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Re: (Questions about) Disruptive editing

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Hi Quibus. I'm not sure I can efficiently answer your specific questions, as they are much the same as unanswered questions I've had in the past myself. The general rule with user-warnings (see WP:USETEMP), is that you start by issuing a level-1 template for the first instance of disruption, level-2 for the second, and so on, until you've reached the last level-number of that particular template series. If the disruptive user continues to disrupt after a final warning has been issued, the next step is to report them to WP:AIV, where an administrator will review the activity and take further action (such as a block) if necessary. WP:AIV however, requires your report to be made while the disruptive edits are still fresh, and preferably while the disruptive user is still logged into that particular editing session. This means that you've missed your opportunity to report by eight days. The only thing I can recommend in this case, is leaving a personally written message on the offending IP's talk-page... that will be seen by a patrolling admin and taken into account if that IP continues to edit disruptively in future sessions. Hope this helps address some of the concerns and questions you've asked. :)  -- WikHead (talk) 21:24, 22 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

Excellent! I'm glad I was of some help to you. I guess part of the confusion I'm often faced with, is knowing how to properly deal with disruptive editors who continue their activities after returning from a block (or multiple blocks). It just seems strange to me, to simply rehash the same generic templates from level-1 all over again. It makes me scratch my head and wonder how many times the user needs a "final warning", or how many times we need to generically say "welcome to Wikipedia, blah blah blah..." The time restrictions with WP:AIV can be a bit frustrating as well, as I often find articles abused by a user who has been given a final warning, but several days too late to report. It seems there's no specific template to address this. Bottom line however, I think it's most important that the articles get reverted and restored to clean versions as quickly as possible. Quality is number one! Compulsive disruptive users always seem to get caught red-handed in the end... it just takes a little patience sometime. ;)  -- WikHead (talk) 16:16, 23 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

Your article has been moved to AfC space

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Hi! I would like to inform you that the Articles for Creation submission which was previously located here: User:Quibus/Harold Budd discography has been moved to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Harold Budd discography, this move was made automatically and doesn't affect your article, if you have any questions please ask on my talk page! Have a nice day. ArticlesForCreationBot (talk) 22:58, 1 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Opeth Wiki

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Please do not revert that last change on Opeth's wiki change. Seriously i am getting tired of edits that i do getting reverted because YOU disagree with it. I spoke to Mikael personally from Opeth a long time ago.. and Megadeth ARE one of their influences. Sure their influence isin't as heavy as they had with bands like Death or Black Sabbath but they are an influence to them to a certain extent. So please do not revert that edit again, because the information is correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.203.16.81 (talk) 17:05, 4 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Your submission at Articles for creation

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Harold Budd discography, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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Slayer

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The IP had repaired vandalism, which you then restored. The "singing telegram" addition was a bogus edit that was added in October by Longissueee (talk · contribs) and went undetected until the IP noticed it and corrected it. You should probably remove the warning you gave them. --Bongwarrior (talk) 18:37, 20 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

My bad, I thought I dug deep enough in the article history. It looked like the telegram was the actual fact, not the pizza - although it was hard picturing Lombardo as singing telegram ;). I removed the warning from the IPs talk page and noticed you already reverted the Slayer article. Thank you for warning me. Quibus (talk) 19:15, 20 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
Thank you. I wish it were true - one of the guys from Slayer delivering singing telegrams is quite the mental image. Take care. --Bongwarrior (talk) 19:26, 20 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
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Jah Wobble

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No problem—it's an easy enough mistake to make. For that reason among others that "Rotter" fellow should have thought of another name, imo. A Happy New Year to you as well! Cheers Malljaja (talk) 23:03, 29 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

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Barnstar

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  The Original Barnstar
This barnstar is awarded to everyone who - whatever their opinion - contributed to the discussion about Wikipedia and SOPA. Thank you for being a part of the discussion. Presented by the Wikimedia Foundation.

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Re:Bon Iver

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In a template (Template:Bon Iver in this case) links will appear in blue. When you click them, the article will appear in bold letters (for example Wikipedia talk:Sandbox is now bolded as it the article the reader is at the moment. But if you add a redirect ([1] WT:SB in this case, the article will appear in blue, even if it the currect article. This create a circular and unnecessary link that cas be avoided as I did. The correct way is that WP:RM, but consider that this has been discussed before. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 20:06, 4 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Unified login

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This help request has been answered. If you need more help, please place a new {{help me}} request on this page followed by your questions, or contact the responding user(s) directly on their user talk page.

When logging into Wikipedia through unified login, I'm logged into every project except Wiktionary (and of course the three projects pending SUL-request). At first this was solved by not using the secure server (https://), but now it refuses regardless of settings. When logging into Wiktionary directly there is no problem, but then I won't be logged into any of the other projects. In both cases the icons shown suggest I should be logged into all projects. To make it even more interesting: when logging into Wiktionary (manually) after logging into Wikipedia, then logging out on Wiktionary, all of a sudden I am logged out on Wikipedia too, so for logging out it does seem to work... I haven't been able to find anything in the help sections, can someone help me out? Thank you, — Quibus (talk) 10:14, 8 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Special:CentralAuth/Quibus shows a different icon for Wiktionary. Unfortunately I don't know what the icons mean! -- John of Reading (talk) 11:41, 8 February 2012 (UTC)Reply
The icon means that the account was not automatically created but attached by using the password. Unfortunately that does not help with the problem. Since this is a fairly technical problem, I doubt the helpme-tag will attract anyone able to help with that. I suggest you ask at the technical Village Pump or the help desk instead where it might attract more views. Regards SoWhy 12:30, 8 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Resolved, — Quibus (talk) 19:19, 10 February 2012 (UTC) (link repair to archive, — Quibus (talk) 08:03, 28 February 2012 (UTC))Reply

Quiet Riot

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Thanks for that. I was actually in the midst of trying to fix it myself when I got sidetracked. The secondary source on Leon is in the body of the article, I believe. Thanks for your help. Best, A Sniper (talk) 18:24, 9 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Devin Townsend

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You sure? The Infinity booklet spells it Garret. —Gendralman (talk) 01:24, 19 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

An act of quality

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For creating the navbox for Robert Fripp.  Kiefer.Wolfowitz 22:05, 13 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

RE: WP:MOS

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There are at least two places where this is discussed: MOS:BIO and WP:LEAD, as well as the policy WP:NPOV. I'm going to explain you why the "X is an Award-winning/nominated" phrases are wrong.

  • MOS:BIO - Although many people argue that bands/groups are not biographies, bands and groups include important aspects of their members, meaning that they are biographies. For example, Destiny's Child is part of the biography of Beyoncé Knowles, Kelly Rowland and Michelle Williams; Slipknot is part of the biography of Corey Taylor, et al.; OneRepublic is part of the biography of Ryan Tedder and the other members, and many other examples. MOSBIO says: "The opening paragraph should open with: Name(s) and title(s), dates of birth and death, (in this case date of formation and splits), context, the notable actions or roles the [band] played, and why the [band] is significant."
  • NPOV - The problem with say that "The Artist™" is an award-winning person is that we immediately are saying the reader that we focus more in The Artist™'s achievements rather than other important aspects of his life. Why we choose the Academy Award or the Grammy Award than other awards? "Because the Oscar/Grammy is the most important award in the cinema/music category." That's the meaning of choosing awards as the opening sentence. Also they mean this: "Sandra Bullock (born July 26, 1964) is an Academy-Award winning actress" -> "The Academy Award for Best Actress-winner Sandra Bullock is..." the same intention with a different order.
  • MOS:LEAD - In its lead it has two important notes: 1) The lead serves as an introduction to the article and a summary of its most important aspects. (The news-journalism jargon term lede is sometimes used, but can be misleading, because Wikipedia leads are not written in news style, and journalistic ledes serve different purposes from encyclopedic leads "Paulina Rubio is a gay icon and..."[2] or "Marie Skłodowska-Curie is a two-times Nobel prize winner...". Winning an award, being an icon, or other irrelevant journalism jargon is not for Wikipedia, if those aspects are important, add them later with a neutral language. 2) It should define the topic, establish context, explain why the topic is interesting or notable, and summarize the most important points. Which lead sounds better?

Bon Iver ( /boʊn iːˈvɛər/ bone ee-VARE) is an American folk band founded in 2007 by indie folk singer-songwriter Justin Vernon. Band members include Michael Noyce, Sean Carey, and Matthew McCaughan, among others. Its name is derived from the French phrase bon hiver (French pronunciation: [bɔn‿ivɛːʁ]), meaning "good winter" or "have a good winter". Vernon released Bon Iver's debut album, For Emma, Forever Ago independently in July 2007. The album was well-received by music critics, and received moderate success in the charts. In 2009, Bon Iver released the EP Bood Bank which [did something important to their career]. In 2012, the band received national and international recognition after Bon Iver won two Grammy Awards, for Best New Artist and for Best Alternative Music Album for their self-titled album, also was nominated for two Brit Awards.

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Bon Iver ( /boʊn iːˈvɛər/ bone ee-VARE) a two-times Grammy-award winning, two-times Brit-award nominated band founded in 2007 by American indie folk singer-songwriter Justin Vernon. It includes Michael Noyce, Sean Carey, and Matthew McCaughan. Vernon released Bon Iver's debut album, For Emma, Forever Ago independently in July 2007. The majority of that album was recorded while Vernon spent three months in a remote cabin in northwestern Wisconsin. Bon Iver won the 2012 Grammy Award for Best New Artist and Grammy Award for Best Alternative Music Album for their self-titled album. The name Bon Iver is derived from the French phrase bon hiver (French pronunciation: [bɔn‿ivɛːʁ]), meaning "good winter" or "have a good winter".

Many newbies add them because "it is correct", "it is an important award", "it is part of their career" or "it is in article X, should be here too". That's are the three main reasons why those sentences should be avoided and hidden notes like "Awards don't belong here" should be written. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 21:19, 21 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

Thank you; I updated it, I forgot to do that. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 05:02, 23 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

Quiet Riot template

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Just regarding this edit, Rudy Sarzo was also a member of Ozzy's band not just Rhoads, the fact that there was 2 Quiet Riot members, I thought it warranted inclusion. Saying that, it isn't that important to include but just thought I would let you know my reason. Happy editing! HrZ (talk) 17:10, 23 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

Quiet Riot (Overlinking)

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Noticed the reverts. Thought I would mention that lists (or tables) such as band members and discographys listed at the end of an article are generally linked. As far as I am aware, it is instruments that shouldn't be linked (but don't quote me on that). Also, per WP:OVERLINKING:

Generally, a link should appear only once in an article, but if helpful for readers, links may be repeated in infoboxes, tables, image captions, footnotes, and at the first occurrence after the lead.

Hope this helps. Regards. HrZ (talk) 15:55, 18 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

No problem. It was a fairly small issue that could have easily been solved with a message. You reverted and cited a policy. It's hardly the definition of edit warring. It's safe to say that it is unlikely they checked WP:OVERLINKING, or else they would have read the above. Regards. HrZ (talk) 12:57, 20 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

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