Prof1957

Welcome to my talk page. Prof1957 (talk) 13:50, 23 September 2010 (UTC)Prof1957

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PS: Pardon the boilerplate welcome but it covers some of the necessary material. The notability issue with Mark M. Goldblatt is that all of the sources are by him rather than about him. Wikipedia has notability standards, the most applicable one being WP:BIO. Basically, the subject of a biography should have received significant attention from 3rd-party sources such as profiles or awards. Being a published author is not enough. I suggest that you use the article talk page (talk:Mark M. Goldblatt) to list the 3rd party sources. Then I, or another editor, can add them to the article.

Another issue with that article is the longish section on theology. Why is it there? The article asserts that he is best known as a political commentator. Why are his views on theology especially notable? Have other authors discussed them?   Will Beback  talk  19:32, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Also, the Greenpoint Press article makes no assertion of the notability of its subject. Publishing a dozen books does not make a publisher notable. Like with biographies, the subject needs to have been written about in reliable sources. Without an assertion of notability, the article may be deleted immediately. Since it looks like the best available sources have already been used, and they do not meet the standards, I'll go ahead and delete it. It can be recreated if sources can be found that talk about it.   Will Beback  talk  19:32, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for you reply. I'm still going over those links. However as a general principle, reviews of the novel help indicate that the novel is noteworthy, but they don't directly show the notability of the author. Likewise for having it as a homework assignment (if that were the threshold we'd have articles on every textbook writer). The "Beach Reads" entry is similar to being quoted: it's a very tangential indicator of notability. Interviews are trickier. An interview about Goldblatt's views on some political issue doesn't help much while an interview about his life would be more on point. For references to count towards notability, Goldblatt needs to be the subject. The guideline is at Wikipedia:Notability (people).

I see I never answered your earlier question about the quotations. This is similar to the general notability issues. According to whom are these quotations noteworthy? When I did a search on Proquest, I found some commentaries quoted by third parties. Those would be the ones to include. However, Wikipedia is not intended to be a repository of quotations. A few quotes are sometimes included but there is a sister project, Wikiquote, for longer lists.   Will Beback  talk  21:09, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Regarding Greenpoint Press, it would fall under Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). Just as with people, companies need to have been the subject of significant coverage in reliable sources in order to establish notability. That's a tough threshold. Even if their books and authors are notable, few people write about the publisher itself. I've removed the deletion notice from the article temporarily in case you think you can find such coverage.   Will Beback  talk  21:14, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

I've listened to the first five minutes of the podcast. I guess I have to keep listening for Goldblatt to show up. However when it comes to notability, being interviewed for a blog or self-published podcast doesn't help much. Being interviewed by the BBC is another matter.   Will Beback  talk  21:32, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

It's a web station, not a broadcast station - is that right? I don't know quite where that fits, in the scheme of things. It's certainly an adequate source for Goldblatt's views, but I'm not sure how much it helps the notability issue. However since multiple sources are required, it helps at least a little.   Will Beback  talk  22:01, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

I just noticed that user:Charles Salzberg wrote the article on Mark M. Goldblatt and Mark M. Goldblatt wrote the article on Charles Salzberg. The Wikipedia equivalent of logrolling? In any case, both of you should read WP:COI, which I've already linked for you. Except for removing unsourced negative material and obvious errors, neither of you should be editing your own biographies. As I suggested before, please make article suggestion on the article talk pages and let uninvolved editors do the actual editing.   Will Beback  talk  23:11, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Greenpoint Press

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