User talk:Miesianiacal/April 2016-June 2022

File talk:Coat of arms of Canada.svg

For the record, I agree with you. However I am not sure adding my voice will contribute to the discussion. I am sorry others do not see it our way. Fry1989 ^eh? 01:21, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Images at Monarchy of Canada

Will you stop reverting to your personal preference? The article is about the Monarchy, therefore symbols of the Monarchy should be used. It makes no sense to display the image of William's banner before that of Her Majesty, especially without displaying the banner of the Prince of Wales who is heir apparent to the throne. There is no consensus at Talk:Monarchy of Canada regarding what the display should be, so any further changes to the display of banners will be reported to WP:ANEW. You may consider this notice the equivalent of {{uw-ew}}. I will also place a similar notification on the talk pages of other editors involved. — Jkudlick • t • c • s 00:18, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Much of what you've written is not reflective of reality. The rest is unclear: Do you mean further changes to the status quo, none of which have consensus? Or do you mean further changes from the changes made to the status quo without consensus but which you personally prefer? I certainly hope you aren't resorting to threatening everyone away from ever changing your favoured edit. --₪ MIESIANIACAL 00:31, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Well, @Jkudlick:, GoodDay's gone and made a change. Will you be reporting him now? --₪ MIESIANIACAL 00:41, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

If you look at the time stamps, that edit was made before I notified any editors of my intent to report any further warring to ANEW. Though I will admit that a warning was not required, I believe in providing all available opportunities to resolve conflict, and I cannot report an edit made before my warning. — Jkudlick • t • c • s 00:46, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Oh, yes, of course. It's simply coincidence it's an edit you've just expressed support for and the fact it has as little consensus as any other alteration to what was there for a very long time is completely irrelevant. --₪ MIESIANIACAL 00:49, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Recent edits to Lieutenant Governor of Ontario

Thank you for your recent edits to Lieutenant Governor of Ontario.

Regardless of the standard nature of the text across articles about Canadian Lieutenant Governors, which seems to be flawed…

I would be curious to know your source for the assertion that the Lieutenant Governor is "tasked with carrying out most of the monarch's constitutional and ceremonial duties". In fact, the monarch has no constitutional duties in respect of Ontario. Put another way: If the Lieutenant Governor carries out most of The Queen's duties, which ones are or could be carried out by Her Majesty personally? The Queen does not form part of provincial constitutions, and neither has Her Majesty been endowed with any functions by provincial legislation.

For the same reasons, it seems erroneous to claim that The Queen "operates distinctly within the province". To suggest (and I believe it is so suggested) that Her Majesty could exercise powers in respect of Ontario if only she didn't "live predominantly in her oldest realm, the United Kingdom" is very misleading. Jagislaqroo (talk) 21:56, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Another UN sock?

See the IP active at Talk:List of universities in Canada and Talk:Canada Day, and the IP's contribution history. Contributions to Canada Day and Battle of Ontario. Battleground mentality and attacks at the above two talk pages, the latter of which subject to much past battles waged by UN. Edit summaries featuring "lol", "peacock terms", "nonsense" and pushing BRD. Quack? Hwy43 (talk) 07:06, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

I do see similarities there. Even the misspelling of "your" (as "you're") rings a bell as something UrbanNerd/PhilthyBear used to do. --₪ MIESIANIACAL 16:27, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Miesianiacal and @Hwy43: Sorry to intrude, but I couldn't help it... I totally agree with you. This user is very disruptive and doesn't seem to like discussion as he always reverts my messages on his talk page with no talk back whatsoever, as well as on those two wiki talk pages you mentioned. And with those "lol" edit summaries to boot, he is clearly WP:NOTHERE and is just trying to retaliate childishly from the discussions at Canada Day and is holding a grudge for whatever reason. I don't think he's broken 3RR, but I don't think he should continue to get away with his actions. Regards, Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 18:45, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

If he is who we think he is, he shouldn't be editing Wikipedia at all; he was indef banned from the project. Maybe a small note at AN/I would bring about an end to this current bout of abuse from UrbanNerd/PhilthyBear... --₪ MIESIANIACAL 20:43, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Miesianiacal, Vaselineeeeeeee and Dbrodbeck: yes, he shouldn't be editing if the suspicion is correct. Given others seem to suspect the same, I'll set up a new sockpuppet investigation (likely this evening). Cheers, Hwy43 (talk) 21:43, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

I doubt it's even worth the trouble now that he's posted this charming (and typical of UrbanNerd/PhilthyBear) message. I'd say a quick note at AN/I is enough. --₪ MIESIANIACAL 17:21, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Miesianiacal, I agree. That is obviously an unnecessary personal attack. I'll send in a quick note to An/I ASAP. Regards, Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 21:52, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

I have an ANI request half prepared but by all means proceed. It will save me the time to complete it, which may not be until tomorrow anyway as I 've got commitments for the next few hours. Cheers, Hwy43 (talk) 22:01, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

@Hwy43:, I was preparing one at now from comments strung together from here. Since yours is probably more planned out, if you want you can send me what you've got and I can push it out right away. Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 22:07, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Can't. It's on laptop at home. At tire shop right now. Playing hockey in an hour. Likely not back home for at least four hours. Giver. I'll supplement afterwards if anything further is needed. Cheers. Hwy43 (talk) 22:14, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

I opened a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#64.229.246.209 disruptive behaviour. Give any other input. Thanks guys. Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 23:30, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Miesianiacal and @Hwy43: Someone has now opened a proposal for a "community ban". I guess this is likely the only solution? Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 15:41, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

Look what he's just wrote to me (mild personal attack). I've made it apparent in the ANI that he's yet again sent another personal attack and just doesn't get it. Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 12:11, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, that's typical. Ain't no thang, though.

Did you know he once wrote something about me so heinous it had to be stricken permanently from Wikipedia? --₪ MIESIANIACAL 16:01, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Wow... This user just doesn't learn, and clearly doesn't want to learn either. Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 16:36, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Well, our thread has since been closed and archived with Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/PhilthyBear being created. It states pending approval so I figure we'll have to wait. Regards, Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 15:36, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

"Proper titles"

Hello.

You are welcome to discuss why you think your piping of titles, referred to you as "proper titles", is correct on Talk:Freeman Freeman-Thomas, 1st Marquess of Willingdon.

HandsomeFella (talk) 11:49, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Given your issue with comprehending WP:BRD and the fact you missed the discussion I opened before you started yours, I suggest you take some time to read and understand before proceeding with anything. Your confusion won't help matters at all. --₪ MIESIANIACAL 16:04, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi, I wanted to help Mr. Sanzhar Sultan have his last name changed on Wikipedia. He is currently listed as "Sanzhar Sultanov". But as per his recently updated IMDb and LinkedIN page, he is listed with the last name "Sultan".

You edited something on his page previously. Would you consider making this further edit?

Thank you.

TempAccQ (talk) 12:23, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Royal standards of Canada

I am looking at adding usage of the British royal standards in Canada prior to the adoption of the Canadianised standards, but thought I would check in with you first to see what you think. I've done some photographic research of previous royal visits and tours and have found several examples going back to 1860-2009 of use of the British Royal Standard, as well as the standards of The Prince of Wales, The Princess Elizabeth (prior to becoming Queen), and the standard for members of the Royal Family not entitled to their own standard based on their coat of arms. Fry1989 ^eh? 14:33, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Can you please explain why you removed my section? You ignored me here, so you appeared to have no opinion in either way. Why should we not mention the use of the British standards in Canada? It only adds to knowledge of the subject of the article. Fry1989 ^eh? 23:05, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

My edit summary was quite clear. The article does mention the use of British standards. So, clearly I have no problem with it. --₪ MIESIANIACAL 23:11, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

There is a minor paragraph and thank you for including my addition in condensed form, but should we not elaborate and include the images? 1860-2009 is a pretty long time, I think it is worthy. Your edit summary takes issue with how I wrote it as if it was more about the history of royal tours than the flags themselves. Surely we can write it differently. Fry1989 ^eh? 23:35, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

What more is there to elaborate on? When one says "before there were Canadian royal standards, members of the Royal Family used British royal standards while touring Canada", it's redundant to add "when in Canada in 1919, the Prince of Wales used the Prince of Wales' flag for England and Wales." Obviously he used that flag, the first sentence said so. I guess you could point out when the first use in Canada of the monarch's or the Prince of Wales' banner was. But, no more than that. Certainly no gallery that only duplicates what's at Royal standards of the United Kingdom. --₪ MIESIANIACAL 01:04, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

I understand. I do apologise for bothering you once more, but you may have noticed I am working on the SVG files of the royal standards of the UK on Commons, removing a lot of the flaws especially with the Scottish quarter which was poorly drawn. Once I am done with them, I would like to update Royal Standard of the United Kingdom, but I would like to list them according to rank. I have tried searching for a list of rank for the Royal Family but haven't had much luck. Would you suggest I use the order of succession? Fry1989 ^eh? 20:45, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Wouldn't one simply follow the order of precedence? --₪ MIESIANIACAL 14:35, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

Agreed. Thank you. Fry1989 ^eh? 15:53, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

Regarding Adrienne Louise Clarkson

I do not understand why your English source only include her Hakka side and not the other side. It's clearly stated like on her chinese wikipedia https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BC%8D%E5%86%B0%E6%9E%9D , baidu, hakka chinese article that only her maternal side is of Hakka ancestry not her paternal although she properly identifies as Hakka but she is still of mixed ancestry. So please do not remove her Taishanese ancestry just because the incredible lack of data on her exact ancestry on English sources. And if you ask any Hakka person they will tell you , her mother is hakka but not his father. It amazes me the amount of incorrect of data that English sources offer. You can easily ask the Hakka wikipedia users saying she is not of pure ( only maternally hakka ) ‎77.98.238.98 (talk) 20:02 ,21 Jully 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.238.98 (talk)

Chinese Wikipedia is not a source for English Wikipedia. Please see WP:RS. --₪ MIESIANIACAL 16:51, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

On the Chinese politics article, it refers only her other is Hakka http://www.wenshitiandi.com/html/87/3/3628/1.htm or on Sina http://history.sina.com.cn/bk/lszh/2015-03-23/1755117780.shtml, describing only her mother as Hakka. BASICALLY EVERY CHINESE SOURCE ONLY MENTIONS HER MOTHER BEING HAKKA, although she properly identifies as Hakka only her mother is Hakka so please unless you find me a source where it shows she is paternally Hakka aswell 77.98.238.98 (talk) 14:38, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Lieutenant Governor of Ontario article

Hi, just letting you know I reverted your edit here. The template is for the specific statement "The Lieutenant Governor of Ontario is […] tasked with carrying out most of the monarch's constitutional and ceremonial duties.", which isn't found in the citation which directly follows. Your edit summary said "see article body for role", but the "Role and presence" section doesn't actually mention the monarch, let alone state that the lieutenant-governor's duties are assigned to her. It's possible that this was mentioned before but was deleted, but if a citation can't be found it would be best to re-word the lede. ¡Bozzio! 14:00, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Perhaps you need to be more clear, as there's two points you seem to have issue with, but are challenging both with one tag.

The fact of the lieutenant governor undertaking constitutional duties in the monarch's name is supported by the already-provided citation (though citations aren't necessary in ledes). The fact of the lieutenant governor undertaking ceremonial duties in the monarch's name is supported in the 'Role and presence' section of the article. As already said, citations aren't required in ledes precisely because the lede is a summary of the article body, which itself should be reliably sourced. --₪ MIESIANIACAL 15:13, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

ANI

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. --Pete (talk) 13:02, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Royal Standards of Canada

Would you please explain why we shouldn't name who the Prince of Wales is? I do not understand the opposition. Fry1989 ^eh? 01:01, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

Basically, WP:NPOV. No one here, I suspect, is sure whether the banner is uniquely Charles', or it's that for not only the current Prince of Wales, but that of all successive princes of Wales, as well. The Register says it's the standard of the Prince of Wales, only; not that of Charles, Prince of Wales, or Prince Charles, Prince of Wales. --₪ MIESIANIACAL 16:24, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

Current reigning monarchs by length of reign

According to CNN, he has not yet ascended, which is specifically what the table is measuring. If you'd like to also put a note in there stating that he is the legal monarch (with a proper citation), though not yet ascended, that would be fine. McKay (talk) 16:44, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

I'm certain we shouldn't be following what mass media sources are saying; they tend to be notoriously inaccurate with the intricacies of monarchical legalities. --₪ MIESIANIACAL 22:27, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

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UrbanNerd IP socks SPI

Hi Miesianiacal, as a past commenter on previous SPIs involving UrbanNerd, just want to advise of the latest here. Hope all is well. Cheers, Hwy43 (talk) 03:52, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Minister of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship

Hi, according to the "about the minister" page on IRCC's website the correct title is "Minister of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship" (without the second comma). The PMO's website says the same. As a supporter of the Oxford comma I personally find it disappointing, but the official source has spoken. RA0808 ^talk_contribs 17:37, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

HM The Queen’s Diamond Jubilee Medal 2012

Hello Miesianiacal - thank you for producing File:QEII Diamond Jubilee Medal ribbon.png. I've no idea how you did it but it's very useful. I saw it at Johnson Beharry but I note is in use widely (over 100 pages). Trouble is, the colour's not quite right. I've seen various sources describe it as "red", but as you can see from photos here Queen Elizabeth II Diamond Jubilee Medal and the UK government website here and the Governor-General of Canada's website here, the true colour of the main ribbon in reality is more browny-red. Any chance you can fix? Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:12, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

Mac's categories

Hi User:Miesianiacal, do you know if the categories on Mac (It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia) are correct? The categories I'm confused about are:

• Category:Fictional drug dealers, on the show they say he did this in high school and presumably doesn't anymore
• Category:Fictional American people of Irish/Scottish descent, He's part owner of an Irish pub and a radical Roman Catholic, but his surname "McDonald" is Scottish in origin and found in both countries

Categories he might belong in:

• Category:Fictional bartenders, he part owns/runs a bar but doesn't serve behind the counter
• Category:Fictional preachers, he preaches his Catholic beliefs to everyone, but it's not a job
• Category:Fictional karateka, probably not, he pretends he knows it and does made-up karate moves often

Hope you can help, )--Theo Mandela (talk) 21:13, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

GG list

You wrote the following edit note: "an edit undoing an edit made four days earlier is not bold; the edit that changed years long status quo was / onus is on HP to gain consensus)" Please check the history since you've gotten things exactly backwards. You made the WP:BOLD edit 4 or 5 days ago that changed the status quo and I reverted it *to* the status quo therefore you are the one who needs to obtain consensus for the change you want to implement. I'll give you a few hours to revert your edit so that you can then try to achieve consensus for the change you are proposing. Hungarian Phrasebook (talk) 19:41, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Proposed addition to WP:BLP

Hi. I'd like to add a subsection to the WP:BLP page, and would like to solicit the opinions of editors who have been involved with it. Can you offer your thoughts here? Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 15:42, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

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Thanks for the catch on the photograph. I already listed it for deletion on Commons for the same reason, and was then just about to restore the old photograph when you beat me to it :-) Bearcat (talk) 19:59, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

No trouble. I figured the image'd be deleted eventually, so, why not just get rid of it now? --₪ MIESIANIACAL 21:12, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

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Please comment on Nazi aspects of King Edward VIII

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In the past, you were involved in a debate at King Edward VIII and another one has arisen. Recently, I added fully-cited content that discussed the Duke's pro-Nazi sympathies and actions. Another User (DrKay) has now deleted that content on at least three occasions. After he did so, I reinserted it, making changes that complied with criticisms he had made. All of the content I had added was fully cited: major newspapers, royal biographer, history books, etc.

Once again, he has deleted all of the content. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_VIII&action=history 17:30, 24 December 2017‎ DrKay (talk | contribs)‎ . . (82,472 bytes) (-8,193)‎

Not a single other User who has been involved with this article is willing to get involved, in spite of two Talk topics at the article. Perhaps they are worn out by the many previous edit disputes. I do not want to be accused of Edit Warring so, for now, I will not Revert the latest edit.

Basically the same situation is now also occurring at Edward VIII abdication crisis.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. Should I use the Wikipedia:Feedback request service? Thanks, Peter K Burian (talk) 18:18, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Battle Royal: Monarchists vs. Republicans and the Crown of Canada

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Cross of Valour (Canada) capitalization of monarchy in sidebar.

I was looking back at my contributions and I remembered you undid this, I was curious as to why? I believe it is more grammatically correct to have it capitalized in that situation. If the bar had Awarded by the monarchy of Canada in one line, that would be correct, but as it's positioned below the coat of arms, it makes Monarchy of Canada become a proper noun, I suppose. Either way, I'd suggest either making it all take one line, or capitalizing monarchy. Just wanted to message you to make sure you don't have any disagreements with it before I change it back, I'll wait a few days before changing it back if you don't respond, but let me know if it's fine with you, or if it's wrong let me know why, please.

P.S. Sorry if this isn't the proper space to bring this up, don't really contribute too often on wikipedia, and it felt weird bringing it up on the talk page for what I mentioned... Still does here, too, but I digress.

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Neo-Norman

Hi,

I wonder if you can explain the terms "neo-Norman" and "Norman Revival" in Canadian architecture?

Citadelle of Quebec#Royal and viceregal residence describes the residence as "a neo-Norman structure" (linking to Norman architecture), a description added by you in 2015; while 24 Sussex Drive is described as "The exterior of the house is a mid-century modern take on Norman Revival architecture" (this time linking to Romanesque Revival architecture), a description first added to the infobox by your previous account in 2008.

Neither description seems to be sourced, and I can't identify anything about either building that I would consider Norman, in the sense of the Norman architecture and Romanesque Revival architecture articles - neither has, for example, any round arches or castellated turrets that I can see. Nor can I find a description of either building as 'Norman' that is not plausibly sourced from our articles.

I did stumble across this article from Rough Guides, which says "Maison Maillou ... with its steeply slanting roof, displays the chief elements of the climate-adapted architecture brought over by the Norman settlers". This seems to suggest a very different possible meaning of "Norman" - architecture related to the 17th and 18th century architecture of Normandy, brought over by settlers from that region. I'm wondering if that is what is meant? But if so that could really do with clarifying. TSP (talk) 21:48, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

List of titles and honours of George VI - Unsourced content

Hi! I see that you have under your previous username contributed to the article named in the subject. What you wrote has since long been removed, however, I have some questions.

For, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_titles_and_honours_of_George_VI&diff=prev&oldid=250543052

Do you have a source for the last part of this contribution where you said George VI could “for a period in May 1929, George was also entitled to be called His Grace The Lord High Commissioner to the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland” ?

I would love to know if this was original research, sourced, or unsourced content, and how you possess knowledge of this?

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