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wikify!
Slovenly is a word I find myself using quite a bit at the moment. Slovenly is what I think of anybody who leaves a message here about an article and fails to provide a wikilink to the article. How do you expect me to read the article if you don't link to it?
I reserve the right to ignore any message which does not provide links where appropriate or has not been signed with ~~~~. Even if the article has been deleted, you should still link to it.
And if that sounds like a grumpy old man, it's because I am ...

The Knowledge Centre for Agriculture Deletion

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iON Manufacturing page

Hi Roger, Thank you for taking the time to carefully review the content of the iON Manufacturing Solution page. I understand your concern on the advertorial language and would like to meet all the wiki guidelines. We put our best foot forward to give a neutral picture of the Cloud service offering provided by iON for the SMB verticals. As best practice, have also reviewed the SAP ERP page. Kindly put the page back online (un-delete) and mark the sections you feel should be re-written and our content writer will follow the prescribed guidelines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.111.249.151 (talk) 13:42, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

This comment is posted by Chirantan Ghosh, creator of the above mentioned wiki page. — Chirantan Ghosh (talk) 10:00, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

• Please read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:03, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Not sure why my name is not showing the above post despite logged in Wiki. Kindly make the iON Manufacturing Solution page live and mark the areas that needs re-work in your opinion. Chirantan Ghosh (talk) 10:00, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

• You are so wrapped up in your specialised trade that you have forgotten how to talk to people in the real world. For example, in the above what the <expletive deleted> is a "vertical" and what is special about the verticals on Santa Monica Boulevard? Your article says that it is about an "integrated manufacturing ERP on Cloud" but since the concept of electronic road pricing on clouds seems like a joke, one is left bemused as to what the article might be about.

But seriously, Fuhghettaboutit (talk · contribs) applied the {{db-spam}} tag with an edit summary of "this could not be more of an advertisement" and I agree with them. Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks your product is notable and writes about it here. You can raise the matter at deletion review but do not raise your hopes too high. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:54, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

• I see that you have already been told about marketing buzzwords. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:02, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

The Wizard Man of Sutton and Croydon

I am asking you this as someone else who is likely to have heard of him. Before I write the article on him, how likely is he to be notable?--Launchballer 17:39, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

• I have never heard of him. Let us see the external links you would use in the article. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:00, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

• When seeing the title, I assumed it was a nickname someone had come up with for you! --Demiurge1000 (talk) 23:28, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

He's this guy who walks up and down Sutton High Street in a wizard costume; he's a real celebrity around this area. I thought you might have heard of him since he appeared in the Croydon Guardian. I've dumped the urls at User:Launchballer/sandbox, but I'll need to format them  Done.--Launchballer 07:22, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

• I must admit when I first saw the title, I thought it might be sarcastic article about me. Again, I have never seen the guy but then I don't go into Croydon or Sutton very much at the times when he is likely to be around. (But the way these things work, that probably means that I will see him the very next time I am there!) Sorry, nice set of refs but I think the conclusion will be that he is world famous in Poland Sutton and Croydon. Don't waste too much time on it - add some text and submit via AfC. That means it will be visible here for at least a year and someone from a distant country (eg. Summerston or Govan) may pick it up and confirm the guy's notability. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:55, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Harold C. Edwards

Hi, If it's not a copyright violation, can you undelete the backhistory of Harold C. Edwards please? The subject is pretty clearly notable, and possibly should never have been subjected to admin roulette in the first place. Barney the barney barney (talk) 10:43, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

• Done. I must say the latest version is not much better for asserting notability. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:47, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure what the problem with this is. He was made a CBE (CBE is normally considered a significant award), he's also in the National Portrait Gallery (the NPG only hold portraits of notable people). He's in who's Who (Who's Who only include notable individuals), he was also editor of Gut and meets WP:PROF. I fail to see how 4 times over was deleted for "lack of notability". Barney the barney barney (talk) 18:08, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

• Slight inversion: usually we delete because an article asserts notability but does not provide refs. I this case the refs were OK but the text was distinctly short on assertion of notability, eg. if he is a CBE we need to be told what he did to get it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:20, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

IP address

If I create accounts, do administrators know my IP address? How to know my IP address if I create accounts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fceefyahoo.ca (talk • contribs) 22:58, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

• Creating multiple accounts is very strongly deprecated. You already have one account therefore you should not be creating any more. If you always edit in a logged in state your IP address will only be invisible to a very select group of people - those with CheckUser rights. And even they are told only to use the right to protect Wikipedia against disruption, abuse, or vandalism. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:20, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Martin Port

Please could you undelete/userfy the deleted page Martin Port. We would like to review the talk page and article to identify what the inconsistencies/lack of references were so that this article can be re-added. Many Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asleeds (talk • contribs) 00:26, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

• Just as in last December, I am puzzled as to why you are talking to me. Please explain what connection you have with theredrocket (talk · contribs). Please see my comment against the RefUnd request. I cannot see the reason for the falsification allegations but certainly the article stood no chance of survival with the refs that it had. Text e-mailed to you. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:20, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Macau

Hello, I saw that you delete the article Macau New Technologies Incubator Centre under G12. The image and website are owned by us would like to donate the materials. Could you please let me to re-create the page. Thank you. Frankietou (talk) 03:11, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

• Please read this. Do you seriously think that an article containing "we are determined" and "we seek to establish" is going to stand any chance of survival? Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks your company is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:20, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your information and reply. Can I ask how long should I wait for the result? I can modify the previous content to avoid COI if necessary. Thank you. Frankietou (talk) 09:06, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

• You should wait indefinitely. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:08, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Dolphin Embassy

Dear RHaworth, today I've made an article about the Dolphin Embassy (sorry, I don't know how to put the link to the delited article), few hours ago I've got the message about the "speedy deliting" baner, after I've rote my cases in the Contested deletion and at the end (since less then 2 hours, I guess) I found that the article is already deleted (surely by you : ) - how it's possible? Why you didn't give me any aportunity?? and who with I have to "contest" now about the flash-like delited article? ). Regards Soderjanie Pustoti (talk) 22:33, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

• But you have been given an opportunity - at AfC - which is more than you deserve because you probably have a serious COI. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:59, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Dear RHaworth, I'm talking about ability to take part into contested deletion but not about AfC - by the way, I create this article accidentally (I was sure that I'm on the main Wiki "Creating" field - so, it's really my mistake (incidentally - how to delete it? ; )). You also suppose, that my article is "probably have a serious COI" - but (between us) you didn't even have a look on it before deleting. — Soderjanie Pustoti (talk) 15:55, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

• The point I am making is that there is no deletion to contest (yet). Here is your article at AfC. The text is identical to that which you posted in mainspace. Don't be impatient - wait until an AfC reviewer looks at it. If it is accepted, then it will get moved to mainspace. "Probably have a serious COI" is not a reference to the article - it is a reference to you. What is your connection with the Dolphin Embassy? And how do you know I did not look at the article? I did look and fully agreed with Barney the barney barney (talk · contribs) that it is spam. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:40, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

You might want to look at 30th parallel (phenomenon) as well, which is a WP:COATRACK for the above, and is extremely bizarre. Barney the barney barney (talk) 18:43, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

• I saw your comment to Barek: "the only solution to create the Dolphin Embassy article for me now is to wait for the decision in the Articles for creation field?" I will offer you a choice of C or D - AfC or AfD. That is: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Dolphin Embassy can be left where it is which virtually guarantees that it will remain there for at least a year or it can be moved to Dolphin Embassy and discussed at AfD which probably means that it will be deleted within a fortnight. The choice is yours, please let me know. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:59, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

C is surely better )) Thank you! Also, please, have a look to the 30th parallel (phenomenon) - I deleted "The expedition" section and so on. — Soderjanie Pustoti (talk) 13:09, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

• I looked. So what? Do you seriously think your deletion makes the article any more acceptable? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:55, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Almond cookie v. Chinese Almond biscuit

Did you actually look at the articles in question before speedily deleted? This is the second time this has happened to me so I'm a little annoyed.

First of all, if an article covers the same subject why not merge it or at least redirect it? No need to speedily delete and lose the history. And in this case, the article on a Almond cookie is ab out a Chinese biscuit/ cookie and is not the same as the article I created on almond cookies. Please restore the article history I was working on.

And while you're at it if you could restore the history beneath the parillada redirect i would appreciate that also. I'm not sure it's not a distinct topic and at the very least the history should exist so it can be split back out if need be without having to start over from scratch. Thank you. Enjoy your Friday and weekend. Candleabracadabra (talk) 20:34, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

• Both histories restored. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:55, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I apologize for being a bit curt. It's been a long day. Take care. Candleabracadabra (talk) 22:59, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Unprotect request

Please unprotect Tonight We Raid Calais‎ (you protected it) in order to address this strangely implemented page move request and perform the requested page move, which looks reasonable to me. Staszek Lem (talk) 22:11, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

• Done. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:53, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Kim Bok Man deletion

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Bok Man Kim is listed as deleted because it violated copyrights. When the article was first created, I was using Wiki as a place to draft the article, and that first save did indeed contain text copied from another page. However, the page submitted did not contain any copied and pasted text; I wholly wrote it, and it contained references, etc for documentation. So I'm confused about the problem. Please re-instate the article so that I may edit it as necessary, and please advise. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mike.e.swope (talk • contribs) 15:44, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

• Restored. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:31, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Data Control & Systems

Please may you send me the entire page of Data Control & Systems as it was prior to deletion. I spent the whole night writing that and when I woke up 4 hours later it was gone. It was an article "under construction" and totally incomplete. Is this normally the policy of Wikimediaists to erase without a chance of talk on articles being written but not completed? I did not even have time to put in the formatting, cites or sources before the whole thing was removed. In my opinion it was unfair, but at least send me a copy and I won't bother posting it again. -- Ashattock (talk) 04:46, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

• All edits restored. An article that has survived for more than seven years deserves better than speedy deletion. Even in the state I have left it the article is a bit too long, containing unencyclopedic detail. Do your additions actually add anything useful? The most desperate need is for multiple independent references. If these are not provided asap, I am likely to nominate the article for deletion. If you must add text, some other hints are: section headings are a good idea. I am dubious whether the staff (especially Adam Shattock!) are notable enough to justify their own articles so we do not link to them. As a general rule when we mention a linkable subject, we link the first time - we do not link every time we use the term.

I strongly recommend that put your text on your own web site or blog. Eg. the "electronic cup-holder" story is good but does not belong here. A link from Wikipedia to your website would probably stick - but would not constitute evidence of notability. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 08:32, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Pointless

sir the page what was created yesterday has been deleted. Please manage it again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.181.45.208 (talk) 08:23, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Soul Signs

Hallo, why did you delete Soul Signs? It's a very very notable book, written by a bestselling author and internationally known spiritual healer, featured on Oprah, Larry King Live, Vanity Fair, People, The New York Times, published by Rodale, translated in numerous languages, and reviewed by The New York Times. Kenneth C. Davis, author of Don't Know Much About History, commented that “Rosemary Altea once again provides miraculous proof of the unseen world of spirit that surrounds us all?.

This book is also previewed by book.google: look here ! And there is voice also in italian language, and on esopedia.it , and on Facebook.

Please, stop deleting Soul Signs any more from Wikipedia, thanks. -- Ballanti (talk) 13:32, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

References

• This user has repeatedly created this page, after deletions. Please consider reporting them. The inability to understand WP:Notability is no longer plausible. No WP:RS or any sort of interest other than by this user seems to appear anywhere. I certainly understand having patience and working to help users understand WP but I am led to believe that this user is knowing advertising a product they have a relation to (thus also WP:COI). — MrBill3 (talk) 20:48, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

• Please stop adding Soul Signs or Soul Signs or Soul Signs any more to Wikipedia. Your latest submission contains less evidence of notability than that deleted by this AfD discussion. The only way I might just possibly consider its addition would be if you managed to find a "sponsor". — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:53, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

SDP Montenegro

I posted Forum mladih Socijaldemokratske partije Crne Gore in wiki, but after two day's you delete my page. I will describe to you few thing's about this article. This is young political organisation in Montenegro, and we represent Social Democratic Party of Montenegro. In our article, which is in Serbo/Montenegrian language, we speak about our activities and our partnerships. Please, give me back this page. I must put some other things in it. Regards from Montenegro. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Forummladihsdpcg (talk • contribs) 09:03, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

• Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks your forum is notable and writes about it here. Also note that this is the English Wikipedia. Articles in Srpski go in sh:. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:23, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Deleting my article

Why did you delete my article. Eldakin569 (talk) 12:57, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

• Did it cross your mind that it might be courtesy to give me a link to your article? Since it was not promotional, I have decided to allow you an AfD discussion. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:03, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Empty administrative category

Why did you delete this category Category:Category:Wikipedia articles incorporating a citation from the Encyclopedia Americana with no wstitle or title parameter without altering the template that generates entries in it or talking to me if you did not understand what generated entries?

I am not in he habit of creating categories without a reason, and by deleting a hidden administrative category without altering the template that populates the category you run the risk that in future a red administrative category will pollute article space. -- PBS (talk) 16:53, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

• What's with this weird category:category: namespace? There is plenty of precedent for deleting empty cleanup categories - for example look how many times Category:Unreferenced BLPs from April 2011 has been deleted and re-created. But if you recreate your pet category on a sensible title and put {{empty category}} at the top of it, I promise not to delete it again. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:24, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Black Women Playwrights' Group

Hello RHaworth, My article for Black Women Playwrights' Group was recently deleted on May 16th. You assumed that the BWPG logo was copyright material, which it is not. Is there a way to retrieve the article, delete the image, and move forward to approval? It took a great deal of time to format the article and I am hoping not to start the process over again completely. Thank you for your concerns. Sincerely, StarRoot19 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Starroot19 (talk • contribs) 21:48, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

• I am willing to e-mail you your text. Please read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:56, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Aegis Limited (BPO)

Hi Roger, Hope all is well with you. A few months ago my company put up a wiki page Aegis Limited (BPO) and it looks like the page was deleted due to "unambiguous advertising." Not sure what that means, but would you please provide some guidelines for what to do right? Also, do you still have the content and can it be sent to me? Thanks! Kevin Nolan | Head of Marketing (Americas) | Aegis Communications Group 8201 Ridgepoint Drive • Irving, TX 75063 T: 972 868 0227 | M: 214 505 9732 E: kevin.nolan@aegisglobal.com | W: www.aegisglobal.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.218.112.1 (talk) 18:17, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

• I was tempted to ignore you since you could even be bothered to sign in as K.nolan4 (talk · contribs). Which of the words "unambiguous" and "advertising" don't you understand? Text e-mailed but kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks your company is notable. It might be worth your while contacting Iamtheyeishow (talk · contribs) who created the article and, to judge from their contribs history, may not have a serious COI. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:05, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Please delete User:Ajsmith141

Please delete User:Ajsmith141, and I think the user is useless. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 183.171.177.112 (talk) 12:09, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of James Hill (ukulele player)

I'm sorry that you have never heard of, or had the opportunity to hear, James Hill (ukulele player). See James Hill Music. In addition to be acknowledged as one of the best ukulele musicians in the world, he is co-author of the music program used in most Canadian Schools. Please provide the deleted text so that I can recreate the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aggie80 (talk • contribs) 16:19, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

• Sorry can't help you! For complete openness, I have moved all the edits of James Hill (ukulele player) under your AfC page which is now at Wikipedia:Articles for creation/James Hill (ukulele player). — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:32, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Why did you delete my wiki page?

I was testing wikipedia out. You deleted my test page. I am still wondering why? It was a page about myself, not about anybody else. It had nothing on it but my name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeekiTown (talk • contribs) 01:25, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

• Your test page should be User:GeekiTown/sandbox. You are allowed to write a few words about yourself. They should be at User:GeekiTown. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:39, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Cheers

Thank you, RHaworth, for attending to this. The same material was previously deleted as an attack page at this MfD months ago. Could you possibly look at this user also who seems engaged in a similar act of impersonation? The user name mirrors my own user name; this circumstance is made clearer by the same user’s “creation” of this article, one that I wrote but one that consensus at this AfD determined should be merged elsewhere due to the subject’s lack of notability. This “new” article simply resurrects—verbatim, I believe—the earlier article that did not survive the AfD. — Tristan noir (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:06, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

• Quite a witty mirroring. Now blocked. Let me know if they pop up again. (Hint: a red-linked user page always screams "newbie". Please put something in User:Tristan noir if only "I am a male living in England".) — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:39, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Yes, a witty mirror, indeed. I’ve followed your advice and written a simple description on my user page. Meanwhile, given the similar content and modus operandi, it appears that this user and perhaps this user as well may be other puppets associated with the two previously blocked.Tristan noir (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:20, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

• They do look like socks but they do not seem to have done any objectionable edits so blocks are not yet appropriate. If the situation changes, let me know. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:01, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Thanks. Will do.Tristan noir (talk)

Prots

Hi. This and this are both odd pages, but what is even more odd is that you protected them. I'm not sure that's the proper response. Maybe you'd like to take them to a deletion venue instead? In any case, the author is posting edit request notices on the respective talk pages. It would be nice if you cleaned up a bit here. Cheers, Killiondude (talk) 06:12, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

• I think my replies on two sandbox talk pages and one user talk page cover the matter adequately. MFD would be a bit cruel - these are good faith edits. Once we can ram into the heads of these two guys that that they are in the wrong wiki and they re-post in the right place, I will be willing to delete the sandboxes here without further sanction. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:39, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Help needed in the plasma universe

IRWolfie- has deleted the page plasma universe by redirecting it without warning or discussion [1]. Whatever his reasons that is clearly wrong. His stated reason is that it is a redundant disambiguation page. It isn't a disambiguation page (and it doesn't have the disambiguation header), although it started out with two editors (one was me) trying to make sense of the way the term has been used, it was explicitly changed by you a long time ago to not be a disambiguation page [2] (BTW that was against what I'd done, but I thought it was a good call). Anyway, I reverted IRWolfie-'s deletion and was trying to write something much like I am writing now on the talk page when he deleted the page again, so I now have no page on which to explain why I don't think the page should be deleted. IRWolfie- is a very experienced editor (we have clashed in the past so I can vouch for that) but I think this behaviour is way out of line. Have you any recommendation as to what I should do next? Aarghdvaark (talk) 15:02, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

p.s. because he is redirecting the page the timeline is lost. This is his second deletion [3] which he calls a "minor" change. I think I gave him more than fair warning in my comment on my revert that what he was doing was unacceptable, Aarghdvaark (talk) 15:14, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

• I tend to agree with IRWolfie- (talk · contribs). The page was an uncomfortable hybrid of disambig. page and article. And where is the timeline that you mention? Since redirects are not supposed to have discussion pages, if you really think there should be a separate article, I suggest you seek consensus in talk:plasma cosmology. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:13, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

OK I can live with discussion about AfD. What I think is unacceptable is unilateral deletion, which is effectively what a redirect is. As an article it had a timeline. As a redirect it hasn't. That's why I say the timeline is lost. Aarghdvaark (talk) 23:40, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

• This is what I call a timeline. What do you mean by the term? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:37, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

No to Compulsory Military Service movement

Dear RHaworth, You sent me two messages about you want to delete No to Compulsory Military Service movement, I would like to know why you want to delete my page?, it's a real things and I tired to write all this information.. Please, just tell me why?Naderwagdy1 (talk) 1:40, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

• Always log in before editing Wikipedia. I assume these edits are yours. I think the refs do now establish notability but I suggest you add a brief note to the AfD discussion pointing out that you have added refs. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:37, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

James Hill (ukulele player)

Dear RHaworth, It was trivially easy to find reviews and other info for this article: Wikipedia:Articles for creation/James Hill (ukulele player). He's been written about all over the world. I've added half a dozen. Let me know if you still require more. —Anne Delong (talk) 10:54, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

• I do not get involved with decisions at AfC but the current set of refs is probably sufficient. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:37, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Hertfordshire Health and Wellbeing

Hi, I am wondering why Hertfordshire Health and Wellbeing was deleted. I was in the midst of editing it, and adding more content. I wanted it to be a starting page for other health and wellbeing topics that affect this county and where people could explain the services they get. For example someone with a disease or illness getting services from the NHS or organization for their needs (Autism, Ageing etc). Also a place where relevant data and information about each topic could be displayed. Please tell me the best way I can do this. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hertswell (talk • contribs) 16:12, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

• Captain Conundrum has already replied. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:34, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

3.2.1

My 3.2.1 article was deleted due to A7: Article about a band, singer, musician, or musical ensemble, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject. But the thing is 3.2.1 and their hit, "Splash Out" has become a phenomenal big hit in Thailand right now and it has started to get overseas interests as it reached Top 10 iTunes single in Malaysia, Top 40 iTunes single in Taiwan, and Top 100 iTunes in Singapore. MTV Taiwan is using the song on their show now -> hear youtube. That was why I thought the english details about the group, 3.2.1, should be available so I started writing their English wiki page. Anyway, if you don't think it's significant, could you please give me the text of my written page so I can use it somewhere else. Unfortunately, I didn't save it on my computer. Thank you in advance. Kmwolm (talk) 16:23, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

• I am happy to let you see the text - read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:34, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

My email address has been set. Thank you for the text. Kmwolm (talk) 17:29, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

List of pundits

Hello. You nominated this article for deletion back in 2009; the AFD was closed as keep. You may be interested to know I have renominated the article for deletion. Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of pundits (2nd nomination). Robofish (talk) 21:30, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Dragonball Z Power Levels

User:Dragonball Z Power Levels. Hey why you have Delete the Page, I was using it!!!!! BudokaiGamer143 (talk) 11:54, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

• Hey, why you use ridiculous WikiLove message? As a user page it was blatant freeloading. If it had been moved to mainspace it would have been deleted as hopeless gamecruft. You will find it at wikia:dragonball:Dragonball Z power levels - enjoy. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:11, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

The DBZWiki Site is bullshit with his Power Levels. So can you maybe say me how i find a Kopy of the Site User:Dragonball Z Power Levels, really i need it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BudokaiGamer143 (talk • contribs) 18:06, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

• For goodness sake, read my message. I have copy&pasted the page to Dragonball Z power levels on Wikia. OK, so it was promptly redirected but you can still see the Wikipedia version via the edit history. If you think the target of the redirect is shit, don't moan at me, take the matter up with Jeangabin666 who created the redirect. Do you understand? Please reply. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:30, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Ok thank you, i am not a Wikipedia pro, (i have my account since yesterday). But thanks for your help & support. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BudokaiGamer143 (talk • contribs) 18:43, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

• I agree with BudokaiGamer you should Ask us if the page should be deleted and as owner of the page, I see no sense in deleting it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheSifisoNader (talk • contribs)

• Please learn the basics of user talk pages. You do not add an unsigned comment in the middle of someone else's message. Please also learn about page ownership. The extent to which you "own" you own user page is limited and you cannot be said to own another user's page at all. I can only repeat that it was a blatant case of using Wikipedia as a free host and thoroughly deserved to be deleted. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:49, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

You may have won the battle (Wikipedia) but you haven't won the war (Wikia)..... — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheSifisoNader (talk • contribs) 18:52, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Dolphin Embassy

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Dolphin Embassy has been declined. Because you applied the submit tag, you get notified even though you did not write the article. [condensed version of message by TheOneSean ^{[ U | T | C ]} 03:00, 29 May 2013 (UTC)]

Ninetology Palette

Hi RHaworth, the article I had written about Ninetology Palette on the 28th of May was deleted due to G11. The style and tone I had written the article in and the lack of references was probably the main cause of this. Would it be possible to email me a copy of my written article so I may revise it accordingly before resubmitting it to AfC for review to recreate the page? Thank you. Zstan9 (talk) 03:36, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

• E-mailed. An article totally lacking independent references stands about zero chance of survival. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:25, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Cheers, Thanks alot. Zstan9 (talk) 01:32, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Hello sir. Thank you so much for the deletion of user sub page of mine. Have a good day. Regards, Raghusri (talk) 07:28, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Century Airlines pilots' strike renamed

Century Airlines pilots' strike and Century Airlines Pilots' Strike Why the change to lower case? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sunshine98103 (talk • contribs) 15:44, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

• Absolutely standard capitalisation rules. I am disgusted at the number of articles in list of strikes that have been allowed to use a capital S. It should not be taken as a precedent. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:01, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
• I am pleased to see that Tampa cigar makers' strike of 1931 has been added with proper capitalisation. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:36, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Deleted - Comprehensive Cancer Centers

Hello, I am inquiring about why my company's page was deleted? We were first moved into the "Wikipedia talk: Articles" due to our "promotional tone" and "lack of evidence." I went through our submission and added references to many news articles and publications as well as made the tone more neutral. Please let me know why the page was deleted. Thanks 67.66.44.224 (talk) 16:17, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

• Normally I refuse to talk to IP addresses especially one who cannot even link to the article about which it is talking but I will bend in this instance and say: kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks your centres are notable and writes about them. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:29, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

I created an account so you will talk to me. I have not submitted a ton of articles to Wiki, but in my experience it has been difficult to get things approved. I was not trying to be rude, I was just trying to reach out to someone for help. I was genuinely trying to fix the page so the content will be of Wiki standards. Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Comprehensive Cancer Centers of Nevada. However, sorry for any inconvenience I caused you. SScott437 (talk) 16:38, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

• No inconvenience caused, I can assure you. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:19, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

DIY Road Cases

Hello Roger, I am looking to gain some advice with regard to possibly preparing a new article regarding the recently deleted DIY Road Cases article. I have re-read my saved file several times to determine what parts lend themselves to "the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person . . ." I thought that my article was as objective and factual as possible, but now that I have scrutinized it to no end, I feel that I can edit it to a more acceptable re-write, as DIY Road Cases is definitely a bona fide product/concept. Maybe you could provide me with a little clarification to help me as I consider the re-write. For example, when I read an article such as P90X, to me it looks like a full-blown on-page infomercial, yet it exists on Wikipedia, seemingly in line with the above-quoted reasoning for speedy deletion, so that confuses me a little bit. Now, on the other end of the spectrum from that, the product Little Giant Ladder System is actually contained on the Wing Enterprises article, which seems to be a brief, straightforward, article. Can you recommend a happy medium between the two versions, or a better way, that I could execute a re-write that would prevent a deletion? Also, would I encounter an issue in re-creating an article under the name DIY Road Cases, and if so, should I maybe create an entry in the fashion of the above mentioned Little Giant Ladder System - Wing Enterprises article? Thank you - John - Manicrino (talk) 16:44, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

• Can I take it that Larry Cox is a client of yours? Please read my remarks re COI in the immediately previous message thread. If you really think this product is notable, raise the matter at deletion review. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:19, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

CSD'd article

Hello there! (Nice beard by the way!) Could you provide Seraphina22 (talk · contribs) with this deleted article so they can have another go at it? It was requested on my talk page. Much obliged, FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 20:31, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

• Hi, you said to let you know when I had an email address attached to my account in order to be able to send me the deleted text of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/The Cavaliers Series. I have now added an email address. I would be great if you could send it to me and any further thoughts on where the copyright issue is and/or notability would also be appreciated. Many thanks, Seraphina Seraphina22 (talk) 22:30, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Text e-mailed. I suggest you search this page for "COI". I suspect my remarks in each case also apply to you. Copyright is irrelevant - that could be fixed by you applying a CC licence to your web page. Notability is the problem. Even the student newspaper dismisses it as "humorous light reading that pokes a bit of fun at Oxford students". Have any nationals bothered to review it? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:24, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
    • Many thanks for sending that over, much appreciated. Seraphina22 (talk) 07:56, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Revival of Template:Fake redirect

You have deleted {{Fake redirect}}. I'm going to revive that, since it DOESN'T meet requirement G2. I'm using it to install on Help:Wiki markup later. 71.145.140.37 (talk) 02:52, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Note: the deletion log for this shows nothing.--Launchballer 08:58, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

On this subject, please see Help talk:Wiki markup#Should the output of redirects be shown?. --Redrose64 (talk) 09:02, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Byway

Why have you deleted our page Buy Way Personal Finance on Wiki? It is the exact copy of our company page on de french version of Wikipedia. Online for more than one year. This page is visited every month by over 250 viewers. I don't understand this situation. Wiki is not coherent. fr:Buy Way Personal Finance. This is an arbitrary decision. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.7.19.198 (talk) 12:04, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

• Please read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:15, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Joseph Michel

Hi, I see you've actioned a G6 on Joseph Michel, presumably for 13:08, 31 May 2013‎ Taketa (talk | contribs)‎ . . (38 bytes) (+38)‎ . . (Taketa moved page Joseph Michel to Joseph Michel (musician): Disambiguation) (thank)

RHaworth (talk | contribs) deleted page Talk:Joseph Michel ‎(G6: Housekeeping and routine (non-controversial) cleanup)

Except we have no other Joseph Michel than the composer. So why move it? In ictu oculi (talk) 18:19, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

• No, I did not "execute a G6" - please talk English - on Joseph Michel. What does the deletion log state? The only thing I deleted was Talk:Joseph Michel and the only thing that that contained was #REDIRECT Talk:Joseph Michel (musician). If you have an issue about the move, I suggest you take et ta Taketa (talk · contribs). — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:04, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I believe I am speaking English. To wikt:action something means to action, implement, in this case a request, a G6 request. Anyway, can you please tell me where I will find the deletion log for the G6 on the article page? Then I don't have to ask the person actioning the G6 next time. In ictu oculi (talk) 19:33, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

• Some would say that "G6" is English - I say it is gobbledeegook. But "speedily deleted" is undeniably English and that is what I prefer to see. The Joseph Michel article has never been subject to deletion. Look at the edit history and the log. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:54, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Well, it wasn't I who left "G6" as an edit summary, it was you. If you object to your edit summary as goobledeegook and not English perhaps there is some mechanism in your tools which allows yourself to overwrite it with words of your own choice? But I can't help you with that.

Anyway the question I am asking is where I will find the deletion log for the article page, the Joseph Michel article page only shows this. No history or trace of the original content, or move, or redirect which seems to have been totally erased.

Sorry but what am I supposed to click to see the "log"? In ictu oculi (talk) 20:03, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

• It is not an edit summary, it is a deletion summary. And the G6 in it is a bit of incidental flack. The operative words in the summary are "deleted …: housekeeping and routine (non-controversial) cleanup" which are plain English. I am truly amazed: you have thousands of edits to your credit and are asking "what am I supposed to click to see the log" like a newbie. To see the edit history you clicked on view history. On that page, immediately below the article title you failed to see a link view logs for this page. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:25, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Well, you're a biter. In ictu oculi (talk) 21:01, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Dear RHaworth, I have been reading the disambiguation guidelines on the English Wikipedia and have come to the conclusion it is best to move the article Joseph Michel (musician) back to Joseph Michel, since the other topic of the same name does not have an article of its own at this juncture. I know you are an admin. Would you be able to do this for me? Sorry for the inconvenience. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 20:42, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

• Done. Let us see if that confuses In ictu oculi even more. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:52, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Exsite Webware

If you recall, you had previously deleted pages titled Exsite Webware and Exsite Webware (software). Due to academic pressures I had to defer updating the deleted page to include some notability to meet your standards. At that time, you emailed me the deleted page, but I can't find your email to me containing the deleted page. Are you able to find the page in your records and email it to me again? Unfortunately, I don't have the tools or administrative wherewithall to locate the deleted article on my own, so I will need to rely on you for assistance from time to time until this matter is sorted out. Santamoly (talk) 01:43, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

• Text e-mailed again. I hope you now accept that your claim: "free open source software does not require notability to be established" is total rubbish. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:26, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

File:Craig Keeland profile photo.jpg

Why was this deleted? If it has the wrong orientation, the usual way to rotate it is to move it to Commons and then add {{rotate|90}} or {{rotate|270}} for automatic rotation by bot on Commons. --Stefan2 (talk) 08:57, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

• 65.94.76.126 (talk) had applied an {{holdon}} tag to the article which had put it into CAT:CSD. Looking at it, I decided that it might as well be zapped. But why are you even bothering to write to me? Go and rotate it yourself on your machine and then upload it to Commons - ensuring that you repeat the OTRS info. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:55, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Thank you for correcting the mistake on my adoption answers. – Blue☆Stars83 22:37, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Lisa Lavie

Hello Mr. Haworth. I see that you have speedy-deleted the June 2 Lisa Lavie article that I posted, based on G4, "Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion." However, G4 "excludes pages that are not substantially identical to the deleted version" and my June 2 submission was more concise, about a fourth as long, and more consistently well-referenced than the 2009-2013 article that was deleted on April 1. Because of the differences between the two versions, deletion review also doesn't seem appropriate. So I need your advice on how to get the new article fair consideration: my notability arguments are here: "Establishing notability...". Can you reconsider your speedy deletion or give some practical advice? Thanks. RCraig09 (talk) 23:05, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

• Deletion review seems completely appropriate. I have restored your last version. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:28, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Thanks, I found the previous version in the revision history. I'll look into the deletion review process. RCraig09 (talk) 02:29, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Supplemental: preliminary to considering DRV, I consulted with the 1 April closing admin Spinningspark, who indicated (here) that if the new article that you speedy-deleted on 2 June is substantially different from the deleted original, I should take up the matter with you. In fact they are very different (new 16KB vs original 65KB plus other differences listed at "Changes" here). Question: There is an ambiguity in your above comment, which of the 1 April deletion or the 2 June speedy deletion you implied I should take to to DRV. If you meant the 2 June (improved) version, then can you simply reverse your own speedy delete decision? Please clarify and advise. Thanks. RCraig09 (talk) 03:38, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Saga Communications

I am not particularly sure why an article about an American radio and television corporation fell under "Article about a company, corporation or organization, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject", but I do believe that to be a very incorrect statement. From the last I saw, the article looked fine. Granted this was about 2 weeks ago, so things could have changed. I would ask the article be undeleted and taken to AfD for proper consensus or moved to my userspace (User:Neutralhomer/SagaCommunications is fine) so that I may work on it. But I highly certain the article didn't fall under A7. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 00:09, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

• The amazing thing is why the article has stayed so stubby for so long. I looked for comparisons and found Global Group. Have Saga never been involved in any controversies or other newsworthy activities. Userfied. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 08:58, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Saga is one of the very few radio station companies in the US that buy stations, make them sound awesome and keep ahold of them for years. They don't make many "waves" either, don't do anything controversial. The only thing remotely newsworthy is when one of their DJs said Mount Trashmore Park, a park made out of a converted landfill in Virginia Beach, Virginia, was going to explode from the methane in the trash. This was said, on the air, on April Fool's Day in 1992. The DJs were suspended for two days. That's really it.

I will, however, work on the article and try and get it back within the GNG. Thanks for moving it to my userspace. Take Care...Neutralhomer • Talk • 19:05, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Accounts

why you delete my accounts bloggingautoblogspot (talk · contribs)? i'm not SPAM accounts... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.254.5.36 (talk) 07:05, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

• Please do not talk nonsense - Wikipedia accounts cannot be deleted. I had a good laugh at your web page - Afghanistan is apparently a country full of bright, whimsical and octagonal people! But seriously, which of the words in the {{spamusername}} box on your user talk page do you not understand? You cannot be serious - your blog consists of just one page and offers nothing over and above a normal blogspot blog. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 08:58, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

File:Judan Ali Interview Sky Sports News.JPG

This is regarding deletion/removal of: File:Judan Ali Interview Sky Sports News.JPG as copyvio of http://fridrikkjartansson.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Still-of-Judan-Ali-Interviewed-on-Sky-Sports-News.jpg. The owner of the image has completely given over his rights of the image to me. The image was provided to the website you refer to by him: http://fridrikkjartansson.com/judan-ali-as-a-coach-to-iceland He (Gavin Williamson) has since wholly parted with all rights to myself. How can I prove this so you will re-instate the image? I believe I should have placed the image under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported license? Any guidance much appreciated. — Sxu02msg (talk) 22:38, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Yunnanxane

hi RHaworth. could you check up on this potential Yunnanxane article? i'm hoping there now is enough relevant info in place to qualify for a page. thanks Jatlas (talk) 03:32, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Silver Pen Writers' Association article for creation

Hello Roger. I appreciate you reviewing my article and have a question. I noted you deleted the article that was at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Silver Pen Writers' Association for G12-Unambiguous copyright infringement. I do want to try recreating this page and am striving to meet Wikipedia's requirements. I am contacting you, as per the message "If you are recreating a page similar to the previously deleted page, or are unsure, please first contact the deleting administrator using the information provided below."

Can you tell me what part of the page violated copyright laws (I'm guessing it is the part about the business of writing and/or standard of profession conduct, but am not sure)? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Abqsue (talk) 19:25, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Undeletion request

Could you please restore the description page for File:PENGUIN LIFECYCLE H.JPG? It has been undeleted on Commons. Thank you. --Paul_012 (talk) 19:46, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Unspeedy deletion request for Accurate Technologies Inc.

I am requesting the speedy delete be removed, so I can make your requested changes. "Speedy deletion is intended to reduce the time spent on deletion discussions for pages or media with no practical chance of surviving discussion." This article does stand a chance, because:

• G11 states "Note: An article about a company or a product which describes its subject from a neutral point of view does not qualify for this criterion." This article was neutral.
  
• Stated in A7 The criterion does not apply to any article that makes any credible claim of significance or importance even if the claim is not supported by a reliable source or does not qualify on Wikipedia's notability guidelines.If the claim's credibility is unclear, you can improve the article yourself, which I was not given a chance to do so. There are sources in this article, thus a claim of importance has been made. The proper 7 day debate should have taken effect, not a speedy deletion.
  

I understand notability needs work, but there is evidence that an attempt has been made, therefor enough to qualify for debate. If the speedy delete is removed, requested improvements will be made as the 7 day debate takes place.

One other argument that was brought up was potential copy write infringement to this page: http://www.accuratetechnologies.com/content/view/199/197/lang,en/ This was proven false by doing a side to side comparison of content on website and in article. The format and the 5 terms were the only thing that had similarities, thus not a violation.

Please consider this article for reinsertion into Wiki, with promise of improvements. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rowebot86 (talk • contribs) 13:54, 7 June 2013 (UTC)