User talk:Mojo Hand/Archive 2020
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Administrators' newsletter – January 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2019).
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Guideline and policy news
- A request for comment asks whether partial blocks should be enabled on the English Wikipedia. If enabled, this functionality would allow administrators to block users from editing specific pages or namespaces, rather than the entire site.
- A proposal asks whether admins who don't use their tools for a significant period of time (e.g. five years) should have the toolset procedurally removed.
- Following a successful RfC, a whitelist is now available for users whose redirects will be autopatrolled by a bot, removing them from the new pages patrol queue. Admins can add such users to Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Redirect whitelist after a discussion following the guidelines at Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Redirect whitelist.
Arbitration
- The fourth case on Palestine-Israel articles was closed. The case consolidated all previous remedies under one heading, which should make them easier to understand, apply, and enforce. In particular, the distinction between "primary articles" and "related content" has been clarified, with the former being
the entire set of articles whose topic relates to the Arab-Israeli conflict, broadly interpreted
rather thanreasonably construed
. - Following the 2019 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: Beeblebrox, Bradv, Casliber, David Fuchs, DGG, KrakatoaKatie, Maxim, Newyorkbrad, SoWhy, Worm That Turned, Xeno.
- The fourth case on Palestine-Israel articles was closed. The case consolidated all previous remedies under one heading, which should make them easier to understand, apply, and enforce. In particular, the distinction between "primary articles" and "related content" has been clarified, with the former being
Miscellaneous
- This issue marks three full years of the Admin newsletter. Thanks for reading!
Deleting my old archive pages
Thanks for slogging through that! Robvanvee 16:56, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – February 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2020).
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Guideline and policy news
- Following a request for comment, partial blocks are now enabled on the English Wikipedia. This functionality allows administrators to block users from editing specific pages or namespaces rather than the entire site. A draft policy is being workshopped at Wikipedia:Partial blocks.
- The request for comment seeking the community's sentiment for a binding desysop procedure closed with
wide-spread support for an alternative desysoping procedure based on community input
. No proposed process received consensus.
Technical news
- Twinkle now supports partial blocking. There is a small checkbox that toggles the "partial" status for both blocks and templating. There is currently one template: {{uw-pblock}}.
- When trying to move a page, if the target title already exists then a warning message is shown. The warning message will now include a link to the target title. [1]
Arbitration
- Following a recent arbitration case, the Arbitration Committee reminded administrators
that checkuser and oversight blocks must not be reversed or modified without prior consultation with the checkuser or oversighter who placed the block, the respective functionary team, or the Arbitration Committee.
- Following a recent arbitration case, the Arbitration Committee reminded administrators
Miscellaneous
- Voting in the 2020 Steward elections will begin on 08 February 2020, 14:00 (UTC) and end on 28 February 2020, 13:59 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
- The English Wikipedia has reached six million articles. Thank you everyone for your contributions!
DTTR but CIR
So you didn't warn the IP after reverting this edit as an admin? Consider {{uw-warn}} appropriately applied here. Toddst1 (talk) 04:46, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
- Toddst1 - is this really how you talk to people you have never met? I think a friendlier initial approach is almost always a better way to make your point.--Mojo Hand (talk) 05:11, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
- My behavior? I honestly find your messages here to be shocking. Some thoughts:
- User warning messages are never required, though obviously I think they are a good idea, given my participation in the UW WikiProject.
- Dickishness by long term users is almost as much of a problem as vandalism.
- If you had approached me in a friendly manner, I would have thanked you for the input and noted that I am using Huggle, which seems to be having issues in delivering user warnings.
- WP:DTTR does not appear to have any relevance to this discussion. Citing WP:CIR in this context is both technically incorrect and obnoxious. Perhaps you should read the things you reference.
- --Mojo Hand (talk) 16:56, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
- My behavior? I honestly find your messages here to be shocking. Some thoughts:
Administrators' newsletter – March 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2020).
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Guideline and policy news
- Following an RfC, the blocking policy was changed to state that sysops
must not
undo or alter CheckUser or Oversight blocks, rather thanshould not
. - A request for comment confirmed that sandboxes of established but inactive editors may not be blanked due solely to inactivity.
- Following an RfC, the blocking policy was changed to state that sysops
Technical news
- Following a discussion, Twinkle's default CSD behavior will soon change, most likely this week. After the change, Twinkle will default to "tagging mode" if there is no CSD tag present, and default to "deletion mode" if there is a CSD tag present. You will be able to always default to "deletion mode" (the current behavior) using your Twinkle preferences.
Miscellaneous
- Following the 2020 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: BRPever, Krd, Martin Urbanec, MusikAnimal, Sakretsu, Sotiale, and Tks4Fish. There are a total of seven editors that have been appointed as stewards, the most since 2014.
- The 2020 appointees for the Ombudsman commission are Ajraddatz and Uzoma Ozurumba; they will serve for one year.
My previous post
I owe you an apology. Apparently, I was having a bad day. Toddst1 (talk) 16:38, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – April 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2020).
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Guideline and policy news
- There is an ongoing request for comment to streamline the source deprecation and blacklisting process.
Technical news
- There is a plan for new requirements for user signatures. You can give feedback.
Arbitration
- Following the banning of an editor by the WMF last year, the Arbitration Committee resolved to hold a
Arbcom RfC regarding on-wiki harassment
. A draft RfC has been posted at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Anti-harassment RfC (Draft) and not open to comments from the community yet. Interested editors can comment on the RfC itself on its talk page.
- Following the banning of an editor by the WMF last year, the Arbitration Committee resolved to hold a
Miscellaneous
- The WMF has begun a pilot report of the pages most visited through various social media platforms to help with anti-vandalism and anti-disinformation efforts. The report is updated daily and will be available through the end of May.
Just so you know
I’m one of Matthew Clay’s youngest living relatives 67.61.166.230 (talk) 18:36, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – May 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2020).
Administrator changes
CheckUser changes
Oversight changes
Guideline and policy news
- Discretionary sanctions have been authorized for all pages and edits related to COVID-19, to be logged at WP:GS/COVID19.
- Following a recent discussion on Meta-Wiki, the edit filter maintainer global group has been created.
- A request for comment has been proposed to create a new main page editor usergroup.
- A request for comment has been proposed to make the bureaucrat activity requirements more strict.
Technical news
- The Editing team has been working on the talk pages project. You can review the proposed design and share your thoughts on the talk page.
- Enterprisey created a script that will show a link to the proper Special:Undelete page when viewing a since-deleted revision, see User:Enterprisey/link-deleted-revs.
Miscellaneous
- A request for comment closed with consensus to create a Village Pump-style page for communication with the Wikimedia Foundation.
I think I created this article as a redirect, and someone else made it into an article and then deleted it per G7. Don't know the history here, and "no" is fine, but would it be a good idea to turn it back into a redirect? HLHJ (talk) 05:06, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hello HLHJ. This page was only ever a redirect, and nobody else edited it. Here is the entire history of the page before I deleted it:
- (diff) 14:11, August 9, 2016 . . HLHJ (talk | contribs | block) 14 bytes (my typo: it has a stray 'n', should be Africa Rice Center)
- (diff) 14:03, August 9, 2016 . . HLHJ (talk | contribs | block) 107 bytes
- (diff) 14:03, August 9, 2016 . . HLHJ (talk | contribs | block) 114 bytes (requested own delete)
- (diff) 13:57, August 9, 2016 . . HLHJ (talk | contribs | block) 33 bytes (UK/US spelling)
- I think it could be a useful redirect, so I have no problem restoring it, if you want, or you could just re-create it as a redirect. Let me know your pleasure.--Mojo Hand (talk) 14:21, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- That was rather silly of me, wasn't it? A redirect seems appropriate, done. I've created African Rice Centre with an R-E, too. Sorry for wasting your time. HLHJ (talk) 14:32, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
Deletion of Gantumoote page
Hey, I was interested in creating a page for Gantumoote but I noticed that you deleted an article that was created for it earlier. I was wondering why was it deleted, and what would my article need to prevent deleting the page again? I've created wikipedia pages before so I do have some experience with it.
Thanks, Intoxicatedmidnight (talk) 01:42, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hello Intoxicatedmidnight. The page at Gantumoote never got started; someone just put the words, "Coming soon" on the page, but never actually got started writing the article. So the "article" was deleted as a test page, but not for any reasons related to the actual merits of the movie. As such, there is no logistical reason you can't start a new article at that page. Personally, I know very little about foreign language films, so I don't have any useful advice about whether the movie is notable or meets the relevant guideline WP:NFILMS. Good luck, and let me know if I can do anything else.--Mojo Hand (talk) 15:20, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
Blanking of AFD for privacy concerns
Dear Sir,
This page was just deleted. I wondered if you could please be so kind as to black the AFD cover-page, for privacy reasons, so that there are no BLP issues. Notably, so the page isn't google-able online.
Thanks a lot. BlueSapphires (talk) 23:38, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
Done. Let me know if you need anything else.--Mojo Hand (talk) 03:42, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
- {{Xfd-privacy}} (needs to be substed) can also be used. I am not sure if it's necessary but since the bot-updated Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Old is now showing this AFD as still open it might be. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:33, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you Jo-Jo Eumerus; I didn't know that template existed.--Mojo Hand (talk) 22:14, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- {{Xfd-privacy}} (needs to be substed) can also be used. I am not sure if it's necessary but since the bot-updated Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Old is now showing this AFD as still open it might be. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:33, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
Advice on AFD
Dear Sir, I hope to seek help on an ongoing AFD. I am the article creator of Kwong Weng Yap. This page was created in 2016 and I went through proper processes (admission for new articles) and consulted a few wiki editors. After four years, because of news that the subject would participate as a political candidate, there has been a surge of edits/views over the past few days and a request for deletion of the page was activated due to the subject’s perceived lack of notability as claimed by some editors. I find no vanity in the article and believe the subject is notable. I explained my reasons in the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Kwong_Weng_Yap While I understand there has been 2 AFDs in 2015, I played no part in it. My article was substantially different when I created it. In 2016, I read about the subject on the newspaper and wrote an article about him. I tried to justify my case using references and articles to the best of my ability. In doing so, I found that two editors (the nominator and another editor) have been discussing on their talk pages to plan and delete the page. I find their actions unnecessary and wrong. I suspect that there are additional agendas to their actions besides improving an article, which I can’t seem to articulate because this seems too timely. I find this disturbing and have tried to resolve the matter but to no avail. I developed a sense of injustice not only because of the effort put in to write the article but also subjected to a sense of unfairness. Will appreciate it very much if you can help and advise. Superwifi (talk) 14:50, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hello Superwifi. I have taken a brief look at the article and the AFD, and I am not sure what advice you are looking for. I agree with Sandstein that the article is sufficiently different from the previous versions that it should go through another AFD discussion (rather than under speedy deletion WP:CSD#G4). Beyond that, I don't see anything improper in the nomination or the process. I do know that it is disheartening to work on content only to have it deleted. Unfortunately, that is a risk on Wikipedia. However, even if the article is deleted, you can still continue to work on it in userspace, to see if the subject gains clearer notability as a result of his political ambitions.--Mojo Hand (talk) 14:49, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
Dear Sir, I wanted to thank you for your comments, which made sense and showed kindness. This page Kwong Weng Yap was just deleted. I wondered if you could please be so kind as to black the AFD cover-page, for privacy reasons, so that there are no BLP issues. Superwifi (talk) 03:10, 3 June 2020 (UTC) Superwifi (talk) 03:10, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
- Hello again Superwifi. Sorry for the slow response - I've been a bit busy IRL. I am always sympathetic to BLP and privacy issues. At the same time, I see that this is the third AFD discussion about the same subject, and the other two have existed for some time. Is there something specific about this AFD that you think distinguishes it from the other two and creates BLP or privacy issues? --Mojo Hand (talk) 14:33, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
Hello Sir, thank you for your response despite being busy with work. I understand the subject didn’t pass the third AFD due to the notability criteria but I would like to work in userspace to improve this article should his notability becomes clearer in the future. Unlike the previous two AFDs, this AFD is different because it is substantially a different article from that were conducted several years back, which I had no involvement in. This time round, it has been specifically brought up that the subject was recently put in the spotlight due to an online spat with an academic. Hence potential BLP issues could occur and judgments can be made to downplay the subject’s accomplishments in a political context, which is not align to the values of Wikipedia and is unfair to the subject. As I created the content of this article, I wouldn’t want to cause/create any potential ‘harm’ to the subject in any way, so I am requesting for your understanding on the matter to maintain the article’s privacy. I will feel very bad if anything happens in this regard. Will appreciate it very much if you could kindly help Superwifi (talk) 16:54, 6 June 2020 (UTC) Superwifi (talk) 16:54, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
- Done. I'm not certain I fully understand the concern, but I don't see any harm in blanking the details of the AFD.--Mojo Hand (talk) 15:41, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
Dear sir, thank you. It is much appreciated. Superwifi (talk) 16:48, 8 June 2020 (UTC) Superwifi (talk) 16:48, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – June 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2020).
Administrator changes
CaptainEek • Creffett • Cwmhiraeth
Anna Frodesiak • Buckshot06 • Ronhjones • SQL
CheckUser changes
Guideline and policy news
- A request for comment asks whether the Unblock Ticket Request System (UTRS) should allowed any unblock request or just private appeals.
- The Wikimedia Foundation announced that they will develop a universal code of conduct for all WMF projects. There is an open local discussion regarding the same.
Arbitration
Restore article
Hi, Please restore the page Iqbal Azad that you deleted. After restoration I will improve this page. Kaitudi (talk) 21:48, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
- Hello Kaitudi. The version of the page I deleted was blank (no content at all). Are you looking to restore prior versions of the page created by blocked user Hansi jat? If so, you will need to discuss that with the admin who deleted those pages, Jimfbleak. Looks like you have already started a new page in draftspace, and I think that is the best way to go.--Mojo Hand (talk) 14:27, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for deleting Aabha Hanjura
Hi, & I had by error created the Aabha Hanjura article in mainspace while I wanted to start working on it in my userspace (sandbox). Trust things are okay now that It exists in my userspace. Do visit my talk page and let me know if anything can be done with this draft. Ambar (talk) 20:43, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
Special:WantedTemplates
Hi, I have been cleaning up Special:WantedTemplates and noticed that Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:"_+_"oldafdfull"_+_" is pointing to your monobook.js and vector.js pages. clearly these are false positives (basically a bug in how WP parses .js pages). it would be really great if you could add // <syntaxhighlight lang=javascript> to the top and // </syntaxhighlight> to the bottom of those pages. by putting these tags in comments, it won't prevent the javascript from executing, but it will remove those pages from Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:"_+_"oldafdfull"_+_". alternatively, for the monobook.js page, if you are no longer using the monobook skin (many people are using vector these days) and don't need to keep the old page, you could just have the page deleted. thank you in advance for your help. Frietjes (talk) 20:01, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – July 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2020).
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Guideline and policy news
- A request for comment is in progress to remove the T2 (template that misrepresents established policy) speedy deletion criterion.
Technical news
- Protection templates on mainspace pages are now automatically added by User:MusikBot II (BRFA).
Arbitration
- Following the banning of an editor by the WMF last year, the Arbitration Committee resolved to hold an
RfC regarding on-wiki harassment
. The RfC has been posted at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Anti-harassment RfC and is open to comments from the community. - The Medicine case was closed, with a remedy authorizing standard discretionary sanctions for
all discussions about pharmaceutical drug prices and pricing and for edits adding, changing, or removing pharmaceutical drug prices or pricing from articles
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- Following the banning of an editor by the WMF last year, the Arbitration Committee resolved to hold an
Some baklava for you!
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Precious anniversary
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Administrators' newsletter – August 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2020).
Administrator changes
Oversight changes
Guideline and policy news
- There is an open request for comment to decide whether to increase the minimum duration a sanction discussion has to remain open (currently 24 hours).
- Speedy deletion criterion T2 (template that misrepresents established policy) has been repealed following a request for comment.
- Speedy deletion criterion X2 (pages created by the content translation tool) has been repealed following a discussion.
- There is a proposal to restrict proposed deletion to confirmed users.
Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago
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... and again today! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:49, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – September 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2020).
Administrator changes
CheckUser changes
Guideline and policy news
- Following a request for comment, the minimum length for site ban discussions was increased to 72 hours, up from 24.
- A request for comment is ongoing to determine whether paid editors
must
orshould
use the articles for creation process. - A request for comment is open to resolve inconsistencies between the draftification and alternative to deletion processes.
Arbitration
- A request for comment is open to provide an opportunity to amend the structure, rules, and procedures of the 2020 English Wikipedia Arbitration Committee election and to resolve any issues not covered by existing rules.
- An open request for comment asks whether active Arbitrators may serve on the Trust and Safety Case Review Committee or Ombudsman commission.
Administrators' newsletter – September 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2020).
Administrator changes
- Ajpolino • LuK3
Jackmcbarn- Ad Orientem • Harej • Lid • Lomn • Mentoz86 • Oliver Pereira • XJaM
There'sNoTime → TheresNoTime
Guideline and policy news
- A request for comment found consensus that incubation as an alternative to deletion should generally only be recommended when draftification is appropriate, namely
1) if the result of a deletion discussion is to draftify; or 2) if the article is newly created
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- A request for comment found consensus that incubation as an alternative to deletion should generally only be recommended when draftification is appropriate, namely
Technical news
- The filter log now provides links to view diffs of deleted revisions (phab:T261630).
Arbitration
- The 2020 CheckUser and Oversight appointment process has begun. The community consultation period will take place from September 27th to October 7th.
- Following a request for comment, sitting Committee members may not serve on either the Ombuds Commission or the WMF Case Review Committee. The Arbitration Committee passed a motion implementing those results into their procedures.
Miscellaneous
- The Universal Code of Conduct draft is open for community review and comment until October 6th, 2020.
- Office actions may now be appealed to the Interim Trust & Safety Case Review Committee.
Administrators' newsletter – November 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2020).
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Guideline and policy news
- Community sanctions now authorize administrators to place under indefinite semiprotection
any article on a beauty pageant, or biography of a person known as a beauty pageant contestant, which has been edited by a sockpuppet account or logged-out sockpuppet
, to be logged at WP:GS/PAGEANT.
- Community sanctions now authorize administrators to place under indefinite semiprotection
Technical news
- Sysops will once again be able to view the deleted history of JS/CSS pages; this was restricted to interface administrators when that group was introduced.
- Twinkle's block module now includes the ability to note the specific case when applying a discretionary sanctions block and/or template.
- Sysops will be able to use Special:CreateLocalAccount to create a local account for a global user that is prevented from auto-creation locally (such as by a filter or range block). Administrators that are not sure if such a creation is appropriate should contact a checkuser.
Arbitration
- The 2020 Arbitration Committee Elections process has begun. Eligible editors will be able to nominate themselves as candidates from November 8 through November 17. The voting period will run from November 23 through December 6.
- The Anti-harassment RfC has concluded with a summary of the feedback provided.
Miscellaneous
- A reminder that
standard discretionary sanctions are authorized for all edits about, and all pages related to post-1932 politics of the United States and closely related people.
(American Politics 2 Arbitration case).
- A reminder that
Thank you
Thank you for your "Keep" close of the deletion attempt for George Payne (actor)! What do you think of my improvements to the page? Right cite (talk) 16:49, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hello Right cite. Sorry for the slow response - I've been off Wiki for a few days. The huge improvement to the article definitely put it over the top. Some editors (me included) are cautious about spending a lot of time on an article that may get deleted, so I give you kudos for jumping into the pond and saving the article.--Mojo Hand (talk) 15:19, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
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Administrators' newsletter – December 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2020).
Administrator changes
- Andrwsc • Anetode • GoldenRing • JzG • LinguistAtLarge • Nehrams2020
Interface administrator changes
Guideline and policy news
- There is a request for comment in progress to either remove T3 (duplicated and hardcoded instances) as a speedy deletion criterion or eliminate its seven-day waiting period.
Technical news
- Voting for proposals in the 2021 Community Wishlist Survey, which determines what software the Wikimedia Foundation's Community Tech team will work on next year, will take place from 8 December through 21 December. In particular, there are sections regarding administrators and anti-harassment.
Arbitration
- Voting in the 2020 Arbitration Committee Elections is open to eligible editors until Monday 23:59, 7 December 2020 UTC. Please review the candidates and, if you wish to do so, submit your choices on the voting page.
CafeTran deletion
Hello. Please change your deletion reason for the CafeTran page from G3 (Pure vandalism and blatant hoaxes) to G4 (Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion). https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cafetran_Espresso&action=edit&redlink=1 --leuce (talk) 08:07, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hello Leuce - my apologies for the delayed response as I have been busy IRL. The version of the page that I deleted was pure vandalism. It was three sentences of insults and personal attacks, which had absolutely nothing to do with the translation tool. So, the deletion reason was valid, but it should not be relevant to any longer term discussion of CafeTran. I hope that helps, and please let me know if you need anything else.--Mojo Hand (talk) 15:37, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
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Donner60 (talk) is wishing a foaming mug of Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's Solstice or Christmas, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone!
Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:WereSpielChequers/Dec20}} to your friends' talk pages.