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Errors in the article on Black Dog Scotch Whisky

There are far too many errors in the article on Black Dog Scotch Whisky. The writer evidently did not bother to check his inputs for veracity. I will make corrections when my research is complete.

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The brand's main competitors are Teacher's 50 (by Suntory) and Something Special (a Pernod Ricard brand). WRONG Something Special has been relocated to S America, as 12 & 15 YOs wef 01-01-2006 (web) Consider the statement "The brand was named Millard Black Dog after his favourite salmon fishing fly, known as the Black Dog.[12]" This reference was traced and found to be irrelevant. The statement is, however, found on all cartons and labels of Black Dog bottles.

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James McKinley James MacKinlay

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The whisky was named by the man who brought the whisky to India, Walter Millard of the East India Company.[9]WRONG The East India Company wound up in 1874. Millard was an employee of Phipson India Wines & Liquor Company, Apollo Road, Bombay. He was 10 years old when East India Company shut down.

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Missing:- As per Wikipedia re Mr Musgrave: Herbert Musgrave Phipson (1850 – August 7, 1936), was a British wine merchant and naturalist who lived in Bombay (now Mumbai), India in the late 1880s-early 1900s. He came to India in 1878 as a partner in the firm of J. A. Forbes & Co., Bombay. In 1883, he established his own company, Phipson India Wines & Liquor Company, Apollo Road, Bombay. He employed Walter S. Millard (1864-1952), a well educated young man, in 1883. Phipson served as the editor of the Journal of the Bombay Natural History Society for twenty years – as the sole editor for fifteen years till 1901 and then joint editor with Walter Millard, who succeeded him as honorary secretary in 1906, when he returned to England due to his wife's continued ill-health. Walter Millard married the daughter of a prominent blender, James MacKinlay of the Leith Scotch whisky blending family in 1889. Leith lies just outside Edinburgh, the capital of Scotland.

As per research: In its heyday, Great Britain had colonised almost a quarter of the known world. Scotch whisky, along with port, sherry, gin and beer, were ubiquitous throughout the British Empire. Not surprisingly, supplies to some of their far-flung outposts were often irregular. The problem with distant colonies in the Middle East, Central Asia, and the Far East was entirely one of transportation. The trans-global shipping route from Scotland took from 30 to 90 days, depending on the weather.

In 1883, Phipson returned to England to place orders for / acquire necessary equipment and stocks for his new business and also to acquire Blended Scotch Whisky that would suit the hot and dusty tropical conditions in Great Britain's Asian Colonies. He employed 19-year old Walter Millard in England, with orders to to go to MacKinlay's in Leith, Edinburgh and get him to produce and/or provide a good blended whisky that would suit India and other Asian countries. This is where he met his future wife-to-be, MacKinlay's daughter. MacKinlay was a name known in Scotland as the 'Royalty of Whisky', first established in 1815. Millard's father-in-law James MacKinlay was a second generation whisky distiller and blender from the Leith family, with a distillery in Leith where he produced a large number of brands of different ages, like MacKinlay's 'Fine Old Scotch Whisky' as five to seven year olds were known and 'Rare Old Scotch Whisky', the term for eight year olds, Mackinlays Vatted Old Benvorlich Scotch Whisky, MacKinlay's Legacy, etc. He was also a supplier of raw single malt whiskies to other Scotch brands that were sprouting all over, once the ban on blending whisky was removed in 1860.

Contrary to public belief, Millard didn’t have to travel very far and wide in search of his whisky. James MacKinlay had a few blends in store, of which one five year old would suit hot and dusty climates best. Millard took the entire stock of this whisky back to India in 750 ml bottles, reaching in 1884, and sold as Millard Black Dog, named after his favourite salmon fishing fly, and allowed, in all probability as a quid pro quo by Phipson. MacKinlay was to send as many bottles as he could blend to Phipson India Wines & Liquor Company in India. There are a few other unsubstantiated stories about the name of this brand of Scotch Whisky.

While Mackinlay kept up the supply of Millard's Black Dog bottles, he was also carrying out experiments in his own backyard by adding similarly aged whiskies based on his own as well as Millard's notes and testing them out. 12 year old Scotch whiskies were now emerging, though the 'Premium Extra Special' whiskies were expensive. Millard returned in 1889 to get married and also found a delightful new 12 YO expression that would take centre stage globally. Millard's 12 year old but new Black Dog had to be renamed, as the original, which was to be gradually and unobtrusively withdrawn, was already a global brand. This saw the emergence of the (blended at Mackinlay) Phipson Black Dog, an exquisite 12 YO in a totally different dark brown bottle(see photos), which became a bestseller overnight in Scotland, sufficient cause for jacking up the price, first internationally, then locally.

Phipson's Black Dog (Photo) was a bestseller as a Premium Brand, starting 1889, 20 years before real competition arrived: JW Black Label. Black Dog was more popular and more expensive in India till the late 1980s. It was the premier Scotch Whisky served on board Air India's international flights and on passenger liners ex-India.(photo of miniature bottles) Moitraanak (talk) 13:38, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

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In the article on Johnnie Walker , the sentence in Johnnie Walker Red Label, "According to William Manchester this was the favourite Scotch of Winston Churchill, who mixed it with soda.[15]" conflicts with "Winston Churchill was so obsessed with Black Label during the dark days of the Second World War that he painted still lifes of the bottles." as written by Giles MacDonogh in his article of 1996, "Walking Tall," in the web magazine "cigar aficionado.". Suggest remove Churchill, William Manchester and Dick Cheney as they are all anachronisms and unknown in over 90-95% of the world. Moitraanak (talk) 14:39, 23 September 2017 (UTC) moitraanakMoitraanak (talk) 16:54, 24 October 2017 (UTC)https://scotchwhisky.com/magazine/famous-whisky-drinkers/9866/sir-winston-churchill/ supports my suggestion.

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In the article on Johnnie Walker , Section: Blends; Subsection: Standard Blends, look for Blue Label. There are far too many mistakes. With the 1991 agreement that the anomalous Duty Free price reduction for travel within the EU single market would be abolished wef 1 January 1993 barring age-sensitive alcohol, all brands of Scotch whiskies selling their products in the EU were required to market them in 70cl bottles at a standard strength of 40% ABV (70 proof globally and 80 proof in the US). This would apply to all Scotch whisky sold within the EU, unless extensions/exceptions were specifically sought, mainly by the Single Malt Scotch Whisky industry. Tax would then increase depending on strength and bottle capacity. Passengers leaving the EU were exempt from this ban. Since this rule was imposed on alcohol wef 01 July 1999, with six and a half years notice, all Johnnie Walker’s Blended Scotch would have been sold wef 01 July 1999 as mandated, including Blue Label.

Ref 24, <"Product Information". Lcbo.ca. Retrieved 2012-11-03.> is illogical. The Description under PRODUCT DETAILS is only partly factual. It says <This is an authentic re-creation of an original, 19th century blend that includes some 60-year-old malt whisky> Blending was permitted only for established distillers in 1860 and extended under the Extension to The French Treaty Act of 1863 to grocers. It was thus impossible for John/Alec Walker to create a 60 yr old blend in the 19th century. Though he was selling malts/blended malts in 1825, there was no way coopers could create oak barrels made of English oak in 1840 that could store malts for more than 20-25 years. US Bourbon barrels were not yet freely available. That is why James Mackinlay could provide the spendthrift rambunctious explorer Ernest Shackleton only bottled-in-1898 15 YO Blended Malt Scotch whisky in 2007-08. It is certainly possible that a few barrels of a 1932 single malt were available for blending in 1982, mated with young single grain whiskies with a few months together in the barrel/barrels for complete fusion. The first bottle that appeared was John Walker Oldest 15-60 YO in 1992, which sold out quickly to be followed by a visual duplicate, Johnnie Walker Oldest, but NAS, soon thereafter (the 60 YO Malt was fully consumed), followed by the JW Blue Label NAS of 1992, as seen in the market today, astutely launched in a marketing coup. Pics are easily accessible. (talk) 11:35, 11 November 2017 (UTC) (talk) 11:35, 11 November 2017 (UTC)(They cannot be placed here due possible copyright problems, but they can certainly be seen though a direct link.)11 November 2017, 1700 ISTMoitraanak (talk) 11:35, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
Moitraanak ^(talk) 11:43, 14 February 2020 (UTC). Moreover, the sentence "also known as Max Walker" cannot be substantiated. The reference quoted, no 26, viz., "Johnnie Walker Blue Scotland Scotch 750ml". Wineanthology.com. Retrieved 2012-11-03 makes no mention of Max Walker. Ref 25 is irrelevant. Furthermore, all really expensive expressions from this house bear the name John Walker, and are blended in the Royal Lochnagar distillery. Prices vary from country to country and from state to state in the US. The range can be ridiculously wide, from GBP 115 ( US$155) for a 70 cl bottle in the UK to Aus$200 (US$158) + shipping charges in Australia to anywhere between US$174-235 for standard editions. A new JW Black Label Limited Edition has hit the market, the Director's Cut 2049 at 49% ABV and priced between £68 (US$90) and £100 ($133). Moitraanak (talk) 14:52, 25 September 2017 (UTC)moitraanakMoitraanak (talk) 14:05, 27 September 2017 (UTC) Certain fresh facts have come to light. I will edit later in the day, 19/10/2017Moitraanak (talk) 19:47, 18 October 2017 (UTC) Moitraanak As suggested by the editors of the web magazine https://scotchwhisky.com, the web page https://scotchwhisky.com/magazine/famous-whisky-drinkers/9866/sir-winston-churchill/ states that the GOM was inordinately passionate about alcohol. Brandy, Port and wine – particularly Champagne and most particularly Pol Roger – were his great favourites, but Scotch was a daily tipple and an essential feature of his working day. His Scotch of choice was Johnnie Walker and he was apparently a fan of Black Label as well as Red. Moitraanak (talk) 16:54, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

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Moitraanak (talk)1850 IST 08 September 2017. In the article on Johnnie Walker, the Johnnie Walker Blue Label Scotch whisky is a 40% ABV brand. The reference quoted (19) showed a wrong ABV and has since been rectified. "Johnnie Walker – Blue Label – Blended Scotch Whisky – 1 Ltr – 43% ABV: Amazon.co.uk: Grocery". Amazon.co.uk. 2012-04-16. Retrieved 2012-11-03. Rechecked and retrieved 09 September 2017. Moitraanak (talk) 13:38, 8 September 2017

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I would like to draw your attention to an article by by NILA SAGADEVAN: 9/11-The Impossibility of Flying Heavy Aircraft Without Training posted by By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor of VT, Veterans Today, on August 13, 2010. Sagadevan insists: "There are some who maintain that the mythical 9/11 hijackers, although proven to be too incompetent to fly a little Cessna 172, had acquired the impressive skills that enabled them to fly airliners by training in flight simulators. What follows is an attempt to bury this myth once and for all, because I’ve heard this ludicrous explanation bandied about, ad nauseam, on the Internet and the TV networks—invariably by people who know nothing substantive about flight simulators, flying, or even airplanes." The comments on some of the supposed pilots are impossible to overlook. Moitraanak (talk) 18:44, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

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Re Johnnie Walker. In the chart at the end of the Blends section, the time frame for Jonnie Walker Double Black is incorrect. It was first presented as a travel bottle in 2010. The chart shows 1997. Moitraanak (talk) 18:20, 15 October 2017 (UTC)MoitraanakMoitraanak (talk) 18:14, 30 October 2017 (UTC)Introduced Blenders' Batch series of blends, requiring subparas. Moitraanak (talk) 14:48, 6 November 2017 (UTC)Moitranaak: The bio of John Walker has many statements that need references. Some parts have been left out, due lack of refs, e.g., He married twice; Alexander was from his second wife. He had interests in Australia also, mismanaged by John. Moitraanak (talk) 11:35, 11 November 2017 (UTC)In view of Johnnie Walker Red Label steep drop in popularity as an NAS whisky, I doubt that ex-US VP D Cheney has it on his favourite link. I intend deleting it later. Moitraanak (talk) 16:21, 11 November 2017 (UTC)MoitraanakMoitraanak (talk) 16:21, 11 November 2017 (UTC)I have approached dailymotion.com regarding any copyright permission at 2135 IST today 11 November 2017. This is a channel other than that mentioned, viz., Youtube.

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MoitraanakMoitraanak (talk) 16:42, 11 November 2017 (UTC) When I go to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch_Whisky_Regulations_2009, I am given access to a pdf: Scotch Whisky Regulations Guidance 2009. This opens out to http://www.scotch-whisky.org.uk/media/12744/scotchwhiskyregguidance2009.pdf a 78-page pdf. But when I use the same url http://www.scotch-whisky.org.uk/media/12744/scotchwhiskyregguidance2009.pdf on Johnnie Walker Wikipedia as a link, I get a 404 error. Non comprendo.

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MoitranaakMoitraanak (talk) 11:37, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

I mailed dailymotion.com like so: I am editing Johnnie Walker on Wikipedia. May I refer to the segment on Johnnie Walker in the BBC Video: The Story of Scotch, between 33 & 41 minutes on the video. BBC will be acknowledged, of course.

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1. Referring to broadcast material for nonprofit educational purposes. 2. Referring to material from primarily factual works. 3. The effect of the use upon the potential market for, or value of, the copyrighted work. This use "may be productive only for the broadcaster, e.g., if he is using Google Adsense. MoitranaakMoitraanak (talk) 11:14, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

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Ref https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Newman HE DID NOT WIN THE ACADEMY AWARD FOR BEST ACTOR 1986. He wasn't even nominated. The winner was William Hurt - Kiss of the Spider Woman http://www.imdb.com/event/ev0000003/1986 Re Johnnie Walker Gallery. I have asked for a pic of the JW Odyssey. In March 2018, I'll ask for the JW 18 YO. Once available, I'll remove JW Platinum. MoitranaakMoitraanak (talk) 10:05, 10 December 2017 (UTC)Somebody is vandalising my updates. 1534 IST 12 Dec 17.

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Re Khadakwasla Lake, I am unable to use this link as it remains unformatted in the Reference Section: https://www.google.co.in/maps/place/Varasgaon+Dam/@18.389551,73.4672397,18z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x3bc29ebe4f1c834d:0x50b1b362b69e5dd9!8m2!3d18.3815759!4d73.5284915Moitraanak (talk) 11:36, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

New Timeline / Chart required.

Moitraanak (talk) 16:49, 3 December 2017 (UTC)MoitranaakMoitraanak (talk) 16:49, 3 December 2017 (UTC) New Timeline / Chart required: Johnnie Walker blends, by years of production, and from least expensive to most expensive. At least 4 changes need to be made. A 5th may come up in 2020. Double Black and Green Labels have errors, which have not been spotted yet. Platinum Label has been withdrawn; JW 18 YO has replaced it. Odyssey must come in.

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(UTC)MoitranaakMoitraanak (talk) 12:07, 13 December 2017 (UTC)Some wise guy has appended remarks on my work on Johnnie Walker. Do me the favour of signing your remarks-but only if you have the guts to take on a septuagenarian who has been drinking Scotch since 1960. (UTC)MoitranaakMoitraanak (talk) 16:10, 14 December 2017 (UTC)Johnny Walker is incomplete. Hopefully by this weekend. 14 Dec 2017. MoitraanakMoitraanak (talk) 09:26, 20 December 2017 (UTC)Lots of laudatory messages. Pen/mail/SM friends tell me now that they look up JW on Wikipedia as an encyclopedia. Commend my painstaking research! 21 Dec 17.

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Moitraanak(talk) 10:27, 19 February 2019 (UTC) Sequence of events is incorrect. I am from the pioneer group of pilots on the Mirage 2000 and was Flt Cdr 7 Sqn 85-88 and Commanding Officer 1 Sqn 90-92. Moitranaak.

Moitraanak (talk) 15:08, 21 February 2019 (UTC) Reliable references are difficult to find 30 years after the war. The article on The Kargil War also has many errors and inconsistencies. I will try and find some.

--Moitraanak (talk) 11:17, 28 February 2019 (UTC) Details of Hangar Collapse: I was the Station Flight Safety & Int. Officer at AF Stn Gwalior from March to Oct 89. On 24 May 1989, the tarmac facing front of 1 Sqn AF hangar collapsed at 0945 with a thunderclap, as I was watching 7 Sqn aircraft (ac) being towed into their hangar. The OAT was 44°C. Day flying had been called off and 14 ac of 1 Sqn had been pushed into the hangar for protection from the sun. Sunshades on the tarmac were to feature only in 1997. The northern end had caved in and a steel girder fell on one ac. It’s twin flipped sideways into the Sqn garden, while a smaller beam settled gradually onto the spine of another ac parked directly in front. The IAF technical gate was sealed off and a protective blanket of personnel from No 1 Sqn cordoned off the hangar. There was a lot of debris lying around and it took an hour for the dust to settle. 12 ac were towed out of the hangar from the southern end. Six ac were undamaged while another six had superficial damage, mainly ruptured skins. Local media was blocked but obtained info from the civilians working at the airbase. There was unsubstantiated gossip in the local media next day and a line or two in mainstream media, but unnecessary chit chat had been neatly cut down. Dassault technicians and engineers reached the site 44 hrs later. They required heavy and tall lifting devices. Winches and cranes were requisitioned from the Indian Railways workshop at Gwalior. The last two ac were extricated using the cranes to lift the girder off the severely damaged ac and the beam off the second. The Dassault team assessed the damage to all 8 ac and pronounced them recoverable, six on site starting immediately and two put away till each and every part was examined and tested. They found, in the latter case, that certain sections had to be imported from France. The overall cost of repair came to approx $2 million. On Friday, 11 August that year, all 8 damaged ac carried out a flypast. All documented references are classified. I was tasked with carrying out a Board of Officers to propose a plan to build a new hangar, which took me all of four days.Moitraanak (talk)

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After travelling down to Gwalior and visiting 1 Sqn AF, I have once again put together the sequence of events on the morning the Hangar collapsed. You will also see a photograph supplied by the then CEnggO, Gp Capt S Gopalakrishnan(now AVM Ret'd). A news clip is also on display. Gwalior is a large Indian Army base, and units keep rotating. Luckily, Madras Engg Gp was around then and helped in the recovery process. Of the 14 aircraft in the Hangar, the southernmost six were undamaged, six suffered minor damage but two aircraft were indeed damaged, one seriously so, as appeared prima facie. The other had a metal rod resting across its spine and that aircraft needed extensive testing. There was no damage to man or beast, except for a Sqn Van, which had its canvas top torn. The six aircraft with minor punctured-skin damage were made flyworthy within a week! 1 Sqn had 12 aircraft to fly, except that they couldn't all be stored in the damaged hangar. Prudence dictated that no aircraft be retained within that hangar until cleared at the highest Engg level. The seventh damaged aircraft was brought on line in forty-five days. The severely damaged eighth aircraft was recovered in eleven weeks. Sqn trg activity returned to normal within two weeks of the incident. 80 days after this silly accident, all aircraft were deemed flyworthy and Wg Cdr Apte, the CO, led these eight aircraft in a flypast. The files are still classified and will be reviewed later for retention/destruction/ extraction of relevant matter and its declassification. A mountain was made of an anthill.

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RENAMING ALL IAF TYPES OF AIRCRAFT WITH SANSKRIT NAMES
All aircraft in the Indian Air Force were given Sanskrit names sometime in the late 80s. For instance, the Mirage 2000 was rechristened Vajra, Jaguars became Shamsher, IL-76s became Gajraj, etc. This idea died a natural death. Later inductions like the SU-30MKI, Hawk, Pilatus, C-17 Globemaster, C-130 Hercules, etc., have no Sanskrit names. There is no record of these decisions in the public domain. I think that these names should be removed. If there is no objection to my proposal, I will remove these names on April 21, 2019.
I have also posted this message in the Talk section of the article on the Mirage 2000.--Moitraanak (talk) 09:56, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

• Vajra removed from the article on Mirage 2000. --Moitraanak (talk) 18:38, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

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Should not really be altered after they have been replied to.Slatersteven (talk) 16:26, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

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No. 1 Squadron IAF

1 Sqn AF, a Compendium of Mistakes and Mistruths

I wonder who has written this half-page. It is not signed and is an insult to English, History and Journalism. 1 Sqn AF is the oldest Sqn in the IAF, almost 86 years old. Its recorded history runs into scores of pages. Only the following few lines of the wiki article are close to correct, written in poor English:

No. 1 Squadron (The Tigers) is the oldest squadron of the Indian Air Force. It operates as a multirole (air superiority, precision strike, and electronic warfare) unit. Based at Gwalior AFB, No. 1 Squadron falls under the Central Air Command, and along with No. 7 Squadron (Battle Axes), No. 9 Squadron (Wolf Pack), and TACDE, forms a part of 40 Wing of the Indian Air Force.

This part of the article is mostly incorrect: 12 days after the Pulwama bombing by a terrorist killIBG 40 CRPF troopers, four Mirage 2000 fighters of the Tiger Squadron launched either ystal Maze missiles or SPICE 2000 smart bombs inside PoK on a Jungle destroying 12 trees and claimed destruction a militant training camp at Balakot, Manshera, Pakistan. IAF claimed killing of over 300 militants and terror recruits, howerver International Media and independent sources declined any such claims. As a result of this misadventure of 1 Squadron IAF lost 1 Fighter Jets To Pakistan Airforce[2]. IAF shot down 1 F-16 of PAF. IAF awarded the kill too Wing Commander Abhi Nandan. Wing Commander Abhinandan's plane was also downed and he was captured by the Pakistan Army

Opinions anybody? If there is no correction made AND SIGNED by a writer who can write in decent English by 19 May, I shall be removing and repairing this apology of an article.--Moitraanak (talk) 14:49, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

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• I intend removing the " By Whom" query in subpara 2. Details will be on the Talk page there.

--Moitraanak (talk) 13:40, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Editing Talk:No. 1 Squadron IAF (section)

1 Sqn AF, a Compendium of Mistakes and Mistruths

No. 1 Squadron (The Tigers) is the oldest squadron of the Indian Air Force. It operates as a multirole (air superiority, precision strike, and electronic warfare) unit. Based at Gwalior AFB, No. 1 Squadron falls under the Central Air Command, and along with No. 7 Squadron (Battle Axes), No. 9 Squadron (Wolf Pack), and TACDE, forms a part of 40 Wing of the Indian Air Force. 12 days after the Pulwama bombing by a terrorist killIBG 40 CRPF troopers, four Mirage 2000 fighters of the Tiger Squadron launched either ystal Maze missiles or SPICE 2000 smart bombs inside PoK destructing a militant training camp at Balakot, Manshera, Pakistan. IAF claimed killing . As a result of this misadventure of 1 Squadron IAF lost 1 Fighter Jets To Pakistan Airforce and pakistan loses its one F16 jets. IAF shot down 1 F-16 of PAF. IAF awarded the kill too Wing Commander Abhi Nandan. Wing Commander Abhinandan's plane was also downed and he was captured by the Pakistan Army.
Almost all of the stub above is a caricature of the truth. The author is evidently from outside the privileged world of the Fighter Pilot. He has even got the name and rank of the Sqn Cdr wrong. As stated by me on its talk page some days ago, I shall be removing and reconstructing this nonsense into an acceptable article. --Moitraanak (talk) 17:56, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

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MiG-29

According to the section 2019 India–Pakistan standoff in the article on the Pakistani Air Force, I object to the use of a twitter post as a reference. Who is Mr Omar r Quraishi, @omar_quraishi? "Meanwhile, a Twitter post reportedly shows PAF Squadron Leader, Hasan Siddiqui, taking credit for the downing of an Indian MiG-29.[70]"
I am surprised that a twitter post is afforded the luxury of being quoted as a reference.
When making such tall claims, the author should put in some homework and not make an unverifiable statement that, apart from being contrary to Wikipedia's maxims, will make him look foolish. IAF MiG-29s cannot be put on ORP because they are twin engined. They are not required in one-off clashes with any adversary as the SU-30MKIs have taken over that role in totality. MiG-29s form the second line of defence after the Sukhoi Su-30MKI.<ref>https://www.news18.com/news/auto/indian-air-force-and-its-fighter-jets-mirage-2000-mig-21-sukhoi-su-30mki-and-more-2052469.html</ref> Their primary role is Air Escort. On 26 and 28 Feb 2019, the nearest MiG-29 were on ground at three frontline IAF Bases in the Punjab, with two aircraft at each base dedicated to the top cover of the IAF AWACS, AAR and AEW&C aircraft. No MiG-29 took to the air in anger on those two days. Some SU-30MKIs did.
The said quote may please be deleted.

• --Moitraanak (talk) 14:36, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
  
• --Moitraanak (talk) 20:51, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

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