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In my response to: Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 16:53, 19 June 2017 (UTC) (I have deleted his response and most of my reply to that)Reply


A trivial matter: in my notifications there is one that i have made 10 edits and i don't think they include the Steve Benford article. The only edit i know of is correcting a spelling error in Wikiquotes, a minor edit. The notification says something about a book called Wikipedia on Bible Part III A which is confusing. I had no idea that it would be available to other people. in any case that was just a start and was superseded by a far longer book called Wikipedia on Bible Part III, mostly about Pseudepigrapha (in my opinion).

I have found the answer to the trivial matter at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Rameshkkhanna the number isn't ten as far as i can see. I had forgotten a minor edit a few days ago.

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Until late last night i didn't realize other people could see my talk page. I know that is stupid of me, after all, what would be the point of the talk page if no one could see it.

If i had realized that i would have been more circumspect about what i wrote there. Therefore i have now deleted most of the page. however people would still be able see the unfortunate comments by looking at the history. Is there any way of deleting the history?

I don't know if it was all right to delete administrators' contributions.

Rameshkkhanna (talk) 11:06, 20 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Rameshkkhanna:, I have another link or two for you that may help answer your questions. First of all, you should know that the guidelines on user talk pages, such as this one, don't prohibit deleting posts written by others on your talk page. That said, it is assumed that anything that you deleted which was written by another editor here is something which you read first. You can also find at that link a list of certain notices and other posts which should not be deleted.
The process of removing deleted items and posts from not only the talk page but also the talk page history is called "Revision Deletion". The criteria for what is eligible for revision deletion is available at this link. If you feel that something you previously said qualifies under one of those criteria, then you can contact any one of the administrators listed in this category, (preferably through their "Email user" link) and tell them what you need deleted and why you think it needs to go. Do not contact more than a few just because you aren't getting the response you want as quickly as you want. Remember, the administrators are volunteers and they can't be expected to work on an arbitrary timescale. I hope this helps. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 13:56, 20 June 2017 (UTC)Reply


I am assuming you are monitoring this page Eggishorn. Thank you for the gentle way in which you are urging me on. As this is my first article your way is greatly appreciated. I will seek to just put my remarks criticizing Fr. Steve into the revision deletion process and perhaps my references to that.

When i talked to him this morning after the Mass, I got him to say that it does not matter to him whether or not there is an article. (I prompted him). But i gathered that he found this kind of attention embarrassing, as befits a humble servant of God. As you said his opinion is not relevant. I am having problems with gathering information as all reports seem to be based on rehashing the one press release. I am not in a position to pursue writing this article for the time being.

Rameshkkhanna (talk) 18:48, 20 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

I do have this page on my watchlist, @Rameshkkhanna:, but I cannot guarantee I will always be able to respond. That said, I will agree with the sentiment, if not the wording, of your last sentence. It would appear that you are too close to Father Bensen and should let others create and edit the article. In the meantime, can I suggest you give The Wikipedia Adventure a try? It may lead you to more-rewarding paths of participation here. Good luck. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 19:07, 20 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

To Eggishorn: I am not close at all to Fr. Steve BENFORD. He is much far too much above me for that and as priest he cannot be close to me as i don't believe in that kind of thing. He simply tolerates me and my strange religious belief, at least some of the time. I won't explain in full.

However i am not unbiased in this matter so as you say i should leave this project to someone else and my health problems also indicate that

Rameshkkhanna (talk) 20:23, 20 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

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I have received an email that says:

"The Wikipedia page Steve Benford has been changed on 18 August 2017 by Boleyn, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Benford for the current revision.

"Editor's summary: -

"Contact the editor"

I cannot see any change. If i look at the pages editing history it says no change. So what has Boleyn changed?

I have also received a mail saying the article has been reviewed. I don't understand what that means. presumably a review has been written but where do i see that?

Rameshkkhanna (talk) 14:26, 20 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

Boleyn did not change anything but marked the page as patrolled. That's a cursory check to weed out obviously inappropriate new pages: Attack pages, spam, copyright violations and the like. The article you created didn't have any of those problems, so it was just marked OK. Huon (talk) 17:19, 20 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

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Steve Benford, about whom i wrote an article, has now been ordained Bishop of Dunedin in New Zealand according to The Otago Times. There is a picture in the article which I have downloaded from Google and want to put in article:

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Benford++Anglican+bishop&client=ubuntu&channel=fs&noj=1&tbm=isch&imgil=l6c43qdXI2oqRM%253A%253B-LGhPts58H1zyM%253Bhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.odt.co.nz%25252Fnews%25252Fdunedin%25252Ftenth-bishop-dunedin-ordained&source=iu&pf=m&fir=l6c43qdXI2oqRM%253A%252C-LGhPts58H1zyM%252C_&usg=__1FcCy4quhcJCGlDHak45K1GwhyU%3D&biw=989&bih=475&ved=0ahUKEwi9v5HQ57vWAhWMmbQKHd2gCM4QyjcITQ&ei=xJbGWb3NEIyz0gXdwaLwDA#imgrc=l6c43qdXI2oqRM:

As I do not own the picture how do i put it in? In fact i don't remember how i put in the picture that is already in the article.

Rameshkkhanna (talk) 17:46, 23 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

That picture cannot be used on Wikipedia. It's copyrighted and not released under a free license; using it on Wikipedia would be a copyright violation. Huon (talk) 18:01, 23 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

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This concerns the Steve Benford page.

The reference after "is the Bishop of Dunedin" refers to his election as Bishop. now i have two possible reports (one from a local newspaper and one from "Anglican Otago") of his ordination as Bishop to be inserted after "ordained and installed on 22 September 2017."

The previous reference is still needed, both here and later on in the article.

My problem is that i have forgotten how to insert a reference and any way i had not done it right before and an administer had to correct it.

After finishing this help request i will look again at:

"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Referencing_for_beginners ". And then try to do it by myself but as beofre i had not got it right i don't see how i will now.

The newspaper reference is:https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/tenth-bishop-dunedin-ordained The reference from the Church is: http://www.anglicantaonga.org.nz/News/Tikanga-Pakeha/BishopDn

Rameshkkhanna (talk) 11:52, 28 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

The easiest way to do this is with the RefToolbar - open the page for editing and you should see a Cite option at the top of the edit window. Click on this and choose "cite news" from the Templates menu that appears. Then just fill in the boxes. More on references (in an easier format than the official version) here. Yunshui  13:59, 28 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

I write here on the basis that you, Yunshui, are monitoring this. I decided that the simplest thing was to reference manually. I am using a computer running Ubuntu Studio and using the browser Chromium (sister of Chrome) and i am unsure of Javascript in this. The references went in but at the bottom the link appears rather than the headline

I am, but you can also notify me by adding {{ping|Yunshui}} to the start of your messages (obviously you can change the username to notify other editors instead). You've added the references correctly, but you haven't formatted them, so they're still bare URLs. Give me a few minutes and I'll sort them out for you... Yunshui  10:49, 29 September 2017 (UTC)Reply
Here are the changes to make the correct information appear. Yunshui  10:53, 29 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for putting the references right. I have not quite understood what you did but i will take another look when my ruach is stilled. I had decided to refrain from editing but after your kind interventions I will reconsider this position.

I actually used an automated program (ReFill) because I'm lazy, but all that did was reformat the citations using the {{cite web}} template. Click on that link for more information about the template. Yunshui  11:04, 29 September 2017 (UTC)Reply
In addition to the essay I linked above, try reading this to find out a bit more about templates. Yunshui  11:07, 29 September 2017 (UTC)Reply