User talk:Queenmomcat/Archive 4

Latest comment: 12 years ago by Dthomsen8 in topic ARS Source searches

Drafts edit


Wesel Rail Bridge edit

The Wesel Rail Bridge article needs a substantial amount of rewriting, and it needs correction of rotten links and more inline citations. There are associated articles, such as 371st Engineer Construction Battalion and Bombing of Wesel in World War II, and even Wesel, Germany. The book I mentioned above gave plenty of details about the German General Alfred Schlemm, who was defending Wesel but responsible for 9 Rhine bridges, including the Ludendorff Bridge at Remagen.

I am going to leave the rewriting of any or all of these articles to you. I did some updating to the 371st article a few minutes ago. There is some excellent information online, aber auf Deutsch, but I can puzzle that out with my high school German. The Rhineland book has some excellent maps at the back. I started a new section on this article for ease of communication. --DThomsen8 (talk) 14:58, 4 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for your faith in me! I'll see what I can do. In between things like work, and other RL issues, that is. Queenmomcat (talk) 17:59, 4 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
RL=Research Librarian? 3D? Actually, no hurry. --DThomsen8 (talk) 13:39, 5 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
In a manner of speaking; I'm a reference librarian at a public library. (I was actually thinking "real life", though.Queenmomcat (talk) 17:04, 5 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
3D=real life back in the Bulletin Board era of computer networking.--DThomsen8 (talk) 22:34, 5 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
....(engages brain)....duh, right: 3D=three dimensional. And someday I'll have to get over the fear that the "new messages" flag when I re-enter Wikipedia means I've done something wrong or messed with someone's precious baby project. Queenmomcat (talk) 00:50, 6 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

Oh, I have the same fear that I am about to get criticism, or someone wants to delete something I worked hard on, but often it is something interesting, or a request for help, or better yet, a barnstar that I did not expect. I was expecting the GOCE barnstar, though, and I will move it over to my user page. I saw someone else with barnstars on the user page, and I am doing likewise. (Monkey see, Monkey do...) On the other hand, an editor from a particular project sent me four times in a row within about 5 minutes, don't update the class or importance of his project templates. That was harassment, but I just let it go. Better to log off, go to bed, and decide what to do in the morning. In the morning, I decided to let it go, but when I really, really want a class or importance on that project's templates, I have a buddy on Wikipedia who is far more active than I am on that project, and I ask him, via email, to do the settings for me. --DThomsen8 (talk) 01:18, 6 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

User:Canglesea has updated Talk:Wesel Rail Bridge with some evaluations which may be of interest to you.
{{TrainsWikiProject|class=start|importance=low|unref=yes}} {{WPMILHIST|class=start| <!-- B-Class-1. It is suitably referenced, and all major points have appropriate inline citations. --> |B-Class-1=n <!-- B-Class-2. It reasonably covers the topic, and does not contain obvious omissions or inaccuracies. --> |B-Class-2=n <!-- B-Class-3. It has a defined structure, including a lead section and one or more sections of content. --> |B-Class-3=y <!-- B-Class-4. It is free from major grammatical errors. --> |B-Class-4=n <!-- B-Class-5. It contains appropriate supporting materials, such as an infobox, images, or diagrams. --> |B-Class-5=y |German-task-force= yes |US-task-force= yes |WWII-task-force= yes }}
You should try to make the three evaluations marked "n" change to "y" if you can. Plain copyediting could fix the grammatical errors, but I still think the appropriate approach is a complete rewrite. The references are a mess, and the content is inadequate. --DThomsen8 (talk) 13:02, 6 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
I got the copyedits/grammar corrections (I think!) and changed the "B class 4" to 'y'; was that correct? (so far as I know, I got all the grammar/punctuation errors.)
Grammar looks good now. References are a big problem, and content close behind. I had hoped to find more content at the FLP, no success on the first try on the specific topic of the bridge, but lots on the Rhineland campaign, including a book on the Remagen floating bridges. The Wesel Rail Bridge was different in being a fixed rail bridge, constructed very rapidly but very soundly.--DThomsen8 (talk) 17:26, 10 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

Thanks edit

…for copyediting my city.   --Eisfbnore talk 17:33, 9 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

You're welcome! It seemed a worthwhile article about an important city, and just needed a bit of polishing. Queenmomcat (talk) 17:59, 9 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

Request edit

I appreciate your work on wiki. Thanks for touching down on Petit-de-Grat, Nova Scotia‎. I have put alot of work into Father Le Loutre's War wiki page and am wondering if you might look at it to clean it up and make any suggestions for me to improve it.--Hantsheroes (talk) 07:23, 11 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

I'm flattered! I'll see what I can do...Queenmomcat (talk) 11:53, 11 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

Great copyediting. Much appreciated.--Hantsheroes (talk) 09:24, 14 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

You're welcome; glad to help. Queenmomcat (talk) 12:03, 15 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

GOCE May Drive edit

Participants are already getting their entry template in for the GoCE May Drive. I have made a list to work on when May Day arrives. Join us!--DThomsen8 (talk) 02:04, 15 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

Benjamin Franklin Bache (journalist) edit

Something is wrong with the references for Benjamin Franklin Bache (journalist). Also, there is now a very large addition, but perhaps not well worded. Please take a look for me. --DThomsen8 (talk) 00:11, 26 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

I'll see what I can do; thank you for sending a distraction my way right now Queenmomcat (talk) 14:14, 26 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
Good work so far. I provided a link for Sally Franklin. Benjamin Franklin had no legitimate children, only the loyalist son and this daughter. This article glosses over that. --DThomsen8 (talk) 14:30, 26 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
Having read the article on Deborah Read, I see what you mean...I'll see about rephrasing the article on BacheQueenmomcat (talk) 15:04, 26 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
Note the school named for Bache, mentioned on the talk page. That should be in the article. Franklin's decendants gloss over the first generation, too. See Agnes Irwin and her Main Line school. --DThomsen8 (talk) 15:16, 26 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

Copyediting High Schools edit

I am copyediting two high schools. One of them has a very brief academics description, and then many athletics subsections listing years of championships, with plenty of inline citations. I am considering chopping those lists down. I have already deleted some peacock words. As an experienced copyeditor, I value your advice. --DThomsen8 (talk) 00:01, 2 May 2011 (UTC)Reply

(bemused, flattered) I'll see what I can do; I assume they're listed in your list of contributions? Queenmomcat (talk) 00:44, 2 May 2011 (UTC)Reply
Of course they are in my list of GoCE drive working articles, as well as contributions. --DThomsen8 (talk) 00:47, 2 May 2011 (UTC)Reply
Ah, those articles...let me see what I can do without jeopardizing your claim to them for the copyedit drive.Queenmomcat (talk) 00:50, 2 May 2011 (UTC)Reply
1) As the Glenelg High School article stands, I'd say remove (or drastically shorten) the list of sports championships, and combine the separate music/band sections into one, with subsections; there's no context provided for why sports and music should comprise something like 85% of the article. (e.g. are students known for feeding into the professional sports leagues or the Olympics? do the school's students go off to Juilliard?)Queenmomcat (talk) 01:02, 2 May 2011 (UTC)Reply
2) The Gary and Jerri-Ann Jacobs High Tech High Charter School is a bit more problematic; there's something not quite encyclopedic in tone about the whole article, the history section in particular, but again, I'd start by combining the sports sections into one. I'm not anti-sports, I swear, but in this case, it doesn't seem to be the notable/interesting thing about this particular high school.Queenmomcat (talk) 01:36, 2 May 2011 (UTC)Reply

Royal Oman Police edit

I have been asked to review the Royal Oman Police article, but right now I have many real life obligations, and I am reluctant to do very much on Wikipedia. However, I was amused by the ROP camel band photo. They appear to be playing bagpipes! --DThomsen8 (talk) 12:26, 12 May 2011 (UTC)Reply

I've got a bit of extra time on my hands; I'll see if I can make any suggestions. (Darned if that's not exactly what it looks like the riders are doing...)Queenmomcat (talk) 13:44, 12 May 2011 (UTC)Reply

GOCE drive update edit

Guild of Copy Editors May 2011 backlog elimination drive update
 

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors May 2011 Backlog elimination drive! Here is your mid-drive newsletter.

Participation
 
GOCE May 2011 backlog elimination drive progress graphs

So far, 54 people have signed up for the drive, and 33 are actively participating. If you signed up for the drive but have not participated yet, it's not too late! Try to copy edit at least a few articles. Remember, if you have rollover words from the last drive, you will lose them if you do not participate in this drive. If you have not signed up for the drive yet, you can sign up now. If you have questions about getting started, feel free to talk to us. Many thanks to those editors who have been helping out at the Requests page. We currently have 17 articles awaiting edit.

Progress report

We are making slow progress on achieving our target of reducing the overall backlog by 15%; in order to accomplish this goal we will need to complete about 400 more articles. However, we are making good progress on the 2009 backlog, as we have eliminated over half of the articles from 2009 that were present at the start of the drive. Let's concentrate our fire power on the remaining months from 2009; leaderboard awards will be handed out for 2009 articles this drive. Thank you for participating in the May 2011 drive. We hope it will be another success!

Your drive coordinators – S Masters (talk), Diannaa (Talk), Tea with toast, Chaosdruid, and Torchiest

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The Wikifier: March 2011 edit

 



To assist with preparing the newsletter, please visit the newsroom. Past editions may be viewed here.

Hello Wikifiers!

Sorry this Newsletter is late, It should have gone out a month ago. I've been very busy in real life and didn't have time to get over to the newsletter. In this edition of the Newsletter, we have an editorial written by our new executive coordinator; Guoguo12. Guoguo12 has succeeded Mono due to an indefinite wikibreak. We also have the results of the February and March Mini drives.

Happy Wikifying,

Sumsum2010, the assistant coordinator of WikiProject Wikify

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June 2011 Wikification Drive edit

Sumsum2010·T·C 04:13, 26 May 2011 (UTC)Reply

GOCE drive newsletter edit

Guild of Copy Editors May 2011 backlog elimination drive report
 

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors May 2011 Backlog elimination drive. Thank you for participating!

Participation
 
GOCE May 2011 backlog elimination drive progress graphs

There were 63 signups for the drive; of these, 45 participated. Although we did not award a bonus for articles from the Requests page this drive, we are not experiencing lengthy delays in getting the articles processed. Many thanks to editors who have been helping out at the Requests page and by copy editing articles from the backlog.

Progress report

During the month of May we reduced the backlog by approximately 10%, and made remarkable progress on eliminating articles tagged from 2009. There are now only 15 articles left, down from the 415 that were present when the drive started. Since our backlog drives began in May 2010 with 8,323 articles, we have cleared more than 54% of the backlog. A complete list of results and barnstars awarded can be found here. Barnstars will be distributed over the next week. If you enjoyed participating in our event, you may also like to join the Wikification drives, which are held on alternate months to our drives. Their June drive has started.

Coodinator election

The six-month term for our first tranche of Guild coordinators will be expiring at the end of June. We will be accepting nominations for the second tranche of coordinators, who will also serve a six-month term. Nominations will open starting on June 5. For complete information, please have a look at the election page.

Please feel free to contact any coordinator if you have any questions or need assistance. Your project coordinators are S Masters (talk), Diannaa (Talk), Tea with toast (Talk), Chaosdruid (talk), and Torchiest (talk).


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GOCE elections edit

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors
 
 

Elections are currently underway for our Guild coordinators. The voting period will run for 14 days and ends on June 30, 23:59 UTC. All GOCE members in good standing, as well as past participants of any of the Guild's Backlog elimination drives, are eligible to vote. The candidate with the highest number of votes will become the Lead Coordinator, therefore, your vote really matters! There is also a referendum to appoint a Coordinator Emeritus. Cast your vote today.

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WikiProject Wikify Discussion Invitation edit

Sumsum2010·T·C 23:22, 30 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

GoCE July Drive edit

I see that you have signed up for the July GoCE drive, but so far haven't done any copyedits. I miss you. --DThomsen8 (talk) 15:23, 7 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

I see that you are also involved in the Wikify effort. Could you please look at Zigor and Gernika, which I copyedited, but I am not sure if my Wikify efforts are done right. --DThomsen8 (talk) 15:25, 7 July 2011 (UTC)Reply
(soothingly) You'd think that being unemployed, I'd have MORE time for wikipedia editing! the garden and Mount TBR have called too loudly thus far but I've been eyeing the copyedit drive wistfully. I'll come back.
Gernika seems at least tolerably well done though I'll go back to see if it needs any more polishing, but I can't find a 'Zigor' article, or rather, I find three. Which did you mean?
Zigor (opera) and Gernika (opera) are the two articles I copyedited. Sorry, overly hasty posting. --DThomsen8 (talk) 23:34, 7 July 2011 (UTC)Reply
Better? (finally getting around to signing my comments again. Derp.) Queenmomcat (talk) 00:49, 8 July 2011 (UTC)Reply
No, much better, both of them. Easier to read and follow now, rather stilted wording before.--DThomsen8 (talk) 01:11, 8 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

Requested copyedit edit

If you are quick, you can do Mohammad Nasim Faqiri as a requested but easy copyedit. As you can see, I am testing the idea of requesting a copyedit on an article which is not FA or GA quality, but where I want prompt action on behalf of the WP:ARS. --DThomsen8 (talk) 13:07, 15 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

Let me see what I can do...Queenmomcat (talk) 13:13, 15 July 2011 (UTC)Reply
Better? Queenmomcat (talk) 13:28, 15 July 2011 (UTC)Reply
Much better. Would you agree that |cleanup=July 2011|confusing=July 2011|wikify=July 2011 can be deleted from the issues? --DThomsen8 (talk) 13:51, 15 July 2011 (UTC)Reply
I think they can be removed. Certainly, I like the idea of keeping many of the articles on minor things/people/events; how else would I learn what a pie floater is? They don't have to be long, to be sure, but it's nice to find out about someone not well known outside of zir country, such as Faqiri.Queenmomcat (talk) 16:10, 15 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

GOCE drive newsletter edit

Guild of Copy Editors July 2011 backlog elimination drive update
 

 
GOCE July 2011 backlog elimination drive progress graphs

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors July 2011 Backlog elimination drive! Here is your mid-drive newsletter.

Participation

So far, 45 people have signed up for the drive, of which 30 are actively participating, a very high participation rate. If you have not signed up for the drive yet, you can sign up now. If you have questions about getting started, feel free to talk to us.

Progress report

Progress has been less than that needed to meet our target for the drive (which would reduce the backlog by about 400 articles). Remember though, if everyone copy edits one or two articles every day, we will easily meet our goal. Many thanks to those editors who have been helping out at the Requests page. Reducing the number of articles on this list has been a major success of this drive. Thanks for participating!

Your drive coordinators – Diannaa, Chaosdruid, The Utahraptor, Slon02 and SMasters

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GOCE drive report edit

Guild of Copy Editors July 2011 backlog elimination drive report
 

 
GOCE July 2011 backlog elimination drive progress graphs

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors July 2011 Backlog elimination drive. Thank you for participating! Here is your end-of-drive report.

Participation

50 people signed up for the drive, of which 39 participated. Thanks to all who copy edited articles and helped us reduce the backlogs in both the total articles and requests. We offered a bonus for copy edits from the Requests page, and have been somewhat successful in reducing that backlog, as a record 89 new requests were received in the month of July.

Progress report

During the month of July we reduced the backlog by 338 articles, or by about 8.5%. We did not reach our goal of a 10% reduction, but we came close, and did very well considering the small size of the group participating. Since our Backlog elimination drives began in May 2010, we have reduced the backlog by 4,708 articles. End-of-drive results can be found here. We will be handing out barnstars within the next week or two.

Requests page

Please remember that the GOCE Requests page is receiving a high number of requests, with the number of August requests already above three per day. Any assistance to help keep the backlog down would be greatly appreciated.

Our next drive will be in September. We hope to see you there!

Your drive coordinators – Diannaa, Chaosdruid, The Utahraptor, Slon02 and SMasters

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GOCE drive newsletter edit

Invitation from the Guild of Copy Editors
 

The Guild of Copy Editors invites you to participate in their September 2011 Backlog elimination drive, a month-long effort to reduce the size of the copy editing backlog. The drive will begin on September 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and will end on September 30 at 23:59 (UTC). We will be tracking the number of 2010 articles in the backlog, as we want to copy edit as many of those as possible. Please consider copy editing an article that was tagged in 2010. Barnstars will be given to anyone who edits more than 4,000 words, with special awards for the top 5 in the categories "Number of articles", "Number of words", and "Number of articles of over 5,000 words". See you at the drive! – Your drive coordinators: Diannaa, Chaosdruid, The Utahraptor, Slon02, and SMasters.

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GOCE drive newsletter edit

Guild of Copy Editors September 2011 backlog elimination drive update
 

 
GOCE September 2011 backlog elimination drive progress graphs

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors September 2011 Backlog elimination drive! Here's the mid-drive newsletter.

Participation

We have had 55 people sign up for this drive so far, and 31 have participated. If you have signed up but have not yet copy edited any articles, please consider doing so. Every bit helps! It's not too late to join the drive if you have not already done so. Another great way to help out is to watch-list the Coordinators talk page and participate in the ongoing development of the Guild.

Progress report

So far, we have reduced the backlog by 75 articles, or about 19% of our goal. We have also cleared January 2010 off of the queue and are close to clearing off February and March. If each participant were to copy edit two articles from February and March 2010, they would be completely eliminated from the queue.

Rollover words

Several concerns have been brought up this drive about the usage of rollover words. Rollover words only count if they're from the previous drive. For example, if you received 1,000 rollover words in March and didn't participate in May, your rollover words return to zero. This is to encourage participation in multiple consecutive drives.

Your drive coordinators – Diannaa, Chaosdruid, The Utahraptor, Slon02 and SMasters

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GOCE drive newsletter edit

Guild of Copy Editors September 2011 backlog elimination drive report
 

 
GOCE September 2011 Backlog elimination drive progress graphs

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors September 2011 Backlog elimination drive! We would like to thank all who participated in this drive. Here is the end-of-drive report.

Participation

There were 58 editors who signed-up for this drive, of which 42 participated. This is a slight increase from the July 2011 drive participation, where 39 out of 50 people that signed up participated. Thank you to everyone!

Progress report

During the drive, we reduced the backlog by 146 articles, or by about 4%. Overall we did well, especially considering the exceptionally large number of articles that were tagged during September. Thus far we have reduced the copy edit backlog by 4854 articles, or by about 58%. If we keep up our current rate of copy editing, the backlog should be reduced by 65–70% by the end of this year. End-of-drive results and barnstar information can be found here. Barnstars will be handed out this week.

Once again, thank you for participating in the Guild's September 2011 Backlog elimination drive! Our next drive will be in November, and we hope to see you there!

Your drive coordinators – Diannaa, Chaosdruid, The Utahraptor, Slon02 and SMasters

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ARS Source searches edit

I have revised an entry on the ARS project page and posted it on the ARS talk page, but it occurred to me that a librarian might have another entry. These are potential sources to use when an AfD is being rescued, and better sources are needed. Note that there are no Wikipedia articles for NewsLibrary (but one is needed), nor for Library of Congress Authorities (but that entry could be added to the Library of Congress article). Any advice or comments?--DThomsen8 (talk) 13:58, 15 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

Another editor has created a redirect for Library of Congress Authorities to the LOC article, which does not describe LOC Authorities. We need a librarian to create a description of the LOC Authorities, to be added to the appropriate LOC article. Beyond the main article, there are articles on Classification and Subjects, and perhaps the LOC Authorities fit in there somehow. --DThomsen8 (talk) 19:59, 15 October 2011 (UTC)Reply
It looks like someone's come up with an article for Newslibrary already (I tweaked it, but otherwise a good start). I'll poke about the other articles you mention and see what I can come up with.
Is Library of Congress Subject Headings related to what I am calling Library of Congress Authorities]]? It seems to be the same to me, but I am not a librarian, just a library fan and supporter. --DThomsen8 (talk) 18:13, 17 October 2011 (UTC)Reply
Sort of--the subject headings are a part of the "authorities"; these authority records include not only a standardized set of descriptors (subject headings) but also a standardized way to enter the author's name, the book's title, and so on and so forth. [runs off to check whether there's an article on library cataloguing generally...]
What did you learn about the coverage of library cataloging? --DThomsen8 (talk) 11:53, 29 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

GoCE September Drive edit

I signed up for the GoCE September Drive, and did not do even one article. I was too busy with 3D matters and other efforts on Wikipedia. Maybe I will join the November Drive, and contribute after November 8th. --DThomsen8 (talk) 14:01, 15 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

Tch! (don't feel bad: despite (still) being unemployed, I didn't exactly do much in September either; who knew a book blog could take up so much time?)

GOCE drive newsletter edit

Invitation from the Guild of Copy Editors
 

The Guild of Copy Editors invites you to participate in their November 2011 Backlog elimination drive, a month-long effort to reduce the size of the copy edit backlog. The drive begins on November 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and ends on November 30 at 23:59 (UTC). We will be tracking the number of 2010 articles (and specifically will be targeting the oldest three months), as we want to copy edit as many of these as possible. Barnstars will be awarded to anyone who copy edits more than 4,000 words, and special awards will be given to the top 5 in the following categories: "Number of articles", "Number of words", and "Number of articles of over 5,000 words". We hope to see you there! – Your drive coordinators: Diannaa, Chaosdruid, The Utahraptor, Slon02, and SMasters.

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GOCE newsletter edit

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors
 
 

Elections are currently underway for our third tranche of Guild coordinators. The voting period will run for 14 days: 00:01 UTC, 16 December – 23:59 UTC, 31 December. All GOCE members, as well as past participants of any of the Guild's Backlog elimination drives, are eligible to vote. There are five candidates vying for four positions. Your vote really matters! Cast your vote today.

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GOCE 2011 Year-End Report edit

Guild of Copy Editors 2011 Year-End Report
 
 

We have reached the end of the year, and what a year it has been! The Guild of Copy Editors was full of activity, and we achieved numerous important milestones in 2011. Read all about these in the Guild's 2011 Year-End Report.

Highlights
  • Membership grows to 764 editors, an increase of 261
  • Report on coordinators' elections
  • Around 1,000 articles removed through six Backlog elimination drives
  • Guild Plans for 2012
  • Requests page report
  • Sign up for the January 2012 Backlog elimination drive!


Get your copy of the Guild's 2011 Year-End Report here
On behalf of the Guild, we take this opportunity to wish you Season's Greetings and Happy New Year. We look forward to your support in 2012!
– Your 2011 Coordinators: Diannaa (lead), The Utahraptor, and Slon02 and SMasters (emeritus).

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