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Proposed deletion of Mike Clemente

The article Mike Clemente has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

No indication that subject meets the notability guidelines for inclusion; no significant third-party coverage of his work. Irrespective of association with Blackmore's Night, notability is not inherited.

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Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. §FreeRangeFrog 05:44, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

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Nomination of Earl Grey of Chimay for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Earl Grey of Chimay is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Earl Grey of Chimay until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. §FreeRangeFrog 21:16, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

November 2012

Please do not remove Articles for deletion notices from articles or remove other people's comments in Articles for deletion pages, as you did with Earl Grey of Chimay. Doing so won't stop the discussion from taking place. You are, however, welcome to comment about the proposed deletion on the appropriate page. Thank you. §FreeRangeFrog 21:40, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Removing AfD template

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to remove Articles for deletion notices or comments from articles and Articles for deletion pages, as you did at Earl Grey of Chimay, you may be blocked from editing. This is an automated message from a bot about this edit, where you removed the deletion template from an article before the deletion discussion was complete. If this message is in error, please report it. Snotbot  t • c »  02:13, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Your rant at Afd

I am sorry you feel like you are being picked on. The solution to that problem is for you to stop taking this personally. Everyone that edits on Wikipedia gets edits reverted. Everyone that creates articles will stand the possibility of getting one deleted. It isn't anything against you, or the guy you wrote the article on.

Biographical articles have the highest standard for inclusion of any article on Wikipedia. The reasons are fairly obvious. Firstly, if the standards were not high, every high school student in the country would write an article about his girlfriend. Secondly, when you write about a living person, there is always the chance that what you write might somehow offend the person you are writing about, which could lead to a libel suit.

The requirements for a musician that is strictly a member of a band and not a recording artist on their own might be kind of hard to understand. You stated that HIS body of work has been covered and reviewed extensively. If so, where are those reviews? Adding those to his article would satisfy the notability requirement. But reviews of the band he is in are not reviews of his work, they are reviews of the band's work, and as another poster told you, notability is not inherited from the band you are in.

Let me give you an example. Ian Gillan is best known for his work with Deep Purple. He also sung the role of Jesus in the original recording of Jesus Christ, Superstar. If you look at the article on him, you will find numerous cited reviews of HIS work. Not Deep Purple's awesome body of work, but articles about what Ian did as the lead singer in Deep Purple. This is the kind of referencing needed to write an article about a member of a band.

Please note that even if this article is deleted now, nothing will prevent you, or another editor, from creating an article about the man when and if the sources are available. You mentioned that there are many crappy articles about musicians already in Wikipedia. That is true. Wikipedia has been around for about ten years now, and when it first started, there wasn't much review being done. That has changed, as you are finding out. If you see an article about a musician that isn't up to par, by all means, try to get it there or nominate it for deletion. Your article got noticed because now there are a dedicated group of volunteers that mostly patrol new articles for their quality and either fix them up or nominate them for deletion.

Again, this isn't personal, and your taking it that way does nothing to help your cause. Understand what is required and go to trying to find sources. That is what will keep your article in the encyclopedia. If I can help in any way, feel free to message me. Gtwfan52 (talk) 20:01, 24 November 2012 (UTC)