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A question about my denied AfC submission

Hi Chrissymad,

You declined my submission for an AfC, citing that one or more source(s) was not verifiable. I was wondering if you could tell me which of the sources was/were unverifiable? It would be a big help if you could. I was having some trouble finding sources that described the subject of my article, and literally the only source I could find simply describing the business in question was its own website. I understand Wikipedia states that this is not a verifiable source, but I have seen articles that do cite things from websites that the subject runs; one example I found was in an article for PHH Corporation, the second source listed is from PHH's own website. If one of my sources was unverifiable because of this, then could you tell me exactly what I wrote that isn't okay?

Thanks,
Graceklein (talk) 22:37, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

13:40:41, 3 April 2018 review of submission by Coexpert1

• Coexpert1 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Barry Farah (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Barry Farah is an American businessman and motivational speaker who is a contender to be the Republican Nominee for Governor of Colorado. Mr. Farah's legal team is looking into remedies for his lack of ability to post a neutral wikipedia page. Can we please have the lawful name and address of the reviewer, as well as the name an address of their superior? Could you please provide us in-depth detail of what edits would be needed to make this article acceptable?

Regards-

Coexpert1 (talk) 13:40, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Coexpert1 Wikipedia is edited by volunteers, there is no "superior" or supervisor, if that is what you mean. You should also review WP:COIDISCLOSEPAY before continuing to edit on this subject. As far as the reviewers information - as the reviewer, no I will not divulge any of my personal information nor will any others. The detailed reason for rejection is in the red box at the top of the draft as well as on your talk page. It also contains helpful links which explain Wikipedia policy and guidelines. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 15:03, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

fyi, I have given the contributor a warning about Legal Threats. Your reply was of course perfectly proper, but it also will help to refer information about incidents of this nature of WP:ANI or to any administrator. DGG ( talk ) 04:17, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Reverts

Do not just revert my edits without a genuine reason.--James Joseph P. Smith (talk) 21:19, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) There is a very good reason as to why she reverted your edits: they're not constructive. Why, you might ask? Let's use an example. Say, for a moment, that you're notable. I make an article on you (assuming your username is your real name), and I put "James Smith, also known as James." That is an absolutely useless clarification. It's common to refer to someone as their first name, and expressing so is needless. Furthermore, you brought it to the point of edit warring with multiple experienced editors, which could result in a block. _{Vermont | reply here} 21:58, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Notice of noticeboard discussion

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. General Ization ^Talk 22:44, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Women Thrive Worldwide

Thanks. I've asked at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women#Can someone improve Women Thrive Worldwide? for help with the article, as I assume it could be made into a decent one. This editor either can't find her talk page or isn't interested in discussion. Doug Weller talk 14:08, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

John, King of England

Lackland-- I've read that explanation before.--Dlohcierekim (talk) 15:28, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Dlohcierekim Mind switching that to indef? They're trolling and a sock. See Jlody2006sheep. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 15:33, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Also they're both likely a sock of GodsPlan123 if I had to guess. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 15:35, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

 Done

Dlohcierekim Apparently they're not socks of GodsPlan but they're socks of each other at least lol CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 15:53, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

They are confirmed socks of each other though so the block was still reasonable :P CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 15:56, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Regarding article Keerthiraj

Hello Chrissymad, Regarding your recent edit in the article: Keerthiraj, you've deleted reference citation of ′filmbeat.com′ (no.4 citation, in previous edit) and retained reference citation of same website (reference no.1, as now in article). Can you please reply the reason.. .?
Thank you, Ganeshprasadkp (talk) 16:48, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Ganeshprasadkp As I've repeatedly explained these are not reliable sources sufficient for a BLP. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 16:50, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

I got it. But I meant: Two references belong to same website - ′filmbeat.com′. One is deleted, but one is not. I thought of knowing the reason. | Thank you, Ganeshprasadkp (talk) 16:54, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

That single reference is at least coverage whereas the others were just listing. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 16:56, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Sure, ok. One last thing: In the article Prathap, Isnt this reference source: Link, a RS citation? Its a major newspaper in India. | Thank you, Ganeshprasadkp (talk) 17:06, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

The content itself in this case is just a listing. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 17:08, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks again for your quick replies. Ganeshprasadkp (talk) 17:10, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

NPR Barnstar

		The New Page Patroller's Barnstar
		Thank you very much for your help at New Pages Patrol over the last year. — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) 00:17, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi,

I was fixing AfD nomaintion when you tagged this. I chose AfD to avoid A11 decline like this. Thanks –Ammarpad (talk) 02:08, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Ammarpad This absolutely qualifies as an A11 or even G3. The one you've linked is completely irrelevant. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 02:09, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Even now I know it might be speedied, once the SPI is checked. –Ammarpad (talk) 02:12, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Longview Independent School District

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longview_Independent_School_District

Could you provide some assistance in updating this page? I understand that you've reverted it to a previous version, but the information on there now is actually several years out of date and/or inaccurate. While I understand there might be some issues, I would still like to update the page. Is there at least a minimal amount of editing that could be done, while other aspects are still pending? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by MRProsr (talk • contribs) 13:36, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

@MRProsr:(talk page watcher) The updates must be made from WP:reliable sources unconnected with the subject and with a reputation for fact checking. Do you have any?--Dlohcierekim (talk) 22:32, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

== ==== Kelly Frances ==== --Megamediamissus (talk) 04:38, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

I feel that over the past 4 years, there are globally established 3rd party RS's - albeit in possibly a very weird format... and it seems you were given a lot of frustration... I received notice of your submission to delete my page. I replied, though with confusion. I feel that my work has been referenced by third party sources and more than once, covering the same themes of activism, my career as an expat entertainer (and prominently so in Seoul), and having been recognized by several respected sources.

I take exception to language such as exaggerated and spam (or the equivalent), but the feedback is valuable and rather than see a confusing deletion after 4 years and my asking wikipedia to assist me, I would prefer to improve the page. I see music bands thanking me, I do know some are in Korean language....i am at a loss, but i am also embarrassed and a but stunned. My career as an activist helped change legislation and this is documented via many interviews from national press. I ask for understanding for my emotional response as my work meant a great deal and what was contributed also meant a lot to me. I feel that it is clear there is truth or factual data, not "commissioned" data. I do feel offended, but this is understood as your job. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Megamediamissus (talk • contribs) 16:56, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Megamediamissus, which page are you referring to? Primefac (talk) 16:58, 12 April 2018 (UTC) (talk page stalker)

Forgiver me, I am not savvy with this program - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_Frances — Preceding unsigned comment added by Megamediamissus (talk • contribs) 16:59, 12 April 2018 (UTC) I am now more comfortable editing the page - \i don't wish to have a page that appears as chrissy stated. thanks. I feel deleted it is dishonest, but your call. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Megamediamissus (talk • contribs) 17:10, 12 April 2018 (UTC) Hello again, I know you are busier than most, but i wondered what is my next expected step, or how I could assist you?" I wrote extensively to the moderator on my page. Thank you always, KF...there was a new citation added due to a film I starred in making \cannes but I did not add it. My mac was used, but the director, who understands korean, cited it. I have complied with your request not to edit anything. you're right, it does read like an advertisement. \i don't want that. thanks again Chrissy, Megamediamissus (talk) 04:37, 14 April 2018 (UTC)User:megamediamissus (talk) 11:33, 14 April 2018 (UTC) Hi there, I see a revision of line 37, and you ask if there is a source - there are many....I am unsure if you're requesting my help. Best, Kelly https://d31j74p4lpxrfp.cloudfront.net/sites/default/files/ca_-_en_files/fromcagetoconsumer_part1_tcm22-2706.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by Megamediamissus (talk • contribs) 22:23, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

List of software packages

I am trying to understand why you are removing the product that I keep placing on the list of software package managers page. I contributed to the talk page on the list of software package managers and readded in hopes that it would address your concerns. I'm not sure why you removed it without contributing to the discussion. Sirwigwam (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:23, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Sirwigwam I explained in my edit summaries. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of links. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 18:19, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello. You commented on my article, "Draft:Ella Sheppard," and it seems Huon has a problem with it. He cites "unreliable references." Can you help me? You clearly appreciate the value of this article. Huon, on the other hand, has a problem. Nina07011960 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 03:51, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

18:52:57, 18 April 2018 review of submission by Abbe Rose

• Abbe Rose (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Modernism Week (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I am respectfully requesting a re-review. I volunteered to write the Wikipedia page for a a very active philanthropic organization in my town that does not currently have a Wikipedia page. I have had deep experience contributing to another Wikipedia page which was published so was happy to roll up my sleeves and help them out. I do not work for Modernism Week and will not be compensated for this effort in any way. I have a full time job and have done this article on my own time.

What also motivated me to volunteer was that a more recent, newly-launched, art festival in our town, with some similarities and an overlap in audience, published a Wikipedia page after their first year this past year. They are: Desert X. They are a terrific, new non-profit event in the Coachella Valley. I used the Desert X page as an inspiration and a model that had successfully published. My references represent independent journalists writing about the organization. I checked many similar festival non-profit pages. I paid attention to, and stuck with, the citation guidelines very closely. The Modernism Week organization is mentioned on the city of Palm Springs Wikipedia page as well as other pages including those of most of the Palm Springs architects. It is validated on many pages in your community except having its own page. I ask you to respectfully reconsider the publication of the article. If you feel something is missing I will be happy to add it and likewise will delete what might not reach the bar for acceptance. I am continuing to go through the article and deleting anything that is not essential to the basic understanding of the organization. I think it is pared to its core mission and activities at this point but will continue to edit it. I will add that when I launched into this effort I mistakenly and naively used what I thought would be a harmless name to correlate with my volunteer effort: MWeek. That was met with instant disapproval. I read the justification, understood it, and moved immediately to change my name. It was an error on my part to create a "handle" that would mistakenly indicate I was paid by the organization. I am not being paid and am not employed by Modernism Week. I am volunteering. I hope that this answers that question. Thank you for your time. Abbe Rose Abbe Rose (talk) 18:52, 18 April 2018 (UTC) Abbe Rose (talk) 18:52, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Naraly Rosas

Hi, I restored and sent to AfD as was previously deprodded.--Dlohcierekim (talk) 16:15, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Dlohcierekim I'm a little confused, it makes absolutely no claim of significance and I'm not sure what a prod has to do with the speedy? CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 16:16, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

I KNow. BS, right? Can't go backwards, so forward to afd. Creators should not be allowed to deprod.--Dlohcierekim (talk) 16:20, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Dlohcierekim, Chrissy's (valid) point is that a removed BLPPROD does not make a page ineligible for a speedy deletion. You made the right call the first time and it should have stayed deleted. Primefac (talk) 16:21, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Correct ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:57, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Dlohcierekim A contested prod does not mean that an article can't be speedied...the only thing encyclopedic about this article is that it's a great encyclopedic example of what A7 is for. ;) CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 16:22, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Really. I cannot find a clear cut guidance. But I'd be glad to delete the thing.--Dlohcierekim (talk) 16:23, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Now how do we clean up this mess.--Dlohcierekim (talk) 16:24, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Modernism Week

Hi, just to let you know I responded to a question about the above, raised at the AFC Helpdesk, here, Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk#16:26:49, 19 April 2018 review of submission by Abbe Rose. No discourtesy intended, and absolutely accept that my weaknesses for architecture articles may be affecting my judgement. Best regards. KJP1 (talk) 18:51, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

And apologies again, for overlooking that you'd removed a chuck of CV before I ran it through Earwig. KJP1 (talk) 18:59, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Please stop editing on my page.

Hi Chrissy,

You have falsely accused me of having a conflict of interest on a page. I am in the area and I have begun to do some research about local politicians and will be editing their pages too. All the sources and information is correct. Please stop commenting and getting involved with my edits.

Thank you. MASSPoli (talk) 14:39, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

MASSPoli I encouraged you to read COI if you have a COI. However, anyone can edit an article and the content you added (repeatedly) was little more than promotional fluff for a politician sourced to his campaign platform and not encyclopedic. I'd encourage you to read WP:NPOV. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 14:40, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your response. However, all the information there is factual. It is a matter of your opinion on bias. I believe that I had a NPOV with the edits as they are all taken right from the sources I cited.

MASSPoli NPOV is not my opinion. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 14:44, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

You had the opinion that it was not a NPOV. They are right from the source.

MASSPoli You'll notice that I'm not the only editor who agrees that it was not neutral. Just because it's written somewhere doesn't mean it should be on Wikipedia. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 14:47, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Contested deletion of Globglogabgalab

This redirect should not be speedily deleted because it is mentioned in the lead section of Strawinsky and the Mysterious House. According to Google Trends, it is searched more often in Google than the redirect target, and it is likely what users will search for to find out about Strawinsky and the Mysterious House. —SpanishSnake (talk) 22:58, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

References

Thank you!

		The Userpage Shield
		For dealing with vandals in my userspace so quickly that I didn't even have time to notice, thank you! RA0808 talkcontribs 16:54, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Bahujan Azad Party‎

I don't want to create a whole thing with other editors on this issue, but I would invite you to the talk page to familiarize yourself with why I inserted the speedy deletion template. It is a clear violation of WP:G4. This article was already deleted. I hope you'll assist me in getting this page deleted right away. Thanks. GnarlyLikeWhoa (talk) 18:24, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

I am fully aware of speedy deletion procedures, thanks. AFD requires discussion and as it hasn't been closed, it must remain on the article. I encourage you to familiarize yourself with WP:CSD as there was no previous deletion discussion so G4 does not apply. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 18:25, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

GnarlyLikeWhoa Please read WP:G4 again as it clearly states: G4. Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 18:27, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Keep in my mind this is a good faith effort on my part. The page was re-created after it was deleted. This is that discussion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bahujan Azad Party. If the appropriate period of time after that discussion was initiated had not elapsed before it was deleted, then my mistake. I was simply of the understanding that a page should not be summarily re-created, especially by a brand new editor. GnarlyLikeWhoa (talk) 18:37, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

I never said it wasn't but you're persistent badgering of editors who are very experienced (myself included) leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouth when you accuse them of not understanding a long established policy or guideline but have misread and misunderstood it yourself. No hard feelings but you have to let it go through the process. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 18:38, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

I didn't badger anyone. I came to both you and cyberpower678 in good faith, but was a bit pointed with Winged Blades of Godric because of his/her attitude. Editors too commonly view objections to their work as bad faith, and as if they need to defend their honor. That's not what happened here. I invited editors to discuss, because I was puzzled why a new editor would be allowed to re-create a deleted page. In any case, it's not serious. I want good relationships with other editors, and to the extent I insulted you or left a bad taste in your mouth, my apologies. GnarlyLikeWhoa (talk) 18:46, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

@GnarlyLikeWhoa:. Whoa! one should not cast aspersions against new editors. And I've seen new editors recreate A7'd article that turned out to meet notability. One should not be in a hurry to delete, especially because a new user recreated a page. --Dlohcierekim (talk) 18:43, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

I took issue with the fact that the new editor did not register an objection previously. And as a new editor, I accordingly mosied on over to his talk page to welcome him. If I am mistaken about the rules, my bad. I thought I was doing the right thing, but I guess it's a learning experience. GnarlyLikeWhoa (talk) 18:49, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

10:23:21, 29 April 2018 review of submission by Hishamzd

• Hishamzd (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Mahmoud Eid (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

dear chrissymad thanks for your review i did edidet ,my article 2 weeks ago and still under review can you please tell me what should i do to publish it?? can you give examples of the sources you need please help thank you Hishamzd (talk) 10:23, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

"Disruptive Editing" on The Mining Industry Human Resources Council page

Hello there,

I'm a communications coordinator for the Mining Industry Human Resources Council. We are a not-for-profit organization located in Kanata, Ontario, Canada.

Our communications team is currently in the process of revitalizing our own website, and as such I thought it would be a good idea to update our Wikipedia page to better reflect our programs / content to better serve our members.

So far, I have only modified the introduction, added a brief background section and a few services. I also adjusted the sidebar to be more infomrative. Finally, I removed the old programs, MWIN and MiHR innovate, as they are very outdated and no longer in use. You have reverted these changes on the basis that they appeared promotional.

My intention is not to advertise, but to update our content so as to not mislead our members or others interested - much of the information on our current Wikipedia page is outdated, and I want our page to be the best possible reflection of our organization.

If you could please stop undoing my changes, I would greatly appreciate it.

Kind Regards,

Alex Parsonsalexc (talk) 19:49, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

You have turned it into a directory listing. You need to request changes on the talk page and refrain from editing directly. See WP:COI. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 19:51, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

WikiCup 2018 May newsletter

The second round of the 2018 WikiCup has now finished. Most contestants who advanced to the next round scored upwards of 100 points, but two with just 10 points managed to scrape through into round 3. Our top scorers in the last round were:

• Cas Liber, our winner in 2016, with three featured articles
• Iazyges, with nine good articles and lots of bonus points
• Yashthepunisher, a first time contestant, with two featured lists
• SounderBruce, a finalist last year, with seventeen good topic articles
• Usernameunique, a first time contestant, with fourteen DYKs
• Muboshgu, a seasoned competitor, with three ITNs and
• Courcelles, another first time contestant, with twenty-seven GARs

So far contestants have achieved twelve featured articles between them and a splendid 124 good articles. Commendably, 326 GARs have been completed during the course of the 2018 WikiCup, so the backlog of articles awaiting GA review has been reduced as a result of contestants' activities. As we enter the third round, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 2 but before the start of round 3 can be claimed in round 3. Remember too that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them. When doing GARs, please make sure that you check that all the GA criteria are fully met; most of the GARs are fine, but a few have been a bit skimpy.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article nominations, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed (remember to remove your listing when no longer required). Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13 (talk), Sturmvogel 66 (talk), Vanamonde (talk) and Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:10, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Janindu Mahesh

If it quacks like a duck and waddles like a duck.... recently user Minimuthu123 posted on my talkpage Please don't do it. I'm trying this since 2015 however their edit history only started in March 2018?? Dan arndt (talk) 10:47, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Draft under review

Chrissy, you marked Draft:Constance Hejda as "under review" on 15 April. Is the review complete? Reviews like this are generally expected to take hours, not weeks. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 12:54, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Draft: Constantine Mavroudis

Just wanted to thank you for your recommendations on my draft, it was very helpful. I have been getting basically the same comments on my draft to add more sources for notability but my presentation of the sources or the notability is "fluffy" for sure. This makes total sense. It was also very helpful to read about fluffy or peacock submissions. This is my first submission and I am learning so much, hopefully soon I can get my submission just right and celebrate my first publish! amr247rnAmr247rn (talk) 05:09, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

What compels me to do this

Dear Chrissymad, please see WP:Linter for what compels me to do this. Cheers! —Anomalocaris (talk) 16:48, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, Primefac explained it to me. It just looked like a bunch of gibberish to me. Thanks for cleaning up! CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 16:50, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Clarabell89 Image

Dear Chrissymad, I owned all rights to this image before releasing them under a CC0 license. It is true Haute Photography took the image with me, but I have purchased all the images they took and released all rights to them under a CC0 license. This can be verified directly with Haute Photography or if you need info from me, tell me what to give you. ClaraBell89 (talk) 19:15, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

You'll have to provide proof via OTRS: {This media file is missing evidence of permission. It may have an author and a source, but there is no proof that the author agreed to license the file under the given license. Please provide evidence of permission by either providing a link to a site with an explicit release under a free license or by sending a declaration of consent to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org.. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 19:17, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

17:02:17, 3 May 2018 review of submission by Quetta87300

• Quetta87300 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:PEARL Institute of Management and Information Technology (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Quetta87300 (talk) 17:02, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Kindly suggest how my article is different (advertisement) than the following few examples in order to bring more changes please: https://www.wikiwand.com/en/University_of_Balochistan https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Command_and_Staff_College https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Al-Hamd_Islamic_University

Your guidance and support will be much appreciated.

Will Gafney draft?

You marked this as being in review, a month ago. Did you forget about it? -- RoySmith (talk) 01:03, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

I've removed this (and the similar one in Draft:Constance Hejda , mentioned above). Please, if you place a template like this and then are unable to complete the work you intended in a short amount of time, remove the template. The intent of these is to prevent edit conflicts during a complicated operation, and shouldn't be left around for weeks. Thanks. -- RoySmith (talk) 17:54, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Re Nirmalyasikdar

Yeah, they will have to be very clear about what they intend to edit about for me to even consider unblocking them. I'm not sure they will even reply. 331dot (talk) 17:37, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Interestingly there are 12 incidence of this being added to en and they have about half those edits, so I can't even AGF here and it's not even like they were adding related links to the subjects they spammed. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 17:38, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

But they promise to never do it again (I swear) <makes appropriate religious gesture.><cynicism />--Dlohcierekim (talk) 17:41, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

I'm a little jaded right now, as you can tell, I've been on a massive SEO link spam-reverting spree x-wiki, so my ability to AGF with spammers has been depleted. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 17:43, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

List of model checking tools issues

This is a gentle reminder that the Talk page on List of model checking tools is waiting for your anwer.

Vasywriter (talk) 28 April 2018 —Preceding undated comment added 06:13, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

The Talk page on List of model checking tools is still waiting for your anwer. --Vasywriter (talk) 11:39, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Please, justify the deletions you brought to this page. --Vasywriter (talk) 09:33, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Vasywriter Please stop hounding me. I have explained this several times and the onus is on you to justify their inclusion. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of links. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 10:47, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello Chris

How are you. I was wondering, could I get the new page review right(or auto patroll/rollback if you think I am still premature for new pages). I am thinking of going 24/7 in patroll. and I would love to do so in new pages, as you see I am familiar with most and if you'd still think I'm premature, would you give me a test run? I will go under your supervision so you'll see that everything I do is correct? cheers! KnowledgeChuck (talk) 17:25, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Chuck your enthusiasm, as a brand new editor, is fantastic! New page patrolling is critical to the identification of WP:ATTACK pages so requires a good sense of WP:BLP policies. I wonder if you could describe in more detail how DJ JY (artist) "passes WP:GNG without any concerns" [2]? Chetsford (talk) 14:35, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello pal, I hope you are having a good day. The author in question of the subject has manipulatively changed the subjects name many times to avoid the salt, this I did not know, I have withdrawn my !vote and I move for a deletion. Regarding my request, I have a huge ambition and I would be honored and ethically patroll changes under your supervision with a right such as new page reviewer or rollbacker(to prevent vandalism) and to be autopatrolled. KnowledgeChuck (talk) 16:02, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello Chris, would you give me this right? I will work soley within my scope of range which is currently creating footy articles and patrolling new articles... KnowledgeChuck (talk) 13:28, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

KnowledgeChuck Have you had previous accounts? CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 13:30, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

This is my first, but I have read Wikipedia for years. --KnowledgeChuck (talk) 13:31, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

FMC issues

Hi Chrissymad, you have just reverted my change to the FMC page, concerning page issues. Can you please elaborate little bit on the talk page of the FMC why do you think that particular issue should stay on the page? Thank you and have a nice day. --AakaFosfor (talk) 16:06, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Chrissymad, let me politely remind my question. Thank your an answer, --AakaFosfor (talk) 12:09, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Chrissymad, I've added another comment in the FMC talk page. If you do not have any more comments on the advert issue concerning the actual state of the page, I'll remove the issue. --AakaFosfor (talk) 13:46, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Mervat Abou Oaf

Something is wrong here. It appears that you tried to tag this draft for speedy deletion, but it isn't tagged. It seems that the author keeps creating it as her user page, and then it gets moved to draft space because it is AFC-nominated, and then, and then? Robert McClenon (talk) 18:42, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

I see the problem. It was deleted from draft space, and I managed to move it from a user page back to draft space. I will tag it again. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:44, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

00:10:21, 10 May 2018 review of submission by Jamesreadings

• Jamesreadings (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:SerenataFlowers.com (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I have revised the draft page and removed all contents that would make it sound like advertising. I would love to know which part of the article is sounding like an advertisement. Jamesreadings (talk) 00:10, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Halszka Wasilewska

Hello Chrissy, thanks for reviewing my draft. I have an old photo of this brave lady from the 1920s. When can I insert into the infobox? --Po Mieczu (talk) 12:38, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Request on 11:59:23, 10 May 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Raylonergan1234

• Raylonergan1234 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Skillnet Ireland (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Raylonergan1234 (talk) 11:59, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi there! I crafted my first wiki page but was not accepted due to 'This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources.'.

I was just wondering if possible to get advice on what sources were or weren't reliable within the article, so I can replace them with more appropriate ones? OR, if it's the content rather than the sources cited that is the issue?

Page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Skillnet_Ireland

I don't want to have to change every source if some are okay and I just need to update a few of them :)

The article is for a Government agency based in Ireland, so I tried to keep the information as objective and matter as fact as possible.

Thanks, Ray Raylonergan1234 (talk) 11:59, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Raylonergan1234 - it is imperative that you read Wikipedia's paid editing disclosure policy before making any further edits about this topic. Thanks. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 12:59, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Drm310 I think I have now updated my user page to make my disclosure of being employed by Skillnet Ireland

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Raylonergan1234

Is there another step I should take or edits I should make to the article to help with possibly getting it reviewed again?

Raylonergan1234 (talk) 13:18, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

@Raylonergan1234: Thanks for the disclosure. There was a response to your post at the WP:Teahouse. In summary, your sources are not good enough to show that this organization is sufficiently notable enough for inclusion. Only in-depth writings from reliable and independent sources will be considered as evidence to gauge whether it has attracted sufficiently significant attention by the world at large and over a period of time. References that are just passing mentions aren't sufficient; press releases or interviews with employees are not considered independent and won't be considered valid. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 14:11, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Drm310 Thanks for that. I will find more appropriate citations from reliable sources and re-edit the page and resubmit. Skillnet Ireland is pretty much on par with these two Irish state organisations (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IDA_Ireland / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterprise_Ireland) so I was trying to match their style and substance. Thanks for the help so far.

Raylonergan1234 (talk) 14:17, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Aima Baig

Hi! OK I understand there was the hand of a sock user, but there were my edits too. Please guide what to do to restore my added content. Thanks! M. Billoo 00:33, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Respected Chrissymad, I am waiting for your kind response. Thanks! M. Billoo 11:37, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Chandrashekhar (TV series)

I don't know the controversy with the creator of the page but this is a notable show with enough internet hits to be sourced very well. I intend to remove the deletion tags and add many good references to make the page better. And since you have removed "tellychakkar" and "indiantelevision.com" references citing them as "exclusively wikis" is largely baseless accusations. Both are reputed "non wiki" internet news source running for more than last 17 years. Thanks JayB91 (talk) 20:09, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Request on 00:09:29, 12 May 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Harshaw61

• Harshaw61 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:The Americans (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi Chrissymad,

Thank you for reviewing my page! Any chance you could tell me which of my sources are unreliable? Here's the page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:The_Americans

And here are the sources:

The Americans (2013-07-22), The Late Show with David Letterman, retrieved 2018-05-09

"Ashley Monroe and The Americans - Jubilee, The Sessions, American Epic, Arena - BBC Four". BBC. Retrieved 2018-05-09.

Texas Killing Fields (2011), retrieved 2018-05-09

A Country Called Home (2015), retrieved 2018-05-09

Little Glory (2011), retrieved 2018-05-09

"LIVE: Beat This: Hal Willner Presents: A Celebration of the 60th Anniversary of Allen Ginsberg's "Howl" With Music, Words, and Funny People at the Theater at the Ace Hotel (4/7/15)". FLOOD. Retrieved 2018-05-09.

"I'll Be Yours - The Americans | Releases | AllMusic". AllMusic. Retrieved 2018-05-09.

Thanks,

Harshaw61 (talk) 00:09, 12 May 2018 (UTC)harshaw61 Harshaw61 (talk) 00:09, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

"Reverted 1 edit by Marshmallych (talk): Coi still exists."

Hello. You reverted my edit on page KaOS (Linux distribution). Bravemidwesterner has reworked "History" section, and after his/her reworking, article does not looking advert. No there grammar problems. Marshmallych 05:12, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

05:32:18, 12 May 2018 review of submission by 92.78.183.127

• 92.78.183.127 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Tarik Barri (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I added references to Barri's work from the NYT and Pitchfork, (please read a bit more than just the headlines). Also, if you search in en.wikipedia.org there are some mentions (and backlinks) for Barri already.

92.78.183.127 (talk) 05:32, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

SerenataFlowers notability

Hello, I have added a few references about Serenata Flowers from sources such as blogs and news press. Thank you. Jamesreadings (talk) 14:44, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Jamesreadings That is the exact opposite of what will establish notability. Please stop resubmitting it. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 14:45, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

You mentioned about artspam on my draft about SerenataFlowers. I would love to know what the problem was when it did not contain promotional contents. Jamesreadings (talk) 16:04, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Sitabani Wildlife Reserve is not a promotional Article.

Kindly help and inform us that what are the Promotional lines in the Wikipedia Article Titled "Sitabani Wildlife Reserve" ?

Please help us. Regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:204:2103:BB20:A8BF:BF84:965:79D (talk) 17:56, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Draft:Busiswa

Hello Chrissymad. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Draft:Busiswa, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not so promotional it can't remain in draftspace. Thank you. GorillaWarfare (talk) 21:53, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Annette Lee

Please stop reverting the old pages, the article was further written by an experienced user. If you have any issues, please highlight the offending parts in the talk page thanks

Stop adding poorly sourced information and promotional material to a BLP. The person you said "reviewed" it is an editor with a conflict of interest. Do not remove the tags again. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 13:21, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Why do you think that person has a conflict of interest? That user Rqiang84 has written many articles in the singapore online media space and although we do not know each other, from his edit history, i reached out to ask him to help look into this article in an attempt to satisfy your constant revisioning. If you could please highlight the offending parts in the talk page, it will be more helping than keep reverting. Thanks

How do you expect someone without a COI to be able to make this statement? Additionally, you need to disclose any WP:COI you may have as well. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 13:31, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Proactively reaching out to artist to obtain photo, especially in a small country like singapore, is not uncommon and not indicative of COI. However, i have no idea about how that user came about that comment, but i will leave that user to defend their own work. Furthermore, all the statements that that user had written was factual and properly sourced. I hope you can indicate in the talk page which are the portions that you disagree with, instead of constantly reverting the pages. Thank you!

No, the content I removed was either promotional and an attempt to fluff up the article (ie. the "grammy award winning" constantly being thrown in for no reason) and the rest was not sourced or sourced to content which is not reliable. I'll note you still haven't addressed the COI issue either. Please also sign your comments. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 13:42, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Perhaps my earlier attempts you might not have agreed with, but how about rqiang84's revision? I hope you can share specifically what are the parts you do not agree with so that it will make it easier for editors to understand your point of view. thanks.Iz55 (talk) 13:44, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

I explained it very clearly in my series of edit summaries in the history. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 13:47, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

I respectfully disagree. user rqiang84 in his/her version on 07:54, 10 May 2018 had written completely new content but you had reverted it with the comment that it is improperly sourced fluff. I wanted to highlight that this user's version of new content is not similar to the previous content that i had written and which you had also reverted. I understand we are both at an impasse but i hope you could at least look rqiang84's content over and share the insufficient parts in the talk part so that other editors can improve on it. I hope i am being respectful to you about this, you have "mad" in your username so don't wanna get into too much trouble with you :)Iz55 (talk) 13:56, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

I'll note, again, you haven't addressed the COI for yourself. What is your affiliation, if any? And as an example of one of the many issues here, can you explain how adding that someone she worked with is a grammy award winner and has worked with xyz is relevant to her? Notability is not inherited and this seems like a blatant attempt to pad the article to make her appear to be more notable than she actually is. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 14:00, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

I had addressed your comments in the talk pageIz55 (talk) 14:08, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

I am a fan of the subject, but as such, when you first tagged me as COI i had made a conscious attempt to ensure the neutrality of the article by searching out editors of other internet personalities in Singapore. I then reached out to all of them on their talk page (as also written in subject's talk page) and rqiang84 had responded. But you had still reverted rqiang84's content! I hope you can reconsider and make edits on his content instead.Iz55 (talk) 14:22, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

I hope you don't mind but i have posted a RFC. I think that will be the best way to move forward as i am sure you are busy too. Thanks so much for everything you're doing for WP. I recognise this is not personal and i respect what you are doing. Thanks so much once again. Please feel free to delete this section once you have read it. I will also stop coming to your talk page. Thanks so much!! Wish you the best Iz55 (talk) 15:30, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Dear Mdm User:Chrissymad,

I understood that you had suspected that I might have committed a conflict of interest, due to the specific updates I have done since I had already stepped in to help out with the article and reverted my revision yesterday, which I fully respected your decision.

Although I personally went as far as getting a photo (yet-to-be approved in wikicommons due to an issue) from Annette herself soon after I had completed my said revision on the article in order to simply represent the article of the said person, so that it would at least be displayed just like any other wiki articles which I and everyone had seen at the Wikipedia website, I would like to declare that I am neither a close friend nor a promoter to Ms Annette Lee. I am merely a contributor to Wikipedia and most recently as the approved person of her permitted photo to be uploaded to the wikicommons.

For this I greatly apologies for all the inconveniences and misunderstandings caused to the administrators at Wikipedia and Wikicommons.

I would like to discuss with you what can be at best done with the said article which currently having multiple issues, and would wished to hopefully revise it upon your request but under your supervision. Thank you Mdm. Rqiang84 (talk) 11:30, 11 May 2018 (GMT+8)

As a person with no connections to Ms. Lee, or Singapore, or comedy, or music, I removed content I felt was promotional and/or not relevant, for example, naming people she recorded with in Nashville. In my opinion, what remains is a neutral article about a notable person. If the photo permissions can meet Wikipedia's criteria, it will be a nice add. And then stop, at least for a while. David notMD (talk) 02:26, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Question about OTRS

Aren't we supposed to close tickets after we have properly responded to them? My dashboard shows 45 open tickets, and I saw that you responded successfully to many of them so I'm not sure why they're still showing up as Open tickets/need to be answered in the Dashboard. Please ping me when you answer. Thanks in advance. ^{Atsme📞📧} 14:53, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

Thanks for your message. I am unsure if I have reacted in the expected way, but I hope that the result has actually been helpful, and you have been an unexpected part of it. Sorry for the testing disruption. I hope you enjoy the new Huggle configuration and have a nice day. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:40, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

hello

I have created one page "Shri mamasaheb deshpande" but it has tagged for speed deletion. not clear why it have been done. I have given sufficient reference and no commercial links in that. not clear why it have been done. how to proceed in this regard? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yogesh dol (talk • contribs) 02:06, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Reversion of Sibelius (scorewriter) revisions

I have spent some days revising and improving this article, with many citations, and organising the material into sections. I have just noted that you have reverted all of this. The merges were the result of an AfD discussion re Save Sibelius, and I note this merge has also been reverted. Can you please go into detail as to why none of the edits are ok? Thank you. Chrisdevelop (talk) 18:44, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Because it was largely promotional and contained significant copyright violations. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 18:48, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Which copyrights were violated? Re 'promotional', the practice I have been used to is to signal the offending sections with {{advert}} rather than to delete the entire revision. Can you please point to the sections that were promotional? Chrisdevelop (talk) 18:56, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Review of Draft:Derek Williams (musician)

Thank you for reviewing my article on Derek Williams. While I appreciate you're still mid-review, most of the deletions you are making have now become un-undoable. For example, I note you have deleted his entire discography on the grounds that he entered all the credits on Discogs himself, however if you take a look through all 35 credits, not all are on Discogs, and you will find he entered only a few that had been missing from the catalogue. Moreover, there are many others credited on these albums, including the record companies themselves, and I have not seen any challenges made. The majority were not initiated by him, he is merely a contributor among other contributors, and those he did edit are also to be found on other catalogues such as CastAlbums, which were also listed in the Discography.

I notice you've also deleted numerous citations on the grounds that they're not directly about him, yet the full page story in the Rotorua Daily Post was entirely about him, in fact the article headline directly names him, so I am at a loss to know why that wasn't admissible in the background to his LGBT activism.

Re the Early Life part of the bio which you entirely deleted on the grounds that it was 'unsourced', as I understand it, facts such as which primary school the biographee went to don't all require to be sourced, as they're unlikely to be disputed, and it's nearly impossible to find a newspaper article about where a 5-18 year old child lived and went to school. Were that to be the case then the article would indeed become 'refbombed'. I also suggest that not every citation has to be directly about the individual, if it ties crucial facts together. For example, to place him in the White House, I had to first place the choir in the White House, and to do that, I had to go to Pat Nixon's diary for that day, and then to show from other sources that the Festival Choir Williams belonged to was there.

I added the section on his grandfather because Claud Williams himself was notable enough to have an entire chapter written about him as a notable explorer in the book Great Desert Explorers by Andrew Goudie, alongside a number of other books, and Derek Williams represented the Williams family not only at the Royal Geographical Society launch of his book, but in its research phase. He is also mentioned by name in the book acknowledgements, and in an independent review of the launch where he was the invited guest speaker, which was among the citations deleted. What I had been hoping for in the Review phase was helpful feedback, so I could make the fixes myself, and thereby avoid accidental deletions of items like the above. Chrisdevelop (talk) 21:02, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Request on 04:48:59, 15 May 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Hankag

• Hankag (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Taru Alexander (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi, I urgently need to find out why the submission has been rejected. Please could you provide me with specific points as to what I need to change? Thank you sincerely for your help.

Hankag (talk) 04:48, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

@Hankag: Hello! Your article was rejected as it was using large portions of copyrighted material from this website. Wikipedia does not directly copy/reproduce content - you must write it in your own words citing your sources. Hope this helps :). (talk page stalker) -- Dane ^talk 04:52, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

de:Henry (Name)

„Mit Werbung bombardieren“ → That is a really interesting translation :-). Sounds like Google ... thank you very much. Greetings from Munich, ‑‑mupa280868 (talk) 15:34, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Mupa280868 It was indeed - I don't speak a word of German so I googled "computer spam in German" hope it wasn't butchered too terribly! CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 15:35, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

You wrote something like “to bomb with advertising” (is that the correct noun?). „Werbe-Spam“ was the correct translation. Or just write in english, most of us understand this. Thank you again :-), ‑‑mupa280868 (talk) 15:43, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

19:38:19, 15 May 2018 review of submission by Vogelsillum

• Vogelsillum (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Maurits Smeyers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Vogelsillum (talk) 19:38, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello Chrissymad. I don't understand why you declined the article 'maurice smeyers'. Can you please explain? Because this text is approved by the Dutch Wikipedia, and appears in several art historical encyclopedia (which are neutral)

Vogelsillum It is not neutral. It doesn't matter that it appears in other languages as all projects do not have the same criteria. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 19:39, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Ryan Wilson (poet}

Thanks for looking at the article. I'm not sure what the problem was where you added the {{citation needed}} in this edit, but the quotes are definitely in the source cited (http://www.literarymatters.org/ryan-wilson-our-editor/). Let me know if I've misunderstood your intent there. --RexxS (talk) 18:45, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

RexxS As I responded on the TP, yeah you've misunderstood. Clearly it's stated there but it's a primary source, on his own companies website about him being praised by someone. It's the equivalent of me saying "Chrissymad is brilliantly witty" said Jesus H Christ, award winning director and then linking back to my own website that quotes it. Find the actual source. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 18:47, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

It's not a primary source. Biographies are almost never primary because they collect together previously published material, which is how we define a secondary source. It's not his company. He merely works for the Association of Literary Scholars, Critics, and Writers, which is a reputable, notable publisher. Your webpage doesn't have a Wikipedia article, which is where the analogy breaks down. --RexxS (talk) 19:04, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

It's published on his own companies terribly laid out website with no source for it. I fail to see why you can't provide an actual source for the statement praising his work outside of his own website.? CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 19:11, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

The aesthetic of the Literary Matters website isn't for you or me to comment on, nor does it affect its reliability one jot. May I assume you'd be happier with the parent institution's website at http://alscw.org/publications/literary-matters/ ? I fail to see why I need to find the primary sources quoted by a reliable secondary source. If you don't agree that Literary Matters is a reliable source for its information about Wilson, it would probably be best to raise the issue at WP:RSN, where it could receive other opinions. --RexxS (talk) 19:23, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Just a (talk page stalker) note:​ given their status as literary reviewers (i.e. they have Wikipedia pages) and the reliability of the source Chrissymad is contesting, I'm not so much concerned if they said it, but the question that immediately comes to mind is "where did Jarman and Pinsky say these really nice things?" In that aspect, Chrissymad does have a point, because I could say that Neil deGrasse Tyson reviewed my physics article and found it groundbreaking, but if there is no "primary" location for that comment, do we really know it was said? Is it just citogenesis?

I guess my point is that the references raise more questions than they ask. On the other hand, I don't think either of those glowing reviews is really necessary to include in the article, but it's not necessarily a hill I'm going to die on. Primefac (talk) 13:01, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

So what I'm hearing is a cite to a source where they say this would be extraordinarily nice.-- Dlohcierekim (talk) 13:29, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

I agree with much of what you say, Primefac, and remembering that I didn't write Wilson's article (I just copied it out of Ottava Rima's talk page for him), I wouldn't have chosen to include those quotes either – I would have summarised. You would really have to ask Ottava where the original quotes were made, assuming he looked at the originals, rather than relied on the ALSCW to be accurate. Nevertheless, I still think that some notable poets praising Wilson is noteworthy in the article; and because Wilson is only borderline notable, IMHO, that reference is valuable to indicate notability. --RexxS (talk) 13:36, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Hey, thanks

Showing my appreciation for looking out for me. He's starting to get quite annoying, and his behavior is rather...bizarre. But I don't let him get to me much. Thanks for sticking up for a guy who was too lazy to report him. He gave me a barnstar the other day, and I honestly couldn't tell if he was being sincere or not. Guess not. Then today he touched my userpage and went to report him only to find he was blocked already. He keeps spamming the Metallica logo I have in my userpage to the band's talk page, too. How strange. Wonder why he goes after me...maybe because I can correctly identify him? Anyway, thanks a bunch. dannymusiceditor ^oops 14:25, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

DannyMusicEditor No worries. And for what it's worth if you ever get a barn star from a new user it's probably a safe bet they're a sock. ;) CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 14:26, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Kastus Technologies declined

Hi Chrissymad, I've just seen that you have declined an article I've authored on Kastus Technologies on the basis that its sources lack notability. The note left on the page stated that "Wikipedia requires significant coverage (not just mere mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject". At the minute, I'm struggling to see how the sources fail to meet these criteria. There has been significant coverage of the topic across nearly every major Irish print newspaper, which themselves are reliable and secondary sources. There is also a scientific journal, which is an independent peer-reviewed journal verifying the properties of Kastus' product. Other sources include articles published by DIT, Ireland's largest Insititute of Technology. If these sources aren't suitable enough, then please help me by letting me know what is. Thanks for any help you can give me. Caileam Raleigh (talk) 13:05, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Caileam Raleigh: Many of the sources used in the article appear to be just press releases from the company, or an interview with Browne. Is there any coverage that wasn't generated by the company? Even the report in nature.com has Browne as one of its authors. Wikipedia looks for other third parties to have actively noticed a company, which is what our notability policy is aiming for. I ought to add that the report does not meet WP:MEDRS, so can't be used to support claims of efficacy for the product. You won't be able to claim that "Kastus’ Log4+ product is proven to eradicate the growth of 99.99% of harmful bacteria ..." without a decent secondary medical source. Hope that helps. --RexxS (talk) 13:55, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

@RexxS: Hi, the sources listed are independent of the company and not press releases. As for the Nature article, John Browne is listed as an author as he provided assistance in developing the microbial testing and providing materials preparation during the actual experiment as it states at the bottom, however he did not author any of the article. For an article to be published by Nature.com, it must be independently peer reviewed. Caileam Raleigh (talk) 14:59, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

@Caileam Raleigh: They simply don't look like independent coverage: they look like the sort of stuff a PR company feeds to news media (what we call "churnalism"). That is why reviewers are asking for "published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject". I also strongly recommend you read Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources (medicine) because you don't seem to understand the difference between "peer-reviewed" and "secondary" sources. --RexxS (talk) 15:07, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

@RexxS: One of the news sources listed is RTE, the state broadcaster in Ireland, which obviously would not accept PR sourced articles. However, I understand your hesitance over the other sources but they are simply not PR articles. The subject of this article has made quite a splash in Ireland with the potential implications that its product might have for a vast array of areas and this can be verified by reading the company's profile of the Enterprise Ireland website (a government body overseeing business in Ireland) and Dublin Institute of Technology's website. I have had a look at the Identifying Sources page and I do not see how I have breached any of its guidelines. Also, as a journalism graduate, I am well aware of what churnalism is.

Caileam Raleigh I'm sorry but several editors disagree with you and the AfD combined with the multiple declines by multiple editors indicates to me that the issues haven't been adequately addressed as appropriate sourcing doesn't appear to exist. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 15:32, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Baltimore City Council District 1

Hello, Chrissymad. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Baltimore City Council District 1".

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Legacypac (talk) 08:25, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

10:46:37, 19 May 2018 review of submission by Louis Larnas

• Louis Larnas (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Pierre de Lauzun (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

RE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Pierre_de_Lauzun

Please let me know what specific references on 'Draft Pierre de Lauzun' are not adequate. This is a translation from the French Wikipedia; All references comme from there.
Thank you in anticipation

Louis Larnas Louis Larnas (talk) 10:46, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

List ow wars involving Turkey

The reference is the article itself Cyprus crisis (1955–64). Check the article. Jazz1972 (talk) 18:21, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Jazz1972 You cannot use Wikipedia as a reference, ever. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 18:23, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

The article is saying something. What is the artcile is saying? The same apply to the list of wars involving Cyprus that you have changed. I can add all the reference of the article. However the articles are to be in harmony between them, in the first placeJazz1972 (talk) 18:30, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Then cite it with a reliable source. You cannot use wikipedia as a source. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 18:32, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

You need to do it now, since you have changed it already 2 times and I can not change it, a third time in a row, in a short period of time, since then you can accuse me for edit war. It is very simple. We shouldn't even having this discussion. The article is saying something and is properly referenced. All articles in relation with it, should be in harmony with thatJazz1972 (talk) 18:36, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Jazz1972 No, the WP:ONUS is on you since you are readding contested content by several users and citing a source which is not appropriate. You got yourself into an edit war with several editors by adding unreliable sources and not discussing it. Wikipedia can not be used as a source. I'm glad to see that you know you are edit-warring but just because 24 hours may lapse does not mean you can revert it. You either need to discuss it on the talk page and find a reliable source or leave it alone. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 18:39, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

The source is appropriate, since it is the article itself. Find me any other war in the articles that you are constanlty changing, that are based in any other references outside of the articles. Which are the several editors and how is an edit war since I haven't passed the limit.? How you can changed it with out talking it in the talk page? Who is reverting my edits and how this is excused? I will revert it on my own time with 5 proper sources, and then we will be discussing it in the board.Jazz1972 (talk) 18:57, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Jazz1972 You're free to restore it provided at the time you do so you have the appropriate sources referenced in your edit. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 18:58, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Jazz1972, it does not matter if the source is in another article. Each article must be self-supported by it's own references. If you have reliable sources to support the content you are trying to add, that's great. At this point, you should post them, and the content you are trying to add, to the talk page of the article so other editors can look them over. This way, the edit war will not continue. Waggie (talk) 19:04, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

16:40:13, 22 May 2018 review of submission by Dr S Black

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  • Draft:European Association for Studies in Screen Translation (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi there! Thanks for reviewing my article. Could you please indicate which parts of it read like an advertisement so that I can amend it? I have read it so many times now, and I edited it after it was rejected the first time, but to no avail. All I can see are facts that I have stated about the organisation, and I can't see where I have gone wrong. This is my first time writing an article for Wikipedia, so I would really appreciate more specific guidance on what to change, as I am now at a loss as to what to do next. Many thanks! Dr S Black (talk) 16:40, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

19:44:33, 22 May 2018 review of submission by DJKlypso

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  • Draft:Klypso (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello. I am a very green wikipedia user! I have made some edits to the submission in hopes that it will read more objectively. After reading your review I can understand why it was rejected. I am also looking for more reference links but it is difficult to find information online as many of Klypso's career milestones occurred before the great social media wave. Do you have any other suggestions? Wikipedia can be a great tool and I am hoping to learn more about the submission process. Thank you for your help.

DJKlypso (talk) 19:44, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

EnterMedia DB

Hello Chrissymad, I have been trying very hard to keep EnterMedia DB as an article but you deleted it. I have asked for help and I get no advice except criticisms and I would like help. Please let me know how I can edit the article so Wikipedia can grow. And how do I get access to my article again? I can't even edit it now. Please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcambron (talk • contribs) 15:58, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Juventutem

Hello Chrissymad,

You wrote "Hello, I'm Chrissymad. I noticed that you made one or more changes to an article, Juventutem, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so!"

Yes, it is true. I made 40(?) changes to this article, updating Juventutem's article on Juventutem's birthday. I am not sure which change you're saying lack a "reliable source." If you want to identify that change here, I'm glad to add in a reliable source for that change. Otherwise, I'm just going to revert the whole article to its corrected form.

GiovanniBosco (talk) 18:28, 24 May 2018 (UTC)GiovanniBosco

GiovanniBosco Adding lists of Facebook links is not encyclopedic. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 18:29, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

The lists of Facebook links were pre-existing. Look at the history. As of yesterday, there was a list of Facebook links that was largely out-of-date. I have updated the entry to include a list of websites (including Facebook links) that is more up-to-date.

GiovanniBosco (talk) 18:42, 24 May 2018 (UTC)GiovanniBosco

There should be one external link to their website, not a list of FB. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 18:44, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Your reversion made the entry worse, not better. It is "encyclopedic" (vis. "the ordered presentation of all information") to point the Wikipedia user to all of the various teams that are carrying out Juventutem activities. The resource that you linked to ("Help:Referencing for beginners") does not offer any contrary definition of "encyclopedic."

GiovanniBosco (talk) 18:55, 24 May 2018 (UTC)GiovanniBosco

GiovanniBosco Actually it wasn't and it was copied directly from their website. Please also review WP:COI. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 18:58, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

... any way, have a nice day. Whether there are lists or not, your reversion still undoes the other grammatical corrections and updates that I had entered.

GiovanniBosco (talk) 19:22, 24 May 2018 (UTC)GiovanniBosco

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Raymond Neutra Draft

Thanks for the feedback. I edited the wording and resubmitted. This is my first Wikipedia article, and would appreciate any additional feedback to have it ready for publication. Jsbmhca 717 (talk) 19:20, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Yasser Elshantaf updates

Hello CHRISSY, the changes I made at Yasser Elshantaf are updated and correct, I don't understand why you canceled !! I through that you canceled by mistake. I would be thankful if you could explain this to me. Than you in advance. Mediterranean-Sea (talk) 16:58, 27 May 2018 (UTC)