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I also took a moment to create a (very basic) user page for you; of course, you can change it to say whatever you want.

I'm also looking into the protocol for getting all your contributions made as an anonymous user credited to your registered account.

DS 13:44, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

The old comments

Oh, and since you were wondering where they went, the messages you got as an anonymous user are here. DS 13:46, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Anders Jahan Retzius

I noticed that you posted an article at Andreas Johann Retzius. There was already an article at Anders Jahan Retzius, but that page contains almost nothing. Anders Jahan Retzius is the correct form of his name according to the biography in the standard work Svenskt biografiskt lexikon ("Andreas Johann" looks like it was taken from some German work, but Retzius also used the somewhat unusual Jahan instead of the common Swedish form Johan). You could perhaps move your content to the older article and make the new title a redirect. I could do it myself, but it is better if you do it, as you will get credit for the edit in the page history. Cheers. Uppland 14:44, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Timeline of Entomology

Hi. Most of the people on this page are also at Category:Entomologists, and those that aren't probably should be. I'm sure I must have missed a few though. Cheers. Smallweed 08:20, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Foresnsic Entomology

I completely forgot I did that. I was intending to replace that with something less...list-y. Thanks for replacing it. DuctapeDaredevil 16:40, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Maria Sibylla Merian & Maria Sybilla Merian

You're right, these two articles do need merging, and I'm sure you'd make a better job of it than me. Cheers Smallweed 16:40, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Both articles said essentially the same thing, so it wasn't a complicated merge. Good to know other people keep an eye on these articles too. Keep up the good work. Cheers! -- Rune Welsh | ταλκ | Esperanza 14:33, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Cheese fly

What does "The best available keys are in..." mean? Could you rephrase it in a way that is more understandable to laypeople, and that doesn't imply a POV preference ("the best" is a judgement call, right?) —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 16:01, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Ulster Museum

Wouldn't it be better to merge Ulster Museum (Natural History) into the Ulster Museum space as a section; it seems odd to have a whole article for one part of the museum? Notjim 09:29, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Great - If no one else does it I'll try and rebalance the article next week with more on the art section and a bit on history! BTW thanks for all your work subcatting the Northern Irish artists. Notjim 14:33, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Nees

Hi Notafly, I don't know how to delete the duplicated article. Here in Brazil it is sunny. Cheers! Berton 13:42, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Collaboration

Hello,

My english isn't perfect ! I'm very happy to read your message on my page. I make a thesis about the place of invertebrates in the human society.

Your timeline is very interesting and I would like to improve the french version (actually is too poor). I will translate probably your two articles on Hermann Loew et Camillo Róndani (I correct his name Rondani -> Róndani, see Cesare Conci et Roberto Poggi (1996), Iconography of Italian Entomologists, with essential biographical data. Memorie della Società entomologica Italiana, 75 : 159-382).

I will be to work with you on the history of entomology. If I can to help you, don't hesitate ! Best regards.--Valérie75 12:21, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Looking for

Hi, was wondering if you might have something about R. Senior-White who wrote several volumes of the Fauna of British India Diptera series. Thanks Shyamal 03:50, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. I look forward to reading your article on him. Shyamal 09:20, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Also interested in Col. C. T. Bingham. We are using many of his descriptions on a number of lepidoptera pages. He wrote on Hymenoptera as well as Lepidoptera and has several species named after him. Wonder if you have info on him as well. Thanks. Shyamal 05:15, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the Bingham page. Very interesting ! Shyamal 05:03, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I had missed your comments until now for you had added them into archived pages. Thanks for the additions to Fauna of British India. That is incomplete and still in a bit of a mess, but strangely I don't seem to find anyone who has a fuller list of the volumes than that. I also need some bit on the origin and history of that work. Why were these huge works undertaken for instance ? I have a growing timeline of sorts in free text form on Indian natural history where you may find some other interesting folks. Also do take a look at Gasterophilinae and perhaps you will have more on Cobboldia Shyamal 11:17, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Imms

What do we have on A D Imms ? Shyamal 08:08, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Blow-fly

I added a comment to the Blow-fly talk page regarding your edits made in Jan 2006. I was wondering what you meant by "South" as it seems ambiguous. --Chris Wood 16:34, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Valentine Ball

Hi ! I noticed that Valentine Ball was consistently marked as Valentina Ball in the categories. Is that intended ? Shyamal 11:18, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

William (Blandell / Blundell) Spence

Greetings!

I have been reading your article on William Blandell Spence with interest, but am uncertain of this person's history and relationship to William Spence (entomologist). I believe that the entomologist was father to "Blandell", and it further seems to me that "Blandell" might be a typographic error for "Blundell", but I don't know.

William Blundell Spence was born in Yorkshire (Jan 13, 1814) and lived in Florence, with birth and death dates similar to those cited for "Blandell", and was the son of William Spence (entomologist). However, he was an art collector rather than entomologist.

I don't know exactly what the facts are here, but it does seem like the relationship between father and son should be straightened out. As for the names, and actual identifies, of Blandell & Blundell, well, I don't have good enough reference materials to sort this out.

Cheers & thanks for some good entomological articles!

Daderot 14:45, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Lionel de Nicéville

This bio article has not grown in a long while. Perhaps you will have more. Apparently all three of the major butterfly workers in India died before they could complete all their works - Frederic Moore, Niceville, and C. T. Bingham (in that order). Shyamal 15:34, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Wonderful. Thanks from a cool southern Indian evening. Shyamal 14:42, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

An essay on the classification of the parasitic Hymenoptera

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John Robert Kinahan

I deleted this, as you requested. Tom Harrison ^Talk 15:18, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Charles Donovan

Maybe of interest. Shyamal 13:33, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Great ! I know this may be a little too much to ask but would it perhaps be possible to add photographs of specimens from the collections. I don't think many of us will ever get to see these historic specimens ever in their exoskeletons. Cheers. Shyamal 10:13, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

I sent out a mail to your mailid at magni.org.uk. With best wishes from a warm sunny India. Shyamal 10:54, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Images

The images sent so far have gone in the following forms. Please feel free to edit the credits to read right or let me know and I will make any needed changes. Let me see if I can trace the names and identities. My mailbox will not be easy to clog up. Shyamal 14:42, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

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  Acraea terpsicore
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  Neptis jumbah
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  Neptis hylas ?
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  Pantoporia hordonia
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Seitz

Cannot say no to any offer, but on the other hand I realize the magnitude of the work involved. You may want to put out your offer on Wikipedia:WikiProject_Lepidoptera or to choose representative articles for instance family level or tribe level articles. For instance we have no Baronia (Baroniinae) images. My own pet species are restricted to South Asia and the closest to completion is List_of_butterflies_of_India_(Papilionidae) and many of those species need better illustrations. Many thanks. Shyamal 04:37, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Images added

Those are incredible and do I wish I worked for a museum ! Parnassius imperator, Parnassius epaphus. Please do click on the images and follow them into wikimedia commons and check if the credits are correct. I have put them on Creative Commons by Attribution 2.5 Shyamal 09:30, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Also added Image:Templeton_watercolour_ulster.jpg to Robert Templeton. Shyamal 09:41, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

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  Ornithoptera alexandrae
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  Parnassius hunnyngtoni
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  Papilio zalmoxis
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  Bhutanitis thaidina
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  Parnassius clodius
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  Parnassius mnemosyne
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  Papilio homerus
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  Parnassius charltonius female
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  Parnassius charltonius male
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  Parnassius jacquemontii
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  Parnassius imperator
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  Parnassius epaphus
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  Archon apollinus
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  Papilio arcturus
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  Meandrusa payeni
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  Curt Eisner
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  Francis Walker

Here is the updated set Shyamal 04:17, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

It is indeed P. hannyngtoni according to LepIndex.[1] Shyamal 10:26, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

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  Parnassius hunza
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  Parnassius stoliczkanus nicevilli
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  Parnassius stoliczkanus atkinsonii
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  Parnassius tenedius
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  Parnassius maharaja
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  Plate from John Curtis' Farm Insects
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  John Curtis plate
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  Macquart plate
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  Female A. apollinus Beirut
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  Male A. apollinus Beirut
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  A. apollinus amasina
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  A. apollinus krystallina

The new set. Shyamal 15:38, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Grigorii Efimovich Grumm-Grshimailo (1860—1936)

Hi Robert, This has a different name expansion. http://www.lepidopterology.com/almanac/gr_gr.htm Shyamal 09:06, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Just happened to see your edit at that time. I have some Indian entomologists on the todo list - Mahadeva Subramania Mani, T V Ramakrishna Iyer, T N Ananthakrishnan, Hem Singh Pruthi, M L Roonwal, L. C. Coleman (was one of the founders of the entomology department where I studied), I have already done a bit on Maxwell-Lefroy, T B Fletcher and some others. Not much info on Japanese entomologists I am afraid. G-G in cyrillic would follow soon through interwiki links I expect. a hot and sunny day. cheers Shyamal 10:17, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

It is Г.Е. Грумм-Гржимайло. Shyamal 10:34, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

M. E. G-G was the brother (an army officer ?) of G. E. G-G. I have moved the article and used initials to avoid the trouble with the variable spellings. Shyamal 04:03, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject France

Hello! We are a group of editors working to improve the quality of France related articles. You look like someone who might be interested in joining us in the France WikiProject and so I thought I'd drop you a line and invite you! We'd love to have you in our project :-) STTW (talk) 20:28, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

It is very easy to move images to commons using http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/commonshelper.php?interface=fr

Also your english is good try writing Gallica first, if you have problems then I would help you. STTW (talk) 19:17, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

A big thank you !

A unique butterfly Barnstar to User:Notafly for the images of historic Parnassius specimens from remote regions and bygone eras.

Barnstar

Thankyou.It is a pleasure to share Peebles wonderful collection. Anyone who has worked in high mountain regions will have met the guides. So a big thankyou too to these amazing men.Notafly

New set

The new set is uploaded.

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  Ornithoptera priamus
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  Ornithoptera priamus
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  Papilio alcmenor
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  Ornithoptera croesus
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  Papilio peranthus
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  Papilio semperi
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  Papilio semperi
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  Papilio annae
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  Papilio blumei
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  Papilio daedalus
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  Parnassius epaphus abruptus
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  Parnassius hardwickii
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  Troides criton
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  Troides magellanus
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  Parnassius bremeri
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  Parnassius actius

Cheers ! Shyamal 13:12, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Image problems

Hi Robert. The image in Parantica aspasia was easy to fix. The empty image_caption and image_width tags were causing the trouble. The rest is fine, but, the image you uploaded on commons is missing the most important information on licensing. You need to choose the licensing on the drop down and fill the information using the template given with description, date, author and licensing where you add cc-by-2.5 if you choose creative commons by attribution 2.5 in the dropdown options. Shyamal 10:47, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

I added the required info into the commons page for the image. Shyamal 10:49, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Thomas Oldham

Any info on this man. Not an entomologist, but a lot of paleontology and geology works. Little known about him. Shyamal 04:14, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, found some fair amount of info and improved the article. Shyamal 05:16, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Bhutan Glory

Stunning even with its age. Off into the field for two weeks, hope to be back with more live insect images from the Western Ghats. Warm, cloudy, pleasant weather - just the weather to be out in the outdoors. cheers Shyamal 10:25, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Western Ghats

Have a good trip.Looking forward to photos.Good "shooting" RobertNotafly

William Kirby picture

Nice work finding that excellent Kirby image by Spence! It's a gem. Cheers, Dr Steven Plunkett 03:10, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

new images

Dear Robert. Back. Saw the large numbers of images that you have added. Have created some cleaned up derivatives of some of the Seitz images. The source information for Seitz images should be Seitz with the date of the publication. The specimen images would be more useful with the locality/label information.

I did not get too many insect images on my trup - but you will find some here Cheers. Shyamal 01:36, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Possible spam

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Date for Seitz images

Dear Robert, Hope you found the modified Teinopalpus imperialis images suitable. Will find some time to work on the other images as well. The new Seitz images need the date of publication, not the date of upload. cheers. Shyamal 12:12, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Kallima philarchus

Amazing colours ! No, this is restricted to Sri Lanka. In Southwest India we get Kallima horsfieldi and in the Northeast there is Kallima inachus. They are believed to be arrivals to the region from Indo Malaya, after the Indian plate hit the Eurasian plate. A very sunny afternoon. Shyamal 09:53, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

A strange story about the image on the Kallima inachus page. That was photographed in the wild in Missouri, USA ! Shyamal 09:54, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Reply

I'm quite sure he is the same Whitaker who founded U.S. Città di Palermo. How many people named Joseph Isaac Spadafora Whitaker born in 1850 would there be working in Sicily during that time period? There just seems to be some confusion over his date of death. - Deathrocker 09:54, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Reply in re Japanese Beetles

While I am a Korea specialist mainly interested in Korean, Japanese, and Chinese history, years ago I intended to be an entomologist before the Asian language bug finally redirected me completely. My father's younger brother, Dr. Morris Rockstein [2], a renowned gerontologist who worked on insect aging and marine invertebrates, was influential on me in my youth and I worked in his laboratory at Woods Hole, Massachusetts, one summer, doing research on starfish (where, by the way, I met the eminent entomologist, Victor Wigglesworth in 1956 and still remember the veryobsessive manner in which he ate pancakes with butter, making the pats of butter last exactly to the last bite). Years later, I worked in the USDA, Entomolgical Research Division, Insects Affecting Animal and Man Research Laboratory as lab assistant in 1964 [3]. I grew up near Riverton, NJ, and have long been fascinated by the local connection with entomological history. By the way, my mom's mother's family (Rockett's, Norman's who came to Ireland in the 12thc) came from County Waterford and I have a number of other ancestors, born in Ireland with non-Irish surnames such as "Jones" (Thomas Jones, who fought on the losing side in the Battle of the Boyne) who came from Strabane in County Tyrone. My brother and I enjoyed a visit around Ireland two years ago. Ay any rate, thanks for your kind note, sorry, but I don't think I have musch more to offer. Doc Rock 14:22, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Availability

Hope you had a good holiday. A long weekend here too and I spent some time listing to some lovely Irish (Gaelic ?) music. (Kila - Tog e Bog e - what does that mean ?) Would you have access to the following work ? Sharpe, R.B., 1906. The history of the collections contained in the Natural History Departments of the British Museum. Vol. 2. Birds: 79-516.— London. Looking for references to the Hume collection. Shyamal 12:05, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Insecta Brittanica Diptera

The article with the title Insecta Brittanica Diptera (2 t's, one n, no punct), begins with "Insecta Britannica. Diptera" (1 t, two n's, period), which it contains a second time, then it says "Insecta Britannica, Diptera" (1 t, two n's, comma) three times.

You are the only person to edit this article, so you must know The Truth ^TM. Please make the name consistent, or add a section about different renderings of the name.

And if you want to know why I was reading this page, check Special:Whatlinkshere/Insecta Brittanica Diptera. I am hoping "Brittanica" is a misspelling and that you will fix it promptly. — Randall Bart 18:51, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

I moved it and made a few spell fixes based on [4] etc. Shyamal 01:43, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Forest entomology

I just bumped into the names of some forest entomologists today, I am not sure if the subject originated in India (forestry itself was introduced into India from Germany), but it definitely produced some greats. Edward Percival Stebbing (who was followed by Imms), C F C Beeson (I remember seeing many papers by him on predators and parasites). Little info. Found this goldmine... still digging...

• Insect intruders in Indian homes - Stebbing, Edward Percy, 1870-1960
• Current topics in forest_entomology (1979) W.E.Walters
• entomology books

Summer is here. cheers Shyamal 11:53, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Parnassius eversmanni

No trouble, but I reduced the image dimensions by a third. Shyamal 04:02, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Please categorize thanks ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^{"Expecting you" Contribs} 10:56, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Atrina fragilis

Dear Robert, I fixed the family and order for this as given on [5], it appears that Mytiloida does not include the genus [6]. Cheers. Shyamal 08:37, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

David Allan Young

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This can be removed once we trace some of the genera created by Young and the new tribe. Is the tribe Youngolidiini named after him by any chance. Perhaps I could also check with my one time advisor, C. A. Viraktamath (who also works on the Cicadellidae), who might know more. Quite a problem establishing the notability of taxon authors who work silently on the "less visible" taxa. Shyamal 15:05, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Katalog der Palaearktischen dipteren

• Kalman, Volume 1
• Bezzi, Mario. Katalog der Palaarktischen dipteren (1903) Volume 2
• Bezzi Mario. Volume 3
• Volume 4 Theodor Becker

Cheers Shyamal 11:44, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Also this one Ann. Mag. Nat. Hist. Shyamal 11:49, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Jean Jacques Kieffer

Hi, [7], no such article on fr:wp but in article you added "Translation from French Wikipedia", I can't retrieve it on fr: nor in deletion log, do you remember from where it come ? - phe 19:03, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

errm, apparently you translated it from the external link, not from fr:wp: - phe 19:06, 18 July 2007 (UTC)