Nkhepler

October 2009

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, adding content without citing a reliable source, as you did to Carlos Ruiz (baseball), is not consistent with our policy of verifiability. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you are familiar with Wikipedia:Citing sources, please take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 02:50, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

The reference you provided does not verify the assertion. Please stop inserting unreferenced information into biographies of living people. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 03:01, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did with this edit to the page Carlos Ruiz (baseball). Such edits constitute vandalism and are reverted. Please do not continue to make unconstructive edits to pages; use the sandbox for testing. Thank you. Tim1357 (talk) 03:02, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

This in an encyclopedia, not a place for "things to catch on". Wikipedia is not your playground, your sandbox, or your place to try and make things happen. Without a source, especially in a biography of a living person, it goes. Please read WP:BLP for this policy, as well as the following quote from founder Jimmy Wales:

"I can NOT emphasize this enough. There seems to be a terrible bias among some editors that some sort of random speculative 'I heard it somewhere' pseudo information is to be tagged with a 'needs a cite' tag. Wrong. It should be removed, aggressively, unless it can be sourced. This is true of all information, but it is particularly true of negative information about living persons."

In your message on my talk page, you said "Personally, I think...". That says it all. No opinions in an encyclopedia. That is all. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 03:12, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

There are tons of articles, about famous people, who have their popular nicknames listed but never cite them. Most nicknames can't be cited, they're just something that catch on. Just because you didn't hear it before doesn't mean it isn't a popular nickname

Reliable sources are needed if something is to be included in an article on a living person. Period. Please read WP:RS and WP:V for the definition of reliability as it applies to Wikipedia. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 03:46, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

then i guess i'll have to get an article written about it since you don't think its legit enough

Do not disrupt Wikipedia just to prove a point. Continued edits like the one you made to Pat Burrell could lead to your account being blocked. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 12:00, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

i gave up on that whole carlos ruiz nickname thing. now i'm just doing what you said, deleting nicknames that aren't cited. if it isn't cited, it shouldn't be there. i've only deleted nicknames that aren't cited, if they have a credible source i'm fine with it. pat burrell's nickname wasn't cited when i deleted it. since it is now, i won't delete it again. but until the other nicknames are actually cited, they should go.

That is incorrect. You are twisting policy and gaming the system. The nicknames that are in the article are from Baseball-Reference, a highly reputable site. The links to those pages are provided at the bottom of each article. Continued disruption could lead to your account being blocked. Please desist. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 17:54, 23 October 2009 (UTC)