User talk:MrX/DT lead COVID-19

Clutter

Could we lose the N's and the bespoke colors and symbols? SPECIFICO talk 20:25, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

 Possibly I would support removing the Ns. I would strongly oppose removing the colors for same reason that I oppose removing them from traffic signals. The only symbols are - and +. Is that what you mean? - MrX 🖋 20:44, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

I meant the rogue colors. There shouldn't be shades of oppose. Too goofy. SPECIFICO talk 20:55, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Yesa. Like, what is O+? Something so exquisite that it Trump's consensus? It's just a dang checklist. TMI+. SPECIFICO talk 21:02, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

I'm not opposed to removing them, or leaving them. It might be good to get a couple more opinions: Pinging MelanieN, Mandruss, and Emir of Wikipedia who have expressed an interest in the table. - MrX 🖋 21:17, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

I think neutral votes show that people voted for those options and not that they ignored considering them, but I am not really bothered if they are removed. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 21:20, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

It is just better visual communication to keep it minimal. The premise must be that nobody ignored the options. SPECIFICO talk 21:24, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

If the words "weak" and "strong" have significant meaning in supports and opposes, reflecting them in the table is merely accurate. Otherwise significant meaning would be lost in the translation. In my experience many, many experienced editors think the words have significant meaning. ―Mandruss ☎ 21:28, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Nope. That gradation and reasoning is on the talk page. But feel free to start an ReC about how many colors and emojis can be added here. SPECIFICO talk 21:33, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Also pinging starship.paint - MrX 🖋 21:34, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

As for the N's: A "neutral" !vote is close enough to no !vote as to be superfluous. You might as well list the article regulars who didn't comment at all. The N's could go. ―Mandruss ☎ 21:46, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

What about someone like Atsme who opposed all? Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 21:47, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Are you asking me personally whether I support what has already been said about that at the ATP? If so, I can see both arguments and I abstain on that point. ―Mandruss ☎ 22:11, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

I was asking everyone here if they those votes should be included in the table, nothing more and nothing less. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 10:42, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. In that case I've adjusted the indents per WP:THREAD, so it no longer appears that your comment was a reply to mine. ―Mandruss ☎ 20:43, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

No opinion. Carry on. starship.paint (talk) 03:20, 31 July 2020 (UTC)