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Feedback request: Wikipedia style and naming request for comment

 

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New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022

 
 
New Page Review queue June 2022

Hello Qwerfjkl,

Backlog status

At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000[a] at the end of May.

Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.[b]

In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).

While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).

Backlog drive

A backlog reduction drive, coordinated by buidhe and Zippybonzo, will be held from July 1 to July 31. Sign up here.   Barnstars will be awarded.

TIP – New school articles

Many new articles on schools are being created by new users in developing and/or non-English-speaking countries. The authors are probably not even aware of Wikipedia's projects and policy pages. WP:WPSCH/AG has some excellent advice and resources specifically written for these users. Reviewers could consider providing such first-time article creators with a link to it while also mentioning that not all schools pass the GNG and that elementary schools are almost certainly not notable.

Misc

There is a new template available, {{NPP backlog}}, to show the current backlog. You can place it on your user or talk page as a reminder:

Very high unreviewed pages backlog: 11606 articles, as of 06:00, 9 May 2024 (UTC), according to DatBot

There has been significant discussion at WP:VPP recently on NPP-related matters (Draftification, Deletion, Notability, Verifiability, Burden). Proposals that would somewhat ease the burden on NPP aren't gaining much traction, although there are suggestions that the role of NPP be fundamentally changed to focus only on major CSD-type issues.

Reminders
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Notes
  1. ^ not including another ~6,000 redirects
  2. ^ The number of weekly reviews reported in the NPP feed includes redirects, which are not included in the backlog we primarily track.

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Feedback request: Wikipedia style and naming request for comment

 

Your feedback is requested at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Albums/Album article style advice on a "Wikipedia style and naming" request for comment. Thank you for helping out!
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Question from Shopbirdyco (18:43, 26 June 2022)

How do I create a wikipedia page? --Shopbirdyco (talk) 18:43, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

@Shopbirdyco, Welcome! Creating a new article from scratch is extremely challenging, and new editors are strongly recommended to spend a few months learning how Wikipedia works, by making improvements to some of our existing six million articles before trying it. When you do decide to have a go at a new article, you are highly encouraged to read WP:Your first article. If you haven't already also check out WP:TUTORIAL; it's a lot of fun! Happy editing!  ― Qwerfjkltalk 20:25, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

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Question from MuhanedMahmoudfaker (04:19, 27 June 2022)

مرحبا؟ اريد اضافة ويكبيديا لنفسي واريد بعض التعديلات هل يمكنك مساعدتي؟ --MuhanedMahmoudfaker (talk) 04:19, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #426

Tech News: 2022-26

20:01, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Question from MuhanedMahmoudfaker (12:43, 28 June 2022)

Hello, I have added complete, correct and reliable information, why does it not appear in the pure Google? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MuhanedMahmoudfaker --MuhanedMahmoudfaker (talk) 12:43, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Question from MuhanedMahmoudfaker on User:MuhanedMahmoudfaker (13:02, 28 June 2022)

How do I hide a username at the beginning of a page?  ? And why did the name of his representative not appear in the Google search? --MuhanedMahmoudfaker (talk) 13:02, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

@MuhanedMahmoudfaker, user pages are WP:NOINDEXed so they won't appear in search results. You may want to move the page to a draft. ― Qwerfjkltalk 16:10, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Feedback request: Wikipedia technical issues and templates request for comment

 

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Concern regarding Draft:Thibaud de Rougemont

  Hello, Qwerfjkl. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Thibaud de Rougemont, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 09:04, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Humbert de Montchal

  Hello, Qwerfjkl. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Humbert de Montchal, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 09:04, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

NPP July 2022 backlog drive is on!

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(t · c) buidhe 20:26, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

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19:30, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Category:Time 100

Hello, Qwerfjkl,

This category was tagged for speedy deletion after you closed the CFD but it is not empty and can't be deleted until the pages have been removed. I think there are tools to do this so it doesn't have to be done manually. I believe admins list these pages on a project page so a bot can take care of it. Liz Read! Talk! 02:46, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Liz, I've listed it at WT:CFDW, so any.admin can add it to WP:CFDW. ― Qwerfjkltalk 06:04, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

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Concern regarding Draft:Mohabbatain Chahatain

  Hello, Qwerfjkl. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Mohabbatain Chahatain, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 18:03, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Albums produced by Harv

 

A tag has been placed on Category:Albums produced by Harv indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. Liz Read! Talk! 23:18, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Albums produced by Post Malone

 

A tag has been placed on Category:Albums produced by Post Malone indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. Liz Read! Talk! 23:18, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Song recordings produced by Justin Bieber

 

A tag has been placed on Category:Song recordings produced by Justin Bieber indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. Liz Read! Talk! 23:20, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Song recordings produced by Post Malone

 

A tag has been placed on Category:Song recordings produced by Post Malone indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. Liz Read! Talk! 23:20, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Qwerfjkl,
I see these categories were very recently created so they are likely only temporarily empty. I still believe in posting notifications of any deletion tagging so here they are. Thanks! Liz Read! Talk! 23:22, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
Liz, I'll try to populate these categories later today, but failing that it might have to wait until Sunday, because I'm busy in real life. ― Qwerfjkltalk 06:05, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

Category:Extra-biblical references to Canaan

Hi, I noticed that you manually moved a category after Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_May_13#Category:Canaan:_Extra_Biblical_references, but to Category:Extra Biblical references to Canaan instead of Category:Extra-biblical references to Canaan. ("Extra-biblical" means outside the Bible.) I've set the bot to move it again. – Fayenatic London 09:46, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

Qwerfjkl (bot) 13

Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Qwerfjkl (bot) 13 has been approved. Happy editing! TheSandDoctor Talk 18:18, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Category:Austro-Hungarian films

Hello, Qwerfjkl,

You know I am an admirer of your work but it looks like your bot emptied this category out of process rather than through an CFD decision. Could you please not do this? Every week I warn new editors about emptying out categories on their own rather than nominating them for deletion at WP:CFD so I was surprised to see you had a bot that did this.

You link to a talk page discussion (which was helpful, thank you) where I saw the suggestion of a bot taking on this task but nothing decisive like an RFC that would authorize a bot to make widespread changes. I can see using your bot after a CFD discussion was closed, and I don't love bureaucracy for its own sake, but for something like film categories, there are other editors, like those at Wikipedia:WikiProject Film who should be included in this discussion. It's one thing to have your bot do a run and remove a category from related articles but if the content creators keep adding articles to these categories, and recreating them, it kind of defeats the purpose of eliminating the category the first time. Also, since categories deleted for being empty, CSD C1, can be recreated by anyone at any time, their deletion is not permanent like it would be if this decision came from a CFD discussion.

I know it's a lot of work to bundle a lot of categories together for a CFD nomination on a particular subject, but I think if the goal is to eliminate or reduce these "X films" categories, this is the way to do it. Thanks again for all you do on Wikipedia. Liz Read! Talk! 21:52, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

@Liz, I haven't emptied any categories intentionally. The bot takes pages that are.I'm the categories listed at User:Qwerfjkl/sandbox/24 recursively and then removes any country categories, per the discussion and the WP:BOTREQ. The bot mentions the category in the edit summary, so categories can be restored if necessary. Sorry for any trouble this has caused you! ― Qwerfjkltalk 22:41, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
Just to point out, the request was not to have the bot indiscriminately remove all "Country films" categories from every film that it touched; it was to have the bot only remove "Country films" categories from articles that were already in that same country's "country-genre films" subcategories. For example, if a film was in Category:Hungarian films, Category:Hungarian drama films and Category:Austro-Hungarian films but not in an Category:Austro-Hungarian drama films category, then the bot was supposed to remove Category:Hungarian films because the film was already in a subcategory for "Hungarian + genre", but the bot was supposed to leave Category:Austro-Hungarian films alone due to the lack of an "Austro-Hungarian + genre" subcategory ensuring that the film was still staying inside the overall Austro-Hungarian tree.
The request was not to just remove all country films categories across the board; it was to remove country films categories only where that represented duplicate categorization because the film was also in one or more of that same country's genre subcategories, while leaving country films categories alone if the film was not also in one or more of that same country's genre subcategories. The request was to remove categories that represented duplicate categorization, while not removing categories that did not represent duplicate categorization so that those could be looked at manually.
So something has gone very wrong if any categories have been left empty by this, because the request was explicitly designed to prevent that from happening. Bearcat (talk) 15:32, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
@Bearcat, I seem to have made an incorrect assumption: that pages would only be in one country film category. This problem is probably restricted to categories like Austro-Hungary where it could be in Austria or Hungary as well, so hopefully won't affect to many pages. The edits where the bot removed pages from this category can be found here. ― Qwerfjkltalk 16:01, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
It's not restricted to things like that, because international co-productions are a very, very common thing in film. I've located another example, Odessa in Flames, where the film was in Category:Italian films and Category:Romanian films, and had been subcategorized within the Italian tree but not within the Romanian tree — but the bot removed both the Italian and Romanian categories even though that pulled the film completely out of the Romanian film tree. Bearcat (talk) 16:06, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Lists of films where Qwerfjkl (bot) removed multiple categories: 2 categories (3116), 3 categories (638) 4 categories (169) 5 categories (52) 6 categories (10) 7 categories (8). Dogville uniquely had 9 categories removed (off-topic: was that film really produced by 9 different countries), and I couldn't find any where 8 or 10+ were removed. * Pppery * it has begun... 20:12, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
It would probably be easier to complete the run and then try to fix the incorrect removals. ― Qwerfjkltalk 06:06, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
@Bearcat, I've written a script and started a run on the erroneous pages (see contributions. Please ping me if there are any problems. ― Qwerfjkltalk 15:57, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
E.g. Special:Diff/1094580474/1097250367. ― Qwerfjkltalk 16:01, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for the update. Bearcat (talk) 20:19, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
@Bearcat, the task is now complete. ― Qwerfjkltalk 05:48, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2022

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