Mrjames 9999

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Verifiability and self-published sources

Among Wikipedia policies are the verifiability and reliable sources guideline. The verifiability policy, states that contents that are added to an article must be sourced to a reliable source. As part of the Wikipedia policy it states that it "not acceptable in Wikipedia to cite self-published books, newsletters, personal websites, open wikis, blogs, knols, podcasts, vcasts, patents, patent applications, forum postings, and similar sources." One of the sources you used in the Khadijih Bagum article was Mírzá Habíbu’lláh Afnán, Memories of the Báb Bahá’u’lláh and ‘Abdu’l-Bahá is self-published and is not permissible as a source. Regards and wecome, -- Jeff3000 (talk) 01:11, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry

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Policies

Remember we are writing an encyclopedia. The dates of birth and death of the wives is not apporpriate to the article on the subject of Baha'u'llah. That's what wikilinks are for. If a user cares for them, they can go to that article and see the details. Secondly the titles of the wives, not only, not being important to the subject of Baha'u'llah, is also not neutral. Imagine writing as a secular editor; the article would be based on who married whom, when and so forth. The titles would not appear, cerainily not at the beginning of an article. Remember this is not a Baha'i encyclopedia, and the content should not be phrased in a Baha'i viewpoint. Finally much of what you are referencing are books published by the Baha'i publishing Trust. Those sources can be used to account for Baha'i belief, but not for things like this. You'll notice that all the encyclopedic articles about Baha'u'llah don't treat the wives in such a way.

Finally, you are removing the correct way of formatting the references which are to use the {{Harvnb}} template to link the authors to the full references. You need to edit in a more constructive way that is not so slanted in a Baha'i view. Regards, -- Jeff3000 (talk) 19:59, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

That other pages are wrong, doesn't make it right to do something that is wrong. Other religious articles that have content based on their own material does not make it neutral and readers reading them will see that, and it will be less use in informing the reader. Read the Wikipedia policies, and see how other academic encyclopedias are formatted. Neither one allows for the dates of other that the principle subject to be included. Also read the policies on reliable sources, and neutral point of view, as well as the Manual of Style. These are Wikipedia's policies. Some sources are more acceptable than others. I didn't make them up. Regards, -- Jeff3000 (talk) 20:08, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Not true. You added something about the marriages. I didn't remove the content, I just copyedited it be inline with the policies. Trying to abide by the policies is not being unreasonable, it's following the rules in a community. If you want to be a part of the community you should follow the rules yourself. Regards, -- Jeff3000 (talk)

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Neutral Point of View

Wikipedia's Neutral Point of View is very important policy to grasp. You'll find the established Baha'i editors here generally interpret and implement that policy strictly. Ciao, MARussellPESE (talk) 14:48, 19 January 2009 (UTC)