User talk:PPEMES/Archives/2018/May

Latest comment: 5 years ago by Chicbyaccident in topic Speedy renaming categories

Benkenobi again

I reverted as many of his changes as possible. However, he made a couple of name changes on lists as well that probably require some Admin intervention. Could you have a look? Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:03, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

@Laurel Lodged: Please consider addressing your issue at the specific talk page in question for clarity. Chicbyaccident (talk) 10:21, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Merger discussion for List of Masonic buildings in the United States

 

An article that you have been involved in editing—List of Masonic buildings in the United States —has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Doncram (talk) 17:23, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi, you contributed to similar List of Odd Fellows buildings where the same question may apply. Your participation would be welcomed. --Doncram (talk) 17:23, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Speedy renaming categories

Hi Chicbyaccident

I was looking at your latest nominations[1] at WP:CFDS and wondered something.

It's 3 months since I pointed out to you[2] that WP:CFDS is for proposals which meet one or more of the speedy criteria. Other editors have reminded you several times since, and all this time the speedy criteria section of the page has said "the category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to" C2A/C2B/C2C/C2D/C2E.

So why do you keep on making speedy nominations which cite none of those criteria?

It's not a good use of your time, or of anyone else's. As I noted[3] at WP:CFDS, it is becoming tendentious. If it continues, then somewhere down the line someone will say "enough" and seek sanctions. I hope it doesn't come to that. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:19, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

@BrownHairedGirl: By mistake. Thanks for pointing that out. Please feel free to consider assuming the good faith that is assumed of yours. Chicbyaccident (talk) 15:23, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
When the same thing happens again and again despite repeated reminders, assuming good faith becomes less and less easy. Even so, you can see above that I made no assumptions about reasons for the WP:IDHT, and just asked why.
Anyway, if those nominations were indeed a mistake, then please demonstrate your good faith by withdrawing them: untag the categories and remove the listings from WP:CFDS. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:59, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
They seem already moved out of active nominations. However, for the record per your request, they have now been correctly motivated with proper critera: the same criteria that Armbrust helpingly pointed out but which was opposed. For the tagging of proposed categories, is there not any robot that tends to these after opposition in the nomination process or are nominees expected to manually retrieve those tags? Sorry for my ignorance in this matter. Chicbyaccident (talk) 16:26, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
Yes, I moved them to the "opposed" section. My point was that if the noms were a mistake you should remove them from the page. (No, there is no bot to do this; it is one of the many clerical tasks done by admins if editors don't clean up their own mistaes).
I see that you amended the nominations.[4] However you did so without leaving any indication of the change. Per WP:REDACT, you should use <s>...</s> or <del>...</del> to mark text you have deleted, and inserted text should marked with <u>...</u> or <ins>...</ins>. Making changes without that markup makes a nonsense of replies to your nom, so I have reverted your edit. That markup may be a bit confusing; if so, the easiest way to is just to post a new reply explaining the revised rationale.
The revised rationale you posted was simply "C2B". You'd need to explain why you think C2B applies: what category naming convention is involved? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:44, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, too technical for my level and ambition here. Thank you. Chicbyaccident (talk) 23:57, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

I have unlisted[5] the opposed nominations as stale. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:04, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
Very well, thank you! Chicbyaccident (talk) 13:51, 24 May 2018 (UTC)