User talk:Nbaganz/sandbox

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Zexianna

The first thing I notice is that the structure is a little strange. I’m expecting an image to be with the technical information that’s in the table in the beginning. You have to scroll a little bit to get to the general text, which is jarring when all of Wikipedia follows that same sort of structure with the intro at the very top.

There’s some vague language in some parts, like in the beginning, when you say, “art historians have been debating… for a bit”. I would expect some more concrete language here, as well as other sources. The concept of landscape paintings being rare if mentioned in back to back sentences in the significance of landscape section, too. I like the subcategories under the headings in historical context though, that works well for organization, but I would expect the description section to be after the intro. It’s strange to go into details before there’s even a general description of what the painting is. I would start with the general information and then get more specific as the headings continue.

You have a “comparison to View and Plan of Toledo” and “Visual Analysis” part, but I have no idea what you’re referencing so far. Will there be images for all of these?

The details here are useful, like the color contrast between skies and hills, but there’s a lot of interpretive language that isn’t unbiased and clear. Like “dark and somber skies” and the “message of darkness, or moodiness that is not always seen”. This section has a lot of that. I would put that somewhere else, like the interpretation section, because I would assume those things are based on things that sources have said, but it’s not cited. What one observer sees, another will not, and talking about El Greco as an artist without parallel is super subjective. This part reads more like an essay than a Wikipedia article, where you want things to be straight forward and factual without giving any opinions, other than the ones you specify from sources.

The organization is a vast improvement over the original article though, where everything is lumped into a spot with just a little bit of text. Zexianna (talk) 15:23, 21 October 2020 (UTC)Reply