User talk:Mmounties/Archive 2
My (HereToHelp’s) RfA
editThank you for supporting my RfA. I’m proud to inform you that it passed with 75 support to 1 oppose to 2 neutral. I promise to make some great edits in the future (with edit summaries!) and use these powers to do all that I can to help. After all, that’s what I’m here for! (You didn’t think I could send a thank you note without a bad joke, could I?) --HereToHelp 12:53, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
Thank you!
editFor dropping by on my usertalk some time back, I was pretty stressed, and a good wikibreak sorted that perfectly. I'm now back and editing :) . Thanks again for the note! All the best Banez 15:11, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
General Atomic
editFixed "Romans" to Romans-sur-Isère, the correct location in France, which already has a Wikipedia entry. So that's done. --John Nagle 23:47, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
Template categories
editHey, great work on all those templates! I was wondering whether you would like to put them in a good category. The best I found was the rather empty Category:German navigational boxes, but you could also create your own subcategory. Instructions are at the category page (don't forget the <noinclude>). The part that is noinclude'd out could also contain an interwiki link. All of that is not important and just silly perfectionism, though :-) Kusma (討論) 04:11, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
- na, na, na, na. Not silly at all. I was thinking about doing that but couldn't find a good category and didn't feel like dealing with it then. (Lazy me). But now, that I'm almost done with Baden-Württemberg and getting ready to move on to Bavaria (after my move), maybe it's time. What do you mean with the <noinclude>? What does that do? --Mmounties (Talk) 04:19, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
- If you add a category to a template directly, then any page that includes the template will be in the category. (Typical examples are stub or cleanup categories). So to categorize the template, but not the pages where it is included, you put the category inside a
- <noinclude>...</noinclude>
- construction. (There is also the opposite: To add a category to articles using a template, but not the template itself, place it in
- <includeonly>...</incudeonly>
- tags. There is probably a help file on this somewhere; if you need more explanation, I'll go and find it for you. --Kusma (討論) 04:28, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
- If you add a category to a template directly, then any page that includes the template will be in the category. (Typical examples are stub or cleanup categories). So to categorize the template, but not the pages where it is included, you put the category inside a
Eau de cologne
edit4711.com and my gut feeling say "Original Eau de Cologne". Kusma (討論) 04:31, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
Romans, Ain
editHi I've put the correct disamig to Romans, Ain into the Bourg-en-Bresse page. Dlyons493 Talk 15:31, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
Dankeschön
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Hi Mmounties, how are you? a big Thank You for supporting me in my Request for adminship. I never thought I would get so much support, I was really surprised and I am extremely humbled as well. If you need any assistance or help, or have a comment about my performance, you know where to catch me ;-) have a good one and all the best... Gryffindor 16:42, 2 April 2006 (UTC) |
(copied from Gryffindor's page):Since you seems to be online... I'm trying to think of the name of the guy who in Greek legend/mythology had to keep rolling the big rock up the hill and every time he was almost there it kept rolling back down and I'm blanking out on him. Can you think of his name? Thanks.
piece of cake, you know the German saying "Sisyphusarbeit"?-) Gryffindor 16:50, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
- Yes! I knew I could rely on you! I couldn't - for the live of me - think of him. I was stuck on Phyrrus for some reason. ;-). Thanks.
- de nada. It's funny you would ask this, because my mother always moans about her doing "Sisyphusarbeit" so basically it's a term I am too familiar with *lol* Gryffindor 17:01, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
- Hahahaha! I know the way she feels! (I just came across the PRIME example of Sisyphusarbeit in Wiki. It's the links to disambig pages. My God! Anyone needing edits in mainspace, this is the place to get them. Let me tell you!)
- No kidding. What's even worse is having to clean up all the links when an article gets moved to a new name, no one seems to bother anymore. Sometimes even double-redirect are not cleaned up, complete Sisyphus. Although in this case, once it gets done it should hopefully stay on top and not roll down the hill again... Gryffindor
Thanks
editSomeone imported the pictures I wanted to get, but it would be intresting to know, how to import photos. And yes, the Düsselthal-article was translated (from myself, in the German Wikipedia I got another username). I grew up there. Coffeinfreak 18:37, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
My RfA
editHi. I am sorry to bother you but I wondered if you might be prepared to take another look at my RfA nomination. The main reason that I ask this is because there has previously been some confusion as to my talk count and I also wonder if there might have been some confusion regarding the duration of my contributions. I would also like to comment on some of the concerns raised by others, which I have discussed on the nomination page, but which you may not be aware of.
Firstly with regard to my talk contributions and the duration of my contributions. I just wanted to clarify that I do have substantial numbers of contributions in the user talk namespace although significantly less in the main article and wikipedia talk namespace, so I do have a good history of interactions with other users but primarily on their user page (furthermore I have a good track record of warning vandals - something is often lacking for many vandal fighters both admin and non-admin). Regarding the duration of my contributions, I just wanted to clarify that I have now been contributing for 15 months in total and, although I have had a few "lean" months when my focus have been outside of Wikipedia, I had almost 2000 contributions before February and there have been 9 months when I have made 100+ contributions.
WIth regards to the concerns raised by other, which aren't covered by the above, they seem to relate primarily to my lack of contributions to the article talk and wikipedia talk namespaces and what this says about my community involvement and exposure to process. Firstly I would like to say that I don't think my contributions in this area are particularly low when compared to other current nominees and recently created admins who are/were heavily supported (I have provided some details on this in the comments section of the nomination) - as I said in the comments section this is not to say "they are supported so why aren't I", rather it is just to provide a benchmark to compare how common my contribution pattern is. Secondly I would like to point out that I do not typically revert vandalism in these namespaces which I believe play a significant part in the number of these contributions for vandal-fighter editors (especially in the article talk namespace). Finally I would just like to reiterate my personal opinion that, regarding edits to Wikipedia talk, contributing and understanding are different things (i.e. I do understand the policys and guidelines even though I have not actively contributed to them). With regard to my community involvement, I do have a fair number of edits to the mian Wikipedia namespace and also the user talk namespace as previously mentioned.
I understand that contacting you in this way may well be considered "campaigning" but I want to assure you that I am driven by good practical intentions rather than ego. As you will be aware, I am primarily a vandal fighter and I feel that the admin tools will allow me to far better serve the community in this area. Specifically I come across a lot of situations were there are very few editors on RC patrol and a lot of vandalism is being missed, this is compounded by the fact that AIAV is often not being heavily monitored during the same periods meaning that blocks are delayed and a lot of time is spent reverting vandals who have already received a final warning. This extra time spent reverting known vandals obviously mean that much new vandalism is missed - with the obvious effect on the quality and credibility of Wikipedia.
I would like to sum by saying that I feel I could make good use of the tools and that I have never done anything to raise concerns that I would misuse them. Cheers TigerShark 20:55, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know of the additional comments and also for giving me additional information here. I had not gone back to your RfA page since I hade voted so I didn't see them. Regarding low edit count in some areas/spaces, I don't look for that as much as for a sign that your edits are of good quality. Upon closer examination of your edits in the various areas, they seem to be so I changed my vote. --Mmounties (Talk) 21:36, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
Thank you
editThank you for your vote of confidence in my recent request for bureaucratship. Even though it didn't pass, I greatly appreciate your support and hope I will continue to have your respect. Thank you! Flcelloguy (A note?) 22:59, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
My ogg files
editHello Mmounties! I have recently started recording the pronunciation of the German names for various places in Central and Eastern Europe. I have begun listing them at User:Olessi/Ogg. Although I am not a native German speaker and I have been influenced a bit by Holsteinisch, I have tried to give Hochdeutsch pronunciations. However, I wouldn't be at all surprised if some of them sound goofy to a native speaker. Would you mind listening to them sometime and letting me know if there are any I recorded poorly and need to improve upon? Olessi 23:09, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
- That's a VERY nice job, you did there. A couple of very minor comments (and I wouldn't redo anything for it): (1) You seem to roll the "R"s if they either appear in the beginning of a word or after another consonant (specifically B, P, F and T's. You also rolled it in Marienburg and Thorn. I've never heard a German in regular conversation do that (except if they're from Bavaria and even there they only really do it emphasize). :) Apart from that I only noticed that you spoke Osterode with an open O in the beginning. It should be a closed O like is Ostern, not like Osten; and Frauenburg sounds like Frauenborg. Like I said, the way you pronounced them is perfectly acceptable. These are just some things to consider as you go on. Oh, and I changed the German word for Schlesien from Silesia. ;-) Hope this helps. --Mmounties (Talk) 23:27, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for your observations! When I began learning German in high school, our teacher had us rolling "R"s. An instructor in Kiel corrected me a few years later and made the same observations about Bairische. When preparing to record these .ogg files, however, I noticed how a number of files at commons:Category:German pronunciation had rolled "R"s, and that influenced the way I was pronouncing the names. I am planning to rerecord the files in question, as I would like to get them as close to Standard German as I can. The "O" in Ostpreußen should then be open as well? Also, should Lyck have standard "y" pronunciation (somewhat similar to Lück)? Olessi 00:26, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
- Oki, that's how I had recorded Lyck a few days ago (haven't gotten around to uploading it yet). I just rerecorded Osterode- want to give a listen again and see if I have the opening "O"s better this time? Also, should Breslau have a short or long "E"? Also, if this starts to clutter up your talk page, feel free to continue discussion at User talk:Olessi/Ogg. :-) Olessi 00:43, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
RFA Thanks
editHi Mmounties. Thank you for your support vote on my RFA. The final result was a successful request based on 111 support and 1 oppose. --CBDunkerson 12:49, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
Sanssouci
editChange what you don't like. All the information is there, it (IMO) just need a reshuffle, and shortening a little. The FA requirements here are a little more demanding than on the German wiki. You had better check my spelling and grammar. Sadly I don't think it can realistically pass FAC this time, but if we all get on to it within a month it can be on the main page. I don't want to take your page over, so please alter what you don't like. Regards Giano | talk 23:02, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
- On no non no no no to you too, I'm not doing it all on my own! But I'm not having a debate over those slippers and that stomach - they are going, and staying gone! OK? ;-) Giano | talk 23:11, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
Our RfAs
editHello Mmounties/Archive 2: Thank you for supporting me in my RfA, which passed with a final tally of 77/3/0. I hope I can perform at the standards expected for administrators. If I make any mistakes, or you need anything, please let me know. Prodego talk 01:26, 4 April 2006 (UTC) |
Hi Mmounties. Just a quick note to thank you for your support in my RfA, which recently passed 62/13/6. I will do my very best live up to this new responsibility and to serve the community, but please let me know if I make any mistakes or if you have any feedback at all on my actions. Finally, if there is anything that I can assist you with - please don't hesitate to ask. Cheers TigerShark 03:56, 4 April 2006 (UTC) |
Meinungsbild
editEin Meinungsbild über die Einbindung von Flaggenicons bei den Städtepartnerschaften in Ortsartikeln ist in Vorbereitung (ähnlich dem MB über Piktogramme). Deine Argumentation war sehr schlüssig. Bitte sorge dafür, dass du die Stimmberechtigung erlangst (200 Artikeledits).
Fanfaronade
editThe title of the handbook is "The New Palace at Sanssouci", published by the Prussian Palaces and Gardens Foundation Berlin-Brandenburg (www.spsg.de), Potsdam 2003. I haven't a clue how to render it properly for the purposes of citation. It came from page 3 of the handbook. Charles 19:56, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
- I added notes to the page, above each passage, with where the info may be found. Most of it came from the translation, but almost all of it can be found in the handbook. Just click to edit the page and they're viewable. Charles 20:42, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #2
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Kusma's RFA
editThank you very much for your support in my request for adminship. I think your strong recommendation helped me to a lot more votes than I could have expected otherwise. You already know you can always ask at my talk page for any help you might need - just the scope of my possible help has expanded (although I'll start slowly on the admin buttons -- I am still getting used to the new look of everything). I hope everything works well with your move and look forward to hearing from you again from California, Kusma (討論) 19:29, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
thanks for the support
editHi Mmounties- thanks a lot for your support on my recent, (barely) successful rfa. Please feel free to leave me any comments or criticisms on my talk page! --He:ah? 22:42, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Thank you, I've been promoted. pschemp | talk 01:16, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Bagel
editHi buddy.
I can send to you in Me a full bag of Montréal's MileEnd bagel by FedEx l!!!!
From our rural area of Québec Eastern Townships, we use to go to Montreal for grocery.
Takima 19:40, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Sanssouci is a Featured Article
edit- I think we can give ourselves a brief pat on the back as Sanssouci is now a Featured article. Now it is time to comment here [1]. Regards Giano | talk 08:01, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
My RfA
editMany thanks for your support on my recent RfA. It was successful. Thanks again, Mark83 08:58, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Austrian Emperors Francis Joseph and Charles
editDear Mmounties,
I have brought the articles for these two emperors up for move. Would you care to lend some insight and possibly a vote? Many thanks in advance. Charles 20:16, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
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Old Skool Esperanzial note
editSince this isn't the result of an AC meeting, I have decided to go Old Skool. This note is to remind you that the elections are taking place now and will end at 23:50 UTC on 2006-04-29. Please vote here. Thanks. --Celestianpower háblame 20:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
Austrian Emperors
editOh, they went great! I found German to be the easiest (imagine that!). I finished almost two weeks ago and I am currently back at my parents' house. It's also not too long before I head off on a trip to New England. Bad news upon returning home though, my cat of 8 years died :-( Charles 15:20, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
- We have a pup (well, she's a year old) too. She's a purebred German shepherd. I'm still at the point where I expect my kitty to bolt around the corner, with this hyperactive pup in chase. I thought I knew what silence was, then I came home to no fights between cats and dogs. He will be missed, but I remember him fondly and always will :-) Charles 19:31, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
- Well, my cat was the feistiest little beast I ever did see. He was extremely territorial as well; he really was king of the house. Given his jet-black colour, we called him the Prince of Darkness on occasion (for his colour and feisty attitude). He would tease the dog to no end so that the dog would react and then he would passively act as if he had done nothing wrong! The dog really does miss him though. She ran away the day after he went missing. We think she was looking for him. I think deep down they really liked each other. Charles 19:49, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Welcome back
editIt's good to see you editing again even if you're still deep in moving/unpacking stuff etc. Thanks for your nice words -- I was pretty happy myself with the lack of oppose and neutral votes. I'll be mostly on a wikibreak for the next two weeks (I'm in Europe), but I'll be able to get next month's stuff up for the Portal in time. Could you check out Portal talk:Germany and comment on Angr's proposal of a Sanssouci double feature? I think I'll create the pages for next month on Friday or so. All the best, Kusma (討論) 12:02, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
Nice to see you back. Yeah I was surprised too, I realised there was time to re-open the FAC debate, and with one quibble it sailed through with no problems. Easiest I've ever known there. The quibble was addressed (sort of) and the objector (I don't think he actually objected) never returned and that was that. It will eventually get to the front page, but that in my experience that can be a mixed blessing, nice to see at first, but then often horrible to watch as people start to edit, vandalise and carve the page up. With all modesty, I do think it is at present one of Wikipedia's best pages - long may it stay that way. If you ever need any more architectural advice give me a call. So long Giano | talk 09:32, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
- Seen this [2]? Giano | talk 12:40, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
Re the whole de-bureaucrating thing
editHi, I never came to thank you for the message you left for me a month ago when I stepped down from being a bureaucrat. Thank you for the things you said, it's good to know there are still plenty of good people about in this project. I do not see myself standing for bureaucrat again anytime soon though who knows what the future may bring! Thank you once again. -- Francs2000 09:59, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
Elections
editThanks for supporting me in the Esperanza Advisory Council Elections. Although I wasn't elected to the Advisory Council, I am very happy with the response I received from my fellow Wikipedians. I was shocked at the support, and was touched by it. Hopefully I will re-apply in June and try again for the job. Thanks again, Highway Rainbow Sneakers
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Re: Did you see this
editNo, I hadn't because I've been out of town since around mid-day Thursday and only got back around 9:30 last night. Thank you for bringing it to my attention, or I probably would have only noticed when Sanssouci made the front page. After all the hard work everyone put into the linking articles, this is very exciting. Thanks again. --Inge-Lyubov 14:12, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
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Two misnamed royals
editHi Mmounties;
Can you join the vote at Talk:Marie-Chantal, Princess of Greece and Denmark and Talk:Cecilie of Mecklenburg-Schwerin? They have been moved without discussion. Thanks. Charles 16:35, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
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Remember this perplexing "little" article? It was very user unfriendly and did not present anything in a particularly readable or even all-inclusive manner. I have researched the ancestors of Nicholas II and came up with the ahnentafel (only back five generations so far). However, on the talk page, there is a user who has been following my edits and he has apparently objected to my removal of the content of the first page. Since the content is preserved in the edit history, I think it's fine even though the first batch of info is pretty useless. Charles 00:52, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Georg Forster
editI have worked a bit on finding more citable sources for the article, and have expanded it a bit more. Could you try to give it a little more polish? I am not certain how well the prose in the "Forster at universities" section flows not that I have inserted some more stuff. If you feel that there are points where I should try to give more details, please say so. Thanks for your help, Kusma (討論) 00:19, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
- The article is now featured :-) Thanks a lot for your help! Kusma (討論) 04:45, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
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File:Atlanticpuffin4.jpg | Hello Mmounties. Danke for your support at my request for adminship which ended at the overwhelming and flattering result of (160/1/0), and leaves me in a position of having to live up to a high standard of community expectation. You can see me in action and observe what then happened as a result. If you need admin assistance, feel free to ask me. Naturally, if I make any procedural mistakes, feel free to point them out. I look forward to working with you in the future, hopefully as an admin. Enjoy the Maine summer! Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 04:11, 31 May 2006 (UTC) |
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Wikiquette
editHi Mmounties;
Could you take a look at Wikipedia:Wikiquette_alerts#20_June_2006? I am the subject of an alert. While you and I don't argue (at least, not anymore), I feel you can contribute a fair and objective opinion in consideration of all parties involved. Many thanks. Charles 18:21, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
A short Esperanzial update
editAs you may have gathered, discussions have been raging for about a week on the Esperanza talk page as to the future direction of Esperanza. Some of these are still ongoing and warrant more input (such as the idea to scrap the members list altogether). However, some decisions have been made and the charter has hence been amended. See what happened. Basically, the whole leadership has had a reshuffle, so please review the new, improved charter.
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editHallo Mmounties- Regarding the above article, are you sure that S. granulatus is a look-alike? My mushroom book, the Audubon Field Guide to Mushrooms, has that mushroom in it, but doesn't give it as a look-alike. It gives S. subluteus (Slippery Jill) and S. cothurnatus. -Eric (talk) 04:32, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
- Hi Mmounties- Maybe I'll just add the look-alikes from my Audubon book and leave the one that's there. Do you know the Wikipedia policy regarding directly quoting info from a reference book? Also, thanks for the Bude note--I added that meaning to the etymology footnote. -Eric (talk) 23:11, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
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