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Ohio Wikimedians User Group: April 2019 newsletter
General Updates
- To facilitate casual conversations between members, we now have a Facebook group! If you're on Facebook, feel free to request to join.
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Movement Strategy
- Sam (PonyToast) and Maria (Rimmel.Edits) have signed up to serve as our Organized Groups Strategy Liaisons; through December, Strategy Liaisons will act as a conduit for ideas, questions, and updates between the Movement Strategy and organized groups such as our own. Thank you to both members for taking this on!
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Recent Events
- WikiConference North America 2018 (Oct 18-21) at the Ohio State University was a great success! Over 200 attendees (including those representing over 15 Wikimedia affiliates and 25 academic institutions) attended the 70+ sessions we had. A big thanks goes to all the event's organizers, volunteers (including those from Ohio Wikimedians), sponsors, and session hosts. View the full report (work in progress) for more details and outcomes. You can also check out the photos on the Commons.
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- In February, NIOSH Cincinnati hosted a Hear in Cincinnati Edit-a-thon at the Cincinnati Children's Hospital, part of the Wiki4WorldHearingDay campaign in honor of World Hearing Day. Participants improved Wikipedia content related to hearing, hearing health services, hearing testing, preventive and treatment interventions.
- Our student group at the Ohio State University, Wikipedia Connection, hosted an Art+Feminism edit-a-thon on March 23 in collaboration with the Wexner Center for the Arts Student Engagement Group. 21 editors made 117 edits leading to over 75,000 article views; click here for more information.The University's student newspaper, The Lantern, covered the event: "Wikipedia edit-a-thon increases gender representation in the arts".
- Alden Library at Ohio University also independently hosted an Art+Feminism edit-a-thon on March 22. Check out the event page for more details. Outcomes included editing 27 articles, including the creation of a new one.
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Chronological order preferable per WP:BIB
"Chronological entries are most suitable for bibliographies on topics with a long history of literature on the topic. Chronological entries allow the user to see a progression on works on the topic over time. Alphabetical listings are suitable for shorter bibliographies and those where the difference between the earliest and latest publication dates is not great."
Given this, I think chronological order in this instance (St. Augustine movement) is appropriate, and more helpful. Putting them in order by author doesn't help users. deisenbe (talk) 17:15, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- Deisenbe That quote is from Wikipedia:WikiProject Bibliographies § Recommended structure. That entire section is an essay. The beginning of that section states:
- "This page is an essay on style. It contains the advice and/or opinions of one or more WikiProjects on how to format and present article content within their area of interest."
- "This WikiProject advice page is not a formal Wikipedia policy or guideline, as it has not been thoroughly vetted by the community."
- I don't recognize this essay as Wikipedia policy. I also have never encountered any bibliography sections ordered in chronological order, only alphabetical order. Mitchumch (talk) 21:09, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
Sorry!
At the end of March (sorry for the delay in responding!), you asked for "a link to a discussion for the formerly deleted article Chicago race riot of 1919". If you're asking about a discussion debate, there was none; rather, the article was deleted for procedural reasons. Specifically, we found that we needed to remove all articles which were sourced principally to the works of Jay Robert Nash. DS (talk) 22:54, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- DragonflySixtyseven It wasn't an emergency. I had never seen a redlink in the "Article milestones" section for any article. I only wanted to fix it if possible. Thank you. Mitchumch (talk) 23:06, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- Well, the milestones are incorrect. Deleted for procedural reasons involving unreliable sources and potential litigation (link to the Signpost entry); restored after problematic content removed. DS (talk) 23:15, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
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Ohio Wikimedians User Group: September 2019 newsletter
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- The Female and Under-represented Language Scientists edit-a-thon, hosted by the Hispanic Linguistic Colloquium in collaboration with the Buckeye Language Network (BLN) Student Association. The goal of the event was to improve articles on under-represented language scientists. 11 editors contributed 50+ edits that consisted of 1.54k words across 24 articles, including one new article.
- The Spanish & Portuguese Edit-A-Thon, hosted by students from the Spanish and Portuguese department (Dona pipoca and Caesarologia, with support from SuperHamster). The edit-a-thon focused on expanding coverage of Spanish and Portuguese topics on the English Wikipedia, primarily by translating articles from Spanish/Portuguese to English. In doing so, attendees sharpened their Spanish/Portuguese skills, gained experience editing Wikipedia, and learned about new topics. 23 editors contributed 180+ edits that consisted of 15.8k words across 70 articles, including four new articles.
- Wikimania 2019 took place in Stockholm this year, with several Ohio Wikimedians attending. If you're interested in some of the sessions, many of them were recorded and are available on the Commons here.
On behalf of the Ohio Wikimedians User Group, ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 04:51, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
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- Coffee Thank you for the holiday greeting. I'm sorry I'm late responding to it. I hope you had a great holiday season with minimum stress. Mitchumch (talk) 05:11, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
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Hi there, I'm not sure why you removed the sidebar at Assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 09:49, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
- Magnolia677 Please see talk page conversation "Removing navbox from articles" at Template talk:Campaignbox Civil rights movement. Mitchumch (talk) 17:39, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
Your suggested article title Freedom (American newspaper)
In regards to the title of what is presently titled Draft:Freedom (Robeson magazine): I would accept Freedom (American newspaper), because it is certainly preferable to Freedom (Robeson magazine). However, I am unenthusiastic about this proposed article title.
In further advocacy of the title that I propose, Freedom (African–American newspaper) (although I see that Wikipedia and many other sources are now omitting the hyphenated designation in favor of African American with no hyphen), I note that the article African-American newspapers refers to "the first African-American periodical called Freedom's Journal" in its lead paragraph. The article whose title we are discussing took its name from the name of that periodical (as the article itself notes). The lead of the article on Freedon's Journal states: "Freedom's Journal was the first African-American owned and operated newspaper published in the United States." That is, it gives further emphasis to "African-American."
I think that Freedom (American newspaper) hedges these associations, which would be an unfortunate result of giving the article that title. I think it is more specific and more accurate to use the title that I propose, Freedom (African–American newspaper) (or Freedom (African American newspaper), in keeping with evolving standards). Under either name, I look forward to this newspaper's inclusion in the article List of African-American newspapers and media outlets, which is presently unaware of it.
Thank you for your consideration. Larry Koenigsberg (talk) 02:57, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
- Larrykoen I will respond on the Draft talk:Freedom (Robeson magazine) page. Mitchumch (talk) 06:18, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
- I understand your rationale for Freedom (American newspaper), and it makes sense. So I will be happy to accept it. Can you make the change? I've already the PAGENAME. (And here's the link, if that makes it more convenient: Draft:Freedom (Robeson magazine). Also, thank you for your prompt response to my concerns. Larry Koenigsberg (talk) 19:56, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
Birmingham in the civil rights movement
- Would it be possible for you to create a stub or start article for Birmingham that could provide an overview of people, organizations, events, or local places that were pertinent to the civil rights movement in Birmingham. Please see Template:CRM in Alabama. I've been adding existing and need to be written articles into the template. I will eventually create a separate sidebar for Birmingham. If you want to add anything to the template or want to create stubs or start articles for anything else connected to the civil rights movement in Birmingham, then that would be appreciated. Mitchumch (talk) 22:34, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
- I'm interested in seeing Wikipedia better cover the topic of Birmingham in the civil rights movement, but I'm focused on my efforts to document the area on Bhamwiki. If it helps, all of the content on Bhamwiki is published under a license compatible with Wikipedia, so if you want to borrow from the work I and others have done there, it should be fairly easy to do so. Bhamwiki:Civil Rights Movement is probably a good place to start. I expect we'll have some improvements to the Fred Shuttlesworth entry soon as my wife has been reading the Manis biography. --Dystopos (talk) 20:39, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
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Stop removing "African American" from articles
STOP removing this term for no reason when it is a legitimate term that is used appropriately. Even worse, you then lie about it by leaving a deceptive edit summary claiming that you "replaced" a term. If you continue this disruptive editing, you could lose your editing privileges. Sundayclose (talk) 23:07, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Sundayclose The term African-American civil rights movement is NOT the WP:Common name for that historical event; it is an uncommon name. Please see Talk:Civil rights movement/Archive 13#Requested move 18 February 2018. I am also a member of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Civil Rights Movement. Please stop undoing my edits without discussion. Mitchumch (talk) 23:21, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Apologies, as I was unaware of the discussion. Although I disagree with your edit, I will not go against consensus. A word of advice, however: Make your edit summaries clearer. I think you should link the discussion, but at a minimum you should explain why you are removing the term. Thanks for the information. Sundayclose (talk) 23:33, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Sundayclose I appreciate that you reverted your edits, but I don't understand why you did not revert your edit for Civil Rights Act of 1964. Mitchumch (talk) 00:14, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- I don't see a problem with the history.com source. What's wrong with it? Sundayclose (talk) 00:16, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- Sundayclose It is not a WP:Reliable source. Please read Wikipedia:SOURCETYPES. Mitchumch (talk) 00:20, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- I disagree. I don't see much at Wikipedia:SOURCETYPES that would disqualify it. And that is a guideline, not a policy. It's not the New York Times, but it's not biased and has adequate editorial oversight. Sundayclose (talk) 00:25, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- Sundayclose Please see Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 294 in the section Is History.com (formerly History Channel) generally reliable?. Mitchumch (talk) 00:41, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- Here again, we are talking about a guideline, not a policy. And even in the discussion the consensus is not overwhelming. It depends on what is being sourced. If it was a highly technical matter, probably not. But for something pertaining to the 1964 Civil Rights Act, it's acceptable. Feel free to replace it with a better source. Sundayclose (talk) 01:04, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- Sundayclose I presented you with a community consensus of the reliability of History.com from a Wikipedia noticeboard. Around 32 users stated their position on that noticeboard question. Around three users stated History.com was reliable. Your position that History.com is a reliable source belongs to a tiny minority.
- Here again, we are talking about a guideline, not a policy. And even in the discussion the consensus is not overwhelming. It depends on what is being sourced. If it was a highly technical matter, probably not. But for something pertaining to the 1964 Civil Rights Act, it's acceptable. Feel free to replace it with a better source. Sundayclose (talk) 01:04, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- Sundayclose Please see Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 294 in the section Is History.com (formerly History Channel) generally reliable?. Mitchumch (talk) 00:41, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- I disagree. I don't see much at Wikipedia:SOURCETYPES that would disqualify it. And that is a guideline, not a policy. It's not the New York Times, but it's not biased and has adequate editorial oversight. Sundayclose (talk) 00:25, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- Sundayclose It is not a WP:Reliable source. Please read Wikipedia:SOURCETYPES. Mitchumch (talk) 00:20, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- I don't see a problem with the history.com source. What's wrong with it? Sundayclose (talk) 00:16, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- Sundayclose I appreciate that you reverted your edits, but I don't understand why you did not revert your edit for Civil Rights Act of 1964. Mitchumch (talk) 00:14, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- Apologies, as I was unaware of the discussion. Although I disagree with your edit, I will not go against consensus. A word of advice, however: Make your edit summaries clearer. I think you should link the discussion, but at a minimum you should explain why you are removing the term. Thanks for the information. Sundayclose (talk) 23:33, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- History.com is neither a scholarly (secondary) source nor a news organization per Wikipedia:SOURCETYPES.
- It is an unreasonable expectation to think that I will ignore guidelines produce by community consensus AND a Wikipedia noticeboard discussion surrounding the reliability of History.com. Your position does not have support from community consensus. Mitchumch (talk) 02:44, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- Feel feel to discuss on the article's talk page, or provide a different source. Sundayclose (talk) 03:07, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- It is an unreasonable expectation to think that I will ignore guidelines produce by community consensus AND a Wikipedia noticeboard discussion surrounding the reliability of History.com. Your position does not have support from community consensus. Mitchumch (talk) 02:44, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- Sundayclose I have an alternative suggestion. Remove the statement and place it on the talk page. You or some other editor finds a reliable source that supports that claim. If no claim is found, then it stays on the talk page. Mitchumch (talk) 12:36, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
I rewrote the last sentence of the paragraph using a different source. I assume you would consider the U.S. Senate a reliable source. The paragraph needs such a strong statement to highlight the profound impact of the act that is described later in the article. Feel free to tweak the wording, but if you disagree with any of this, this certainly is a matter that you should discuss on the article's talk page so that frequent editors of the article can be aware. Sundayclose (talk) 16:39, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- Sundayclose Looks good. Thank You. Mitchumch (talk) 19:45, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
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