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Denying Bulgarian participation in Ilinden-Preobrazhenie uprising
editHi, denying the Bulgarian participation in the Ilinden-Preobrazhenie uprising is a nonsense. For example per John Van Antwerp Fine: "Until the late 19th century both outside observers and those Bulgaro-Macedonians who had an ethnic consciousness believed that their group, which is now two separate nationalities, comprised a single people, the Bulgarians. Thus the reader should ignore references to ethnic Macedonians in the Middle ages which appear in some modern works. In the Middle ages and into the 19th century, the term ‘Macedonian’ was used entirely in reference to a geographical region. Anyone who lived within its confines, regardless of nationality could be called a Macedonian...Nevertheless, the absence of a national consciousness in the past is no grounds to reject the Macedonians as a nationality today." Check: "The Early Medieval Balkans: A Critical Survey from the Sixth to the Late Twelfth Century," University of Michigan Press, 1991, ISBN 0472081497, pp. 36–37. The same fact is confirmed by another reliable source, specialized in the history of North Macedonia, that claims, prior to the Balkan Wars, i.e. at the end of the Ottoman rule, Macedonist ideas were shared not from significant community, or the like, but only by a handful of intellectuals: check the Historical Dictionary of the Republic of Macedonia, Dimitar Bechev, Scarecrow Press, 2009, ISBN 0810862956, p. 140. According to Loring M. Danforth: The political and military leaders of the Slavs of Macedonia at the turn of the (20th) century seem not to have heard the call for a separate Macedonian national identity; they continued to identify themselves in a national sense as Bulgarians rather than Macedonians[...] (They) never seem to have doubted "the predominantly Bulgarian character of the population of Macedonia". For more see: "The Macedonian conflict: ethnic nationalism in a transnational world", Princeton University Press, 1997, ISBN 0691043566, p. 64. Also look here: In October 1893 a Bulgarian Macedonian revolutionary organization was founded in Thessaloniki. Its main goal was the autonomy of Macedonia as a first step to union with Bulgaria. It is interesting to note that the founders of the organization supposed that Macedonia could become a unit in the Balkan federation...In January 1903 preparation for the Ilinden uprising began, which was the height of the liberation struggle of the Macedonian Bulgarians. Check Lora Gerd, Russian Policy in the Orthodox East: The Patriarchate of Constantinople (1878-1914) De Gruyter Open, 2014, ISBN 8376560328, p. 9.Jingiby (talk) 11:24, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hi again. Keep in mind, that initially the membership in the IMRO was restricted only for Bulgarians. Its first name was "Bulgarian Macedonian-Adrianople Revolutionary Committees", which was later changed several times. IMRO was active not only in Macedonia but also in Thrace (the Vilayet of Adrianople). Since its early name emphasized the Bulgarian nature of the organization by linking the inhabitants of Thrace and Macedonia to Bulgaria, these facts are still difficult to be explained from the Macedonian historiography. They suggest that IMRO revolutionaries in the Ottoman period did not differentiate between ‘Macedonians’ and ‘Bulgarians’. Moreover, as their own writings attest, they often saw themselves and their compatriots as ‘Bulgarians’. All of them wrote in standard Bulgarian language. For more see: Brunnbauer, Ulf (2004) "Historiography, Myths and the Nation in the Republic of Macedonia". In: Brunnbauer, Ulf, (ed.) (Re)Writing History. Historiography in Southeast Europe after Socialism. Studies on South East Europe, vol. 4. LIT, Münster, pp. 165-200, ISBN 382587365X. Jingiby (talk) 12:18, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
June 2022
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