Mkirmse12

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Speedy deletion nomination of Mike Kirmse

A tag has been placed on Mike Kirmse requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles – see the Article Wizard.

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September 2010

You should wait for others to write an article about subjects in which you are personally involved, instead of writing it yourself. This applies to articles about you, your achievements, your band, your business, your publications, your website, your relatives, and any other possible conflict of interest.

Creating an article about yourself is strongly discouraged. If you create such an article, it might be listed on articles for deletion. Deletion is not certain, but many feel strongly that you should not start articles about yourself. This is because independent creation encourages independent validation of both significance and verifiability. All edits to articles must conform to Wikipedia:No original research, Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, and Wikipedia:Verifiability.

If you are not "notable" under Wikipedia guidelines, creating an article about yourself may violate the policy that Wikipedia is not a personal webspace provider and would thus qualify for speedy deletion. If your achievements, etc., are verifiable and genuinely notable, and thus suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later. (See Wikipedia:Wikipedians with articles.) Thank you. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 22:09, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

First of all, you do not appear to meet Wikipedia's notability policies for athletes, as you apparently did not play or coach at the highest professional level in the USA or any other country. (That would be MLS, of course.) Second, posting one's autobiography is strongly discouraged, as it is seen as self-promotion. Read the athlete notability policies, and if you still feel you meet those, drop me a line and we'll discuss. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 22:29, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Having the Rhinos front office do the job might help with the autobiography issue, as long as they understand the notability guidelines, with the most important being that the player must have competed at the top pro level or on the national team. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 22:49, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Looks like you're in, or at least your article is. Apparently the USL is considered fully professional for Wikipedia purposes. This still doesn't solve the problem of you writing an article about you, though it looks like it's been edited quite a bit to alleviate that problem. Bear in mind that some other editor may come along and decide you're not notable after all and start a deletion discussion, but that's how Wikipedia works. Good luck. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 04:30, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Mike Kirmse

The article Mike Kirmse has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Athlete fails notability requirements -- never played at top professional level or on a national side.

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You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{dated prod}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 06:34, 5 September 2010 (UTC)