Onlineone22

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Hello Onlineone22, welcome to Wikipedia! My name is Liance, and I've been editing here for a while. I wanted to thank you for submitting Draft:2024 Ohio State University pro-Palestine campus protests to WikiProject Articles for Creation and helping to grow the encyclopedia! We appreciate your contributions and hope you stick around. I can see you've already started writing draft articles, so here are a few more resources that might be helpful:

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Atlantic306 (talk) 21:15, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Ways to improve 2024 Ohio State University pro-Palestine campus protests

Hello, Onlineone22,

Thank you for creating 2024 Ohio State University pro-Palestine campus protests.

I have tagged the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:

Hi, you've added a lot of unreferenced content. Please either reference it all or remove the unreferenced parts.

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Atlantic306 (talk) 18:44, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

@Atlantic306:

Thank you for your comment! I ensured that all of the content included in the article has references linked in their corresponding sections. That said, I will work on making these references more organized so as not to wrongly appear to be unreferenced, and I will leave a follow-up comment once I am finished so that you can let me know whether my changes are sufficient!

Onlineone22 (talk) 19:51, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

@Atlantic306:

I've rearranged some of my references, including of the amount of students arrested.

Could you please let me know where, specifically, you believe there is unreferenced content on the article (or, alternatively, add "citation needed" to the parts that you believe are unreferenced?)

Thank you! Onlineone22 (talk) 07:07, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi, have added citation needed tags. It is particularly necessary to have a reference after a quote. I know this is a bit laborious but it really improves the article and deters editors from gutting or rewriting it, regards Atlantic306 (talk) 21:29, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

@Atlantic306:

Much appreciated, I'll get on this today. Thank you! Onlineone22 (talk) 22:17, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

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Happy editing! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:06, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

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ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:06, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, I should have known about that, regards Atlantic306 (talk) 18:22, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Ah

I see you just removed it, but yeah, not a good idea to do that, that would be canvassing and would just make things worse. – 2804:F1...54:15BE (talk) 03:03, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

What are you talking about?

Onlineone22 (talk) 03:06, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

This, that you removed: Special:Diff/1229309605. Also to clarify, I'm just a passing-by IP editor, who saw that post. – 2804:F1...54:15BE (talk) 03:10, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Ah sorry, I just wanted to update that point because I felt like that part of my comment was a bit redundant or unproductive after further analysis. I wasn't trying to misrepresent the conversation.

Onlineone22 (talk) 22:10, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Oh no, removing it was good, I meant that asking people to go help your side in a discussion is canvassing. – 2804:F1...87:A818 (talk) 19:08, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Odd situation

.... related to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United States#‎Requesting assistance editing Ohio State University protest article.. Basically we have an editor who created an article who's no longer able to edit it due to increased protection level. Is there a possibility to allow them to edit the article they create for us all.... to continue their positive contributions to it....thus avoiding time wasting for other editors responding to requests..... So

far see nothing but positive contributions related to the article by this editor.Moxy🍁 20:51, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

The editor is free to ask for the necessary permission to edit the article at WP:PERM; community support such as yourself would probably help. They can also ask for the protection level to be reduced at WP:RFPP, unless it's clear that it is necessary. 331dot (talk) 07:53, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

@Moxy, I appreciate your help!!

Unfortunately, I attempted to regain permissions by making a request in the extended confirmed requests page, but despite thinking I'm a good faith actor, they shot me down for arbitrary bureaucratic reasons:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_permissions/Extended_confirmed&diff=prev&oldid=1229224752

I worry about future vandalism on the article, so I would like to ensure the protection level is kept at its current state. If there's another way I could go about gaining permission to edit the article, (@331dot, I'd be very appreciative of other suggestions) then I am certainly all ears.

@Moxy, I will add edit requests to the page in the meantime. Thank you very much for your help.

Onlineone22 (talk) 09:43, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

I don't think that it was arbitrary or bureaucratic. The people who hand out permissions(such as me, although I rarely do so as it's not a focus area for me) have to consider the effects of their actions on the project.

I didn't know what article you had created- I assume that as a relatively new user you weren't aware of the restrictions around editing about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict when you created your draft. (I see you were notified later) That was fine, but now you know, and you'll need to abide by them. I think edit requests are your way forward. Technically you could puruse your request for EC permission further, but it would probably take awhile, draw your focus away from making edit requests, and in the end either 1) probably not be successful or 2) you'll have gained extended-confirmed organically through your edits/time passed. 331dot (talk) 13:05, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Hey @331dot,

Thank you for your reply! Sorry for calling it arbitrary and bureaucratic. You are probably right that these are not the right words to use—I've just been a bit disheartened by the whole situation since it's made it so difficult for me to make much-needed updates to the article.

• How could I pursue my request for EC permission further? I was shut down when I attempted to prolong the conversation after receiving my initial rejection.
• As someone who hands out permissions, what do you think my best approach is in terms of talking points if I want to persuade other admins to grant me early EC permissions?
• Being someone who hands out permissions, is there any set of conditions that, given I agree to abide by them, would open you up to the possibility of granting me early EC perms?

Thanks again for your time.

Onlineone22 (talk) 16:31, 22 June 2024 (UTC)