MonaPisser

Ahmed Hassan Imran

Not to offend but your sudden edits on the page without participating in the discussion is quite suspicious and your username seem to me unusual.MehulWB (talk) 17:35, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

My name is an iconic combination of Mona (Lisa) and (Mannekin) Pisser. (C)asserted. MonaPisser (talk) 17:54, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Recent edit to Ahmed Hassan Imran

Hello, and thank you for your recent contribution. I appreciate the effort you made for our project, but unfortunately I had to undo your edit because I believe the article was better before you made that change. Feel free to contact me directly if you have any questions. Thank you! --I am Kethrus ^{Talk to me!} 17:44, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

November 2014

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you remove or blank page content or templates from Wikipedia, as you did at Ganga. You keep leaving edit messages saying consensus is needed but you are unilaterally removing large sections of sourced content from stable articles. Mfield (Oi!) 18:09, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing, as you did at Ganga. Your edits have been reverted or removed.

• If you are engaged in an article content dispute with another editor, discuss the matter with the editor at their talk page, or the article's talk page. Alternatively you can read Wikipedia's dispute resolution page, and ask for independent help at one of the relevant notice boards.
• If you are engaged in any other form of dispute that is not covered on the dispute resolution page, seek assistance at Wikipedia's Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents.

Do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive until the dispute is resolved through consensus. Continuing to edit disruptively may result in your being blocked from editing. See also WP:POVFORK Abecedare (talk) 18:12, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Who has a dispute with my edits ? Its clearly explained. "Ganges" is the name for the pre-Independence river. Now it is "Ganga" in India and "Padma" in BD. MonaPisser (talk) 18:14, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

• "On the other hand, as an article grows, editors often create summary-style spin-offs or new, linked article for related material. This is acceptable, and often encouraged, as a way of making articles clearer and easier to manage." How is all the Hindu symbolism relevant to Bangladesh after 1947 when all the Hindus have left from there.MonaPisser (talk) 18:16, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Please explain

Why your first 3 edits with this account were to another users userpage, who is apparently on a break, immediately followed by controversial edits to topic areas with which that user account was heavily associated. Given that you are clearly an experienced user that has just created a new account, it seems highly likely that you have done that either to avoid associating these edits with another account, or to get around a block. Either would be considered abusing multiple accounts. Please clarify. Mfield (Oi!) 18:31, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Please assume AGF. My expertise is on an INDIC language Wiki, and my inexperience with Mediawiki is quite apparent. I have no grievance with Mr.Fowler - I only object to his undeserved barnstar.

It would have been 1 edit, but an anti-vandal filter made me do it in 3 stages. I first did it as an IP but the filter wouldn't let me. I've reported the false positive as an IPv6. I then opened an account to remove that Barnstar. Now I want to use the account to the max. Had the filter NOT been here, I would not have opened the a/c or edited.

QED --> AGF MonaPisser (talk) 18:39, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

You want people to assume good faith but you first edit is to remove a barnstar from another editor's user page? You claim to only have editing history/experience on another language wiki yet you apparently sufficient experience of this one to decide if another editor's barnstar is merited? As you are obviously aware of our policies, and are flaunting them regardless, you are unlikely to find the community willing to see you continue participating in this manner for much longer. Mfield (Oi!) 18:51, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

And your point is ? My removal of the Barnstar is apparent from the Source. I have nothing to say about Mr.Fowler. But his nomination for the WIKI-India-2011 award was withdrawn, hence its Barnstar is undeserved. MonaPisser (talk) 18:55, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

The user Ashlin who awarded that Barnstar felt he deserved it. That's simply enough. Your personal feelings on it don't mean anything. Your removal and repeated removal(that got you banned) is simply disruptive.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 05:06, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Your edit is contradicted by AshLin's actual text, viz. This user has been nominated by the community of Indian editors for recognition as a Noteworthy Wikimedian at WikiConference India 2011. The nom was by a non-Indian Editor, wrongly fwd'ed by AshLin and was "withdrawn" under controversial circumstances and protests. This seems to be a personal apology to F&F by AshLin. MonaPisser (talk) 17:59, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Yes you have an opinion. That's great you can have an opinion. You can't remove barnstars from anothers userpage because you have an opinion. You can leave a message for Fowler&fowler on their talk page and tell them that you don't feel that barnstar was earned. If they care about you have to say they can remove it if they choose.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 23:08, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

All content in Wikipedia must be VERIFIABLE. The text accompanying the Barnstar is verifiably inaccurate. MonaPisser (talk) 05:34, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

After this ban is up and you remove it again, they will block you again for a longer time or perhaps indefinitely.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 07:09, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. What do you suggest I do about that barnstar in accordance with Wikipedia's rules, regulations, policies, guidelines, essays, privacy policies etc ? Do you think it is a good idea to complain to the India Wiki chapter who organized the 2011 conference that their name is being misused here to post dummy awards ? MonaPisser (talk) 18:21, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

I STRONGLY suggest you drop it. What happens on another Wiki has ZERO relevance here. This kind of primary focus on the activities and intentions of other editors needs to stop immediately. You need to demonstrate a desire to contribute positively to the project, as right now you only appear to be here to cause trouble, and continuing on that tack is going to get you blocked indefinitely. This edit of yours only reinforces that opinion. Mfield (Oi!) 19:30, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Caution noted. However, since you raise WP:NOTHERE, its curious that an editor common to both involved Wikis, misuses this Wiki to promote the other (smaller) local wiki's non-existent nomination (carefully disguised by multiple soft redirects). I, and God knows who else, received an email (out of the blue) from the smaller wiki's mailing list by an agitated editor of this Wiki referring to the barnstar and its circumstances. So I "AMHERE" MonaPisser (talk) 19:45, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

You could do as I suggest above and contact Fowler&fowler and tell them it bothers you and ask them to remove it. Beyond that you could drop it.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 23:58, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

@Mfield:, @Serialjoepsycho:, @MonaPisser:, the contention by User:MonaPisser is blatantly false. I was an organiser, as part of Pune Community which helped Mumbai Community to organise Wiki India Conference 2011 in Mumbai. Wikimedia India Chapter suggested recognition of editors who had significantly contributed to Indic language Wikimedia Projects (including WikiProject India on English Wikipedia). As voluntary coordinator of WikiProject India, I asked for nominations of worthy editors from WikiProject India Conference attendees; User:Fowler&Fowler's nomination was one of those recieved. All names were discussed amongst the team of editors made responsible for this event (list of the team members available here). Those nominations considered valid were evaluated. At the end of the discussion, User:Bhadani was given an award as the most noteworthy editor on WikiProject India on English Wikipedia. The jury decided that while only one award was to be given, all nominees were to be honoured with barnstars. In my capacity as volunteer coordinator of WikiProject India, I placed a barnstar on the pages of all the eleven users who came up for consideration. The same day, I placed the results on WT:IN here. User:MonaPisser, is clearly a sock-puppet, and a malicious sock-puppet at that. This user is clearly hiding details of the Indic wikipedia which he/she supposedly belongs to, for fear of exposure, thus qualifying as a sockpuppet. This is a case of xenophobia and denigration of a non-Indian user who was honoured by the Indian Wikipedia community in 2011. I premise that User:Fowler&fowler's editting does not meet approval of this user and hence the attempt by this user to re-interpret events selectively. I severely condone this user's actions & imho this user should be reported. AshLin (talk) 15:32, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Hello AshLin, before we proceed, can u kindly confirm for the others here if it was you who, on 8 November 2014, circulated an email I received ending with the line The second objection I have is lack of courtesy & non-adherence to the AGF pillar, to which another editor promptly responded citing professor Fowler and your role in his felicitation. I request this kindness of you because some editors here have disbelieved such emails exist. Thanks. MonaPisser (talk) 16:36, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

I hasten to add you have self identified.MonaPisser (talk) 16:44, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Assuming good faith ended when false allegations were made by you. The statement about self-identification imo is implicative of an indirect threat to me in real life. Your comments about my partiality in felicitating Fowler&fowler deserve no response. AshLin (talk) 17:07, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

I don't see how you concluded that *I* sent either of those e-mails, or the "fouler" one after that. The statement about self-identification was to avert any misunderstanding about "OUTING". You're grasping at straws. here are facts, your facts.MonaPisser (talk) 17:19, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Ashlin, Happenings on another autonomous wiki don't especially concern us here, the issue for us is your statements made here. Your statement accompanying the barnstar is This user has been nominated by the community of Indian editors for recognition as a Noteworthy Wikimedian at WikiConference India 2011. Actually the nomination was submitted by a non-Indian 'User:RegentsPark'

Fowler&fowler is one of the steadiest contributors on India topics on the English wikipedia. He has worked extensively on Indian history topics, is responsible for the India page retaining its FA status. He has also contributed many (many!) images on India, ranging from clothing to painstaking uploads of public domain historical images.

and the following edit sequence occurred -

• (cur | prev) 21:34, 16 November 2011‎ AshLin (Talk | contribs)‎ (35 bytes) (Converted to redirect)
• (cur | prev) 12:32, 15 November 2011‎ AshLin (Talk | contribs)‎ (1,883 bytes) (ce)
• (cur | prev) 12:28, 15 November 2011‎ AshLin (Talk | contribs)‎ m (1,871 bytes) (moved NWR 2011:Fowler&fowler to NWR 2011:Fowler&fowler (withdrawn): Since not supposed to nominate)
• (cur | prev) 12:27, 15 November 2011‎ AshLin (Talk | contribs)‎ (1,871 bytes) (Nomination mistakenly forwarded by me, removed category, disclaimer added.)
• (cur | prev) 11:23, 15 November 2011‎ AshLin (Talk | contribs)‎ (1,802 bytes) (Created page for Fowler&fowler) MonaPisser (talk) 17:19, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

"weasel" - a small slippery animal - The jury decided that while only one award was to be given, all nominees were to be honoured with barnstars. .. really ?

• • In the interests of open-ness, I shall elaborate the circumstances. Initially nomination pages for Ganeshk & Fowler&fowler (my nominees) were created by me for those editors from en:WP at which point it was decided by the evaluation team that it would not be appropriate for the team members themselves to nominate hence I immediately withdrew my nominations of Ganeshk & Fowler&fowler. These were later renominated by different editors. No objection was made by anyone present during the process on the grounds that Fowler&fowler was a foreign user or that his nominator Regentspark was a foreign editor (which in keeping with Wikipedia's global participation was completely acceptable). The evaluation was down by a board of Indian Wikipedians so the language in the awarded barnstar was correct. Innuendo by MonaPisser only indicates the mischievous & xenophobic attitude of his/her & the much-vaunted "AGF" is conspicuously lacking here. As I said before, this is selective & malicious re-interpretation of events by User:MonaPisser and I do not intend to reply to this User's allegations anymore. AshLin (talk) 17:48, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
    • I also want to close this, since your own document disproves you [1], in any case thanks for causing me to open an account here. MonaPisser (talk) 17:53, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

November 2014

Stop pestering Fowler&fowler about his barnstar and his username unless you want to be blocked again. Your post on User talk:Fowler&fowler was removed by an administrator; please take a hint, and don't just reinsert things. Other people's userpages and barnstars are really none of your business, unless they should contain abuse or promotion. Even in such a case, it might be a good idea to leave removals and/or questions to more experienced users. For instance, such a one would probably have looked first at F&f's contributions and seen that he's been on break since May. It's pointless to ask him questions at this time. (Asking aggressive or personal questions is never appropriate.) Your note on NeilN's page is inappropriate too, by the way; please try to adopt a more collegial tone on this site. Bishonen | talk 20:52, 11 November 2014 (UTC).

Sure, will do. MonaPisser (talk) 20:55, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

And stop trolling Bish, too. The more I see you doing stuff, the more you remind me of Zuggernaut. That didn't end positively for them and this experience won't end positively for you unless you start to control your urges. - Sitush (talk) 22:19, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia (English) has 4.7 million pages, so where do you see me "doing stuff" ? Your fave Zuggernaut would have slammed back Deleting another users comment is a violation of the WP:TPO behavioral guideline. If you felt that WD post defamed or libeled you personally, you could have said so in your edit summary for TPOC instead of dragging 'Bish' into it. MonaPisser (talk) 23:48, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Sitush is welcome to use his own judgment in removing things on my talkpage. I realize you couldn't know that; still, if you want to be taken for a newbie, maybe don't flaunt your knowledge of arcana like the habits of Zuggernaut, who last edited in 2011, and the details of "the WP:TPO behavioral guideline" quite so much? Bishonen | talk 12:42, 12 November 2014 (UTC).

Hi, did I object to that comment being removed ? No, I chided u:Sitush for his reasoning. Did I ever claim to be a Wiki newbie ? No, anyone can see my history of edits on several other public Wikis. Its no arcana, 'coz u:Sitush confused me with 'u:Zuggernaut', please check the 20th end edit Zuggernaut did before retiring and where I copied it from. u:Sitush goaded me to check u:Zuggernaut's public edit history. Isn't assume good faith still a core policy at this project ? MonaPisser (talk) 13:13, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

It's widely understood not to be a suicide pact. But I'm sorry for being drawn in, I'm done here. Bishonen | talk 13:46, 12 November 2014 (UTC).

User Name

I am aware that there was on this page a brief discussion relating to your username. I wonder if you would like to think about changing it? "Mona" is clearly harmless; you state that "Pisser" derives from the name of a statue (in Belgium). This is not quite correct. The statue, of a small cherub passing urine, is indeed called the "Mannequin Pis". But in French the word "pis" does not have any negative connotation, while the word "pisser" in English clearly does, being a derogatory term although not an obscene one (if it were obscene I would block you immediately). I do not see in your edits any positive reason for your use of this name, and I would welcome your comment. --Anthony Bradbury^"talk" 22:43, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for your message, which I have read as carefully as I can. In the past 48 hours I have received lots of advice and policy prescriptions from well meaning people, and also a block. This is all very overwhelming for me as the other Wikis where I edit extensively, usually under my own name (to highlight my domain expertise) encourage development of articles/content rather than harassing other users on talk pages. Its quite irritating, and I regret if my comments occasionally betray my irritation.

Also I don't know much French, and I barely know just enough English to edit on this encyclopedia. I certainly didn't know that the word "pisser" (in the English language) is derogatory (but not obscene). Are you certain you weren't confusing 'England' and 'English' as some other editors have with me ? For instance apparently more people speak the 'English' (language) in the US rather than in England, and the Wikimedia project "wiktionary" defines "pisser" in US slang to be a great compliment, something special or outstanding ; e.g. "that bike is a real pisser." [2]. MonaPisser (talk) 23:15, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

PS: I didn't know you're such a big wheel on this portal. Sorry if I've been inadvertently rude.MonaPisser (talk) 23:17, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

I live in England, not the USA. I am not a big wheel here, just one of many admins who try to keep the encyclopedia tidy and useful. Notwithstanding your interpretation of the word "pisser" in an American context it can be seen as inappropriate in the UK. Any further thoughts on this basis? --Anthony Bradbury^"talk" 12:17, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

I think the user probably sees themselves as a pisser in the Australian sense, per Wiktionary: "An extremely amusing person or thing". Bishonen | talk 12:42, 12 November 2014 (UTC).

Thanks for that heads up. AFAIK, this project is hosted by WMF, a non-profit NGO located, registered, and with servers, in the US. Meanwhile the French people have already replied to the English people here, in the quote box titled Lorsque Dieu créa Adam et Ève, il leur dit. Oh, and its comically illustrated (but not obscenely) too ! MonaPisser (talk) 12:54, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

This so called American version of the word is a Colloquial slang of New England. A toilet or urinal is a more common useage of the word in the USA.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 13:52, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aadarsh Mishra

Don't remove comments like this. The admin that closes the AfD will take into account that those are a blocked editors comments. If Bishonen, who blocked the IPs, had thought they required removing then she would have. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 17:38, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

My bad, I was misled by And if anybody wants to tidy the page by deleting all 131.251.xx comments, I've no objection. Bishonen MonaPisser (talk) 17:44, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

I'm really sorry about that. I missed her final comment. You were quite correct and I've reverted back to your version. Sorry again. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 17:56, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Thats the first nice thing anybody's said to me here. MonaPisser (talk) 18:00, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Response

I wouldn't ask those questions. There of little relevance to me. What I would ask is if during the prior edit war on september 14 if editors received blocks for sockpuppetry and why? Then I would ask how your account creation on November 9th and the edit war on that article was similar to the previous sockpuppetry. Then I would compare your behavior with that of the User who's reverts yours mirrored. What I would find then is that you two are of similar competence. This of course with what Ashlin points out is likely enough to get you blocked for sockpuppetry. However this to me is a rather weak case. While I feel like it would be enough to get you blocked, I'm not myself convinced that you are a sockpuppet and I do not support blocking people on such weak evidence. Your work on the article amounts to you suggesting that a select user should do ect and then that the Bengali Wikipedia should do ect. Is that disruptive? I'll leave that to someone else to decide. The only thing I will say is that it's not helpful.

There are places for new users such as yourself to seek help so that you can apropriatelt acclimate to them. Would you like me to link you to a few?-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 19:24, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Stop

Harassing Sitush. Darkness Shines (talk) 17:58, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi again. I see that Sitush was recently blocked for harassing and personal attacks. I've also been seeing that the entire Indian editors community is fed up with his WP:IDHT and WP:BULLYing approach. If he is wrong on his facts, he should either DISCUSS it civilly or APOLOGISE. I suppose all of us are here to build a better encyclopedia MonaPisser (talk) 18:14, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

No, he was blocked because an Admin thought something he said was a threat. It was agreed that it was not a threat and he was unblocked. And if you think the Indian editors community - at least the experienced ones, don't support him, you are fooling yourself. Dougweller (talk) 20:19, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

You are not here to build an encyclopedia, you are here to troll. Darkness Shines (talk) 18:16, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

That is wrong. I want to contribute in article space, but embedded POV pushing editors don't let me. Would you like me to work on Draco Normannicus? MonaPisser (talk) 18:19, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

You also have extensive knowledge of Norman literature, poetry and latin? Nah, what I would like is to see you blocked and forgotten about. Darkness Shines (talk) 18:23, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

"Ignore All Credentials" WP:IAC MonaPisser (talk) 18:26, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

PS: I do 2 of 3 MonaPisser (talk) 18:27, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Take me to WP:ANI on behavioural grounds or start a WP:RFC/U. In either case, I suggest that you beware the boomerang and you first query things with people at the India Project Noticeboard because I think you have likely got the wrong impression. - Sitush (talk) 18:51, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Sitush I have replied to you below.MonaPisser (talk) 03:06, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Your account has been blocked indefinitely because the chosen username is a clear violation of our username policy – it is obviously profane; threatens, attacks or impersonates another person; or suggests that you do not intend to contribute positively to the encyclopedia (see our blocking and username policies for more information).

We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia, but users are not allowed to edit with inappropriate usernames and we do not tolerate 'bad faith' editing such as trolling or other disruptive behavior. If you think there are good reasons why these don't describe your account, or why you should be unblocked, you are welcome to appeal this block – read our guide to appealing blocks to understand more about unblock requests, and then add the text {{unblock-un|new username|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}} at the end of your user talk page.

Daniel Case (talk) 19:46, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Checkuserblock

Daniel Case's usernameblock above has been updated by Ponyo to a checkuserblock for abusing multiple accounts and extensive proxy abuse.[3] Bishonen | talk 21:26, 13 November 2014 (UTC).

• I have removed and revdel'd some abuse, conspiracy theories and legal threats from this page and removed talkpage access. Take your business to the WMF by all means. Unblock requests may be addressed to WP:UTRS. Bishonen | talk 05:47, 14 November 2014 (UTC).