User talk:NicoV/Archive 2021

Bug report: false detection of punctuation for definition syntax

 Resolved

It seems that the definition syntax is misinterpreted as punctionation, e.g. here. Reporting here so I don't need to keep rolling-back this edit. +mt 23:57, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Mwtoews. Thanks for the report, I will see how I can prevent WPCleaner to do this edit in such cases. For the moment, I've just modified the article so that it's not detected as a problem anymore. --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 12:14, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Sounds good. Thanks for the awesome work with WPCleaner! +mt 22:19, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

It should be good now. --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 07:06, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Extra full stop should have been newline removal

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Hi, in this edit, WikiCleanerBot incorrectly added a second full stop where it should have removed the newline in accordance with WP:REFPUNC. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:35, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification Redrose64, I will see how to prevent this. --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 10:08, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Redrose64. It should be correctly handled in the future. --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 17:24, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:59, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

WPC 504 dump

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Something seems to have gone wrong and Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/WPC 504 dump was blanked during the latest refresh. I appreciate the list. Should I just wait for the next update? RJFJR (talk) 14:40, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification RJFJR. I've seen, but I don't know why yet. It seems to be the same for several lists related to references (Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/WPC 558 dump‎, Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/WPC 504 dump, Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/WPC 111 dump...). Once I understand the problem and how to fix it, I will run another analysis. --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 16:09, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. RJFJR (talk) 16:25, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

RJFJR. For the moment, I manually put the end of the previous dump analysis. Still trying to understand what the problem is. --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 09:28, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi RJFJR. I don't know what the problem was, but I ran the dump analysis only for 111, 504 and 558 and all pages were properly updated. I'll check on the next dump analysis. --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 15:34, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. RJFJR (talk) 20:27, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

How do you do

Oh bot Nub29339 (talk) 03:33, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

WikiCleanerBot error

 Resolved

See this wrong removal of an empty span by WikiCleanerBot. I guess an alternative to <span></span> could be {{void}}, but you could educate the robot to ask itself whether an empty span might be there for a specific reason before deciding to remove it. Boud (talk) 17:24, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

I think what is mostly widely used in that case is a <nowiki /> tag. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:57, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Boud. The correct way would be a <nowiki /> tag as Jonesey95 said. To prevent some parsing by the wikitext parser, it's conceptually cleaner to use wikitext tags (<nowiki />) rather than HTML tags. And the output is cleaner because the span tag ends up in the rendered HTML, while the nowiki tag doesn't. --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 18:25, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

OK, thanks. That makes sense. <nowiki /> is fine by me. Boud (talk) 21:42, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

A <span></span> tag pair that has neither content nor attributes (class= id= style= etc.) does absolutely nothing. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:29, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Boud. To be on the safe side, I've prevented WPCleaner to automatically remove empty tags when they're between identical brackets (square/curvy, opening/closing) as they may prevent MW parser to interpret them as wiki syntax (even if it's not the best way to do that). --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 11:43, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

New Linter bogus file option errors

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Some bug fixes in the Linter bogus file option detection code have led to a pile of new articles on the to-fix list. I think that "\d+ppx" is newly detected as an error. If WikiCleanerBot 22 wants to search and destroy all of those, that would be helpful. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:39, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Also widthpx, if you are interested, about 150 articles. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:41, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Jonesey95. I will try when I have some available time (next week maybe). --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 18:47, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Jonesey95. I don't know who fixed them (maybe my bot, but I didn't do anything special), but they're all fixed (only left images in comments). --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 20:49, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

New Linter links-in-links error for bot to fix

 Resolved

Here's another one, affecting about 700 articles: {{PD-notice}} inside an external link. The fix is simple.

The reason that it wasn't on our radar before is that the link-in-link Linter test was failing to detect wikilinks wrapped in italics. A bug fix was deployed last week, so now these are popping up on the link-in-link list. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:52, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Jonesey95. That's an easy one, it's just a configuration. --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 17:55, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Jonesey95. They're correctly detected, and my bot is currently going through the list to fix them. --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 11:39, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Wonderful. Thanks for cleaning these articles! – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:18, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

vecwiki

vec:Utensa:NicoV/WikiCleanerConfiguration --Fierodelveneto (talk) 20:30, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Fierodelveneto. I've added vecWP to WPCleaner and to the list of supported wikis. It should be working now. The current vec:Utensa:NicoV/WikiCleanerConfiguration is a first start for configuring WPCleaner for vecWP. If you want to benefit of more features from the tool, you will need to configure a few more things:

• Check Wiki configuration on vecWP (example of configuration for enWP
• Once this is done, you will need to modify check_wiki_translation_page=Wikipedia:WikiProjekt Check Wikipedia/Translation END in vec:Utensa:NicoV/WikiCleanerConfiguration so that it points to the configuration you created for Check Wiki

If you need help, don't hesitate to ask! --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 11:55, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Bot T20 CW#61 oversight of "[[wikilink]]<ref>."

 Resolved

Bot doesn't recognize "[[wikilink]]<ref>." (and probably "[link]<ref>." too), see this diff (I've corrected it manually). MarMi wiki (talk) 15:46, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks MarMi wiki ! I will modify WPCleaner to handle also this case. --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 16:16, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

It's done MarMi wiki. My bot wasn't properly detecting the problem because of the "}" after the punctuation. It should be solved for the next itme my bot runs. Thanks again for the report! --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 20:58, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

That's a relief

I was a little spooked that the bots had become sentient, which would mean we're all screwed. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:08, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Error?

Disregard

I just reverted the removal of "Category:Alumni of Magdalen College, Oxford" from the article Sir William Beauchamp-Proctor, 1st Baronet. I don't see why that was being removed, as it isn't a duplication of any other categories present. Brianyoumans (talk) 18:37, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi Brianyoumans. It's not an error the category is listed twice, see below. --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 18:46, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

[[Category:Alumni of Magdalen College, Oxford]]
[[Category:People from Tottenham]]
[[Category:People from Loddon]]
[[Category:Alumni of Magdalen College, Oxford]]

Oops. My bad. Thank you! Brianyoumans (talk) 00:04, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Suggestion: operate Task 5 in File space

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Can Task 5 operate in File space, like this? It would help to get the easy fixes off of the list and save the difficult ones for humans. They are listed at Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/WPC 002 dump. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:29, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi Jonesey95. It's very easy to do it. Do you think I need to open a new request for approval to extend some checks to the File space? --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 16:02, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

I don't think so. These should be uncontroversial modifications. (If you were going into Talk spaces, I would say yes to a new BRFA.) – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:04, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi Jonesey95. I wasn't sure, that's why my bot is currently doing only 3 errors in File space. If you think it's ok for such modifications, I will add some to my bot tasks. --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 16:09, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

I think it is OK. Very few people really watch, or care about, or feel ownership about, the text content in File space. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:14, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi Jonesey95. Ok, the bot is going through the File space right now. --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 16:20, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Clever

Figuring out the correct link/label here was a very cool trick. Thank you, to whomever wrote the code for that. WhatamIdoing (talk) 03:12, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks WhatamIdoing. Indeed, it took some code for handling missing whitespace before internal links.... --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 09:59, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Image

Do image in Dev joshi article Dev joshi fan (talk) 08:59, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

references before commas

WikiCleanerBot recently altered an article Cornish Wrestling Throws by taking elements in a list separated by commas, with references against each element of the list and moving the references to after the commas. The purpose of commas in a list is to separate the items in the list, so this is effectively placing the references against the wrong part of the list and looks terrible. How can we stop this from happening? It takes hours to correct and this has just happened again.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mab an Garrek (talk • contribs) 07:47, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Hello Mab an Garrek. For the Manual of Style, MOS:REFPUNCT, there's no such cases of placing the references before the commas : they should always be after the comma, whatever the part of the sentence they are referring to. So placing them before the comma is incorrect according to English Wikipedia choice (even if you think it looks terrible... I do too, and I prefer a lot French syntax for example, where references are always before the punctuation). You can of course revert the modifications (it should be quick, just revert), but the bot will go again through the article (probably at least twice a month). You can try adding the page to Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Error_061_whitelist (please add a reason after the page name, it will be easier to understand why the page is here later). Otherwise, you can add a <!-- --> between the reference and the comma. --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 08:15, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. Very helpful :-)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mab an Garrek (talk • contribs) 14:11, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

WikiCleanerBot turning an external link into an internal one when external was intentional

Hello,

I don't know if you can solve this, but WikiCleanerbot turned an intentional external link on Sliding door (car) into an internal one, breaking a template (diff). Please let me know if there's anything that can be done about this. Thanks, DesertPipeline (talk) 14:25, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

I probably should have just used the {{edit}} template in the first place, actually... DesertPipeline (talk) 14:29, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi DesertPipeline. Thanks for the message. I will see what I can do to prevent WPCleaner for doing such edits. You could also maybe use {{Empty section}}, which looks a bit different but is intended for this kind of message. EDIT: not sure about {{Empty section}} as it seems to be substed... --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 14:40, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

I actually replaced the {{empty section}} template when I made an edit to the page before; I prefer the look of a width-variable box (although I should probably just ask if that can be made a parameter on ambox – then again, I suppose it would require all templates using it to add the parameter themselves too). You don't need to try to resolve this though; it was my fault. I should have just used the {{edit}} template. I'm using that template now there. DesertPipeline (talk) 04:28, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

@DesertPipeline:

Speaking of internal links with parameters, there's also {{Querylink}} ({{ql}}), but I don't know how the bot handles it.

{{Querylink|Sliding door (car)|qs=action=edit&section=5|adding to it}}.

adding to it MarMi wiki (talk) 00:19, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks MarMi wiki. The bot should ignore it entirely, as there's no visible external link in the wiki text. --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 05:45, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

Please exclude

Please exclude Erich Rieger from bot. The article relies on academic sources and your bot introduces ambiguity, such as with paragraph-closing citations that it makes look to apply to a whole paragraph instead of just the last sentence. Yreuq (talk) 15:26, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi Yreuq. The Manual of Style doesn't have such exceptions for having references before the punctuation, see WP:REFPUNCT. The correct formatting, according to MOS, is with the reference after the punctuation. If you still want to force the reference to be before the punctuation, you can insert a comment between the reference and the punctuation <ref>...</ref><!-- -->., that will prevent the bot from changing them. --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 15:39, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

List of The Simpsons guest stars

Hello. Please exclude this bot from editing the List of The Simpsons guest stars section, at least for trying to clean the season menu at the top of the List of Guest stars sub-section. Because this is split across two separate wikipedia pages (a separate Seasons 1 to 20, as well as the main page) the clean-up constantly breaks the functionality of the menu working on the List of The Simpsons guest stars (seasons 1–20) so the links to the main page (i.e. Seasons 21 and above) don't work. Manacek (talk) 03:37, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

Hello Manacek. Sorry for the inconvenience. I will look how to change WPCleaner to avoid doing this change on this page. For the moment, one way to avoid it is to keep the other fix to the page (moving the reference before the dot) because the problematic modification is cosmetic so it won't be done on its own. --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 17:47, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

WikiCleanerBot - broken image

Hello NicoV, your bot tried to fix unbalanced brackets, but the result was a broken image. Have a look at Jared Polis - broken image. Best regards --GünniX (talk) 06:42, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks GünniX for the report. I think the missing template end resulted in my bot making a mistake. --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 07:34, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

How can i contact you

Whatsapp me +918260852331 or mail me lyfarecords@gmail.com X0BiT111 (talk) 04:59, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi X0BiT111. Communication on wiki only. --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 17:21, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

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Phab:T297576 created

WikiCleanerBot creates a faulty wikilink with duplicate pipe characters from a faulty external link containing a spurious pipe, as in rev. 1060041139 of Lycée Français Charles de Gaulle (Chile). Filed T297576. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 04:17, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi Mathglot. Thanks for the report, I will look into it. --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 06:31, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

WikiCleanerBot - misplaced ; (semicolon)

In Sergey_Zimov#Filmography WikiCleanerBot changed the position of the semikolon from (Film site[23]; ARTE Germany[24]) to (Film site;[23] ARTE Germany[24]). But the reference number is for the movie site, not for the semicolon. Hence, I believe that the fix made by WikiCleanerBot should be rolled back. --Tristram (talk) 21:55, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi Tristram, thanks for the report, but the bot action seems correct, because on enWP, references are put after the punctuation, not before, see WP:REFPUNCT. --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 20:45, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

OK thanks. --Tristram (talk) 00:27, 3 January 2022 (UTC)