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- Only part of the content was chosen from the language on the official website, but you went and deleted the draft directly, resulting in the direct deletion of the page I had been editing for a long time, and all my hard work was wasted. This is very upsetting, and makes a newcomer to Wikipedia feel cold! Realmomo (talk) 09:03, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that you feel that way, but we must take copyright violations seriously, as they potentially put Wikipedia in legal jeopardy. 331dot (talk) 09:04, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- There are many ways to deal with this behavior, but the fact that you just deleted it without a reminder is chilling. Realmomo (talk) 09:07, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- You are more than welcome to create a draft about this university that summarizes what independent reliable sources choose on their own to say about it, showing how it is a notable organization, and does not lift content from its website. 331dot (talk) 09:09, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks for the advice. Realmomo (talk) 09:37, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- You are more than welcome to create a draft about this university that summarizes what independent reliable sources choose on their own to say about it, showing how it is a notable organization, and does not lift content from its website. 331dot (talk) 09:09, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- There are many ways to deal with this behavior, but the fact that you just deleted it without a reminder is chilling. Realmomo (talk) 09:07, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that you feel that way, but we must take copyright violations seriously, as they potentially put Wikipedia in legal jeopardy. 331dot (talk) 09:04, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
You're going to need sources other than those related to the university. If it's going to take time for you to find them, I would recommend that you allow the article to be placed in draft space so you can take all the time you need to work on it. You should also take care to write in a neutral point of view that does not talk up the university("Taking advantage of its unique geographical advantage of proximity to Hong Kong and Macao and its innovation strengths, Zhuhai Campus aims to build a southern highland for the training of excellent teachers"). Are you associated with this university in some way? 331dot (talk) 09:42, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
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Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you recently removed maintenance templates from Wikipedia. When removing maintenance templates, please be sure to either resolve the problem that the template refers to, or give a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Please see Help:Maintenance template removal for further information on when maintenance templates should or should not be removed. If this was a mistake, don't worry, as your removal of this template has been reverted. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. You have not resolved the issues identified by the tags. Please do not remove these again unless the issues are resolved. 331dot (talk) 10:27, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- I've rewritten most of it and the problem with these tags has been solved. Realmomo (talk) 10:29, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- No, the issues are not resolved. The article is entirely sourced to primary sources and is not a summary of what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the university, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable university.
- Furthermore, as the university appears to be part of a larger organization, it could be that it does not merit a standalone article about it, and any information could go in the article about the larger organization. 331dot (talk) 10:33, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Perhaps you missed when I asked earlier- are you associated with this university in some way? 331dot (talk) 10:33, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- I am an international student at this school, which is unique in that its campus is very distant from the main campus and therefore relatively independent.So it does merit a standalone article about it. Realmomo (talk) 10:38, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, then you need to locate independent reliable sources with significant coverage of your university that can be summarized in this article. To be a standalone article, those sources must discuss your campus as a distinct entity from the parent organization.
- If it's going to take time for you to find sources, I highly advise you to consent to the article being moved to draft space so it is at much less risk of a deletion discussion. 331dot (talk) 10:44, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- The fact that you write "is a southern campus of the same level as Beijing campus, both of which are planned, progressed and presented as one university" is a very, very strong indicator that this campus does not merit a standalone article. 331dot (talk) 10:45, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- I think you misunderstand.The relationship between Beijing Normal University and Beijing Normal University at Zhuhai is similar to that between UC Berkeley and UCLA, but since they are within China, they issue the same diploma, and even so, many of their institutions are relatively independent. They have a very special relationship. Realmomo (talk) 10:57, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Your analogy is not the sense I'm getting from what you are writing. UCLA and Berkeley are both state institutions answerable to the same state body(Regents of the University of California) but issue their own diplomas and are operated as separate organizations. You seem to be saying that this university is one of two campuses of the same larger university- akin to two separate Walmart stores. 331dot (talk) 11:11, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- In my US state we have the University of Southern Maine; it has three campuses, but each campus does not have a separate article. 331dot (talk) 11:13, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, but the two campuses of this university are far apart, similar to how one university is in New York and one is in Los Angeles, and those are their campuses. Because of this, they are relatively independent in many areas. But in China, the situation is special, they are issuing the same diploma. The situation is similar to "Harbin Institute of Technology, Shenzhen". Since I am an international student, I may not be able to say it well enough. Realmomo (talk) 11:28, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- If that's the case, then you should be writing less about how it is part of a larger university and more about how it is important as a distinct topic, summarizing sources that discuss this campus as a distinct topic. Again, if that's going to take time, the article should be in draft space. 331dot (talk) 11:30, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- OK,I got it. Realmomo (talk) 11:34, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- If that's the case, then you should be writing less about how it is part of a larger university and more about how it is important as a distinct topic, summarizing sources that discuss this campus as a distinct topic. Again, if that's going to take time, the article should be in draft space. 331dot (talk) 11:30, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, but the two campuses of this university are far apart, similar to how one university is in New York and one is in Los Angeles, and those are their campuses. Because of this, they are relatively independent in many areas. But in China, the situation is special, they are issuing the same diploma. The situation is similar to "Harbin Institute of Technology, Shenzhen". Since I am an international student, I may not be able to say it well enough. Realmomo (talk) 11:28, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- I think you misunderstand.The relationship between Beijing Normal University and Beijing Normal University at Zhuhai is similar to that between UC Berkeley and UCLA, but since they are within China, they issue the same diploma, and even so, many of their institutions are relatively independent. They have a very special relationship. Realmomo (talk) 10:57, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- I am an international student at this school, which is unique in that its campus is very distant from the main campus and therefore relatively independent.So it does merit a standalone article about it. Realmomo (talk) 10:38, 27 August 2024 (UTC)