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Tech News: 2024-18
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The appearance of talk pages changed for the following wikis: Azerbaijani Wikipedia, Bengali Wikipedia, German Wikipedia, Persian Wikipedia, Hebrew Wikipedia, Hindi Wikipedia, Indonesian Wikipedia, Korean Wikipedia, Dutch Wikipedia, Portuguese Wikipedia, Romanian Wikipedia, Thai Wikipedia, Turkish Wikipedia, Ukrainian Wikipedia, Vietnamese Wikipedia. These wikis participated to a test, where 50% of users got the new design, for one year. As this test gave positive results, the new design is deployed on these wikis as the default design. It is possible to opt-out these changes in user preferences ("Show discussion activity"). The deployment will happen at all wikis in the coming weeks. [1]
- Seven new wikis have been created:
- You can now watch message groups/projects on Translatewiki.net. Initially, this feature will notify you of added or deleted messages in these groups. [9]
- Dark mode is now available on all wikis, on mobile web for logged-in users who opt into the advanced mode. This is the early release of the feature. Technical editors are invited to check for accessibility issues on wikis. See more detailed guidelines.
Problems
- Kartographer maps can use an alternative visual style without labels, by using
mapstyle="osm"
. This wasn't working in previews, creating the wrong impression that it wasn't supported. This has now been fixed. [10]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 May. It will be on all wikis from 2 May (calendar). [11][12]
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Question from TitanicEdits (23:38, 1 May 2024)
How do I create a citation? I'm new. --TitanicEdits (talk) 23:38, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- @TitanicEdits: Hello and welcome. Click the "Cite" button or the "cite" dropdown and select an option. See Help:Referencing for beginners for more information.
- Feel free to ask if you have questions. Rusty4321 talk contribs 01:10, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – May 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2024).
- Phase I of the 2024 requests for adminship review has concluded. Several proposals have passed outright and will proceed to implementation, including creating a discussion-only period (3b) and administrator elections (13) on a trial basis. Other successful proposals, such as creating a reminder of civility norms (2), will undergo further refinement in Phase II. Proposals passed on a trial basis will be discussed in Phase II, after their trials conclude. Further details on specific proposals can be found in the full report.
- Partial action blocks are now in effect on the English Wikipedia. This means that administrators have the ability to restrict users from certain actions, including uploading files, moving pages and files, creating new pages, and sending thanks. T280531
- The arbitration case Conflict of interest management has been closed.
- This may be a good time to reach out to potential nominees to ask if they would consider an RfA.
- A New Pages Patrol backlog drive is happening in May 2024 to reduce the number of unreviewed articles in the new pages feed. Currently, there is a backlog of over 15,000 articles awaiting review. Sign up here to participate!
- Voting for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) election is open until 9 May 2024. Read the voting page on Meta-Wiki and cast your vote here!
Question from BOB SHAKIT KARMA (18:30, 3 May 2024)
how do I make a biography --BOB SHAKIT KARMA (talk) 18:30, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- @BOB SHAKIT KARMA: See on Help:Your first article, however, note that creating an autobiography for yourself is not allowed. Rusty4321 talk contribs 23:35, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
RFA2024 update: phase I concluded, phase II begins
Hi there! Phase I of the Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review has concluded, with several impactful changes gaining community consensus and proceeding to various stages of implementation. Some proposals will be implemented in full outright; others will be discussed at phase II before being implemented; and still others will proceed on a trial basis before being brought to phase II. The following proposals have gained consensus:
- Proposals 2 and 9b (phase II discussion): Add a reminder of civility norms at RfA and Require links for claims of specific policy violations
- Proposal 3b (in trial): Make the first two days discussion-only
- Proposal 13 (in trial): Admin elections
- Proposal 14 (implemented): Suffrage requirements
- Proposals 16 and 16c (phase II discussion): Allow the community to initiate recall RfAs and Community recall process based on dewiki
- Proposal 17 (phase II discussion): Have named Admins/crats to monitor infractions
- Proposal 24 (phase II discussion): Provide better mentoring for becoming an admin and the RfA process
- Proposal 25 (implemented): Require nominees to be extended confirmed
See the project page for a full list of proposals and their outcomes. A huge thank-you to everyone who has participated so far :) looking forward to seeing lots of hard work become a reality in phase II. theleekycauldron (talk), via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:09, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
Question from Johnnysinsismydad (18:46, 4 May 2024)
How do I make a citation --Johnnysinsismydad (talk) 18:46, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-19
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The appearance of talk pages changed for all wikis, except for Commons, Wikidata and most Wikipedias (a few have already received this design change). You can read the detail of the changes on Diff. It is possible to opt-out these changes in user preferences ("Show discussion activity"). The deployment will happen at remaining wikis in the coming weeks. [13][14]
- Interface admins now have greater control over the styling of article components on mobile with the introduction of the
SiteAdminHelper
. More information on how styles can be disabled can be found at the extension's page. [15] - Wikimedia Enterprise has added article body sections in JSON format and a curated short description field to the existing parsed Infobox. This expansion to the API is also available via Wikimedia Cloud Services. [16]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 May. It will be on all wikis from 9 May (calendar). [17][18]
- When you look at the Special:Log page, the first view is labelled "All public logs", but it only shows some logs. This label will now say "Main public logs". [19]
Future changes
- A new service will be built to replace Extension:Graph. Details can be found in the latest update regarding this extension.
- Starting May 21, English Wikipedia and German Wikipedia will get the possibility to activate "Add a link". This is part of the progressive deployment of this tool to all Wikipedias. These communities can activate and configure the feature locally. [20]
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MediaWiki message delivery 16:42, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
Question from AllCass (08:47, 3 May 2024)
Hi again Rusty! Sometimes, when I use the automatic citation feature for a weblink, I get something like this:
"Fields, Christopher; Staff, WLBT com (2022-01-22). "Capri Movie Theatre to show first film in decades". https://www.wlbt.com. Retrieved 2024-05-03. {{cite web}}
: Empty citation (help): External link in |website= (help)".
At this point, I usually manually input the citation instead to get rid of the {{cite web}}
: Empty citation (help) portion. I've read the help page on it and still don't quite understand what is causing it to appear that way. I was wondering if you could help explain why some citations pull up that way! --AllCass (talk) 08:47, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- @AllCass: Hello again! To solve this, you can click on the citation in the text, click on "edit," click the text, click "edit" again, and make sure that there isn't a website name in "name of website." (there might be a faster way to do this, but I might not be aware of it.) Rusty4321 talk contribs 23:34, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Gotcha! Thanks Rusty! AllCass (talk) 11:49, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- @AllCass: You're welcome! Oh, also, when you want to show a template as an example, I'd recommend using the "Template link" template, or in discussions/talk pages, switch to source mode and type:
{{tl|template name}}
, for example:{{tl|cite web}}
produces: {{cite web}} without giving the "empty citation" error. Rusty4321 talk contribs 20:07, 5 May 2024 (UTC) - Gotcha, this is handy advise to have, thanks again!! AllCass (talk) 17:08, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- @AllCass: You're welcome! Oh, also, when you want to show a template as an example, I'd recommend using the "Template link" template, or in discussions/talk pages, switch to source mode and type:
- Gotcha! Thanks Rusty! AllCass (talk) 11:49, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
Question from Solam Jacobs (16:15, 9 May 2024)
Hello how do I create cotitation --Solam Jacobs (talk) 16:15, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Solam Jacobs: Hello. Look at this guide to learn: Help:Introduction to referencing with VisualEditor/1 Rusty4321 talk contribs 19:45, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
I reopened the AfD you closed to allow for more opinions. Ignoring the "it's pretty significant" WP:VAGUEWAVE non-argument, there are only two valid views there, one to delete, and one to keep. We could benefit from getting more discussion about this. Owen× ☎ 22:27, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- @OwenX: Thank you for letting me know. Rusty4321 talk contribs 22:54, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-20
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- On Wikisource there is a special page listing pages of works without corresponding scan images. Now you can use the new magic word
__EXPECTWITHOUTSCANS__
to exclude certain pages (list of editions or translations of works) from that list. [21] - If you use the user-preference "Show preview without reloading the page", then the template-page feature "Preview page with this template (what's this?)" will now also work without reloading the page. [22]
- Kartographer maps can now specify an alternative text via the
alt=
attribute. This is identical in usage to thealt=
attribute in the image and gallery syntax. An exception for this feature is wikis like Wikivoyage where the miniature maps are interactive. [23] - The old Guided Tour for the "New Filters for Edit Review" feature has been removed. It was created in 2017 to show people with older accounts how the interface had changed, and has now been seen by most of the intended people. [24]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 May. It will be on all wikis from 16 May (calendar). [25][26]
- The Special:Search results page will now use CSS flex attributes, for better accessibility, instead of a table. If you have a gadget or script that adjusts search results, you should update your script to the new HTML structure. [27]
Future changes
- In the Vector 2022 skin, main pages will be displayed at full width (like special pages). The goal is to keep the number of characters per line large enough. This is related to the coming changes to typography in Vector 2022. Learn more. [28]
- Two columns of the
pagelinks
database table (pl_namespace
andpl_title
) are being dropped soon. Users must use two columns of the newlinktarget
table instead (lt_namespace
andlt_title
). In your existing SQL queries:- Replace
JOIN pagelinks
withJOIN linktarget
andpl_
withlt_
in theON
statement - Below that add
JOIN pagelinks ON lt_id = pl_target_id
- See phab:T222224 for technical reasoning. [29][30]
- Replace
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Question from AllCass (09:33, 16 May 2024)
Hi Rusty! I very recently reverted an edit which was vandalism. A user had replaced the profile box of an article dedicated to someone else, with their own personal information. While undoing the edit, I noticed that the box said to provide an explanation if what I was reverting was not vandalism. I believed what I was going to undo was pretty clearly vandalism so I did not provide an explanation and left the default message as it was. For future reference, should I be adding anything in the edit summary? Or is there anything else that needs to be done? --AllCass (talk) 09:33, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- @AllCass: In this case, I think that just leaving the edit summary as is would be okay; if you think further explanation is needed, you could type more after the text already in the edit summary box as needed.
- You might want to let users know about this by warning them on their talk page. You can find a list here.
- To warn a user, create a section with the current month and year as the subject, or add a comment to an existing section with the current month/year as the name. Paste the code from the list, and remember to sign your posts with four tildes (~~~~ - on the key next to "1" on most English-language keyboards) if using the source editor
- There are also tools that can help you with the revert-and-warn process, like Twinkle, which I use.
- Feel free to ask if you have further questions regarding reverting vandalism or warning users. Rusty4321 talk contribs 18:00, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hiya, thank you so much for the helpful information on warnings! I have provided the user with a gentle, level 1 warning. We should be all good for now, thanks again for all the great help Rusty!
- P.S. Twinkle looks terrifying at the moment, maybe in the future! AllCass (talk) 19:02, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
The Signpost: 16 May 2024
- News and notes: Democracy in action: multiple elections
- Special report: Will the new RfA reform come to the rescue of administrators?
- Arbitration report: Ruined temples for posterity to ponder over – arbitration from '22 to '24
- Comix: Generations
- Traffic report: Crawl out through the fallout, baby
Volume, Issue and Number
Seems to be confusion such as Special:Diff/1221313560/1223346402 and Special:Diff/1209056379/1223346275.
If it says "Vol. 4" this translates to |volume=4
. The volume is not the same thing as |issue=
or |number=
.
|issue=
or |number=
are aliases of each other, they are the same thing. I typically use |number=
but if you prefer you can use |issue=
. Either way, they are not the same thing as |volume=
. Often times, there is only a volume and no issue/number. Some times there is only a issue/number and no volume, but this is less common. The |date=
can be a 4-digit year, or a full date, but either way it should not be confused with volume or issue/number ie. the date is its own thing. Hope that helps. -- GreenC 18:51, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- To clarify, when you add both
|issue=
and|number=
, as here Special:Diff/1221317184/1223347002, it causes a red error to be generated in the citation list, and for the page to be listed at Category:CS1 errors: redundant parameter because these are redundant parameters they mean the same thing. -- GreenC 19:00, 16 May 2024 (UTC)- @GreenC: Aaaah, I see. I believe I saw something somewhere about Volume in
|issue=
, perhaps I misinterpreted it. Thanks. Rusty4321 talk contribs 00:25, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- @GreenC: Aaaah, I see. I believe I saw something somewhere about Volume in
Speedy deletion nomination of Richard Burgin (disambiguation)
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You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.
A tag has been placed on Richard Burgin (disambiguation) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G14 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a disambiguation page which either
- disambiguates only one extant Wikipedia page and whose title ends in "(disambiguation)" (i.e., there is a primary topic);
- disambiguates zero extant Wikipedia pages, regardless of its title; or
- is an orphaned redirect with a title ending in "(disambiguation)" that does not target a disambiguation page or page that has a disambiguation-like function.
Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such pages may be deleted at any time. Please see the disambiguation page guidelines for more information.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:14, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
Question from SZEROb (12:09, 18 May 2024)
Hello Rusty,
I've been a big fan for Wikipedia for a while, used it as my main source of history knowledge, however, never edited anything. Now though is a different situation: I am, being a CPA, former central banker, and now web developer, working on a new type of a social network. And I would like to create a Wikipedia page for it. Do you think it may be rejected just because I have no tenure with Wikipedia?
Regards,
Stas --SZEROb (talk) 12:09, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- @SZEROb: It will probabyl not be rejected because you have no tenure with Wikipedia, as long as it follows the relevant policies and guidelines; I've seen some newcomers create very well-written articles.
- What I'm concerned about is when you say you want to create a Wikipedia page for your new social network. I don't want to discourage you, but it might be hard to write neutrally, from an unbiased perspective, for one.
- Conflict of interests (COIs) also need to be disclosed (see the link for more information). This guide also contains advice and what to do and not do.
- If you think you would be fine writing an article about it, however, start it as a draft through our Articles for Creation process. We have a guide that might help with this.
- Feel free to ask if you have questions. Rusty4321 talk contribs 14:14, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks!
- Is looking at it before I submit something that you can do? SZEROb (talk) 14:15, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- @SZEROb: Yes, I can; any user can see and edit basically any page on Wikipedia. And you don't have to submit it just at once; you can start it, and keep on working on it until you feel that it's ready for submission. Rusty4321 talk contribs 14:18, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I obviously know, was just wondering if it needs some first-level review for first-time posters. Thank you. SZEROb (talk) 15:26, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hopefully last question for today:
- What I am working on is a new type of a web forum/board. Therefore it's a new creation in a new Category.
- I am reading that I add category by adding to my new page, but what if that category does not exist? Do I create Category first? Or does category get created automatically if I add this syntax to my page? SZEROb (talk) 16:48, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I obviously know, was just wondering if it needs some first-level review for first-time posters. Thank you. SZEROb (talk) 15:26, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- @SZEROb: Yes, I can; any user can see and edit basically any page on Wikipedia. And you don't have to submit it just at once; you can start it, and keep on working on it until you feel that it's ready for submission. Rusty4321 talk contribs 14:18, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- Never mind, I found the answer myself! SZEROb (talk) 16:52, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-21
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The Nuke feature, which enables administrators to mass delete pages, will now correctly delete pages which were moved to another title. [31]
- New changes have been made to the UploadWizard in Wikimedia Commons: the overall layout has been improved, by following new styling and spacing for the form and its fields; the headers and helper text for each of the fields was changed; the Caption field is now a required field, and there is an option for users to copy their caption into the media description. [32][33]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 May. It will be on all wikis from 23 May (calendar). [34][35]
- The HTML used to render all headings is being changed to improve accessibility. It will change on 22 May in some skins (Timeless, Modern, CologneBlue, Nostalgia, and Monobook). Please test gadgets on your wiki on these skins and report any related problems so that they can be resolved before this change is made in all other skins. The developers are also considering the introduction of a Gadget API for adding buttons to section titles if that would be helpful to tool creators, and would appreciate any input you have on that.
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MediaWiki message delivery 23:02, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
Question from Kevinswa (13:38, 19 May 2024)
how do i do a article? --Kevinswa (talk) 13:38, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Kevinswa: Hello! See Help:Your first article for details on writing an article. Rusty4321 talk contribs 23:29, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
Women in Red June 2024
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Question from Rohitis7 (12:04, 23 May 2024)
Can I earn money by creating a Wikipedia page? --Rohitis7 (talk) 12:04, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Rohitis7: No, you can’t. We’re all volunteers and work for free. Rusty4321 talk contribs 14:55, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
Women in Red
Hi there, Rusty4321, and welcome to Women in Red. It's good to see you intend to spend some of you editing time helping us to improve Wikipedia's coverage of women. As you have not yet created any articles, with the help of our Ten Simple Rules, you might like to have a go at creating a woman's biography. Please let me know if you run into any difficulties or need assistance. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 16:27, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Ipigott: Thank you! Rusty4321 talk contribs 14:31, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
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Tech News: 2024-22
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Several bugs related to the latest updates to the UploadWizard on Wikimedia Commons have been fixed. For more information, see T365107 and T365119.
- In March 2024 a new addPortlet API was added to allow gadgets to create new portlets (menus) in the skin. In certain skins this can be used to create dropdowns. Gadget developers are invited to try it and give feedback.
- Some CSS in the Minerva skin has been removed to enable easier community configuration. Interface editors should check the rendering on mobile devices for aspects related to the classes:
.collapsible
,.multicol
,.reflist
,.coordinates
,.topicon
. Further details are available on replacement CSS if it is needed.
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 May. It will be on all wikis from 30 May (calendar). [36][37]
- When you visit a wiki where you don't yet have a local account, local rules such as edit filters can sometimes prevent your account from being created. Starting this week, MediaWiki takes your global rights into account when evaluating whether you can override such local rules. [38]
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Question from Randal K (15:52, 28 May 2024)
Hello Rusty:
Yesterday I began composing my first article and learning out how to use the layout tools. Randal K article name: POLKA DOT ALLEY a flamenco dance trilogy After adding a few paragraphs I thought, how do I save what I wrote in order to continue later. Seeing no Save Button I accidentally clicked the Publish button.
After logging out I got an email from Ivvaqarhashmi via Wiki that said my article was speedily deleted. Of course it was deleted because it was far from being finished. And I know now the Publish Button was the wrong choice.
When I view the email message I received and see a link with the words “contest the nomination by visiting the page”, and click it, it takes me back to the same page.
When I go back to continue my article a box reads Randal K been deleted.
Can you help me to get reinstated so I can continue adding content to finish my documentary film article?
Thank you, Randal K --Randal K (talk) 15:52, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Randal K: Hello and welcome to Wikipedia.
- No, the "Publish Changes" button is how you save any change on Wikipedia. It wasn't deleted because it wasn't finished, it was because someone thought you were using making a personal webpage of sorts. The page wasn't restored to your user page; it was restored to a draft, at Draft:Polka Dot Alley.
- As long it is a draft, it can basically be as unfinished as it is, and you can keep adding to it. Rusty4321 talk contribs 17:24, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Also, as Primefac said, I recommend you to read Help:Your first article, and look at the page Wikipedia:42 to ensure that the article meets our basic inclusion criteria. Rusty4321 talk contribs 17:27, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Polka Dot Alley
Hi Rusty, Thank you for your email. I put up a portion of content yesterday to see what it might look like. I plan on working on it for the next month or so while reading how other film articles are written and formatted. Regarding your encyclopedia like comment, I agree. And yes I would like to hear your suggestions. Thank you, Randal Randal K (talk) 16:26, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Randal K:
- To be clear, I am not sending you emails; it is email notifications you are getting.
- Also, could you please "reply" to existing comments rather than starting a new topic each time? Thanks.
- Your plan sounds good. Feel free to ask if you run in to problems or have questions.
- Rusty4321 talk contribs 16:54, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Question from Khalid Bin Ashraf (15:41, 29 May 2024)
How do I create a Citation --Khalid Bin Ashraf (talk) 15:41, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Khalid Bin Ashraf: Welcome. Please see Help:Referencing for beginners. Rusty4321 talk contribs 16:57, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Polka Dot Alkey
Hi Rusty, You asked that I use a ´reply’ button but all I see is an ´add topic’ button. So I took a screenshot but can’t figure out how to attach it here. You then said my plan sounds good but I’ve again been speedily deleted, all my content is gone, and I cannot figure out how to be reinstated - wondering what am I dong wrong? Randal K Randal K (talk) 17:34, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Randal K: You could request another restore (at WP:REFUND). I'd recommend restoring it into Draftspace (Draft:Polka Dot Alley), as a page like this (unencyclopedic) in userspace is more likely to be deleted especially when it's in userspace. As for the "reply" button, I see "[ reply ]" links even when logged out, so that is interesting. Rusty4321 talk contribs 17:40, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
Question from Futbucker29 (03:30, 2 June 2024)
Hello Rusty. I was under the impression that I can add a subject. I am happy to contribute to already existing articles, however, I'd be happy to also suggest my own. If you have a certain guidelines,please let me know. --Futbucker29 (talk) 03:30, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
why was my edit to the Adolf Fredrick article changed back to what it said before???
why was my edit to the Adolf Fredrick article put back the way it was before. Even though the facts were true. And I just thought I'd edit it an add Real facts to the article! 140.141.142.210 (talk) 16:53, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
The edit I made was full of true Facts, So why was it deleted and changed back??? 140.141.142.210 (talk) 16:57, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- I reverted the initial edit you made because I thought the first wording was better. In the sentence following it states "Popular stories about his death having resulted from a large meal...are considered propaganda by modern writers."
- Your second edit wasn't reverted by me, I recommend asking the reverting user Maungapohatu. Rusty4321 talk contribs 18:31, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-23
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- It is now possible for local administrators to add new links to the bottom of the site Tools menu without JavaScript. Documentation is available. [39]
- The message name for the definition of the tracking category of WikiHiero has changed from "
MediaWiki:Wikhiero-usage-tracking-category
" to "MediaWiki:Wikihiero-usage-tracking-category
". [40] - One new wiki has been created: a Wikipedia in Kadazandusun (
w:dtp:
) [41]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 June. It will be on all wikis from 6 June (calendar). [42][43]
Future changes
- Next week, on wikis with the Vector 2022 skin as the default, logged-out desktop users will be able to choose between different font sizes. The default font size will also be increased for them. This is to make Wikimedia projects easier to read. Learn more.
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MediaWiki message delivery 22:33, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
drafts?
Hi Rusty:
Although Primetec said he restored my username I'm still getting dialog boxes saying “Wikipedia does not have a user page with this exact title,” and “A page with this title has previously been moved or deleted.”
I got a message from you talking about drafts.
On my Wiki page I see links titled Homepage, User Page, and Talk.
But I do not see a link called drafts.
Do you mean I should NOT add content to my User Page.?
Are you saying I should be adding content to a Drafts page and saving that draft by clicking Publish?
Could you please clarify this? Randal K (talk) 18:08, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Randal K:
- Primefac restored the content to a Draft page. You will not see a link for "Drafts," but you can access the page through the search bar like you would any article, but prefixing the title with "Draft:" like "Draft:Polka Dot Alley."
- Generally, a user page's purpose is to give information about the editor themselves, but some users also use it to develop drafts. The "Draft" space is designed just for developing articles.
- Also, I noticed that the content you currently have written on your user page doesn't exactly read like an encyclopedia article. We have a Manual of Style and I can give you a few suggestions on the article formatting if you'd like them. Rusty4321 talk contribs 23:13, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Rusty,
- My content has been restored to “Draft:Polka Dot Alley.”
- When on Draft:Polka Dot Alley, if I click the Edit button and make an edit my only choice to save seems to be clicking the Publish button and I’m hesitant to do so. In the past, clicking Publish sent my article to a space where others reviewed it and of course it’s not ready to be reviewed. So I’m wondering, on Draft pages why is there not a Save button?
- And will every Draft edit be reviewed?
- Is the Publish button what I should use to save my work in the Draft space?
- Thank you, Randal K Randal K (talk) 17:31, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Randal K:
- Each namespace is always subject to review, even draft space. However, there is a difference in standards between these namespaces.
- For example, if I write "John is ugly," it doesn't matter where on Wikipedia, it would be deleted.
- If I write simply "Smith is a famous YouTuber" in article space, it might be deleted, or moved to draft space. In draft space, however, this article would be allowed to develop until it is suitable for publication in the main space.
- It's possible that it was deleted initially because "Unencyclopedic" content in user space, especially by new users, can be viewed as a misunderstanding that Wikipedia could be used as a website hosting service.
- Addressing your concern, there is only a publish button because of how Wikipedia works. By clicking on the publish button you are putting your work out into the world–giving it to the Wikipedia community–where anyone can see it and/or improve it.
- Here are some relevant links that may help you with article creation:
- If you have any specific questions regarding article layout, feel free to ask.
- --Rusty4321 talk contribs 23:14, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – June 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2024).
- Phase II of the 2024 RfA review has commenced to improve and refine the proposals passed in Phase I.
- The Nuke feature, which enables administrators to mass delete pages, will now correctly delete pages which were moved to another title. T43351
- The arbitration case Venezuelan politics has been closed.
- The Committee is seeking volunteers for various roles, including access to the conflict of interest VRT queue.
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- News from the WMF: Progress on the plan — how the Wikimedia Foundation advanced on its Annual Plan goals during the first half of fiscal year 2023-2024
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Question from Axendwyth on Bill Nolan (footballer, born 1927) (05:43, 10 June 2024)
How do I add a picture? --Axendwyth (talk) 05:43, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Axendwyth: On the Visual Editor you can click on "Insert" and then "Images and media" to add an already-uploaded image. If you'd like to upload a free image, Wikimedia Commons is the place to do so. Rusty4321 talk contribs 17:07, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-24
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The software used to render SVG files has been updated to a new version, fixing many longstanding bugs in SVG rendering. [44]
- The HTML used to render all headings is being changed to improve accessibility. It was changed last week in some skins (Vector legacy and Minerva). Please test gadgets on your wiki on these skins and report any related problems so that they can be resolved before this change is made in Vector-2022. The developers are still considering the introduction of a Gadget API for adding buttons to section titles if that would be helpful to tool creators, and would appreciate any input you have on that.
- The HTML markup used for citations by Parsoid changed last week. In places where Parsoid previously added the
mw-reference-text
class, Parsoid now also adds thereference-text
class for better compatibility with the legacy parser. More details are available. [45]
Problems
- There was a bug with the Content Translation interface that caused the tools menus to appear in the wrong location. This has now been fixed. [46]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 11 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 12 June. It will be on all wikis from 13 June (calendar). [47][48]
- The new version of MediaWiki includes another change to the HTML markup used for citations: Parsoid will now generate a
<span class="mw-cite-backlink">
wrapper for both named and unnamed references for better compatibility with the legacy parser. Interface administrators should verify that gadgets that interact with citations are compatible with the new markup. More details are available. [49] - On multilingual wikis that use the
<translate>
system, there is a feature that shows potentially-outdated translations with a pink background until they are updated or confirmed. From this week, confirming translations will be logged, and there is a new user-right that can be required for confirming translations if the community requests it. [50]
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Tech News: 2024-25
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- People who attempt to add an external link in the visual editor will now receive immediate feedback if they attempt to link to a domain that a project has decided to block. Please see Edit check for more details. [51]
- The new Community Configuration extension is available on Test Wikipedia. This extension allows communities to customize specific features to meet their local needs. Currently only Growth features are configurable, but the extension will support other Community Configuration use cases in the future. [52][53]
- The dark mode beta feature is now available on category and help pages, as well as more special pages. There may be contrast issues. Please report bugs on the project talk page. [54]
Problems
- Cloud Services tools were not available for 25 minutes last week. This was caused by a faulty hardware cable in the data center. [55]
- Last week, styling updates were made to the Vector 2022 skin. This caused unforeseen issues with templates, hatnotes, and images. Changes to templates and hatnotes were reverted. Most issues with images were fixed. If you still see any, report them here. [56]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 June. It will be on all wikis from 20 June (calendar). [57][58]
- Starting June 18, the Reference Edit Check will be deployed to a new set of Wikipedias. This feature is intended to help newcomers and to assist edit-patrollers by inviting people who are adding new content to a Wikipedia article to add a citation when they do not do so themselves. During a test at 11 wikis, the number of citations added more than doubled when Reference Check was shown to people. Reference Check is community configurable. [59]
- Mailing lists will be unavailable for roughly two hours on Tuesday 10:00–12:00 UTC. This is to enable migration to a new server and upgrade its software. [60]
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Question from Jordansankey (08:54, 19 June 2024)
Hey! So, how do I create a page? My subject is 'Edgar Elmer Burr', a Pioneer of the Similkameen Valley in British Columbia. --Jordansankey (talk) 08:54, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Jordansankey: Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. To create an article, first you need sources. Under our "general notability guideline,"
A topic is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list when it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject.
Then, you can start writing by starting a draft a Articles for Creation. See Help:Your first article for more information. Rusty talk contribs 14:27, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
Question from Yung Wolf DJ (17:34, 23 June 2024)
Hello sir I just wanted to know if an individual can get paid after editing --Yung Wolf DJ (talk) 17:34, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Yung Wolf DJ: No, we are volunteers and don't get paid. If anyone is asking you to pay them for the creation of an article it is a scam. Rusty talk contribs 22:16, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-26
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Editors will notice that there have been some changes to the background color of text in the diff view, and the color of the byte-change numbers, last week. These changes are intended to make text more readable in both light mode and dark mode, and are part of a larger effort to increase accessibility. You can share your comments or questions on the project talkpage. [61]
- The text colors that are used for visited-links, hovered-links, and active-links, were also slightly changed last week to improve their accessibility in both light mode and dark mode. [62]
Problems
- You can copy permanent links to talk page comments by clicking on a comment's timestamp. This feature did not always work when the topic title was very long and the link was used as a wikitext link. This has been fixed. Thanks to Lofhi for submitting the bug. [63]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 June. It will be on all wikis from 27 June (calendar). [64][65]
- Starting 26 June, all talk pages messages' timestamps will become a link at English Wikipedia, making this feature available for you to use at all wikis. This link is a permanent link to the comment. It allows users to find the comment they were linked to, even if this comment has since been moved elsewhere. You can read more about this feature on Diff or on Mediawiki.org. [66]
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MediaWiki message delivery 22:30, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
Question from Hummusapiens on ET3 Global Alliance (08:36, 17 June 2024)
Is it possible to add pictures? I would also like to add a citation that is not on the web, is there a way to do it automatically? --Hummusapiens (talk) 08:36, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Hummusapiens: Yep to both questions. Pictures under a license that allows reuse can be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons. Once uploaded, they can be used here under the filename you chose when uploading.
- If the offline source has some form of identifier (such as a book with ISBN, a scientific paper with DOI), it can be generated automatically. Otherwise, you may have to enter it in manually.
- I hope this helped. Rusty talk contribs 14:23, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! Hummusapiens (talk) 13:57, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Question from Hummusapiens on ET3 Global Alliance (08:13, 17 June 2024)
Hello, when is it appropiate for there to be a citation? Some sentences have citations and others don't... --Hummusapiens (talk) 08:13, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Hummusapiens: Well, if there are two sentences and then a citation, the two sentences could be both supported by that citation. Rusty talk contribs 14:15, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Can an entire paragraph be supported by one citation? Hummusapiens (talk) 13:58, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Question from Treivor (05:21, 30 June 2024)
How to edit page --Treivor (talk) 05:21, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Treivor: Can't you just press Edit? Rusty talk contribs 06:03, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
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Question from Frostytails (19:47, 30 June 2024)
Just login on, could you just give me a quick run down of things --Frostytails (talk) 19:47, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Frostytails: Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. We're the world's largest encyclopedia. If you'd like to contribute, that's great! We have a whole guide on it. But don't worry, just be bold and don't be afraid to make mistakes. If you do, someone will probably tell you nicely. Have fun! Rusty talk contribs 22:46, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
Question from NikiWiki808 (09:04, 1 July 2024)
Hello, how to add an image into an article? --NikiWiki808 (talk) 09:04, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- @NikiWiki808: Pictures under a license that allows reuse can be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons. Once uploaded, they can be used here under the filename you chose when uploading. Rusty talk contribs 17:36, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-27
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Over the next three weeks, dark mode will become available for all users, both logged-in and logged-out, starting with the mobile web version. This fulfils one of the top-requested community wishes, and improves low-contrast reading and usage in low-light settings. As part of these changes, dark mode will also work on User-pages and Portals. There is more information in the latest Web team update. [67]
- Logged-in users can now set global preferences for the text-size and dark-mode, thanks to a combined effort across Foundation teams. This allows Wikimedians using multiple wikis to set up a consistent reading experience easily, for example by switching between light and dark mode only once for all wikis. [68]
- If you use a very old web browser some features might not work on the Wikimedia wikis. This affects Internet Explorer 11 and versions of Chrome, Firefox and Safari older than 2016. This change makes it possible to use new CSS features and to send less code to all readers. [69][70]
- Wikipedia Admins can customize local wiki configuration options easily using Community Configuration. Community Configuration was created to allow communities to customize how some features work, because each language wiki has unique needs. At the moment, admins can configure Growth features on their home wikis, in order to better recruit and retain new editors. More options will be provided in the coming months. [71]
- Editors interested in language issues that are related to Unicode standards, can now discuss those topics at a new conversation space in MediaWiki.org. The Wikimedia Foundation is now a member of the Unicode Consortium, and the coordination group can collaboratively review the issues discussed and, where appropriate, bring them to the attention of the Unicode Consortium.
- One new wiki has been created: a Wikipedia in Mandailing (
w:btm:
) [72]
Problems
- Editors can once again click on links within the visual editor's citation-preview, thanks to a bug fix by the Editing Team. [73]
Future changes
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The Signpost: 4 July 2024
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July 2024
Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. When you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, such as at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism, (but never when editing articles), please be sure to sign your posts. There are two ways to do this. Either:
- Add four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment, or
- With the cursor positioned at the end of your comment, click on the signature button located above the edit window.
This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is necessary to allow other editors to easily see who wrote what and when.
Thank you. -Lemonaka 03:02, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Lemonaka: Yes, thanks for reminding me. I'm aware, but sometimes I do just forget, especially when I'm a bit excited or nervous. Rusty talk contribs 03:04, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Rusty4321 Have a try for twinkle when reporting, they will sign for your automatically. -Lemonaka 03:05, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – July 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2024).
- Local administrators can now add new links to the bottom of the site Tools menu without using JavaScript. Documentation is available on MediaWiki. (T6086)
- The Community Wishlist is re-opening on 15 July 2024. Read more
Question from Ep4987 (13:50, 8 July 2024)
Hi I need help understanding citations --Ep4987 (talk) 13:50, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Ep4987: Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. See help:Referencing for beginners for more information. Rusty 🐈 18:08, 8 July 2024 (UTC)