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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Unassessed vital articles in Health and Medicine

Latest comment: 5 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion
 

A tag has been placed on Category:Unassessed vital articles in Health and Medicine indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz Read! Talk! 20:45, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Unassessed vital articles in Physics

Latest comment: 5 months ago2 comments2 people in discussion
 

A tag has been placed on Category:Unassessed vital articles in Physics indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz Read! Talk! 20:46, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Liz, I'm not sure these should be deleted. They have {{Possibly empty category}} now (which they didn't have before due to a template not being updated after a category rename). — Qwerfjkltalk 21:21, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Qwerfjkl (bot) – Vchimpanzee

Latest comment: 5 months ago3 comments2 people in discussion

Page: Wake_Forest_University

Diff: Special:Diff/1175846538

I don't see any problems.

— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 17:20, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Vchimpanzee, for the reference
<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20030801080345/http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite|url-status=dead|archive-date=August 1, 2003|title=Winston-Salem Journal|access-date=October 16, 2014}}</ref>

You changed the |title= to |work=, meaning it has no title. — Qwerfjkltalk 17:51, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
Okay, I see now. That was a problem with another ref that I saw and fixed but clicking on the archived link doesn't give me anything, so there's no title that can be put there.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:05, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Question from Mohnish 21yadav (12:51, 1 December 2023)

Latest comment: 5 months ago2 comments2 people in discussion

i want to know about indian history read on wikipedia --Mohnish 21yadav (talk) 12:51, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

Mohnish 21yadav, try History of India. — Qwerfjkltalk 14:21, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

Growth team newsletter #29

 

Welcome to the twenty-ninth newsletter from the Growth team! Help with translations

Community Conversations

The Growth team will host its first community conversation Monday, 4 December (19:00 - 20:30 UTC). The topic for this meeting will be Mentorship.

This first meeting language will be English, but we plan to host conversations in other languages, and about other topics. Please visit the conversation page on-wiki for the details on how to join. You can also watch the page, or suggest ideas for upcoming conversations there.

Impact Module

At the beginning of November 2023, the Growth team deployed the New Impact Module to all Wikipedias. We recently released a follow up improvement to how edit data was displayed based on editor feedback. [1]

Add a Link

We released “add a link” to 35 more Wikipedias. [2] [3]

We have a few Wikipedias remaining:

  • German and English Wikipedia will be contacted at the beginning of January 2024.
  • There are a few small wikis that will not receive the task until they have enough articles for the algorithm to work properly.

Community Configuration

Mentorship

When a mentor marked themselves as "Away", they were not getting their name assigned to new accounts when they returned. This has been fixed. [5]

We improved the message received by newcomers when their mentor quits, to reduce confusion. [6]

We worked on ensuring that all mentees are assigned to an active mentor. This required reassigning mentees with no mentors to a new mentor. We paused this as the clean-up script confused some editors. We will resume it when the identified blockers are resolved. [7]

It is now possible to create an Abuse Filter to prevent one user from signing up as a mentor. [8]

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Article approval

Latest comment: 5 months ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Hi I have attempted to create my first page Kadak Singh. Would you review it? This is a Hindi movie featuring prominent actors, directed by national award winning filmmaker. Thank you Filmy World (talk) 15:03, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

Filmyworldwiki, it looks good to me, and from a cursory glance appears to pass WP:GNG. — Qwerfjkltalk 19:17, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

The Signpost: 4 December 2023

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[Wikidata] Weekly Summary #605

Latest comment: 5 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion
 
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Tool of the week
    • ZotWb < export records in a Zotero group library to a custom Wikibase, prepare datasets to send to OpenRefine, feed OpenRefine reconciliaton results back to the Wikibase. Wikidata is envolved in the entity reconciliation.
      Here's a short explanation and demo video
      Tool is written and provided by David Lindermann with support from WMF Rapid Grant.

Feel free to suggest next week's Showcase Item and Lexeme!

  • Development
    • Wikibase REST API:
      • We finished the endpoint for removing an Item's label in a specific language (phab:T335841) and the endpoint for modifying descriptions on a Property (phab:T342981)
      • We are working on the endpoint for adding aliases in a given language for a Property (phab:T343721) and removing a Property's label in a given language (phab:T342983)
    • Mismatch Finder: We are continuing the work on moving the tool over to the new design system Codex
    • We adjusted the styling for the values of monolingual text statements to make the language easier to distinguish from the value (phab:T280774)
    • mul language code: We made some final adjustments to get it ready for testing.
    • Lexemes: We are adding a license note for anon users when editing a Lexeme’s lemma, a Form or Sense (phab:T343999)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Danny Benjafield (WMDE) 16:59, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-49

Latest comment: 5 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • The spacing between paragraphs on Vector 2022 has been changed from 7px to 14px to match the size of the text. This will make it easier to distinguish paragraphs from sentences. [9]
  • The "Sort this page by default as" feature in VisualEditor is working again. You no longer need to switch to source editing to edit {{DEFAULTSORT:...}} keywords. [10]

Changes later this week

Future changes

Events

  • Registration & Scholarship applications are now open for the Wikimedia Hackathon 2024 that will take place from 3–5 May in Tallinn, Estonia. Scholarship applications are open until 5 January 2024.

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Koose Munisamy Veerappan (TV series)

Latest comment: 5 months ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Hi, I have created a page for documentary series Koose Munisamy Veerappan (TV series). Request you to have a look at it and help it get better. Filmy World (talk) 04:11, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

Filmyworldwiki, have you made sure the article meets the notability guidelines outlines at WP:TVSERIES (mostly just WP:GNG)? From a quick glance it looks good to me. — Qwerfjkltalk 19:12, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – December 2023

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2023).

  Administrator changes

 
 
  Beeblebrox → Just Step Sideways
 

  CheckUser changes

 

  Oversight changes

 

  Guideline and policy news

  Arbitration

  • Following a motion, the Extended Confirmed Restriction has been amended, removing the allowance for non-extended-confirmed editors to post constructive comments on the "Talk:" namespace. Now, non-extended-confirmed editors may use the "Talk:" namespace solely to make edit requests related to articles within the topic area, provided that their actions are not disruptive.
  • The Arbitration Committee has announced a call for Checkusers and Oversighters, stating that it will currently be accepting applications for CheckUser and/or Oversight permissions at any point in the year.
  • Eligible users are invited to vote on candidates for the Arbitration Committee until 23:59 December 11, 2023 (UTC). Candidate statements can be seen here.
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Editor experience invitation

Latest comment: 5 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Hi Qwerfjkl :) I'm looking to interview people here. Feel free to pass if you're not interested. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 20:22, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

Qwerfjkl (bot) – 96.238.18.149

Latest comment: 5 months ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Page: Jason Klein

Diff: Special:Diff/1188935452

Comment/question: 96.238.18.149 (talk) 22:19, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

96.238.18.149, you missed out a |title=. — Qwerfjkltalk 07:32, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:A-Class vital articles in Life

Latest comment: 5 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion
 

A tag has been placed on Category:A-Class vital articles in Life indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz Read! Talk! 08:13, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:FL-Class vital articles in Art

Latest comment: 5 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion
 

A tag has been placed on Category:FL-Class vital articles in Art indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz Read! Talk! 08:16, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:FL-Class vital articles in Life

Latest comment: 5 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion
 

A tag has been placed on Category:FL-Class vital articles in Life indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz Read! Talk! 08:17, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

Guild of Copy Editors December 2023 Newsletter

Latest comment: 4 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion
Guild of Copy Editors December 2023 Newsletter
 
 

Hello, and welcome to the December 2023 newsletter, a quarterly digest of Guild activities since September. Don't forget that you can unsubscribe at any time; see below.

Election news: The Guild needs coordinators! If you'd like to help out, you may nominate yourself or any suitable editor—with their permission—for the Election of Coordinators for the first half of 2024. Nominations will close at 23:59 on 15 December (UTC). Voting begins immediately after the close of nominations and closes at 23:59 on 31 December. All editors in good standing (not under current sanctions) are eligible, and self-nominations are welcome. Coordinators normally serve a six-month term that ends at 23:59 on 30 June.

Drive: Of the 69 editors who signed up for the September Backlog Elimination Drive, 40 copy-edited at least one article. Between them, they copy-edited 661,214 words in 290 articles. Barnstars awarded are listed here.

Blitz: Of the 22 editors who signed up for the October Copy Editing Blitz, 13 copy-edited at least one article. Between them, they copy-edited 109,327 words in 52 articles. Barnstars awarded are listed here.

Drive: During the November Backlog Elimination Drive, 38 of the 58 editors who signed up copy-edited at least one article. Between them, they copy-edited 458,620 words in 234 articles. Barnstars awarded are listed here.

Blitz: Our December Copy Editing Blitz will run from 10 to 16 December. Barnstars awarded will be posted here.

Progress report: As of 20:33, 10 December 2023 (UTC), GOCE copyeditors have processed 344 requests since 1 January, and the backlog stands at 2,191 articles.

Other news: Our Annual Report for 2023 is planned for release in the new year.

Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Dhtwiki, Miniapolis and Zippybonzo.

To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

Message sent by Baffle gab1978 using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:54, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Bot malfunction

Latest comment: 4 months ago4 comments2 people in discussion

Hi. The bot has sent me a wrong message (not my bad), pls try and fix. Thanks, Arminden (talk) 11:40, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Arminden, in this edit you added two references that were missing |title=, and had several other errors. — Qwerfjkltalk 13:48, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
I see, thank you. I understood the msg to mean that I had left section headings w/o title (I usually 1st set the = signs and then add the titles), and this time I hadn't :)
I have re-checked now: I had used chapter & work instead of chapter & title, the template doesn't allow it, it appeared in red, and I fixed it right away, more or less. Not to insist picking on the bot, but for instance DAB issues lead to messages to one's talk page only after a while, so not if you fix them within a certain time interval.
Thanks again, Arminden (talk) 20:01, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
Arminden, yes, the bot waits 15 minutes before notifying you. — Qwerfjkltalk 21:32, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #606

Latest comment: 4 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion
 
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Discussions
    • New requests for permissions/Bot: LccnBot (Task: Adds P244 to bibliographic entities base on library authority records.)
    • New request for comments: Duplicate References Data Model and UI < During Data Modelling Days '23, 2 proposals emerged trying to answer the question of how to handle duplicate References on Wikidata Items.
    • Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call December 12, 2023: Several members of the Chinese Culture and Heritage Wikidata group will provide an overview of the group's Wikidata projects as well as the challenges they have encountered. Agenda
    • Data-SHS Bordeaux Week: Processing and Analyzing Quantitative Data in Human and Social Sciences 2023. Dec. 11 - 15, Bordeaux, FR.
  • Tool of the week
    • QLever SPARQl Engine < If you attended Data Modeling Days '23, you may have seen an extraordinary Session given by Hannah Bast and Johannes Kalmbach showcasing the power and advantages of the QLever engine. QLever can handle queries that cause the WDQS to timeout or allowing Federated queries and Geospatial!

(QLEver has already featured in Tool of the Week but we wanted to showcase it again after experiencing it at DMD '23)

  • Development
    • Wikibase REST API: We continued work on the routes for adding aliases in a given language for a Property (phab:T343721) and removing a Property's label in a given language (phab:T342983)
    • Monolingual text values can now use many more languages than before. We’re still working on doing the same for Lexemes. (phab:T341409)


You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

Anything to add? Please share! :)


Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Danny Benjafield (WMDE) 15:40, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

Would you consider becoming a New Page Reviewer?

Latest comment: 4 months ago3 comments2 people in discussion
 
Hi Qwerfjkl, we need experienced volunteers.
  • New Page Patrol is currently struggling to keep up with the influx of new articles. We could use a few extra hands on deck if you think you can help.
  • Reviewing/patrolling a page doesn't take much time but it requires a good understanding of Wikipedia policies and guidelines; Wikipedia needs experienced users to perform this task and there are precious few with the appropriate skills. Even a couple reviews a day can make a huge difference.
  • Kindly read the tutorial before making your decision (if it looks daunting, don't worry, it basically boils down to checking CSD, notability, and title). If this looks like something that you can do, please consider joining us.
  • If you would like to join the project and help out, please see the granting conditions. You can apply for the user-right HERE.
  • If you have questions, please feel free to drop a message on my talk page or at the reviewer's discussion board.
  • Cheers, and hope to see you around — ❯❯❯ Raydann(Talk) 17:03, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
Raydann, I've been a reviewer before (I even helped out in the latest backlog drive). I had the right removed because I wanted to work in other areas. Sorry. — Qwerfjkltalk 17:25, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
No worries! I certainly wasn't aware of that, thank you for letting me know. Have a good day/night. ❯❯❯ Raydann(Talk) 17:41, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

Qwerfjkl (bot) – Jenhawk777

Latest comment: 4 months ago11 comments2 people in discussion

Page: History of Christianity

Diff: Special:Diff/1188646613

Comment/question: The article had no title. It is a book review. So I gave it the title of "Untitled book review" so it is not a bare url. That was done before your bot showed up. Therefore, I don't see how this can be correct.

Jenhawk777 (talk) 07:57, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

Jenhawk777, really? When i got to the DOI link (https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/10.2307/3040773) it seems to have a title. — Qwerfjkltalk 10:02, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
That's the title of the book being reviewed not the article. Jenhawk777 (talk) 16:08, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
Jenhawk777, something like "Review of Authority and the Sacred: Aspects of the Christianisation of the Roman World."? — Qwerfjkltalk 16:11, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
Yep, but that's exactly what I already did. The reference reads: " cite journal|last=Rosser|first=John|title= Untitled Book Review of Authority and the Sacred: Aspects of the Christianisation of the Roman World by Peter Brown|journal=Speculum| volume= 72|issue=3|year=1997| pages=793–95|url= https://doi.org/10.2307/3040773 Jenhawk777 (talk) 16:17, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
Jenhawk777, yes, that is fine. The error is fixed. — Qwerfjkltalk 16:28, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
Okay, what did you change? The ref looks exactly the same to me. Jenhawk777 (talk) 17:11, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
Jenhawk777, when you added the title you fixed the error. — Qwerfjkltalk 17:23, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
But that was done 5 days ago - before the bot said there was a problem. Here is the diff: [14]. What do you suppose happened? Is it because it's not a real title? Jenhawk777 (talk) 17:44, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
Jenhawk777, strange. I have only encountered this bug once before, and it's very hard to reproduce. I think you can safely ignore the message. — Qwerfjkltalk 17:46, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
That's kind of what I was already doing.   I was just letting you know because the message asked. Good luck on figuring it out! Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:03, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-50

Latest comment: 4 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • On Wikimedia Commons, there are some minor user-interface improvements for the "choosing own vs not own work" step in the UploadWizard. This is part of the Structured Content team's project of improving UploadWizard on Commons. [15][16]

Problems

  • There was a problem showing the Newcomer homepage feature with the "impact module" and their page-view graphs, for a few days in early December. This has now been fixed. [17][18]

Changes later this week

  •   The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 December. It will be on all wikis from 14 December (calendar). [19][20]

Future changes

  •   The 2023 Developer Satisfaction Survey is seeking the opinions of the Wikimedia developer community. Please take the survey if you have any role in developing software for the Wikimedia ecosystem. The survey is open until 5 January 2024, and has an associated privacy statement.

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Question from Command and Control (23:30, 11 December 2023)

Latest comment: 4 months ago5 comments2 people in discussion

Hello, if an article is constantly edited by a same person in bad faith and an act of vandalism how do I proceed? --Command and Control (talk) 23:30, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

Command and Control, if you're referring to edit warring then you could take it to the Edit warring noticeboard. Please not that vandalism has a very specific meaning on Wikipedia - do not use it to describe edits you simply disagree with. — Qwerfjkltalk 09:08, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
No, I was referring to editing of the article by the user who changes his/hers name and edits this article in bad faith every few month. Command and Control (talk) 09:29, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
The latest edit happened on 9th of December and again this user erased few parts of the articles especially related to the Jewish activities of the subject of the article, which one would consider bad faith and vandalism aka racism. Command and Control (talk) 09:32, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
Command and Control, I cannot comment on their edits without knowing any more context. What article are you referring to? — Qwerfjkltalk 09:44, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Question from Eatmymvsic (11:03, 12 December 2023)

Latest comment: 4 months ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Hi I’m trying to creat a page for frank alvarez he is a podcaster. how can I do that? --Eatmymvsic (talk) 11:03, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Eatmymvsic, Welcome! Creating a new article from scratch is extremely challenging, and new editors are strongly recommended to spend a few months learning how Wikipedia works, by making improvements to some of our existing six million articles before trying it. When you do decide to have a go at a new article, you are highly encouraged to read WP:Your first article. If you haven't already also check out WP:TUTORIAL; it's a lot of fun! Happy editing! — Qwerfjkltalk 11:59, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Question from MrBeanButSexier (11:05, 12 December 2023)

Latest comment: 4 months ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Hello! I was wondering if I could get some advice on how to make a new article on Wiki? --MrBeanButSexier (talk) 11:05, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

MrBeanButSexier, Welcome! Creating a new article from scratch is extremely challenging, and new editors are strongly recommended to spend a few months learning how Wikipedia works, by making improvements to some of our existing six million articles before trying it. When you do decide to have a go at a new article, you are highly encouraged to read WP:Your first article. If you haven't already also check out WP:TUTORIAL; it's a lot of fun! Happy editing! — Qwerfjkltalk 12:00, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:JFL map templates by year

Latest comment: 4 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion
 

A tag has been placed on Category:JFL map templates by year indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. ✗plicit 14:47, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Question from Tate Tomkin Beddy (19:57, 12 December 2023)

Latest comment: 4 months ago2 comments2 people in discussion

How do I create an article --Tate Tomkin Beddy (talk) 19:57, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Tate Tomkin Beddy, Welcome! Creating a new article from scratch is extremely challenging, and new editors are strongly recommended to spend a few months learning how Wikipedia works, by making improvements to some of our existing six million articles before trying it. When you do decide to have a go at a new article, you are highly encouraged to read WP:Your first article. If you haven't already also check out WP:TUTORIAL; it's a lot of fun! Happy editing! — Qwerfjkltalk 20:26, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Categories: "Water monsters" to "Water cryptids"

Latest comment: 4 months ago8 comments3 people in discussion

I've noticed you've moved a lot of categories from the neutral "water monster" to the WP:PROFRINGE "water cryptid", using conspiracy theory/fringe language. Could you explain these moves? :bloodofox: (talk) 18:57, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

Bloodofox, I linked in my edit summaries to the CfD that discussed it. — Qwerfjkltalk 19:44, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
All I see is a brief exchange. This is not an improvement. Please self-revert. Anything in the "cryptid", which is a fringe term used by the cryptozoology subculture, needs to be under the neutral term monster instead. :bloodofox: (talk) 19:58, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
@Marcocapelle, what do you think we should do? — Qwerfjkltalk 20:03, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
  • I'd suggest you just reopen/relist the discussion. Technically User:Bloodofox may be referred to WP:MRV but the MRV discussion is likely to result in a relist anyway. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:12, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
    • I've done so. — Qwerfjkltalk 10:06, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
Where? :bloodofox: (talk) 19:52, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
Bloodofox, at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 December 12#Category:Fictional water monsters. I pinged you there. — Qwerfjkltalk 20:27, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Qwerfjkl (bot) – ScottDNelson

Latest comment: 4 months ago7 comments3 people in discussion

Page: Dzhokhar Tsarnaev

Diff: Special:Diff/1187873298

Comment/question: Ok I fixed the issue with the citation - now what? Will the bot update its comment on my talk page? User talk:ScottDNelson Should i 'archive' it somewhere, or delete its comment? The bot doesnt explain how to verify issue is fixed and/or what to do after

ScottDNelson (talk) 20:18, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

ScottDNelson, you can archive or delete the bot's comment as you wish. The bot does not check to see if you've fixed the issue (and I'm not sure monitoring thousands of pages to see if issues are fixed would be practical). — Qwerfjkltalk 21:17, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
Depends a little i guess if the bot is checking only for new citations that could have any issues, or monitors any updates as well to see if there's anything that looks off. If its the latter, then the technical difference to also check fixes is trivial in terms of a scaling standpoint, not sure how its coded/implement what lift that is from dev time.
Also it's a weird flow that the UX:
1) Lets someone make a citation, without marking certain fields required
2) Updates the page, then flags to user that actually it's improper
3) User attempts to fix, but there's no actual verification that it was fixed
There's some obvious potential improvements there ScottDNelson (talk) 21:30, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
ScottDNelson, I agree the task could be improved, but it would take a quite a bit of my time, and I would rather spend it elsewhere. — Qwerfjkltalk 11:38, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
ScottDNelson, I believe that the system is meeting all three of the conditions listed above. When you use Preview before publishing your edit, the Citation Style 1 templates like {{cite book}} show you a red error message when you have omitted a required parameter or made a similar error. That message is also displayed if you publish your change without fixing the problem. Each error message contains a link to help text that should be able to assist you in resolving the error. If you subsequently follow the instructions and fix the error, the error message goes away. If you think that the templates could be improved in some way, the venue to propose changes is Help talk:CS1. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:53, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
Jonesey95, I think ScottDNelson is talking about improving my bot, not the CS1 templates. — Qwerfjkltalk 16:58, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
@Qwerfjkl is correct - i was referrig to the bot not the editor (BTW - i didnt see an error in editor, its been a while so memory is hazy but not sure if because i didnt hit preview or because i was using old editor instead of visual editor) ScottDNelson (talk) 23:42, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
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