Msui772

justine suissa

Justine ain't english. just saying. She didn't land in england untill her mid 20's. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.101.62.73 (talk) 08:58, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

MIlly I know that's you, lol. we both know your sister ain't english, she's about as english as that boeing 737-800 that I just got done flying a few hours ago. Even if you dno't like me putting her name on the article, she's not english. How do i know? I've spoken with the damn woman myself. I'm no expert in accents, but i'm sure that was a brooklyn accent i heard from her mouth, unless she's a damn good actor and impressionist. even if you want to change my edit around, she's not english, i'll swear tha ton my honor as a pilot. unless new york is part of england now, i don't know. I do know she's not english and we'd all like this crap of "justine suissa english singer" to cease forever." thanks

Eric Ramus — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.101.62.73 (talk) 09:07, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

I seriously suspect you have the wrong person. Justine Suissa is my sister and I KNOW she is English. She never changed her name and has nothing to do with an Eloise Sturgeon. If you want to create a page for Eloise Sturgeon please do so, but changing Justine Suissa's page is not appropriate. The Justine Suissa who sings with OceanLab and Above & Beyond is English and wasn't born in America and wasn't born 26th March 1976. (She was born in March but I'm not saying what year. M. Suissa. Being English myself (born and raised Mancunian) I can clearly tell when i'm hearing an american. while true no interviews of her exist on youtube, I have no proof that you're name is Mildred Ann Suissa, rather I believe you're Mildred ann Sturgeon. Reasons: 1: I litterally mentioned to you (assuming you are milly sturgeon) that I made the edits to Justine's page on april 6, and just 30 or so minutes later the changes get reverted. Now you can say that i have no proof that i am a 31 (almost 32) year old pilot name Eric ramus, and that's fair. How do i know you're even related to Justine Suissa. I could say I'm related to Tina OBrien and that she was born in February of 1990, but no proof exists of this. Hell given that I'm in Canada right now I have no proof that I'm Mancunian. So like me, you have no proof that Justine Suissa is anything but a best friend to you. Her singing voice alone disproves her english origins. and 1976 is her birth year, i was at her party this year. If you are her sister you'd actually know me well. I've known her for a few years now through skype chats and a physical meeting in 2015.

Long rambly post asside, i have no proof that you are Justine (Ellie)'s sister, let alone that you even known her at all, and you have no proof for me. SO how about let's show eachother proof. Once you do, then i'll happily admit i was wrong. Or at least show me a recording of Justine's speaking voice and the accent from england better be real and legit, otherwise she's american and that's that.

PS, I hope you're for real, because i've delt with people claiming to be related to people before for 9 years on the internet, and they all turned out to be fakes. Heck I got a message from someone claiming to be Kirsty Hawkshaw, but turned out to be some idiot in Liverpool using a swedish IP address. thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.101.62.73 (talk) 11:09, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

another point mildred, is you better come up with some proof not just for me, but for others. I mean you're claiming to be her sister, and you're awefully protective of her page on wikipedia, that nobody knows she was born in 1976 like billions of other people. I'm tough about this due to the many fakes i've encountered over 9 years. so alls i need is to hear Justine's speaking voice and bing bang boom there you go that's the proof. and being good with voices I'll be able to tell if it's real or fake. SO if you are who you say you are, then it'll be no problem proving it. I'm not claiming to be related to anyone, and when i mention it, i admit i have no proof. You want an example: I'm actually Luke Chable's cousin. However, no proof exists of this. now it's possible that you are indeed justine suissa's real life sister, i haven't ruled out that possibility, yet. but claiming "she's so english and i know because i am her sister." You won't even allow her birth year of 1976 to be noted anywhere because you're ultra protective or something. this lends suspician to your claims and causes your credibility to drop faster than a 737 with no engines and a broken wing. I actually think that the reason nwhy you won't admit that she was born in 1976 is because you're affraid that i may look up birth records for people born in 1976 in the UK to see if it's for real. Now remember, in spite of the fact that i'm asking for proof, i haven't completely ruled out the possibility that you're legit. However, you must understand why people may think you're messing with them when you claim to be Justine (ellie)'s sister. JThe same way I recognize that people may doubt me if i went around stating that I'm Luke Chable's cousin. In other words, while you may possibly be the real deal, you have to realize that the lack of proof may prove damning to your arguments. so I ask that you please be ready to prove it should people ask. So, if you won't give me a voice recording or link me to a vid where she speaks and I can clearly hear that she's english like me, at least give me her birth year (i already know it's 1976) and i'll look up her birth records. if they turn out true true ture, then i'll admit i was wrong wrong wrong. I'm not above admitting that i'm wrong. Thing is though, i can't just believe one's good word. Likewise I'd expect the same from other people on me. so your skepticism is understandable. Anyway get in touch with me when you can show me at least something that I can go on, because right now, I'm convinced that Eloise Justine Sturgen is Justine Suissa, but i'm open to being proven wrong. Who knows, maybe Justine's been messing with me this whole time. Maybe she really is English, and Ellie is just an online character she does on skype. Though why she'd do it in person is beyond me. She looks exactly the same though, the voice is unmistakable and I remember her birthday party. Pluss Ellie's mother's maiden name is Suissa, and her great grandmother's name was Justine Moreen Suissa, but she died long before 2000. sorry for the length, but hopefully you get where my skepticism is from. thanks

Eric Ramus — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.101.62.73 (talk) 11:43, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Wow - that was a long post! 1) I said she was my sister and not the other way around. I am in fact her brother. 2) She is a private person and quite capable of updating her own information - if she wants to share her age with her fans - that is up to her. I am, as you say, protective and keen to contribute to maintaining true facts on Wikipedia. As she is currently in a Chicago hotel without a laptop, it is a little difficult for her to update her page... (not impossible granted, but as she is on tour she has other priorities). 3) Proof that she is English and from London is difficult to provide. I could of course refer you to her facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/justine.suissa.9 but you might say I created that... or her linkedIn page: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justine-suissa-116466105 Both state she is from London. I accept that you wish to contibute in good faith. I know you are mistaken as I grew up with my sister in London and haven't heard about her origins on a radio show or elsewhere. Honestly, I don't know why you think I am Milly, (my name is in fact Michael),and my surname is of course the same as my sister's (as she hasn't change name) and as for the speed of reaction - it is thanks to an email alert provided by wikipedia. Msui772 (talk) 14:05, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

BUt you see my point? I have no way of knowing who the heck you are based on a user name or one's good word. Like i said, i poset the example of me being Luke Chable's cousin. I can't prove that in any way, and while I hope that people will believe it, i know that some may not. so hopefully your encounter with me alerts you to the possibility that one may not believe who you are, even if others do. Now you are a bit more canded than others whom i've encountered, which lends a little credability to you. I then invite you to find a way to leg Justine know about this. However you still haven't explained the birthday party as well as the person with an identical voice (no english accent) and identical looks that i've spoken with. Again it's possible that Justine was just doing a character just in case some faboy/fangirl goes all gaga talking to her or something, i'm not taking that possibility out. So don't go thinking that i don't necessarily believe you, it's more like i'm not sure what to believe. I'm open, I just want to make sure based on various experiences I've had over 9 years with people claiming to be celebs or related to celebs. I mention again someone claiming to be Kirsty Hawkshaw that contacted me in 2013, and turned out to be a swedish kid after some investigation. I've also delt with some nitwits who claim that Whigfield is actually the voice of a woman named Annerley Gordon including someone claiming to be gordon herself. again, it turned out to be fake. So i hope you understand why I like to make sure of who i'm dealing with. and sorry for the long long posts. I want to get my point across without leaving people as they say, hanging.

Eric Ramus

Your points are well made if somewhat verbose. I explained who I am but then again, what does it matter who I am? Simply put, I am correcting a wikipedia entry with information backed up from two web sources. You are making changes based on hearsay. Surely before you make changes you should have more tangible proof?

Msui772 (talk) 16:45, 10 May 2016 (UTC) You know, i must thank you. You've been a hellof a lot more understanding than other people i've incountered on the website. and If i do come off as a dick on the whole proof thing, then sorry about that. It's just with all the people i've dealt with, it's hard to know who to believe and who not to. so thanks for understanding.

Eric Ramus — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.101.62.73 (talk) 23:29, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

thank you

Hey Michael, this is Eric Ramus again. I'd like to thank you for being candid twards my concirns earlier. I do tend to come off as a bit of a cock to people some times when they say certain things, but you've taken it well. I do my best to not be a complete dick to people, because that's not who I am. I still invite you to show Justine about this whole thing when she has the time and if she'd be willing to look at it, as it'll clear up things both on and off Wiki. I still wonder who that was that I encountered at that March birthday party, as the voice resembles hers so much, and she knew an aweful lot about Justine. ANyway thanks for being cool about everything, and I wish you and Justine the best.

PS if Justine wants to ever leave a message on my taklpage, just put it under the misc section. she doesn't have to, but I'm just saying if she wants to after seeing this then she can. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.101.62.73 (talk) 00:14, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

Nomination of Justine Suissa for deletion

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