User talk:Peter Damian/ACE2015

Abomination link

You say Keilana was "involved in this abomination" with a link to some horrible YouTube talkie-talkie that's really hard to follow. Is that the most helpful link you can offer for the abomination? (Not the RFC, thanks.) My monster is trying to figure out whether or not to support Keilana in her own voter guide. Bishonen | talk 21:43, 17 November 2015 (UTC).

PS. I tried to learn to use Visual Editor, but I found it so difficult. A problem with my head, presumably. Bishonen | talk 21:46, 17 November 2015 (UTC).

On sorta the same subject - are there diffs for the rest of the quotes you have in Keilana's section? They concern me, but I'd like to see the context if possible. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:59, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you both. I have edited the guide to make it clear that the 'diffs' were actually a transcription from the 'abomination', i.e. the interview with Andrew Lih. I shall check the transcription again.

Done. Transcription made, and linked to in the guide. Peter Damian (talk) 19:04, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you very much, useful transcription. The talking seemed to go on for ever, I really couldn't take it — low boredom threshold these days. Bishonen | talk 21:16, 19 November 2015 (UTC).

Not that it matters much, but...

I would humbly submit that you really, really need to look a tad more closely at Hullaballoo Wolfowitz's record here on Wikipedia before endorsing him for such a high position as ArbCom. Guy1890 (talk) 01:13, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, please note my question here, which asks "Is there anything bad we need to know about?" The name rings a sort of bell, but wasn't sure if I was confusing with the other Wolfowitz (Kiefer). Perhaps I should erase the 'support' until confirmed. Peter Damian (talk) 17:33, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

I don't know that I could concisely sum up a general set of observations of this user's long-time Wikipedia behavior much better than Tryptofish (who I've not had dealings with personally BTW) did in their voting guide.

The details of Mr. Wolfowitz's most recent block are basically located here. He's basically a textbook version of a "BLP zealot" who operates under his own set of extremely strict rules that are his way or the highway. Edit warring, Wikistalking, Wiki-bullying, reversion without discussion...you name it...he skated away with it over a long period of time on Wikipedia - mostly because the editors that have generally complained about that behavior in the past haven't been entirely clean themselves, so far. It's all well documented in the AN/I & RfC/U archives for anyone to see.

To be fair to him (not that he deserves it), he & I have butted heads in the past in a subject area that he personally has hated over a long time, while he himself has made some constructive (if not overly inclusive behavior, maybe to a fault, at AfD) in another subject area that he personally loves. In the parlance of today's young, American culture, "If Hullaballoo Wolfowitz makes it onto ArbCom, we riot."  ;) Guy1890 (talk) 04:25, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

OK thanks, but what kind of BLP zealot? There are two kinds: the first want any kind of material, however damaging or malicious or one-sided, to remain in the BLP, the other kind want to remove absolutely everything. This is important. Peter Damian (talk) 09:13, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Since I dug it up for myself Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Hullaballoo Wolfowitz. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:03, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. Peter Damian (talk) 18:35, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

• In an instance of voter-guide cross-fertilization, Bishzilla has now advised opposing HW with reference to this link, which was provided by Guy1890 above. Thank you, Guy, and 1890, really? Astounding. I mean, I can remember when I dedicated my Jane Eyre to Mr Thackeray, but I thought that was sort of exceptional. How old is the world's oldest person again? Bishonen | talk 18:47, 20 November 2015 (UTC).
  • Well I thought it was rather admirably and curmudgeonly so moving to definite support. Peter Damian (talk) 19:45, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

LOL...the idea that anyone would find BLP zealotry to be "good" is quite humorous indeed...ugh... Guy1890 (talk) 21:35, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

My position is broadly here. Peter Damian (talk) 11:29, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Insider

Your comments on me leave me wondering: too much of an insider to what? GorillaWarfare (talk) 11:03, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

I mean you can come across as the kind of person who has wanted to gain power on Wikipedia ever since they joined - in yours and Keilana's case, joined at such early age that you may find it difficult to understand life before Wikipedia, or to understand that there is life outside Wikipedia. I may be wrong. E.g. stuff like this

"Hi, I'm GorillaWarfare and am hoping to receive some coaching to become an admin. If you'd like to coach me, please leave a message on my talk page. You can see my edit count here but don't be surprised when you see that I have 25 edits. That is because I recently forgot the password to my old account, User:Theunicyclegirl. Here is my edit count from my old account. I almost have 2000 edits. I frequently revert vandalism by watching Lupin's filtered RCs. I also like to expand stubs, particularly those relating to cats or dogs. I am very good with user warning templates and speedy deletion templates. I sometimes respond on AFD. Thanks for considering me! … I have two main questions: 1.Do I look like I could pass RfA right now? 2.If not or if you're unsure, what can I do to strengthen my request?" And a bunch of others.

Peter Damian (talk) 18:34, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining. GorillaWarfare (talk) 21:10, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

• You say "Hangs out on IRC. Too much of an insider for my liking.", yet the verdict is ... Would you clarify your position on this candidate, please, @Peter Damian:? Thank you. 173.87.173.203 (talk) 23:17, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Possibly I made a mistake and need to change the verdict? That's my working hypothesis. Thanks Peter Damian (talk) 19:21, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
    • Thank you for clarifying. :^) 173.87.173.203 (talk) 18:01, 26 November 2015 (UTC)