Nhw001123

Speedy deletion nomination of Jon Flip Muro

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A tag has been placed on Jon Flip Muro requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article, which appears to be about a real person, individual animal(s), an organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable. If this is the first page that you have created, then you should read the guide to writing your first article.

If you think that you can assert the notability of the subject, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the article (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag - if no such tag exists then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hangon tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm the subject's notability under Wikipedia guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. JNW (talk) 02:32, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

John "Flip" Muro RE

Hi ok what would be considered a reliable source? would an Amazon listing be considered notable? could I provide a link to amazon showing a recent release from a major artist he has contributed production to? also the blogs I noted are very large sites that are very difficult to get content on unless you have a following. I can post a link to a video of a song he produced and is featured in along with a major artist? it would prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he has contributed production to at least one major artist. I'm just confused as to what a reliable source for a music producer would be. So much music nowadays is internet driven, I can also post links to the records themselves, I feel like I can site many examples of music producers that have there work publicized in this fashion. He has a large following outside of the united states which can be tracked by the amount of you tube views his work gets, which is why I thought you tube would be a good source. I would def appreciate any help in getting the article up to par, I have seen many articles with less references that have not been deleted...thanks again for your help in advance

Nhw001123 (talk) 07:17, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

John "Flip" Muro

Hello. In order to qualify for an encyclopedia article, a person must be "notable". Please read WP:BIO and WP:MUSICBIO, the relevant notability criteria.

Muro's article was deleted because it didn't explain why Muro was important, and it didn't have any reliable sources that indicated he might be notable. (Blogs, YouTube, and similar sites are not considered reliable sources.)

If you think you can find independent reliable sources that establish Muro's notability, I'll restore the article for you. Please let me know what you'd like to do. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 06:26, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Please read WP:RS to see what sorts of sources are considered "reliable sources" for Wikipedia purposes. Blogs, with rare exceptions, are not considered reliable. Neither are Amazon.com or Youtube. If Muro is an important producer, he must have been the subject of an interview? a profile? — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 19:33, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Really, please read WP:RS. About blogs, please see WP:RS#Self-published sources (online and paper). — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 21:47, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I don't find your argument about the blogs persuasive. Why don't you appeal my decision at WP:Deletion review? — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 16:30, 5 July 2010 (UTC)