk page first before. You probably want to slap a {{db-author}} on [[Talk:User:SB Johnny/db-advert]], which is now a redirect here (I'll leave what happened as an exercise to the reader). -- nae'blis 15:07, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Gone

I used AWB and moved them all to prod. Here is an example. — RevRagnarok ^{Talk Contrib} 03:08, 10 August 2006 (UTC)