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Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! Miniapolis (talk) 23:19, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi and thanks for the remarks. I realized form the start that there was going to be a problem with references, as I simply don't have any apart from 1988 print-outs from bulletin boards, email messages, photographs. As I compiled a lot of the original sources in a document back in 1988, those sources I don't even have anymore (rudimentary emails of the late 1980's, fax forms, own notes). I interviewed one of the skiers myself, at the North-Pole, and have the audio cassette tape in my possession. But I wouldn't know how to put that down as a reference, other than 'own material'. The basic story is available on the internet, and will show up when googling for 'Skitrek progress reports'. As far as I know, no-one has written any permanent general article about this expedition, but there were newspaper, radio and television interviews and reports. I was involved in the distribution of messages of the expedition's progress through digital amateur radio distribution (packet radio) and satellite, and was invited as one of the Radio-Amateurs to the North-Pole celebration - hence my own photographs from the North-Pole. I made care not write the article as a self-experience, but from an independent perspective. There is obviously some focus on my part of the operation as well as the actual expedition. Ski-trek is mentioned as a 'page does not exist' on the list of polar expeditions in wikipedia. Please advise, it would be a shame if this partly first-hand information would be lost.

Sorry for not replying sooner, but RL obligations got in the way. As a ham myself, I sympathize with your problem but Wikipedia is primarily concerned with its credibility (as it should be). The notability guideline states, "Information on Wikipedia must be verifiable; if no reliable third-party sources can be found on a topic, then it should not have a separate article". I've read (can't remember where, unfortunately) that it's less important on WP for something to be true than for it to be verifiable. Returning to the source problem, the issue is that all the sources you mention are primary sources; WP articles require significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. I checked three subscription search engines (HighBeam Research, Credo Reference and Questia) and Google News with no results (except for a pay-per-view letter to the editor in the Toronto Star during the appropriate time period). Don't worry about the red link in List of Arctic expeditions; that just means there's no WP article for Ski-Trek. You mention contemporary newspaper, radio and television interviews and reports; several newspaper clippings (identifiable by newspaper and date) would be sufficient to establish notability and verifiability. Good luck and 73, Miniapolis (talk) 19:59, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi Miniapolis - I understand what you're saying -it makes sense!. I did some research on the internet and actually found quite a few links, even some books. What I meant about the red-links is that it was high time for an article to appear! Actually that red link made me think of writing this article! Could you have a look and advise if like this the article is better? I also changed the title a bit: from Ski-Trek to 'Ski-Trek and Norski-Comm'. The phrase 'Polar Bridge' should actually also link to this article, but i don't know (yet) how that mechanism works. Many thanks, and 73 Mljmeerman (talk) 22:04, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

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Miniapolis (talk) 18:21, 17 October 2012 (UTC)