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Happy New Year

• Happy New Year. Keep up the good work! North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 15:14, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

@Northamerica1000: Thanks, you too! — Mudwater ^(Talk) 23:51, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

@ Black Muddy River...(Mudwater): Foodie deadheads on Wikipedia. WTF?! North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 08:02, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

@Northamerica1000: Oooh, emoji. Nice! — Mudwater ^(Talk) 11:36, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

Half Acre

The page on the webiste you're looking at does read a bit ambiguous... all it says is that 'we're building a restaurant and will host tours in the coming months' (meaning they haven't opened the beer garden or the tap room/restaurant yet)...but the part that you are possibly overlooking is the second sentence on the page where it says 'Built in 2015...' because they started doing production for all the year-round availibility beers (Daisy Cutter, Pony and Lead Feather) at Balmoral in 2015. I've got friends in the industry, so that's why I keep up with this kind of stuff, plus I hit the tap room up on Linclon every other week and chat with the guys working there. But they're most definitely brewing beer in the new location (which is also why they overhauled the website a few weeks ago to make it ready for events going on at the Balmoral location when the pub opens). The new operation is also largely why can get Daisy Cutter in places like Bolingbrook and Aurora now, because before they use to have barely enough production to cover the city limits. The Balmoral location started brewing in like May or June I wanna say? Hopefully that clears it up for you. Cheers. Ryecatcher773 (talk) 02:38, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

@Ryecatcher773: Yes, that's what I wanted to know. Thanks! — Mudwater ^(Talk) 02:41, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Pizza Puffs

Hallo Mudwater, I moved your info about Pizza puff to Panzerotto, where I think it belongs. In fact, except (part of) its name, there is not much which resembles a pizza in this dish, while according to its preparation and ingredients it is clear to me that it is a variation on a panzerotto's theme. ;-) Feel free anyway to start a discussion thread on the Pizza article if you don't agree with me and to revert me, of course. ;-) Ciao, Alex2006 (talk) 17:26, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

@Alex2006: Thanks for letting me know. A pizza puff is a lot closer to a panzerotto than it is to a pizza, so that probably makes sense. — Mudwater ^(Talk) 18:47, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! ;-) Alex2006 (talk) 11:41, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	A recent IP edit made me glance at List of regional dishes of the United States for the first time in a while. The work that you and NA1000 did there a while back is really remarkable, and it is a truly wonderful list. Thanks for tracking all those dishes down! Antepenultimate (talk) 05:24, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

@Antepenultimate: Thanks again for the nice feedback, it's appreciated. — Mudwater ^(Talk) 00:40, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

New list

Help to expand List of restaurants in the Las Vegas Valley if you're interested. See the talk page there for more info. Cheers, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 18:25, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

List of Breweries . . . . NNs

I'm eyeballing List of breweries in Washington and wondering about unredlinking and removing the non-notables. But it's also a lot of breweries--maybe more than half the list. Thoughts? Prof. Mc (talk) 14:50, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

@Prof. Mc: For the Washington breweries that don't have their own Wikipedia articles, I'd be more in favor of adding at least one secondary source for each, rather than removing them. Of course that can be a rather laborious process, but I think it's a better way to improve the article. I might help with that, if and when I get the time. As far as un-red-linking, I'd be in favor of it, but as you can see that seems to be a bit controversial at the moment, with Hawaii. — Mudwater ^(Talk) 23:29, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm happy to help with finding secondary sources, but it'll be a few days. You wanna start at the top of the list, I'll start at the bottom? We'll meet somewhere in the middle, hopefully? Prof. Mc (talk) 13:55, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

@Prof. Mc: That sounds like a good plan, and I'll keep it in mind, but I don't know when or if I'll get to it. Still, it could happen! — Mudwater ^(Talk) 00:53, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

@Prof. Mc: Well, I've started working on this, here. But, as they say, past performance does not guarantee future results. — Mudwater ^(Talk) 02:56, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, well, you got off to a faster start that I will, for sure. lol. Also, the bottom category, "Newly-Licensed" seems especially wobbly. "Licensed" does not mean "in operation," and seems to be a way of putting something on the list that hasn't yet opened. Prof. Mc (talk) 13:48, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

@Prof. Mc: I'm good with removing any breweries that aren't actually open for business yet. WP:FUTURE, and all that. — Mudwater ^(Talk) 23:33, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Page Ideas

Thanks for Shrine Auditorium 67 page (and work to date). There's another vinyl breakout from the 30 Trips box coming in a few weeks. I'm wanting to add a section on Bear's Choice LP page re the arrival/importance of the dancing bears but am unsure about graphic availability for (likely necessary) illustrative purposes. Also, not keen on the intro to Without a Net focusing on manner of Mydland's demise - planning to rewrite - will do that or post a proof at some point and add content.  Cheers
also - read the ping link - could not make heads/tails how to use for PM Tangverse (talk) 17:20, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

@Tangverse: (1) Thanks for the feedback. (2) You can "ping" someone using the {{Re}} template. That's what I did here, to notify you. That is, I included {{Re|Tangverse}} in this post. (You also have to sign the post with four tildes for this to work.) (3) I'd say go for it on the Without a Net intro. (4) The dancing bears artwork is included at Grateful Dead#Artwork. It's a copyrighted image, but it's okay to include it there because it's one of the band's logos. I'm not 100% sure but it might be okay to also include it in the Bear's Choice article. (5) What's the next 30 Trips vinyl release, and how do you know? (6) I'm going to post separately on your talk page, continuing our discussion there. — Mudwater ^(Talk) 01:23, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Terrapin IPA

For lending the most valuable asset: time. Tangverse (talk) 09:37, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Invitation

Per our work together on List of regional dishes of the United States, I invite you to chip in to improve Traditional food, an article I started a while back and have been working on. Check it out! North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 11:16, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

AfD

Hi Mudwater: A recent edit you performed at AfD has been reverted. You may want to check it out. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 03:43, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

@Northamerica1000: AfD, forsooth. — Mudwater ^(Talk) 08:21, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Scarlet Begonias, etc.

Thank you for the warm welcome. I'm impressed with your work on the Dead, and Bromberg. I hope to work on the Scarlet Begoinas page some more. I'd like to expand on the gamblilng imagry thought but I need to find the citations first. Please let me know if I'm stepping on toes or screwing things up. Bobwurst (talk) 14:11, 15 April 2016 (UTC)BobwurstBobwurst (talk) 14:11, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

@Bobwurst: Thanks for the feedback. Yes, find the citations first! That's the key to having other editors accept your contributions. "P.S." To sign your posts on talk pages, just put four tildes at the end. When you type them in it'll look like this: ~~~~ — Mudwater ^(Talk) 23:20, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Wild new articles

List of baked goods created today! I've sent this message to the few remaining Wikipedia users I know nowadays that may still be into food list articles (Anna F, Dennis B, Mudwater). Sometimes people are busy, or not interested, so if nobody adds anything, I'll hold it against you forever (ha ha.) I also spun-out List of buns from bun today. Complain to me on my talk page, or here, or both. Enjoy pizza emoji, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 05:29, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

@Northamerica1000: Sweet! — Mudwater ^(Talk) 08:13, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

A beer for you! ! !

MudH2O: Thanks for your ongoing contributions to Wikipedia, and hope you and yours are doing well. Cheers, North America1000 04:53, 6 May 2016 (UTC) — RIP Prince — (start at around 3:20)

@Northamerica1000: Thanks for the beer. That'll help wash down all that cheese. — Mudwater ^(Talk) 11:48, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

@Northamerica1000: By the way, and for whatever it's worth, I've now created a grand total of one article about food. It's Sonoran hot dog. It's no Cuisine of New Orleans, or List of regional dishes of the United States, but it does have its modest charms. (Principally, nice footnotes, and a couple of decent photos.) — Mudwater ^(Talk) 23:42, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Interesting hot dog version, never heard of it before. It seems a bit healthy, with all of the additional ingredients. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 10:08, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

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Darkstar teaser?

Hey Mudwater: Thanks for your contributions to the encyclopedia. Check out this fair use Carlos/Garcia stuff: Darkstar teaser (?) at around 2:30. And another decent jam at around 5:04. Psychedelic Carlos and Garcia. Almost like acid jazz? North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 04:10, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

Thank You

		A beer on me!
		For contributing editorial time & sharing WIKI knowledge

Beer discussion

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Beer#Awards which you may wish to participate in. Thank you. --MelanieN (talk) 18:02, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	For all your work on the beer articles Prof. Mc (talk) 17:40, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

@Prof. Mc: Thanks! — Mudwater ^(Talk) 01:13, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Another list

The more I expand List of travelers, the more fascinating I find the subjects to be. Since you dig lists, perhaps you'd be into chipping in to help expand this article. If not, then that's all right too. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 08:54, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

@Northamerica1000: Thanks. Looks intriguing. Hey, speaking of lists... Can you think of a reliable third-party reference, or references, for who is a superhero and who isn't? If so, or even if not, feel free to chime in at Talk:List of superhero television series#Inclusion criteria. Cuz, I think we're gonna need some refs there, or no tellin' what might happen. — Mudwater ^(Talk) 22:38, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

I may not become involved in the discussion at the talk page, but I have added some sources and additions to the article. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:35, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

@Northamerica1000: Good, thanks. — Mudwater ^(Talk) 01:36, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

More sources are available using custom searches in Google Books. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 00:05, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

Grateful Dead -- genre

Hey! I'm Zach. Just asking about the Grateful Dead page. Under genres it only says Rock, which makes a lot of sense because their music encompassed an incredible number of genres and evolved greatly overtime. However, I think just having "Rock" somewhat belittles the unique, unprecedented style of music they played and instead groups them in with other less interesting bands who also played classic "Rock". Because of this, I think we should include the various genres on the page, mostly the main ones. For example, psychedelic rock, folk rock, jam band, bluegrass, country rock, rock and roll, blues, rhythm and blues. This should encompass a very great majority of their music. Please consider. Thanks :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zumus749 (talk • contribs) 03:05, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

@Zumus749: Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. If you look at Talk:Grateful Dead#Genre in infobox, it refers to an earlier discussion at Talk:Grateful Dead/Archive 1#Genre. The upshot is that in previous discussions, the idea of just saying "rock" prevailed -- partly because the guideline is to stay general and brief in the infobox, and partly because the Dead had so many influences that it's really hard to know where to draw the line, resulting in long-term "genre creep". So, I still like "rock", but if you want to discuss this more, I suggest posting in the Talk:Grateful Dead#Genre in infobox thread. "P.S." If you have any questions about how to do stuff, I might be able to answer them, so feel free to post here on my talk page. — Mudwater ^(Talk) 03:20, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Hey, there's even some disco influences too, right?..."Nothin' shakin' on shakedown street..." North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 06:13, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

@Northamerica1000: For sheer Disco Dead brilliance, it's hard to top the "Dancin' in the Streets" from the 5/8/77 Barton Hall show. — Mudwater ^(Talk) 19:44, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

That's a much better example compared to my lyric quote... North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 11:00, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

5 Rabbit

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the editor who nominated the article for deletion hadn't even heard of the brewery prior to his accidental discovery of it via Google. But as it crosses over two Wikiprojects I'm part of (Chicago and Beer) I couldn't stand by idly. Regarding the 'See also'... aside from the coincidental jab at Trump, the two have no more real connection than Goodyear Tires and Hoppin Frog brewery do (i.e. both are in the same city/metro and both make things people buy). Cheers! Ryecatcher773 (talk) 01:59, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

I got a good laugh upon reading about the beer name change in the article. Silly, but funny, a bit of a surprise when reading the article. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 06:28, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Halloween cheer!

Happy Halloween!

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Hello Mudwater:
Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable Halloween!
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@Northamerica1000: Thanks. You too! — Mudwater ^(Talk) 01:43, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Street foods

Per our recent collaboration on the list article, here's a template for you! North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 12:53, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

• This week's article for improvement (week 44, 2016)

Street food vendors at a roadside market just outside of Hua Hin District, Thailand Hello, Mudwater. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Street food Please be bold and help to improve this article! Previous selections: Attic • Noise Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations North America1000 12:53, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

@Northamerica1000: Today's article for improvement for this week? No wonder I'm so confused. — Mudwater ^(Talk) 22:14, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

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@Sfan00 IMG: Thanks for letting me know. It turns out that a recent edit messed up the infobox in the Philly '76 article. I've fixed that, here. — Mudwater ^(Talk) 11:22, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

Season's Greetings

Hello Mudwater: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 15:30, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

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@Northamerica1000: Thanks, you too! — Mudwater ^(Talk) 16:44, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!

	Happy Holidays!
	Hi, Mudwater! Have a happy and safe season, and a blessed new year! Holiday cheers, --Discographer (talk) 00:13, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

@Discographer: Thanks, you too! — Mudwater ^(Talk) 00:25, 24 December 2016 (UTC)