User talk:Nataev/Archive 2

Thanks!

Thank you very much indeed! Aridd (talk) 22:13, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thank you for barnstar. --Norden1990 (talk) 11:21, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Editor's Barnstar
	One more good work. ..::Akmalzhon::.. 06:29, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

re: Fake Uzbek Wikipedia

Hello, honestly I wouldn't know where to begin with this. Maybe you've looked into it more already. Wikis are popping up all over the place, but I'm not sure that I can help you with this. If there's been any malicious activity hopefully the administrators there are doing what they can. Cheers, Dawnseeker2000 01:08, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! Hopefully people know the difference between the genuine Uzbek Wikipedia and the biased state-owned Wiki. I have started an article in the English Wiki about the Uzbek Wiki. I plan to expand and improve it. Nataev (talk) 11:21, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

re: Fake Uzbek Wikipedia

Hi. I'm not sure what can be done, but yes, I would think it's worth informing the broader Wikipedia community. Maybe some sort of protest message can be put up on the main page of the English Wikipedia. In the meantime, I would suggest that it's worth writing an article, here in the English Wikipedia, about the Uzbek Wikipedia (it's a blue link, but it's currently a redirect, not an article). For sources, there's: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/uzbekistan/9092977/Uzbekistan-blocks-Wikipedia-pages-say-witnesses.html , http://www.rferl.org/content/uzbek_wikipedia_blocked/24486460.html (also possibly this for context: http://www.rferl.org/content/attack_of_the_cloned_websites_this_time_in_uzbekistan/24485124.html ), and http://en.ria.ru/world/20120217/171367528.html . Aridd (talk) 09:01, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much! I have created an article about the Uzbek Wiki as you suggested. I plan to expand and it as much as I can. Thank you for the sources! The funny thing is I wrote an article in Uzbek about the blockage in RFE/RL and others started to write about it as well. I should have written my article earlier! Nataev (talk) 11:26, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Bypassing government blocking

By changing the "http" in the Wikimedia URL to "https" allows you to access the secure server and circumvents some degree of blocking. If you already know that then pardon me for my nosiness. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 15:52, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your advice! I don't think simply changing "http" will allow you to circumvent blocking. But a number of proxy sites have been set up to access the blocked Wikipedia in Uzbekistan, such as http://unitex.uz/. Nataev (talk) 16:09, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

The WikiProject Film Award

		The WikiProject Film Award
		I, jonkerz, hereby award Nataev the WikiProject Film Award for his/her valued contributions to WikiProject Film. Your contributions to Uzbekistan-related articles has not gone unnoticed. Keep up the good work! Awarded 12:26, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks! Nataev (talk) 12:28, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for the barnstar. Somebody taking notice of one's work is always a great boost to one's ego. Not sure what I did to deserve it, but thank you. Bgwhite (talk) 18:52, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

I totally agree with you! It's always nice when people notice your work. I gave you the barnstar because you have cleaned up hundreds of articles. Keep it up! Nataev (talk) 19:01, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Re: 2010 South Kyrgyzstan riots

Hi. I see the merger proposal is from 2010, and there seems to have been very little discussion about it. In these circumstances, I think it's ok to remove it, as long as you explain why. Aridd (talk) 07:38, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! Will do. Nataev (talk) 07:39, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Chiming in a little late here, but the work you've done on that article looks good. Dawnseeker2000 02:16, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Dawnseeker2000! Nataev (talk) 05:09, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Keep going: http://uz.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elektrogitara Akmalzhon 16:33, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! I will! Nataev (talk) 16:37, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi

Hi, nice to meet you too :D Here's a link to translatewiki if you're interested in translating to Uzbek: info page and main message group - thanks! Regards, SPQRobin (talk) 03:38, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! I will definitely take a look at it. Nataev (talk)

Re: I woke up late, I'm currently still at the hostel downstairs. Where are you? SPQRobin (talk) 16:18, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Geotags

Answer on my talk page. Thanks for making contact. --ClemRutter (talk) 09:20, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Nataev (talk) 10:16, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Re: Coordinates

Hi. Sorry; I really don't know. For lack of anything more specific, I would assume you can use the coordinates of the town, yes. Aridd (talk) 10:26, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

ClemRutter (talk) helped me out. Thanks for replying! Nataev (talk) 10:41, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Hello, the school article's existing coordinates show a building about 400 meters to the southeast of the town's coordinates. Is that the high school building? Dawnseeker2000 13:50, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

I double-checked. The coordinates are correct. I saw satellite images and identified the building. Nataev (talk) 13:55, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Re: Navoiy

That part about the Bakhshis was actually there before my edit. After your message, I tried to look for a source for that statement, but failed, so I removed it. Regards, Shrigley (talk) 21:33, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Awesome! Good job! Nataev (talk) 05:18, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

re: Riots vs Ethnic Violence

Hello Nataev,

Looks like you have moved the article and it seems OK. Good work there! Dawnseeker2000 03:55, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! Yes, I have moved the article. Everybody said it was OK. Nataev (talk) 06:37, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

userpage

I got most of it. I don't really know coding. Maybe shrink the ball. Let me think about it.....Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:03, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

WOW! Thank you very much! It looks great! And you responded really fast! Thank you again! Nataev (talk) 08:06, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Maybe I should remove the globe. Nataev (talk) 08:09, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you again. You did an amazing job! Nataev (talk) 09:59, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Uzbek ʻokina

Hi, thanks for your interesting RM on those films. Excuse my ignorance, but what is the correct Uzbek name for this Okina-like symbol? It should be noted on 'Okina and Uzbek alphabet. Thanks In ictu oculi (talk) 06:42, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Done! Thanks for bringing this to my attention! Nataev (talk) 08:18, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

ʻOkina or the single opening quotation mark?

Is the symbol used in the Uzbek language really 'Okina? From what I've seen, most Uzbek government websites use a single opening quotation mark instead. In fact, I've never come upon one that uses okina. The Uzbek Wikipedia seems to be the only place it is used. – amateur (talk) 22:21, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Many people don't know how to find the ʻokina on their computers. Take a look at this spelling dictionary. Uzbek government sites are just as crappy as many other Uzbek sites. What do you mean you have never come upon a site that uses the ʻokina? As if you have seen all the Uzbek websites. One of the most popular Uzbek websites is Ozodlik and it's clear to a fool that they use the ʻokina. Nataev (talk) 08:00, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Ozodlik uses the single opening quotation mark, not the ʻokina. The spelling dictionary does not specify which Unicode character to use on computers. – amateur (talk) 14:46, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Nobody knows for sure whether the ʻokina or the single opening quotation mark should be used in Uzbek. They look exactly similar: ʻ (U+02BB) and ‘ (U+2018). As long as one of them is used instead of the English apostrophe, it is fine. Of course the dictionary does not specify which Unicode character to use on computers. What spelling dictionary on earth species what Unicode characters to use? I can't find a single Uzbek website that properly explains all the rules of the new Latin script. Nataev (talk) 15:27, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Then I think we should look at what the governmental websites use, and as I previously said, they use the quotation mark.

So, I think the recent edits on pages 'Okina and Uzbek alphabet that identify the symbol as okina should be reversed, as the proper symbol is most probably a quotation mark. – amateur (talk) 16:23, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

As I said before, we can't solely rely on governmental websites. If it was a governmental website about the Uzbek language, we could say we should use the quotation mark. Maybe governmental websites use the quotation mark because they couldn't find the okina. We can't be sure. Nataev (talk) 16:26, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

When I looked up Oʻzbekiston (U+02BB), Google gave me 5,340,000 results. When I looked up O‘zbekiston (U+2018), I got 4,870,000 results. So it's really not clear which character should be used. I've updated the articles on the ʻokina and Uzbek alphabet. That's all we can do for now I think. Please take a look. Nataev (talk) 19:15, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Looks like that's the best we can do for the time being. – amateur (talk) 00:01, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes. Here's a website that uses the ʻokina. I've significantly changed the article on the Uzbek language. Take a look if you're interested. Nataev (talk) 21:23, 7 December 2012 (UTC)