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Translation

Could you translate the following into english for me?

"少負气節，沉厚寡言，家貧力學，尤好【左氏春秋】、孫吳兵法。生有神力，未冠，挽弓三百斤，弩八石。學射与周侗，盡其術，能左右射。侗死，溯望設祭于其冢。父義之，曰：“汝為時用，其徇國死義乎。"

I pretty much know what it says, but I'm sure you can come up with a more fluid sounding english version of it than I ever could. Its from one of Yue Fei's biographies. Thanks. (!Mi luchador nombre es amoladora de la carne y traigo el dolor! 11:20, 8 October 2006 (UTC))

This is what I'd render it as:

He had honor and self-respect from his youth, and he was serious and quiet. Despite his family's poverty, he was studious, and particularly favored the Zuo Zhuan edition of the Spring and Autumn Annals and the strategies of Sun Tzu and Wu Qi. He was also unusually strong, and even before his adulthood, he was able to use a bow that required a force of 300 jin [roughly 150 kilograms] and use a sling that fired eight stones. He learned archery from Zhou Tong. He learned everything he could from Zhou, and he could fire from both hands. After Zhou's death, he would annually offer sacrifices to Zhou at Zhou's tomb. His father [unclear from context whether this refers to Yue's father or Zhou's father] praised him for his faithfulness and said, "When you become used, you will serve the state well and die with righteouness."

However, be aware that some of these claims are likely to be exaggerated and may have problems with WP:PEACOCK and WP:NPOV. If it were an article I was writing, I'd abbreviate some of these claims. Of course, that's up to you. --Nlu (talk) 14:58, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. It is for my article that I wrote about Yue Fei's archery teacher Zhou Tong. Tell me what you think. If you see any mistakes, please let me know. Also, before you read it, I must tell you that I've tried to keep a balance between the "historical" and the "fictional" information that I've found about him. If you see any mistakes in my translation of some chinese words let me know as well. (!Mi luchador nombre es amoladora de la carne y traigo el dolor! 22:01, 8 October 2006 (UTC))

Thanks for letting me know. However, as someone who's not well-versed in Song history or Water Margin, I don't think I can provide much input. --Nlu (talk) 22:03, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

I spend a lot of time on the China History Forum. I must have been mis-informed about the dating of the "History of the Song". The person who told me it was written by Yue Fei's grandson (which I assumed was Yue Ke) is held in high esteem for his knowledge in martial arts history and application, as well as his general knowledge of Chinese history. Either I misunderstood what he wrote or he must have been thinking of something else when he typed in the History "". I will have to contact him about this matter. Thanks for the correction.

Also, in my quest for "Zhou Tong" info, I emailed Hon. Sir T.L. Yang a list of questions and he actually called me on my cell phone. I spoke with him for about an hour about Yue Fei and Zhou Tong. He is a very nice elderly fellow with a slight british accent. I even located a copy of Zhou Tong's fictional biography (铁臂金刀周侗传), but since my chinese is poor, it will take me a good while to make since of it. As soon as I'm able to translate bits of the book, I will add it to the page. Kind of like a summary of his fictional life.(!Mi luchador nombre es amoladora de la carne y traigo el dolor! 22:44, 8 October 2006 (UTC))

Thanks for the information. Yeah, the History of Song was compiled by the Yuan prime minister Toktoghan (脫脫). It could very well mean that that person meant that Yue Fei's grandson compiled the source material, which was certainly possible. --Nlu (talk) 01:03, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

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Sorry to bother you again, but could you look into something for me?

"《金佗续编》卷二八，永州判官孙遒编《鄂王事》"

I know the first part talks about the name of the 28th chapter of the book 鄂王事 and it also has the authors name, 孙遒, and something about him being an official or judge. I'm actually trying to find out when the book was first published. I think it was published in the Qing, but I could be wrong. What do you think? I would also like to see if it is available to read online. I got the info off of a Yue Fei website, but it doesn't give a date to my knowledge. (!Mi luchador nombre es amoladora de la carne y traigo el dolor! 07:42, 20 October 2006 (UTC))

Obviously, it's not the complete context here, but I think the first part was actually the other way around -- that 鄂王事 was the 28th chapter of the first book mentioned. The author's office can roughly be translated as the assistant to the governor of Yong Prefecture. Other than that, since I am unfamiliar with the work, I'm not sure I have more information to give. Sorry. --Nlu (talk) 07:45, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Can you do this text for me?

鸡刀镰 - 属奇门兵械。俗称"梱花腰子"。为心意拳门器械之一。相传为形意拳创始人姬隆豐所创，长二尺六寸余，金属制成，由镰身和镰柄组成，镰身包括鸡嘴、鸡冠、镰刃、镰脊；镰柄有镰格、镰首。技法有钩、拉、帶、挎、掛、啄、纏等，以近战为主。套路有单练和对练。

It is for my new article on the Chicken Sickles. I promise I will leave you alone after this. Thanks. (!Mi luchador nombre es amoladora de la carne y traigo el dolor! 00:06, 21 October 2006 (UTC))

Uh, this is really outside my area of knowledge, and I really can't translate it all, and in one place it made a self-contradiction. The portion that I can would be:

A chicken sickle [using your terminology] is an unusual weapon that is also known as "[a flower that I don't know]'s kidneys." It is a weapon used by the Xinyiquan (心意拳) faction, and according to legend was first made by Xingyiquan (形意拳) faction [note difference in pronunciation and character!]'s founder Ji Longfeng. It is more than two chi (尺) and six cun (寸) long and made of metal, and consists of a body and a hilt. Bhe body includes a chicken beak, a chicken comb, an edge, and a dull side. The hilt has [two parts that I don't know the terminology for]. The techniques include hooking, pulling, [three techniques I don't know terminology for], pecking, and tangling. It is used for closed-quarter combat. [i don't understand the final sentence.]

--Nlu (talk) 05:39, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

About Goguryeo

Though you can remove some personal opinion, you cannot remove the entire section of Modern Politics.--Hairwizard91 05:26, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Rewrite it in a NPOV manner. --Nlu (talk) 05:26, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

OK I will start the version by 22:58, 19 October 2006 Kprideboi (Talk | contribs) because ABCBBCKBS had removed the entire section. You can see that the version by Kprideboi is not my version, which means that it follows POV —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hairwizard91 (talk • contribs)

That another user inserted POV is not an excuse to re-insert the same POV. --Nlu (talk) 05:32, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

If so, i will revert to the previous YOUR version ( 22:57, 14 October 2006 Nlu (Talk | contribs) m (Reverted edits by Hairwizard91 (talk) to last version by Nlu). If you think that the previous your version is also violating POV, you are self-conflicting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hairwizard91 (talk • contribs)

Call it whatever you wish. I was reverting your POV edits, and I had no way to check every single article you edited to remove every bit of POV. Now that I've seen it, it's coming out. --Nlu (talk) 05:36, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

What you said means that you revert my editing without comparing my article to the previous version. Right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hairwizard91 (talk • contribs)

I've never said that I can manage to read every single one of your POV edits. As I wrote in WP:AN/I, you're gaming the system by making so many edits in trying to make at least some stick. I can't go in and read every single edit of yours. --Nlu (talk) 05:40, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

So, what was your criteria for reverting my edited article? Without reading it, how can you decide whether my editing violate POV? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hairwizard91 (talk • contribs)

I've read enough of your contemporaneous edits that, if you make 25 edits and 20 are clearly unacceptable POV, you're inviting for the other five to be reverted as well. --Nlu (talk) 05:43, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok list all the sentence and words that violate the POV. I can compare my version with the your previous version. It is exactly same version. OK? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hairwizard91 (talk • contribs)

I am not playing this game with you. You know exactly why your edit is POV. Do it again and you'll draw another block, as you've been amply warned. --Nlu (talk) 05:45, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

I dont understand how you can decide vandalism even though you did not read the article very carefullly. If you are going to dicide the vandalism, you should at least compare the current version with the previous version. However, you do not compare the histories of editing, and revert the article only to your version. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hairwizard91 (talk • contribs)

User page vandal

No problem, glad I could help. I like copying what people say on my talk page! --The Great Llama^{(speak to the Llama!)} 18:37, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Hairwizard

Why don't we just nip him in the bud permanently for those edits and so he stops complaining about you at WP:ANI? —Ryūlóng (竜龍) 21:48, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Believe me, I'm tempted to do so -- but I shouldn't do it because of his complaints, and his complaints only serves to undermine his own credibility. Rather, if he continues to POV-izing articles -- and tonight I have no time to look at things -- he'll draw progressively longer blocks. --Nlu (talk) 05:40, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Password emails?

Hi, did you get a pile of password reminders from 211.26.126.68, an IP that you reverted the vandalism from? He attacked my talk page and you blocked him. I got 12 reminders from it. How about you?  Jorcoga  11:39, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

I did, and the thing to do with it is to ignore them. Thanks for dealing with him as well. --Nlu (talk) 16:18, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Goguryeo

Hi, i'm Kprideboi. I was just wondering on what ur views on Goguryeo are. Do u agree with the "Modern Politics" section, or do u not? Do u think it attacks the DPRC too much? I'm just curious. I guess it does have too much personal opinion. Hey, but one thing, don't stop anyone from inserting the fact that China has went through so much trouble changing all of the textbook history in order to force Goguryeo into its history. That is a very important and outrageous part of current events that should be included. Well, its nice talking to u, Nlu. and please don't see this comment in a negative way. I just wanted to see ur points of view. One must see both sides of the story in order to clearly carry out a defense, rite? --Kprideboi 22:02, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

The reason why I believe it was POV was that it made derogatory remarks about the Chinese and therefore violated that part of the NPOV requirement. It needs to be written in such a way that acknowledges the differences in views and discuss the evidence on both sides, in my opinion. --Nlu (talk) 22:43, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Unethical

As a moderator, you automatically assume the responsibilities of article discussion and clean-up. However, you have absolutely no right to abuse your powers in mismanaging the Goguryeo article. I will not tolerate any of this in the future. Don't even think about doing it again. I will make sure you return the article to its original format, and I hope you try to rent your anger on something else, and we try to resolve the "disputes" in an ethical process. Oyo321 21:11, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

You're entitled to your opinion about my ethics. I will, however, not be swayed by your accusation. I'll do my job as I see fit. --Nlu (talk) 22:17, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

no answer

Contrary to your mediator statement, explain why have you deleted sections of Goguryeo? Being a moderator gives you no special rights. Oyo321 22:26, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

The reasons have been discussed above. --Nlu (talk) 22:27, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Persistent Vandal on India Page

Hi Nlu, I don't mean to pester you, but the vandal on the India page, whom you had first blocked for 24 hours on the 18th, and then for 48 hours on the 19th, has returned to his/her mischief making. He/she either appears under an IP address, see: 202.56.248.6 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log), or under a name: Himalayanashoka (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). I thought I'd point it out to you. Thanks again for your past efforts. Fowler&fowler 16:24, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I will take a look. Thanks. --Nlu (talk) 16:26, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I've blocked Hamalayanashoka for 48 hours and the IP for 1 week. Thanks. --Nlu (talk) 16:31, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you! Fowler&fowler 19:03, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

user: Hetoum

promise not to vandalize. can tags be removed? (Hetoum 21:59, 23 October 2006 (UTC))

Tags removed, and your user page has been unprotected. However, please be aware that resumption to your previous behavior will draw not only reprotection, retagging, but also reblock. Further, I am still troubled a bit by your edits on October 19 as still overly POV. Remember that Wikipedia is not a soapbox, and we welcome people to edit and improve articles, not to make political statements -- that includes nationalistic statements. --Nlu (talk) 04:50, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

business cycle and asset prices

what's wrong with an external link to a few dozen of articles and books on the subject? I vote to put it back. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.69.156.250 (talk • contribs)

The links you added were clearly advertisement,which goes against WP:EL and WP:SPAM. If you can make a reasonable case that they do not violate those guidelines, discuss on the article talk page. --Nlu (talk) 05:30, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I saw fre "recent changes" that you're active now

Can you restore Azlea Antistia ? [1]. It was deleted. The reason was given is a copyvio. Please restore it. I don't knwo if it is a copyvio (I don't think so). I'll rewrite it and remove the (possibly) copyrighted text form the entry. --Haham hanuka 10:29, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I've post it on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard but no admin has responed yet. --Haham hanuka 10:30, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I'll take a look, but I am not inclined to restore it without it having gone through a WP:DRV. We cannot let copyright-violative material be on Wikipedia -- doing so opens Wikipedia to legal liability. What I may do is to copy and paste the content and e-mail to you, assuming you have an e-mail address registered on your account. You can then try to reascertain the status of the material and rewrite it in a non-violative way. --Nlu (talk) 10:31, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I've taken a look, and I must say that I can't, in good faith, restore it. It does appear to be a copyright violation. Since you don't have a registered e-mail address, I can't e-mail it to you. --Nlu (talk) 10:34, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

So restore only the table. The table is not a copyvio. --Haham hanuka 11:02, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I still think this should be subjected to a WP:DRV. You can file a request there. --Nlu (talk) 11:03, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

WP:DRV is for arctiles that deleted because of AFD or PROD. You can send me it to totokeee (dot GMail.com). I'll restore it whithout the "copyright violating" text. --Haham hanuka 15:26, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I've rewritten it. Now you can't tell me this is a copyvio. --Haham hanuka 19:32, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

No, it's not violative of copyright, and I appreciate it. However, I think it should be subject to an AfD, and have added one. --Nlu (talk) 21:35, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: Justinian I Award

Sweet. :) Thanks for your help with this guy, tonight, too; let's hope he reconsiders before those rangeblocks are run through. Off to read that article, now. ;) Luna Santin 06:47, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Celebrity usernames

Usernames of "well-known living or recently deceased people" are prohibited by policy. See WP:U#Inappropriate_usernames. -Hit bull, win steak^(Moo!) 16:19, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the info. --Nlu (talk) 16:21, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. As many rules as we have around here, it's easy to miss a few. -Hit bull, win steak^(Moo!) 16:31, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

DougHolton

Hey, just wanted to let you know that someone claiming to be DougHolton from 69.138.37.99 is voting on several of your AfDs. I didn't wish to mark them as unsigned or otherwise touch them (since it might risk another edit war), though it might be worth noting before the AfDs are closed. -dougk (Talk ˑ Contribs) 19:59, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. --Nlu (talk) 04:34, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

me

uh i deleted it myself...thanks babe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.225.202.126 (talk • contribs)

You didn't do a complete job; therefore the warning. --Nlu (talk) 04:34, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

hey, just wanted to let you know that you're awesome.

Northern Wei

Yeah, some of it was..do you think you could help me reword it? Its really good information. I also worked on Liao Dynasty page but I tried to make sure that it sound like it was straight out of the book. - Zhang Guo Lao 06:04, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

I am not really yet at a stage where I can edit the stuff on Liao, but I am modifying the Northern Wei article. And really, if it's out of a book directly, it shouldn't be there -- so please, if you can, take out the material that directly came out of a book. (Distillations are OK.) I don't want to remove all of your edits, but it may become necessary, as violations of GFDL are no-nos. Thanks. --Nlu (talk) 06:06, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

My user page

Please compare the pages when your revert my user page. Someone had added a figure that is not relevant to my user page. --Hairwizard91 17:32, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

The "figure" is a link to the archive, which Yamaguchi先生 (talk · contribs) had created for you per your request. It's not irrelevant -- because it links to the old warnings that he/she deleted for you and archived. If you want to archive in another manner, fine, but put those old warnings in an archive that can be accessed.--Nlu (talk) 17:33, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry I didnt know how to use it.--Hairwizard91 17:35, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

However, when I click the archive figure, it is redirect to the wikipage of archive.png. I think it is not the real archive... isnt it?--Hairwizard91 17:38, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Let me take a look. I don't use that archiving system (I do it manually myself), so let me see. --Nlu (talk) 17:38, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Click on the "Archive1" link under it, and that's what gets you to the archive. --Nlu (talk) 17:39, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok. Thanks.--Hairwizard91 17:40, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism

• A frequent vandal has continued to cause trouble for wikipedia. I noticed that you've dealt with the IP in the past, so I'm writing this on your talk page. The most recent vandalism has been the addition of the word "poop" in place of numerous key phrases in the History of the Soviet Union page. I strongly suggest an extended block of at least several days, probably starting on a weekday (the IP is for a public school in the Pinckney, Michigan area). Here is the IP's talk page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:204.39.58.111

While we're at it, I might as will give you:

		The Original Barnstar
		for your tireless and well-received contributions to Wikipedia. Davemcarlson 22:40, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! Meanwhile, I've reviewed that IP, and since I can't be confident that the October 23 and October 26 vandals are the same person, I don't feel comfortable blocking at the moment, but I've added a new {{test4-n}}. Please do let me know if the IP vandalizes again, or report it at WP:AIV. --Nlu (talk) 02:02, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Fwdixon/MookiesDad/SuperDuperMan/ 71.125.234.14

For the past month this user, Fwdixon (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)/MookiesDad (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)/SuperDuperMan (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)/71.125.234.14 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log), has engaged in edit warring, flagrant sockpuppetry, repeated personal attacks, removal of legitimate warning messages from his various user talk pages, and at least one 3RR violation. This can be easily verified and demonstrates a brazen disregard for the rules of conduct governing Wikipedia. He has also placed a prank, retalitory warning about 3RR on my user page and in an edit summary on [[2]]. It is unlikely that his disruptive behavior will stop without intervention by a Wiki admin. Could you please review the activity of this user on [[3]] and [[4]] and lend assistance in whatever way you can? Thank you. Pak434 15:56, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

I really can't at the moment -- not until tonight, at least. I'd suggest reporting it to WP:AN/I or file a WP:RFC. --Nlu (talk) 15:59, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

User:Pak434 has consistently violated the 3RR rule among other rules, also edits under the sockpuppet User:Noumenes, he has insisted on posting supposition as fact on the Tom Swift page. I suspect both edit names are sock/meat puppets of User:Antaeus_Feldspar - SuperDuperMan 19:37, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your prompt action in temporarily protecting the article in question from further editing. I have followed your suggestion and reported the problem to WP:AN/I at [[5]]. As you can see, the vandal is now engaging in retaliatory allegations that have absolutely no basis in fact. I am confident that if an admin can find the time to review this user's activities, ample grounds for banning will be found. Pak434 03:21, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

quick question

How do I get those user attributes onto my page, and where do I find them?Dool325 03:44, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Userboxes Cbrown1023 03:54, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Superwikiman (talk • contribs)

You're welcome -- but for what? --Nlu (talk) 07:04, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, Nlu

Thanks for the welcome! --NC Ranger 18:52, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

No problem. Hope to be working with you. --Nlu (talk) 20:02, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for taking care of the vandals on Benjamin Logan Local Schools recently. I guess I had the wrong idea about you, thinking you were some kind of snobbish prat.--SuperWikiman 21:05, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

:-) --Nlu (talk) 05:44, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Take a look

Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2006_October_30#Azlea_Antistia. --Haham hanuka 13:26, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't see an entry on her there. --Nlu (talk) 17:46, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Found it at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2006 November 4. Thanks. --Nlu (talk) 17:48, 4 November 2006 (UTC)