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Sweet Track FAC

Thanks for your earlier comments at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Sweet Track/archive1. I believe the areas you identified have now been improved. I wondered if you would be able to take another look at Sweet Track and see if there are any other areas you feel need improvement?— Rod ^talk 15:36, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Kentlogo.png

Hi. I was wondering if you were aware that the Kentlogo.png file, the city seal for Kent, Ohio, was deleted after no further discussion was held on whether it was copyrighted or not. It was mainly that very issue that almost single-handedly stalled and ultimately derailed the FAC nomination and now I have to go re-upload it and go through this circus again. Any help would be appreciated since it was you who changed the status of it to public domain and trademarked after it was initially uploaded as a copyrighted logo with a valid rationale. --JonRidinger (talk) 18:23, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Follow up, it was restored as a copyrighted logo, so I'm not sure what you want to do with that. For now, since I'd say it's probably best to leave as is until it can be verified that it isn't copyrighted (I'm actually with you in that I don't think it is copyrighted, but I honestly don't know). --JonRidinger (talk) 19:13, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Hiya, sorry to get back to you a bit late. I don't know if you noticed but I also called Fastily out on deleting it at User talk:Fastily#File:Kentlogo.png. I'm still not satisfied. We were told to tag it as PD-text logo and discuss it at WP:PUF. As it says right there at the main page, "primary purpose of this page is to ascertain the source and/or copyright status of a file. Therefore it is not specifically a vote to keep or delete" (boldy also quoted), but because noone else discussed it it was deleted. Well, no, I think the image should have been tagged for deletion for it to actually get deleted. Restoring it back to Fair Use is probably the best thing to do right now, but I still think it should be discussed somewhere. Do you live in Kent? Might you be able to go to City Hall or someone and ascertain whether or not it is. Perhaps get their media relations department to email OTRS or something. I have little doubt in my mind that it isn't copyrighted, but I get that we need hard evidence. Matthewedwards :  Chat  22:29, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Do you know if the US Copyright Office has a searchable database online? Matthewedwards :  Chat  22:30, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

I did not see your reply to Fastily, though it may have simply been lost in the many other replies he got. Once the image was restored I didn't really check his user talk page beyond what showed up on my watchlist. To answer your question, I can email the city manager in Kent. I do live in Kent and see the seal everywhere which is why A) I felt it was necessary to keep in the article (thus giving it a rationale even when listed as copyrighted) and B) why I don't think it is copyrighted. It is never presented with any symbol indicating trademark or copyright whereas the Kent State University logos are always presented with some sort of trademark. I will find out and get back to you. Thanks for your efforts. --JonRidinger (talk) 22:39, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

I just went to the city's website, but there are no email addresses given for anybody working for the city. There are phone numbers, and I actually tried calling the City Manager and Law department, hoping that their secretaries might be able to give me their email addresses, but the offices are now closed for the weekend and you just get voicemails. Matthewedwards :  Chat  22:56, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

The city manager runs his own blog here and his e-mail is at the very bottom of the page. I will e-mail him tonight. I'm betting the offices closed around 5 PM EDT. --JonRidinger (talk) 23:13, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

OK. I found a page where you can email the city, at http://www.mygovhelp.com/KENTOH/_cs/Login.aspx so I emailed the Law department stating who we are, what we're trying to ascertain and why, and, if the City has been granted a copyright for the logo, whether they would be willing to grant us permission under a Creative Commons license. I used a mish-mash of the examples at Wikipedia:Example requests for permission. Hopefully one of us will get a reply back. :) Matthewedwards :  Chat  23:34, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Mother and Child Reunion (Degrassi: The Next Generation)

My apologies for editing an article I didn't actually read. I added the U.S. dates because they were on other episodes, and I had read Degrassi: The Next Generation (season 1)#Episodes, so I assumed that the article discussed how The N didn't air season 1 in order. Shouldn't it mention that this episode, which was intended as the premiere, aired as the season finale, and caused continuity problems? 117Avenue (talk) 22:40, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Well, I wrote the article with the intention to keep it Canada-centric rather than focus on the intricate details of how it was broadcast in the US, unlike the article for season 1 which gives equal weight. That discusses how The N aired the season out of order, but because Mother & Child Reunion is focused on that one episode I didn't bother mentioning it. It's up to you, really. I'm not saying don't, just that it's my preference to keep things specific to the episode on the episode article and things related to the overall season at the season page. Best, Matthewedwards :  Chat  14:32, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm sure how important the matter is, maybe its nothing. I just know for Accidents Will Happen, the air dates are part of the story, saying how controversial it was. 117Avenue (talk) 16:48, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

MOS:DISCOG

• Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 August 8#MOS:DISCOG

Hi. I've listed this at WP:RfD because I feel the prefix is inappropriate. This is not part of the WP:MOS. I'll let the wikiproject know, too. Cheers, Jack Merridew 00:05, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Okay Matthewedwards :  Chat  21:52, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

List of Saw media

Hello. I have gone through and changed the entire List of Saw media article according to your issues on it's FLC page and I hope you will review my changes and support it's FLC. The only things I did not change were:

• I kept a Bloody-disgusting reference (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/18838)
• I kept a Horror-Movies reference (http://www.horror-movies.ca/horror_17120.html)
• I kept an Amazon reference (http://www.amazon.com/Saw-Cary-Elwes/dp/B0006SSOHC)
• I have not yet changed the image, but that is negotiable if you'd like
• The visual complaints you had (italicising "Merchandise", blue line in the music albums, and the length on the music albums) cannot be changed due to the template being used, sorry
• Region and console release for the video games, but I don't think that's what you were trying to change, was it?

I have given reasons for all of these inclusions on the FLC page I simply wanted to give you a list for convenience. Let me know what you think. GroundZ3R0 002 05:31, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

I'll look later when I'm on a different computer. Matthewedwards :  Chat  21:50, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

The nomination has been closed and is waiting for the bot to template it. I'll be happy to go over the article again and answer any questions/responses to mine if you decide to open a Peer Review, and I'll refrain from the sarcasm, too. :) Matthewedwards :  Chat  23:15, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Reviewer on Wikinews

I promoted you to Reviewer today. Have fun reviewing and publishing. :) —Mikemoral♪♫ 05:43, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

That was quick! Thank you :) Matthewedwards :  Chat  21:53, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Glee FLC

First, thanks from both of us for taking the time to offer some suggestions to improve the article even more. =)

Second, we have addressed some of your concerns already and still have others left to look at. There were a few separate comments related to some of the points, such as the removal of a column in the episode table and the addition of UTC to the article. Can you please check the page at present and confirm which changes or other comments satisfy your suggestions (strikethru the finished ones basically)? Cheers. CycloneGU (talk) 19:30, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

I know I don't have to speak for her, but Frickative responded to you. My own comment is added too, but I should point out that Glee has been picked up for a third season already. The question now becomes just how to handle the different articles; one might be able to go, though I'm not sure which, but most need to stay. I'm discussing with Frickative on MSN ATM (better than filling a talk page in a way) about whether to get rid of transclusion. CycloneGU (talk) 00:48, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

FLC Update

Hey, I created a section on the FLC page where I put some of the comments that Frickative and I resolved immediately or shortly after. Frickative made some changes I completely was not aware of, and I found out while on MSN yesterday about them! *LOL* Can you check some of your comments not yet marked as resolved and add them to that collapsible section if they are resolved? Short of this, I can do a run-through and do this myself based on "fixed" comments and such, but since they're your concerns, I think it better if you do that. If you then are satisfied, feel free to change the "Oppose" above that section to "Support". =)

Also, other than you and Peregrine Fisher (who hasn't specified either way other than saying it's good to run for FLC), no one else has reviewed yet. I'm going to attempt to get some additional opinions from people who have been involved in other FLCs as well (whether pass or fail). CycloneGU (talk) 14:58, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

OK, I'll take a look now. I've been away for a couple of days. Matthewedwards :  Chat  17:07, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I probably won't comment there until tomorrow. Let me look through the article thoroughly, and I'll get back to you. Matthewedwards :  Chat  17:24, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Here we go again

A question has arisen on the 2nd Kent, Ohio FAC regarding the copyright status of File:Kent city wards streets.png, in particular, the original map I used to create the current file. I contend it is at least a derivative work but doubt that the original map is copyrighted anyway. Any additional insights would be appreciated. Thanks as always for your time. --JonRidinger (talk) 21:27, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2010 August newsletter

We have our final eight! The best of luck to those who remain. A bumper newsletter this week as we start our home straight.

• Pool A's winner was Sturmvogel_66 (submissions). Awarded the top score overall this round, Sturmvogel_66 writes primarily on military history, favouring Naval warfare.
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