User talk:Marudubshinki/Archive 43

Customizing my four tildes

How do I do it so that I can have other stuff (eg a link to my talk or contribs) show when I quad-tilde? Thanks! --DNL 16:38, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sign_your_posts_on_talk_pages#Customizing_your_signature but you has one already!? auto signing --> -- Olliminatore 17:16, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

auto signing

How has it well-tried? Thx for testing ;). What do you think about an (exception-) list of pages, other than talks (e.g. Requests_for_adminship, Feature requests...). If indorse, you can make me a list!? --Olliminatore 14:56, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I can't say I've ever noticed it working. --maru (talk) contribs 17:01, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Very good, I've added this (3) sites as exceptions (regarded pages): ':Village pump', ':Articles for deletion', ':Requests for adminship'. -- Olliminatore 19:51, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, I'll tell you if I ever see it working under Blue Cologne. --maru (talk) contribs 20:14, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Oh: I see your contretemps; please try to put my script befor Lupin's popups.js on top of yours. Because if any fault to any other function/ scripts occur, then it didn't reach my script. But after Cacycle's editor.js, because it delete the wpSave.event (then it didn't work for me too). In the next version I'll also use/ bind the preview button for control. -- Olliminatore 23:40, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

OK, let this be my first shot at this suggested arrangement.

Well, Lupin's popups are loading and working, suggesting that the entire .js loaded without error, but... no prompting for a sig. Drat. --maru (talk) contribs 00:40, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

I post now with your script and it works!?! (not minoredit, new version 1.43 with preview) -- Olliminatore 14:33, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Then I shall try posting. Well, I've pasted it in to be sure... Well, I've pasted it in, before Lupin's tool but after Cacyle's tool, and nada. --maru (talk) contribs 17:54, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Incidentally, the syntax highlighting is working for me. Pretty neat! --maru (talk) contribs 17:57, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Search box page protection

It currently contains code that is directly copied into users' javascript pages, so it needs to be fully protected. However, I do see your point, and I'll try to work something out. --Zocky | picture popups 01:20, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, but those are just import statements, and such. Lupin appears to get along fine with semi- or no protection, and it's not like you aren't watching the page. --maru (talk) contribs 01:22, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm not watching the page that closely - I'm sometimes off for weeks - and if Lupin does that, he probably shouldn't. There's a good reason that javascript pages are fully protected by default. A malicious user could cause unsuspecting users to make malicious edits, or even run an exploit of newly found weaknesses in browsers. I'll move the javascript code to a separate page and unprotect this one. Zocky | picture popups 01:35, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

That's good. There's no reason the documentation needs to be protected, but I can see why you'd want the actual code protected. --maru (talk) contribs 01:36, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Reminder + Suggestion

When using template tags on talk pages, don't forget to substitute with text by adding subst: to the template tag. For example, use {{subst:test}} instead of {{test}}. This reduces server load and prevents accidental blanking of the template.

Important: This talk page is becoming very long. Please consider archiving.

— Ian Manka Talk to me‼ 02:35, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

I generally archive at around 100 sections, so it is not time to archive, and I don't find the benefits to the server of subst:'ing test templates compelling enough to outweigh the cost to the users. Server time is not valuable; user time is. --maru (talk) contribs 03:48, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of myg0t

Under what criterion does this article apply? It certainly isn't G4 as it was restored after a DRV in early April "#Myg0t overturned and undeleted. 21:20, 4 April 2006 (UTC)" and I do not know of any AFDs (besides the latest one) after that. --Kotepho 18:08, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

I deleted it because it should be deleted, and has been deleted something like 17 times. ~15 admins can't all be wrong. --maru (talk) contribs 19:42, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Than make your argument on the AFD, don't speedy it. Something being deleted multiple times for not being a proper article does not make the proper article deletable. --Kotepho 19:53, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

There've been enough AFDs. At some point, they have to stop. And I disagree with your characterization of them. --maru (talk) contribs 20:04, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Fine. Listed on WP:DRV. Kotepho 20:28, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Myo-starwars.jpg

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This is absurd. It was appropriately tagged. OrphanBot's gone too far this time. --maru (talk) contribs 01:58, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

WP:ER

Hi. Would you be interested in commenting here...? Critisim, be it positive or negative, would be lovely. -Zero^Talk 19:17, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

I've commented, though you may not like what I say. --maru (talk) contribs 19:38, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm aware. I've replied myself. -Zero^Talk 19:40, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Well I blew it did I not..? I'm not sure if I should even make another attempt for adminship. What do you think..? --Zero^Talk 07:28, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Your past self certainly did... I wouldn't go up anytime soon. Keep your nose clean for three months, and who knows, though. Not enough admins work in your areas as it is. --maru (talk) contribs 18:49, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Stanford Sierra Camp cleanup and notability issues

Hello Marudubshinki,2

I was wondering about why you put your comment on the Stanford Sierra Camp page and what I need to do to fix it. Please respond on my talk page. Thanks. --ForestH2

In short, the article as it stands reads too much like an advertisement/how-to, and doesn't say just why SSC is such a standout from all the other thousands of summer camps and merits an article. --maru (talk) contribs 02:22, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

O.K. I get what you mean. Is there any thing you really think we should delete? Do you think adding like (more than this) SSC is one of the best summer camps around because it is easy to get into and one of the most beautiful across the country" Let me know. --ForestH2

Rewrite the "Two's" section to read more like an encyclopedia article, merge Weather into a general description of the area, When To Come should be in intro or general description and Two's could be much more "Factually" rather than "descriptive"ly written, and you definitely should have references for subjective stuff like beauty and best summer camp around. --maru (talk) contribs 02:27, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

I did some cleanup. Let me put what you think into the page. --ForestH2

Looks slightly better, but I'm not optimistic about its long-term chances. I think most editors would consider a day camp with no especially unique attributes non-notable. --maru (talk) contribs 02:31, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

See how it looks now. --ForestH2

The tone's better, but it needs linking, notability assertions, references, etc. --maru (talk) contribs 02:37, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

It's a very unusual place and I don't think there'd be much about it. However there is a main page and I'll goggle it later to see about any other articles. Forest

I found some info googling it. It doesn't really cite sources but I'm going to add them to the page. --Forest

Take a look at the external links. For some reason when ever I clicked save page I couldn't get them up as references. By the way, I sometimes sign as Into the Wilderness or just Forest and sometimes ForestH2. --Into the Wilderness

Tell me what you think now. --Forest

Too many sections, not linked enough to other articles, and you still haven't established notability, unfortunately. --maru (talk) contribs 17:08, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

I'll work on it later...Don't nominate it for deletion until I've done as much as possible. Notability? explain further. And can't an article have as much sections as needed? --Forest

I don't intend to AFD it. Too much trouble, and it doesn't really bother me. As for notability, see our guidelines on that. As for sections- they break up the text and it just doesn't flow well. --maru (talk) contribs 22:05, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Image:180px-Royal guard.jpg listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded, Image:180px-Royal guard.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you.

cholmes75 16:56, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Your bot: editing archives

Hi! Just like to let you know your bot is editing archives. While I'm sure many wouldn't have a problem with it... I'd rather it didn't edit the archive in my user space. I reverted the change... and it's really not a big deal since no meaning was changed. Just though I'd let you know how I felt about it. --J.S (t|c) 23:46, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Oh. Sorry about that. I didn't see any notice that you didn't want any links disambiguated in your archives when I was driving the bot, but I'll try to keep my eye peeled. Feel free to revert any other noisome changes. --maru (talk) contribs 03:37, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Is there a tag I can put up to avoid this in the future? --J.S (t|c) 21:32, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, there's always full protection... But seriously, the only anti-bot things I've seen were little comments saying "Don't disambiguate this!" inserted just before or after the relevant link. --maru (talk) contribs 00:08, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Apache Harmony comment

Hi, I've placed your embedded comment question from the Apache Harmony article onto its talk page instead. I hope you don't mind. -- Remy Suen 20:28, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Not really. I didn't think it was major enough to start a section on the talk page, but if you do, it's no skin off my nose. --maru (talk) contribs 00:06, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Your Bot-maru is editing other people's comments

Your bot is editing other people's comments ([1], [2]), and even changing a talk page archive ([3]). Please avoid doing this. --cesarb 02:35, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

The archive example is just me fixing Acetic Acid's screwup with his welcoming template. --maru (talk) contribs 04:21, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Fullmetal Alchemist episodes

Care to comment? --Cat out 15:03, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Done. --maru (talk) contribs 17:45, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm going to place List of Mega Man weapons up for its third nomination soon. Will you support the promotion of this article to FL status...? --Zero^Talk 17:52, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I wouldn't vote against it, if you know what I mean. Elements of the text could be sourced better, and the prose is awkward in places, but nothing horrid enough to motivate me to oppose. --maru (talk) contribs 00:21, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

• That's quite vague. Could you post your concerns on the talkpage in a more elaborate format so everyone can see them and I can more easily address them..? And if its in the realm of assessibility, it would be great if you could edit the article and ammend what you think needs work. --Zero^Talk 14:31, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

To be more specific, it isn't so bad that I feel I need to make my opinions known, nor do I feel energetic enough to get involved in yet another thing. I have enough on my plate right now that I don't mind leaving this to the FL regulars. --maru (talk) contribs 04:08, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

FYI

I've issued a strongly worded warning to Moby Dick about stalking [4]. This is grounded in remedy 2 of your arbitration case (about harassment by Davenbelle, Stereotek and Fadix). --Tony Sidaway 16:53, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!

I am curious though if it would be possible to take a few precautions.

• I'd like to make sure Moby Dick has no "other" sockpuppets lurking around me. If he had like 10 accounts it would be very hard for me to gather any reliable evidence.
• Possibly keeping logs that make a checkuser possible longer than a month if Moby Dick decides to stalk from a different alias. These logs can be kept on wikimedia servers away from public reach.

--Cat out 17:42, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

That last would require both a policy and a technical change; it might be nice, but it's unlikely. A number of editors (like myself) are happy to know that if they choose to leave for more than a week (or whatever it takes for Recentchanges to expire here on en) that their IPs will be forgotten. --maru (talk) contribs 18:52, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Recentchanges/IP data expire in a month. I just want the log of Moby Dick to stay longer making it easier to identify his sockpuppets if they appear. It would have been a great help if we had the logs for davenbelle to compare with Moby Dick.

As for the sockpuppet check, do you think you can get someone to look into it?

--Cat out 07:09, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Really? A month? I have to say, I'm kinda surprised. A months' worth of RC must take up an enormous amount of space. But I guess even that wasn't long enough to correlate davenbelle and Moby Dick.

As for Checkusering, there's not much I can do besides point you to the Checkuser request pages. But I'll ask Essjay personally the next time I see him on IRC whether he can run a Checkuser for you, if at all possible. --maru (talk) contribs 04:28, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Unauthorized Bot

Hello, it seems that you are running a bot called User:Bot-maru, without any authorization to do so. Please seek approval from WP:BRFA before continuing. Thank you. --lightdarkness ^(talk) 17:19, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

FYI, I blocked the bot until its problems can be fixed. It now appears there is substantial consensus that it should not edit talk pages, so please don't unblock until you rewrite it to avoid them. (You should also, obviously, deal with the authorization issues as above, but I don't know much about those.) -- SCZenz 17:59, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I sort of noticed the block when all my programs began failing mysteriously. --maru (talk) contribs 18:17, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Confused about odd redirect

What is this redir for: MediaWiki:VfD-List of computer games featuring exploding sheep? —xaosflux ^Talk 04:22, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I was following a link on the Weird-but-good-articles page to List of computer games featuring exploding sheep; it had been up for deletion at some point, and on its talk page, someone had linked to that weird link (I don't know whether it's a relic of the old namespaces for deletion and VFD in particular or just a weird spaz out by the author). Anyway, I had just been at the AFD, so I killed a redlink. --maru (talk) contribs 04:24, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I fixed the redlink at Talk:Exploding sheep and killed the dobule redirect, and the MediaWiki page entry. Looks like a bad template was subst'd in there. —xaosflux ^Talk 03:33, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

I make redirects- I don't scrap them. But I wouldn't know about AFD templates; I usually avoid the place. The templates make it too damn difficult a place to work in, and none of the AFD helper scripts seem to work with the blue-cologne skin. --maru (talk) contribs 04:16, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Re: Your corrections to one of my subpages

Hey, I'm just leaving a note to say thank you for your wikification of links on my "Things I Like" subpage, and for your notification of the dead link therein. As for the thing about Kisokaido/Tokkaido: yes, I am sure that it's Kisokaido (or Kiso Kaido if you prefer—Kiso Kaido Rokujuku Tsugi), and it's definitely not from the Tokkaido road series. Anyhow, thanks again; I appreciate it. —Saposcat 06:35, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

No problem. (Well, if you're sure: I knew of The Sixty-nine stages of the Kiso Kaido (not, strictly speaking, entirely Hiroshige's work), but it's just that one sees it mentioned orders of magnitude less than the Tokkaido road series, and it seemed more likely to me to be a mistake.) --maru (talk) contribs 06:41, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

myg0t mediation

We respectively ask for mediation in regards to your violation of the speedy deletion policy. --OverlordQ 12:01, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

No thanks. I don't know who you want to mediate, what you want to mediate, and I don't think I violated the speedy delete policy (there's a clause for non-notable groups). --maru (talk) contribs 18:48, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

I disagree, why speedy delete an article that has been undeleted and often edited? pff..--Andeee 15:29, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I disagree. Might as well ask why I speedy deleted an article that was speedy deleted often? --maru (talk) contribs 17:52, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

myg0t are absolutely notable. --85.255.33.130 09:42, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

No, it isn't. And stop changing your posts to look like they are coming from Ifrit. --maru (talk) contribs 18:17, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

More information for Elfsar Comics & Toys

Here is some more information as to why this store is notable:

Elfsar Comics and Toys notably have one of the largest Graphic Novel selections in Canada.

Elfsar Comics and Toys provide the City of Vancouver with over $300.00 worth of reading material each and every month for low income families. Contact: City of Vancouver for verification.

In 2004 Elfsar provided the Ronald McDonald House British Columbia with over $1,600.00 in Donations from it's fundraiser for the first ever International [24 Hour Comic Day http://www.24hourcomics.com/].(where artists and writers gathered together and created 24 page comics in a 24 hour period.

They are an active supporter of local and independent comic book companies/creators and host a number of Comic Creator signings throughout the year. Rosencrantz Comics Signing CSI Miami Signing Arbitrators Signing Neil Gaiman Signing Arcana Studio Signing Huge Creator Signing

Elfsar has been a proud supporter of Free Comic Book Day since it's inception by Joe Field, owner of Flying Colors Comics. On May 6th, 2006 Elfsar Comics and Toys gave away over 7,000 comics from over 40 different titles to the general public during it's participation of Free Comic Book Day. Both Creator Signings and Gamming Tournaments were notable at this event. FCBD at Elfsar

Jay Bardyla Owner of Happy Harbor which is Elfsar Comic & Toy's Sister Store in Edmonton, Alberta received an Honorable Mention for the Joe Shuster Award for Most Outstanding Canadian Comic Retailer for 2006.

If you need more information please contact: Ethan Peacock Owner of Elfsar Collection LTD. (64.46.12.126 07:05, 25 May 2006 (UTC))

Donald Brown - Eamon Creator

Hi Marudubshinki, The Wikipedia.org article "Eamon (computer game)" was already created and contained a link to the author's name, the article for the author however, had not been created. That's what I was trying to do.

When you say "Eamon strikes me as not important enough to merit an article for its creator". How are you deciding that? This is an old game system but age doesn't seem to be a factor of importance for Wikipedia. It was based on the Apple II but that also was pretty important in its time. The Eamon system was not produced commercially, but that was the whole point. The author created a good game system that was open ended and put it in the public domain. If you read the Wikipedia.org article "Eamon (computer game)" you will see that it had a fairly large following and that Donald's original creation had a ripple effect that involved quite a few other people.

By the way, its hard to tell when you write something how others will respond to it. I just want you to know that I am writing this to you intending full respect to you. I'm hoping that you will reconsider and create the article. Thank you for your time. Ted.

When I, or most any other person write anything on AFC, declining to create an article, we're just saying that this particular editor whom we happen to be doesn't think it is worth creating an article on. Now, if someone created a half-way decent Eamon article, and it went up on AFD, I would lay better than even odds it wouldn't be deleted, that enough of my fellow editors would find it notable enough under their criterion. You should feel free to start it yourself, or try another editor- I simply don't feel like creating it. --maru (talk) contribs 00:53, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Imagawa Sadayo

Nice edit on my article. I've been searching for as much information on him that I could find, and have added your references to my ever-growing "to-buy" list! —Preceding unsigned comment added by AngusH (talk • contribs)

You're quite welcome! Consider it repayment for creating the bulk of the article for me. :) --maru (talk) contribs 04:46, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Request for deletion....

Sorry to bug you, since you are an admin. will you delete my userpage? --Mahogany

I don't know why you wanted it deleted, but I've done so. --maru (talk) contribs 18:27, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks; just had some junk that I really didn't want people to know. (Like you know how once upon a time my account was hacked). --Mahogany

Ah, I see. Ha ha ha- good times, good times? --maru (talk) contribs 06:13, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Cleaning up List of Pokémon characters

Can you hit this with your bot, to clean up dabs and redirects? It's just too much to do by hand at this point. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 06:48, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Cleaning up redirects related to lists isn't a particularly good idea, but I'll see what I can do vis-avis disambiguation. The problem is, so far as I know, Pywikipedi's solve-disambiguation script is kinda one-way; that is, one starts with a disambig page and fixes whatever links to it, rather than start with a random page, and fix whatever links in it point to a disambig page. I might be able to compile a list by hand and just do all those disambigs (which would help out other pages as well). --maru (talk) contribs 06:59, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Alright, I used the extract_wikilinks.py script to get a list of linked articles, and y'know what? There don't seem to be much if at all in the way of links to disambiguations- just a metric ton of duplicated links and redirects, and those are things the bots are not set up to do, and I don't know enough about Python to make them so set up. Sorry. --maru (talk) contribs 06:18, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Nice job, re: myg0t

Nice job deleting the myg0t wiki because you just don't like myg0t. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.154.132.227 (talk • contribs)

Thank you. I'm always glad to rid Wikipedia of crap and crap about asshats. --maru (talk) contribs 21:05, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Wow your really a great unbiased admin, deleting legitimate articles because you just don't like their subject.

How in go'ds name did you become an admin when you can allow yourself openly admit you deleted the article because you don't like the group? How did other admins nominate a person? This is really sad, Wikipedia is supposed to be changed by discussion, not by feeling-based rash action.

"State your point; don't prove it experimentally"

As an admin you should really abide by this statement, if you don't like the "asshats" of the myg0t community you can express this in its proper forum, deleting the article without discussion just shows that you should never have been trusted with admin rights.

There are some cases in which bold action must be taken; such actions are the reason admins are given such latitude. This is just such a case. --maru (talk) contribs 06:32, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

About myg0t

Please, revert your removal. If you're biased, and if you have a little angst to write, then do it into the kitchen trash bin, because admin rights are NOT FOR SUCH. Thank you. And also, please, admit it: you did against admin policies. So please, asking on behalf of nearly every wikipedia, revert your removal of a legitimate article. You also contradicted yourself: "anti-censorship". You always have the right for your own opinion, but if you don't like something then abuse your rights in order to remove it, you CENSOR. So much for internet withou censorship... I would not let you wear any of those userboxes/tags if I would have the if I would have the power to after this...

It's not a legitimate article, and it is not against policy. And as far as the tags/userboxes go, just because I believe in free speech doesn't automatically mean there must be no editorial control of Wikipedia! Wikipedia is not a place for articles on anything and everything.

EDIT: I just read through your arguments on the talk page from sections I didn't notice before. 1. Myg0t is notable, this is nothing that you can argue, and is plain stupid to say they are not... 2. Even if an article has been deleted, raped, AFD'd how many times, the version that you deleted was a factual, POV, and a good article (which wasn't seen there before with mostly vandalizing). I finally thought that "people have come to their mind". Which has nothing to do with its history, you do know? It's about the material. For example, if a user keeps vandalizing, and then becomes "clean", does it mean that he has less chances of becoming an admin? No. Besides, I will have to remind you: the only reason the article was previously deleted was because it hadn't established a decent article. As opposed to the one you removed. Really pisses me and many other users off. Come on. "Ass hats?" Why don't you go and also delete articles about jihadists, fascism, nazism, GNAA, and such, because they are "mean" and "assholes", in [your] opinion? I can't comprehend how your mind works. Report this issue to some board or committee or review or whatever... --194.251.240.114 20:04, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Why is it stupid to say they are not notable? They been passingly and unimportantly mentioned in two or three places (as compared to GNAA, which is mentioned in among other things, the Scotsman and G4TV or whatever that tech channel is), as minor parts of minor events. And by its very Internety and ephemeral nature, that article wasn't particularly factual. And you are wrong about reformed vandals- that's the kiss of death, so to speak. Off-hand, I can't think of a single admin out of the eight or 900 admins who is a reformed vandal. --maru (talk) contribs 06:40, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Super Dimension Fortress criticism section

I know that you are on the other side for keeping the controversy section in, but I removed the criticism. It's been two months of edit warring over a minor issue, and you did not make any comments on the talk page in your reversions and semiprotection. I respect your status as an admin, but I completely disagree with your involvement and use of protection privileges without engaging in the discussion. Teke 20:15, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your responses on the subject. I edited the controversy to just Some former users have criticized the administration of SDF as high-handed, accusing them of removing accounts, erasing files, defaced their webpages, and deleted bulletin board postings of those critical of SDF's policies and its administration. I can live with that, I hope everyone else can so we can have peace on our watchlists. Teke 01:55, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

As I've said on the talk page, with the addition of the link, I'm happy. If only all disputes could be resolved so easily. I just hope the anon I semi-protected against will be content with this compromise as well. --maru (talk) contribs 04:25, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I think the protection placed by Tony Sidaway can be removed. If the 192.__.__.__ address keeps returning it'll just be reversions now; at least the edit war is over. I appreciate the civility all around in discussion. Teke 18:38, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Huh, you beat me to it by 3 hours, I see. My page musta been cached. Thanks for watching it. Teke 02:57, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

I really do pay attention to my talk page, even if I'm busy with other matters. --maru (talk) contribs 06:11, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Spiral: Suiri no Kizuna

Feel free to remove the tag from Spiral: Suiri no Kizuna if you so desire. The tag was applied because the core of the article — namely the subsections entitled Blade Children and Characters — had only one word which was wikified. Of course, it's not do or die, but it immediately struck me that more than half the content of the entry was unwikified.

TTFN. --Folajimi 01:26, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

That seems reasonable. I'll leave it alone then. --maru (talk) contribs 06:10, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Fullmetal Alchemist episodes

I was wondering if you could re-review the page. We have tried to address your concerns. Did we meet your criteria? :) --Cat out 15:22, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Almost. I've modified my vote. --maru (talk) contribs 06:08, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Speedy deletions of articles with only external links

Will do, I'm already going back through all of them and inserting text. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pbwinter (talk • contribs)

Alright then. Hope you didn't lose anything. --maru (talk) contribs 17:54, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Copyrighted Material

Hi there,

I need a bit of help. I work here at the USC Center on Public Diplomacy and am trying to post our information on Wikipedia and link it back to our site. I am getting the copyright infringement notices and need to know how to fix that. I assure you I have full rights, but let me know how to verify that with you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pbwinter (talk • contribs)

It won't be too easy, because anyone who reads the USC Center will immediately begin wondering how you could be in a position to legally license that information under the GFDL. Usually such permission must come either directly or indirectly from the head of the institution (at least someone legally representing them), or the person who originally wrote the articles in question (and that's assuming that they have not forfeited the copyright to their work as part of their employent terms, as I understand is the usual practice), and so far as we know you meet none of those conditions. --maru (talk) contribs 18:31, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Your bot edits - category move

Just wanted to let you know that on the article Aimini P2P your bot moved the AfD category from within the AfD tag to the bottom of the article [5] --AbsolutDan ^(talk) 19:02, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

That's rather odd. I suspect a bug, but only one example doesn't give me much to go on. --maru (talk) contribs 19:36, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Clean-up on Kyo Kusanagi

Please see here. And if you have a response, please post it on the talkpage. -Zero^Talk 16:40, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

I see it. Looks fine to me. --maru (talk) contribs 04:09, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Star Wars Bounty - time to pay up!

Hey, FYI, you put up a bounty for any Star-Wars related article. I just wanted to bring to your attention that Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith is now a featured article. You might want to pay your $10, and update the Bounty Board page to reflect this.

All the best, – Quadell ^{(talk) (bounties)} 16:11, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Argg, you blood suckers! The donation is in. --maru (talk) contribs 04:08, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Harry's Place

I see the Harry's Place entry was reposted after you deleted it. Harry's Place is a hate site similar to David Duke's site and never should have been reposted after it was agreed it be deleted.

I am not wikipedia process literate and do no know how to stop these guys ignoring the delete decision - can you? They are an outrage. --88.101.187.61 08:11, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

It is a little annoying that it was reposted when such things are supposed to be handled by DRV, but it's a lot better than it was before, and it does have references and notability claims, so I can't simply speedy it. Looks like another AFD is in order. --maru (talk) contribs 18:19, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Please do. It is true that I have strong opinions on the subject of this entry's suitability in wikipedia but for me that is not the main issue.

It is the underhand and arrogant manner in which the page was resurrected and the dismissive attitude to those who highlighted the issue.

Also the reason given for resurrecting the entry was Harry's Place's notability due to its high traffic.

When it was pointed out that the authors had totally misunderstood the traffic measure - and in fact the exact opposite was true - that Harry's Place had very low traffic - they simply discarded that reason and came up with another, harder to prove reason.

This is disrespectful of the process and I suspect they are motivated by reasons that are not constructive to wikipedia in general.

i dont agree

i think he is overated and weak.... he never proved to be a strong jedi, after all he was converted to the dark side, how original. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jimmy barnes (talk • contribs)

No idea what you are talking about. --maru (talk) contribs 18:17, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Arthur Fry

Hey! I've started working on an expansion of the Arthur Fry article. Looking back through the short history, I saw that you are the one who started it, so I thought I'd drop you a line and let you know. My additions need some serious polishing, but I'd love it if you could find the time to take a peek. Further editing or some input would be very much appreciated—I'm pretty sure I made some dumb newbie flubs. :D Thanks for your time! —PaperTruths (Talk) 10:21, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Looks pretty good. Honestly, I only know what I was provided on AFC, so my ability to correct is limited. --maru (talk) contribs 18:20, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Why did you revert in General Grievous?

Why did you revert these changes to General Grievous? I'm just checking if it was a mistake or if there was a problem I didn't see. --Tim ^{(talk), (contribs)} 16:20, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

""The great warrior... is a kid."" --maru (talk) contribs 16:22, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Every Shade of Blue

You created an article on this Banarama song from Articles for Creation. It has been nominated for Articles for deletion. I would vote to merge with the relevant album except we don't appear to have an article on it. --Capitalistroadster 03:37, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Commented on the AFD. --maru (talk) contribs 03:51, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

SW template formatting advice

Nope, I didn't. Thanks for the advice. Redd Dragon 23:27, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. (I was getting tired of fixing them, and I didn't really feel by siccing my bot on your edits). --maru (talk) contribs 23:31, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

State redirect errors

Some of your new redirects aren't working, I think because instead of ASCII character's you're pulling the urls'? Which have combinations of characters instead of the actual character. Sorry, I can never figure out how to say this, but basically instead of it being (Arizona) it's %28Arizone%28, or something like that, which makes the redirect not work. --Mak (talk) 04:34, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Damn. I was afraid of this: I'm using the us-states.py pywikipediabot script for these, and I've already run into Unicode bugs (but at least those only crash the bot!); I guess I'll have to go back through my contribs and manually fix these. :( Oh well. How many could there be? --maru (talk) contribs 04:36, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I was wondering if you were using something bot-ish. I've run into this problem before while NewPages patrolling. Too bad :( Good luck though :) Mak (talk) 04:40, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi! Please stop creating new redirects, they doesn't work :/ (See your most recent edits and the "New pages" log [6]). Neurillon 05:10, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Running without a bot flag

Please stop making mass automated edits. You're violating WP:BOT in a big way. You should not run any large-scale automated process without asking at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approvals, and if you don't have a bot flag, you need to get one if you want to edit more than once or twice a minute. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 04:50, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Simetrical requested I block your bot because it was running too fast, so I've gone ahead and issued a 1 hour block until you two sort it out. Unblock yourself as you please, but please refrain from using the bot until you guys figure it all out. Raul654 05:17, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Several problems here, to clarify:

1. You're running a large-scale automated process without approval. This is bad. Bots need approval from WP:RFBA before they're run, or they're (supposed to be) blocked. (You could probably get approval easily enough for this.)
2. You're running it off your own account. Generally bots should be run off a separate account name, so they can be easily distinguished, don't mess up edit counts, and can be blocked separately.
3. You're running it way too fast. Bots without a bot flag are generally limited to about two edits per minute so that they don't clog up recent changes. (This isn't a fake issue; see WP:VPA#Vast numbers of edits by Marudubshinki making RC patrol impossible.) Flagged bots (which don't show up on recent changes) are allowed to run at about six edits per minute, maybe somewhat more, to avoid server load.
4. It's screwing up. A number of the redirects it creates are invalid and aren't treated as redirects. Therefore, they a) don't work and b) show up on Special:Newpages (which was taken up mostly by your bot's mistakes until you were blocked). Of course, it's all reversible.

WP:BOT is official policy, formed by general consensus and for good reasons. This case, I'm afraid, is pretty much exactly the reason the policy was instituted. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 05:28, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

I couldn't give a shit about you running a bot, but because its redirects aren't unicodified, they don't work as redirects, so the software doesn't realize they're redirects and put them in Special:Newpages, making it virtually unreadable and unpatrollable, it's probably best if you don't run it until that's fixed. --Rory096 05:31, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Also, they should probably be tagged with {{Redir from US postal ab}} --Rory096 05:50, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

I've blocked you until you can come back to the computer, so you can stop the bot and unblock yourself then.

05:49, June 5, 2006 Mike Halterman blocked "Marudubshinki (contribs)" with an expiry time of indefinite (Simetrical brought to my attention in IRC that your unapproved bot is making newpages unreadable. Unblock yourself when you come back to the computer. Thanks! :)) Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 05:51, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

The form being used (with the state abbreviation all caps) makes it so a user entering the name and hitting "go" must enter it in an exact case match. You might want to consider using initial capital only for the redirect if the primary point is "go" navigation rather than inter-article links (links are always case sensitive). -- Rick Block (talk) 13:32, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I've unblocked myself, and I'll try to address everyone's concerns.

1. For future reference, the indefinite block was a bit too long. I don't know of any bots that don't time out within a few hours, so 24 hours would've done the trick.
2. I know about the bot regulations, and I have a bot account which is waiting for approval; however, I've grown impatient (I've been waiting for something like 2 weeks now), and started using my main account for things like disambiguation and category moving which I'd been holding off on, waiting for approval. I probably shouldn't have opened that door to temptation, but I've never been particularly patient.
3. Similarly, I've put in bug reports for the erroneous redirects. The maintainer fixed the first bug pretty quickly, so hopefully the others will be fixed shortly, and then I can go back and fix the broken redirects.

--maru (talk) contribs 20:30, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

selflinks

You have a robot removing selflinks.

Is it absolutely necessary for your robot to remove those selflinks from inside <ref></ref> pairs? --Geo Swan 18:35, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Absolutely necessary? No, not really, but I don't see it doing any harm, either. --maru (talk) contribs 18:39, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

What you call selflinks show up in bold. Which I don't consider a big deal. But, if that reference could also be useful in a related article, and you paste it into that other article, what you called a self-link points to the main article. Here are a couple of examples: Khalden training camp#References, Casio F91W#References. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Geo Swan (talk • contribs)

Such copy-and-pastes need to be reformatted to fit in their new environment, anyway, and if references are being recycled that much, the best course is often to make an article on that reference, regardless. --maru (talk) contribs 03:25, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Fast deleting of PRODs

Hello Maru. I am also an admin who has been deleting prods today (for the 31/5 set). I am wondering how you can delete so many so quickly, more than 10-15 per minute. At the moment I can only do about four. Do you have a tool which speeds things up? Regards, Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 04:49, 6 June 2006 (UTC).

Nope. I simply have a tabbed browser called Firefox. I open up a letter or two's worth of PRODS, go through them all in order (opening up the delete windows in hidden tabs as I go), and then with my mad l33tt keyboard prowess, delete'em. --maru (talk) contribs 04:52, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Proded redirect

You were wondering why I proded a redirected template. Simple - as said in the PROD - it was orphaned after the template had been moved and all uses of it had been adjusted to the new location. --Agathoclea 06:35, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

But is that any guarantee it would stay orphaned? --maru (talk) contribs 16:10, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Deletion of article on Katia Kapovich

Hi. I see you deleted the article Katia Kapovich ... somehow I must have missed the discussion on this one ... where can I find the discussion page? I believe she definitely warrants an article, although what was there may not have made her importance clear enough. Anyhow, I'd like to see the discussion before recreating the page. --Stumps 11:22, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

d'oh ... I see it was a PROD ... ho hummm, sorry I missed it getting tagged. I've recreated the article, and started adding a little more detail. --Stumps 13:31, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Better luck next time. I'm glad to see that this time some notability claims have been added. --maru (talk) contribs 16:11, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi (anon blocking request)

We need an immediate block on this user 199.216.126.50 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log). Repeated rapid vandalism... Thanks. --Adambiswanger1 19:49, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Done. But normally this sort of thing is handled by Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. --maru (talk) contribs 19:55, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Yea, normally I would do that, but he vandalized a few pages in a short amount of time, so I clicked on the first admin I saw. Thanks for your help. --Adambiswanger1 20:09, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. --maru (talk) contribs 20:11, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Friend

I added your name to this. Check it out and put your sig over my generic link, if you don't mind your name being there. Thanks! the_ed17^(T)_(C)^(P)_(U)^(F)_(WW) 02:10, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

You archived!

You archived, the Apocalypse is coming! :-O --Jedi6-(need help?) 03:26, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

The wiki hit a million articles, GWB was elected president twice, Redwolf24 burned out - these are all portents and signs! Don't blame me, the messenger, for it was written that they shall have eyes, and not see articles, ears and not hear ogg files... --maru (talk) contribs 03:28, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Next up on the Apocalypse countdown: Willy on Wheels becomes an admin! Jedi6-(need help?) 03:31, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Oh, that happened last year. It kept the Wikipedia Index in a tizzy for weeks! --maru (talk) contribs 03:33, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Hey he was over the 75% support mark. Wikipedia:Bad jokes and other deleted nonsense/April Fools' Day 2005/Willy on Wheels for admin :-) Jedi6-(need help?) 03:41, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, and that was exactly why the policy wonks went crazy attacking the process wonks and vice versa. Quite a flamewar! --maru (talk) contribs 03:46, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Awww. I missed all the fun :-( If I tried to do that I would probably be blocked on spot. Jedi6-(need help?) 03:52, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Probably! Heck, your username already looks like a sock (I can just imagine another admin looking at it and going, "Hmm. I wonder what happened to the other 5 Jedi?"). --maru (talk) contribs 03:54, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Well Jedi1 died of dehydration, Jedi2's page was moved to Jedi4's page by Willy on Wheels which caused them both to gang up on Jedi3. Then Jedi5 proceeded to destroy them both by tricking them into starting a wheel war over a userbox. Finally one day Jedi5's apprentice Jedi6 overthrew him when he wasn't looking. Jedi6-(need help?) 04:04, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

If I became your apprentice... would I be able to save Padme? --maru (talk) contribs 04:15, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes but you must give into your anger. You must kill your former master and friend. Just make sure that if Padme comes to plead to you and you find your former master with her, Don't force choke her, you can't believe what happened last time. Jedi6-(need help?) 04:25, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

I... must kill Jon Hart? But what about Deckiller? --maru (talk) contribs 04:31, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Don't you worry about Deckiller, muhuhaha. Jedi6-(need help?) 05:28, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, my master. He is either with us or against us. --maru (talk) contribs 17:13, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

You archive and then Wikipedia suffers a major power failure and is down for 6 hours. Coincidence? Jedi6-(need help?) 02:31, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

You can't prove anything- the power failure happened the next day, and there is no possible consequence one day later that could explain it, so I am dismayed at your weckless weckless accusations. --maru (talk) contribs 02:44, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

It is with great reluctance that I have agreed to this calling. I love editing … I love Wikipedia. The power you give me I will lay down when this (power) crisis has abated. And as my first act with this new authority, I will create a Grand Army of the Wiki to counter the increasing threats of Wookieepedia." --Jedi6-(need help?) 03:32, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

So this is how fancruft dies... to applause and laughter. --maru (talk) contribs 03:33, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

I need your help son... I am counting on you to be the eyes, ears and voice of the Wiki. Marudubshinki , I am appointing you to be my personal representative on the Administrators' noticeboard. --Jedi6-(need help?) 03:45, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Surely the Cabal will make me an administrator now! --maru (talk) contribs 03:47, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Only through me can you achieve a power greater than any Admin or bureaucrat. Jedi6-(need help?) 03:57, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

What did you say? --maru (talk) contribs 04:01, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm offering you power, ultimate power. --Jedi6-(need help?) 04:21, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Real Ultimate Power?

/me gasps

You're the Vandal Lord the Cabal has been searching for! --maru (talk) contribs 04:23, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

I know what has been troubling you . . . Listen to me. Don't continue to be a pawn of Jimbo Wales and the Cabal! Ever since I've known you, you've been searching for a life greater than that of an ordinary Admin . . . a life of significance, of conscience. Jedi6-(need help?) 04:36, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

You're POVed! --maru (talk) contribs 04:39, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Are you going to ban me? Jedi6-(need help?) 04:42, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

I would certainly like to! --maru (talk) contribs 04:51, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

I know you would. I can feel your POV. It gives you focus, makes you revert. Jedi6-(need help?) 06:04, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

I am going to turn you over to the cabal! --maru (talk) contribs 14:17, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Of course you should. But you're not sure of their intentions, are you? What if I am right and they are plotting to take over Wikipedia, or worse? Jedi6-(need help?) 23:27, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

I will quickly verify your unsourced edit. --maru (talk) contribs 23:32, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

You have great barnstars, Marudubshinki. Know the power of editcountitis. The power to save Padme.

I am not going anywhere. You have time to unblock my fate. Perhaps you'll reconsider and help me rule the wiki for the good of the Internet. --Jedi6-(need help?) 23:41, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Pfft, don't listen to him. I've seen them come and go, those snot-nosed punks who decimate entire planets and kill millions. Happens all the time. Like this last guy, he actually ended up trying to convert his son into a Sith! Would you imagine that pervert... _-M ^o P-_ 05:10, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Just look at what happened to that pervert and his master! Stay with us, Maru. Stay with the light!!!! the_ed17^{(talk)Use these!} 19:29, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

But... I have to save my article, Padme! I love it! --maru (talk) contribs 22:02, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

No, you don't HAVE to. You just WANT to. Think of all you've learned. Jedi6 is evil. We are good. the_ed17^{(talk)Use these!} 14:29, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't know what to believe now! --maru (talk) contribs 20:06, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Are you sure? You know what is right, deep down in your heart. the_ed17 02:01, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

I used to be so sure, but now when I feel my heart, all I feel is the char of burning out... --maru (talk) contribs 02:20, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Ummmmm, ok then, look deep inside your head for your friends who aren't evil like Jedi6. The "need help" in his sig is just a ploy to draw in poor, tortured souls like yours, Maru. the_ed17 14:01, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Attention...Attention!

Wikipedia:Random picture of the day (formerly User:GeorgeMoney/potd) has been nominated for deletion by Hetar because he doesn't like a (now abolished) rule that could have just been discussed on the talk page instead of nominating it for deletion. Please vote on the MfD page. Thanks, the_ed17^(T)_(C)^(P)_(F)^(WW) 14:01, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

I've voted. --maru (talk) contribs 17:33, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

North West 200 2006

I was trying to find the right sponsor for the race, so I wanted to see if it worked ok. I was categorizing but it came out of it without any changes. :( --Cs-wolves 18:31, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

All's well which ends well. --maru (talk) contribs 18:35, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

List of Internet Prank Flash Animations

Do you mind me redirecting it? Λυδαcιτγ 02:45, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

No. --maru (talk) contribs 03:22, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Leon County in the Civil War

Received your notice at Leon County in the Civil War. Work is in progress an sources are cited. Noles1984 20:24, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, my concern wasn't with sources, or the actual quality of the formatting or prose (what I looked at seemed to be fine), but rather with the aim of the article. It looks like a list (which should be reflected in the title; is that article really about "Leon County in the Civil War", or is it a List of Civil War soldiers from Leon County, and if the latter, then why should it be a separate article and not a part of a Leon County or a Civil War article?) and I'm none too sure about its point. Most of the personages don't seem too notable. --maru (talk) contribs 00:52, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

International Space Agency (ISA)

You visited our new listing international Space Agency (ISA).

All information is correct.

We are open to any feed back, however, please be aware that at present there is an all out effort by powerful government agencies, and agents, who have spread massive amounts false information and propaganda to unsuspecting people, to cause harm to the ISA organization and its people.

We are legitimate.

Also, be aware that if you do a search on the internet for "International Space Agency" you will find years and years and layers and layers of false information, propaganda, and manufactured lies about the International Space Agency (ISA) Organization, and our Founder, Mr. Rick R. Dobson, Jr. People have even used Mr. Dobson’s name on the internet, pretending they are him, when in fact they were not, and this has caused major problems! Also, these same government agents have been sending out hundreds of emails, looking as if it has come from the International Space Agency (ISA) Organization, when in fact these emails did not come from the ISA Organization, and were intended to cause harm and to deceive people. These are ongoing problems, which the ISA Organization is constantly fighting against.

Just want to set the record straight before any false information or propaganda is taken as fact, and cause problems to unsuspecting people.

Thanks. ISA Global Team. (402) 299-2799 public-affairs@isa-hq.com

It's a huge mess. The formatting and prose are equally awful, notability isn't particularly well established, it isn't linking to or from very much, or categorized, sources are rarely or haphazardly cited (and your statements above only compound that problem).... etc. --maru (talk) contribs 00:54, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

BunnyTrack notability

Hello. I believe you are wrong in displaying a notability notice on the BunnyTrack page. If you can suggest to me how I can improve its notability, please do so and I will. There are countless web sites which include sections devoted to BunnyTrack including www.clanbase.com, www.i4games.net and www.fraggednation.com. There are several worldwide tournaments held every year for this game type, also. It is an absolutely integral part of the Unreal Tournament community. In fact, reading through Wikipedia's notability policy, I have to say that I think your placing of the tag on the page was extremely unjustified. There is no way that anyone could claim that the article's statements are unjustifiable, original research or for vanity. BT maps are very real and there are over 600 individual levels. Please advise as to how I should proceed. Soulhunter123.

First off, NOR and sourcing are necessary but not sufficient conditions for an article. As for how to establish notability? I'm not very sure. There are only a few similar articles. Tactical Ops: Assault on Terror is obviously notable since it was eventually released as a separate game, but neither the other two examples (Thievery UT and Strangelove (video game)) seem to have ever seriously established or been challenged on their notability.

Incidentally, you don't seem to know how to sign properly; see Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages. Long story short, --~~~~. --maru (talk) contribs 03:18, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I've posted the article's link on BunnyTrack forums and already there has been one edit to the "Origins" section. I'm unsure of the amount of experience you've had with BT yourself, but it is most definitely one of the most popular gametypes and, in the months in which I had been absent from the BT community, it has grown enormousely. Many new servers have been purchased and several new websites have been launched. What I'll do is attempt to add more external links to the article to well-established websites (FraggedNation, ClanBase etc.) and hopefully this will suffice. The StrangeLove article, in my opinion, warrants the notability notice much more than BunnyTrack! =P (And, may I say, StrangeLove is much less popular too!). Also, thanks for letting me know about the signature thing, that was a big help! Hope to see you around. --Soulhunter123

USS Grand Canyon (AD-28)

You state (through userboxes) that you don't use Microsoft products, so why the Xbox then? More to the real reason I came here, you deleted the page: USS Grand Canyon (AD-28) (rightfully so). I did some google searches and uncovered some info, so I re-created the page as a stub (rather than the pile of nonsense that another editor made earlier). I was hoping you could point me towards a policy/guideline that discusses the creation of deleted pages, as I am not sure if I have broken any rules in doing this. Also, 23000 edits(!!!), that's HUGE, are you sure you didn't add an extra zero to that? MichaelBillington 03:25, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, as I told an anon a few months ago, I justify that by running Linux on it when it's not doing anything, and by prudent use of doublethink, there's no problem.

As for the recreation, I very much doubt anyone will hassle you over it. The results are more important than the process, after all. IAR, and such.

re: 23k. Nope. That's wrong. I probably should update it, but it's only low by about three or four thousand, so I'm in no real hurry. --maru (talk) contribs 03:37, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Marudubshinki, thanks for alerting us to make a category for "David Lucas Burge." It looks like you're totally swamped with work, but if you get a moment, we'd appreciate your advice for the best category selection for this. Thanks again. --AEMP 03:30, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Think Living Person, Born in XXXX, and some sort of musican category and maybe entrepreneur as well depending on how commercial his course is. --maru (talk) contribs 03:39, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Deletion of Video Gamerz page

I'd like to know why you think it should be deleted.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Falco1029 (talk • contribs)

It makes no sense, and it is a worthless article on a two bit Flash animation. It is lacking in all notability. And there's only two actual episodes? Get real. --maru (talk) contribs 05:19, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Psychology wiki

Hi Maru: I appreciate your concern about notability. Had to go off and have my dinner and was only halfway through.

Can you look again at Psychology Wiki and see if I have resolved your concerns. Thanks. --Lifeartist 19:36, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, you did. The article still need a fair amount of cleanup (especially those odd tables of links), but the Wikia statistics definitely addressed my notability concern. --maru (talk) contribs 22:00, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Hey Maru, have a look at the Psychology Wiki's new Community Portal :) Mostly Zen 03:21, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Looks pretty nice, although the FAQ doesn't really address the "why a separate wiki?" question - I haven't noticed any crusades to purge Wikipedia of psychology cruft, so I don't see the motivation. --maru (talk) contribs 03:36, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Lozi mythology

Hi. I created the Lozi mythology article and I noticed that you attached a clean-up tag. I'm new to editing on Wikipedia, so I'm willing to learn from any old hands. Exactly what needs to be done?

Mungo

First, it needs categories. Then, it needs to be wikified; see Wikipedia:Guide to layout or Wikipedia:How to edit a page. Then, the prose should be fixed up and wikilinked to whatever may be relevant. Finally, the referencing could be improved in one of the methods linked to from Wikipedia:Citing sources (specifically, look at the Citation styles section). --maru (talk) contribs 03:59, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi, again. I have tried to follow the suggestions you made: I have put in a couple of categories; I have followed examples from other articles on mythology, to introduce standard layout; and I have introduced wikilinks. The only other suggestion I haven't fulfilled is the referencing. I hope to find time for that within the next week or so. Is what I've done so far acceptable? Mungo 05:13, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

It's better, certainly. --maru (talk) contribs 11:27, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

bot

Hi, please do not run bots from your normal account. Martin 09:58, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Better still, don't run it at all. It keeps messing up pages. --Zundark 13:43, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Are you sure it was messing up pages, Zundark? I went through a couple of dozen revisions before I set it loose, and I don't remember seeing it ever screw up any HTML-to-wiki conversions (since I doubt you're complaining about the "wikicities" -> "wikia" replacement, but rather the HTML conversion options I turned on). --maru (talk) contribs 17:49, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Of course I'm sure. Take at look at beth two and multiplication table, for example. There are probably many more - these two just happened to be on my watchlist. --Zundark 19:44, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Hmm. Those edits do result in errors, but that's as much Wikimarkup's inability to differentiate between simple bolding and italicizing-with-an-apostrophe as the bot's fault. Guess I'll file a bug report for that. --maru (talk) contribs 21:07, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Blaming the wiki markup for having no way to distinguish between bolding and italicizing-with-an-apostrophe is ridiculous, since you can use HTML in these situations. Why didn't you use HTML in these situations? How would it have made any difference if there was a wiki-markup way of doing it, when your bot doesn't even notice the problem in the first place? You set a buggy and poorly tested bot loose on Wikipedia, and are now trying to shift the blame for the resulting corruption of articles. I am not impressed. --Zundark 07:52, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't think that pointing out a real, general flaw which makes multiple things difficult and often results in bugs in regular editting (which has annoyed me on multiple occasions, as it has both made it difficult to properly italicize ship titles and still use possessives in any relatively simple way, as the HTML solution is as clumsy as using nowiki tags and caused me grief with unintentional bolding) is "shifting the blame". HTML should be replaced with wikimarkup where-ever possible, and you are foolish indeed if you can't see why turning HTML into wikimarkup per the MoS is a good thing. --maru (talk) contribs 11:34, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Blaming the misbehaviour of your unauthorized and inadequately tested bot on a "flaw" in wiki markup is obviously an attempt to shift the blame - an attempt that is made even lamer by your admission that you already knew about this "flaw" from your regular editing. The straw-man attack of your last sentence is just pitiful. --Zundark 18:24, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

I have briefly blocked (15 mins) this account as an unauthorised bot, note that I only resorted to this because of the above complaint and because there has been no response from you. Martin 14:40, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

That's quite alright. If my bot was indeed messing up as Zundark claims, then blocking was the right thing, since I was asleep at the time. --maru (talk) contribs 17:50, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Italics in Villian

Please note that html was used in the villian article because of apostrophe issues which made wiki markup more complicated than html, defeating the purpose of using wiki markup in the first place. Your edit actually broke the italics [7]. I have reverted this to the style arrived at by consensus on February 1. NickelShoe (Talk) 15:46, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Duly noted. I shall leave the consensus alone then. --maru (talk) contribs 18:46, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Category

You added a {{categorise}} tag to my page on Usama al-Najafi. It is already categorised as an "Iraqi politician". What other cats did you have in mind? AndrewRT 22:31, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, even granting you that a stub is any decent form of categorization, the article is missing a birth date (and a categorization for that). --maru (talk) contribs 22:34, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Muirchertach MacLochlainn

Hello. You tagged this for a merge with High King of Ireland, not a bad plan given the content. However, I've written a stub on the actual person so that a merge is, I think, no longer needed. All the best! --Angus McLellan (Talk) 00:07, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

That was definitely a major overhaul. Did the original version even give any of the bio? Anyhoo, good luck sorting that out. --maru (talk) contribs 00:29, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Unauthorized bots

Hi Marudubshinki. Can you please stop running unauthorized bots in any form? There's a reason for the authorization process, which is that if more people think about what the bot is doing and then it has a trial period, mistakes are less likely to be made. It is against policy to run unauthorized bots; see Wikipedia:Bots, please. -- SCZenz 08:09, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

That is true, but I find running a bot to be extremely useful. Finding all these bugs are simply handy side-effects. --maru (talk) contribs 11:26, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Do you plan to talk to the people who deal with bot authorization and go through that process? -- SCZenz 11:47, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Yup. Already have, actually, weeks and weeks ago. --maru (talk) contribs 12:17, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

I believe you've left off an important detail here: it would appear, from the information available to me, that approval was not granted. Certainly as of this edit on May 21, you had no approval for running Bot-Maru (since LightBringer is a member of the approvals group, he would know). Then you seem to have requested approval at WP:BRFA#User:Bot-maru and been denied. Am I missing something? -- SCZenz 13:46, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, so far as I know, my request is still pending, and thus neither accepted nor denied. --maru (talk) contribs 18:27, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Will you, or will you not, stop running a bot from your own account in violation of policy? -- SCZenz 10:47, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Omar Khayyam/ non-Euclidean geometry/ England

Hi; you've written that Khayyam critisms of the Parallel axiom came to England where they influenced the founding of non-Euclidean geometry. Are you sure of this? The founders of this subject were all (to my knowledge) in continental Europe. --A Geek Tragedy 17:18, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, the founders were in continental Europe, sure, but it's pretty hard to deny that Khayyam was an early forunner; see [8] MacTutor History of Mathematics archive's [9].

--maru (talk) contribs 18:46, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

O I'm not questioning that; I'm just wondering about "criticisms...made their way to England where they contributed to the eventual development of non-Euclidean geometry." It seems as though it should be "made their way to Germany, Hungary and Russia" or "made ther way to Europe". As a English mathematician I'd quite like your version to be true :), but I think it isn't. I'll change "England" to "Europe" for now since it will be a strictly weaker claim so I can't possibly be making it untrue. A Geek Tragedy 13:15, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I see I misunderstood you. To be honest, I can't remember where the England bit came from. --maru (talk) contribs 16:10, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Blocked

I blocked your account because it was running an unauthorized bot that was editing the comments of users. You have received many requests not to do this, even for small typos, which I think you should respect. Feel free to unblock yourself once your bot is no longer active or this problem is fixed. -- SCZenz 10:27, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Understood. (I forgot to include the namespace restriction! D'oh!) --maru (talk) contribs 19:55, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Also, your bot edited a closed RfC: Request for Comment/Ultramarine. This gives an inappropriate impression of new activity on an old RfC, as well as editing user comments. Please adjust your bot not to do this. Thanks. Robert A.West (Talk) 12:55, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

The edit summary was quite clear. I don't see how a robot edit could give anyone the impression that a closed RfC was live or anything. --maru (talk) contribs 19:55, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Also, on my RFA, "the the" was supposed to be "to the" - deleting the second "the" made the sentence less comprehensible. Guettarda 13:00, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Disagree. Think that omitting a word is more comprehensible than a completely wrong word. --maru (talk) contribs 19:55, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

I disagree to this action anywhere. There can be case of a double "the the". There's a band called The The too who'll have mentions in various places. This should, if ran at all, be an AWB-only activity. No way should it be automated. Esteffect 21:15, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

No. I restricted replacements to two lowercases, " the the ", so it would only match in the middle of a sentence as well. If the band The The is referenced, it would be as " The The ", which doesn't match the text string. If it is mispelled as " the the ", well, it was already erroneous anyway. --maru (talk) contribs 22:25, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Michelangelo the Artist - an Appraisal's cleanup tag

Greetings Maru!

I am the person who put up the new article on Michelangelo the Artist. It was part of a long article that had a biography and a great deal of general information. This present article deals in depth with three of the four most significant works by the artist. I will write about the Pieta in due course.

I can assure you that there is little problem with the grammar, though sometimes my spelling is wanting. I must comment here also that when writing a general description for an encyclopedia, one does not use colourful or judgemental words.

But when one is writing about great works of art, then one is dealing with aesthetics. What one attempts to explain, in so many words, is why a particular work is visually pleasing, or disturbing. To omit descriptive adjectives from a discussion of art is almost impossible. Edit them out, and what have you left?

One might just as well look at a discussion of his life and endless argument as to his gender preferences. And not bother to look at the artworks themselves, except to say that the subject is such'n such, painted at such'n such a date and in such'n such a medium. Not really much use to the art student.

The references accidentally got left behind on the previous page. They are now reunited with the topic. You will have observed, of course, that there were references cited within the text. That was still a job in progress when I moved the page. (I'm working on a couple of other things as well andd hadn't got back to this.)

So I would be much obliged if you leave the stuff right where it is until it's finished, rather than encouraging people to chop it up before it's done.

--Amandajm 16:05, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

I tags'em as I sees'em. That article was in desperate shape, and clearly shewed that it was chopped out of another. I was also concerned since the title made me nervous about POV forking and inherently subjective and unreferenced discussion of art that belonged more properly to Wikibooks or perhaps another similar project. --maru (talk) contribs 19:48, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

"Algoma School District"

I know it needs work, I only started the article and will see if some class in the school district this fall wants to tackle the page, otherwise I'll try to fix it as time goes on.David Unit 21:01, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Dead link bot - problem ?

Your bot reported this link as dead - it doesn't appear to be. Sometimes access to US mil/NASA domain is restricted by IP range (or it seems to be). --Megapixie 03:10, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

(You've probably already thought of this, but I have to say it). The error was a 404 error; if the domains were filtering by IP, wouldn't it be a connection refused by peer or similar error? 404 is supposed to mean a page is gone, not that there was an error in transmission or the server was configured to refuse the request for whatever reason, no? --maru (talk) contribs 03:46, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

I must admit that getting a 404 error for the page is a little weird. Can you run that link through the code to see if you get the same result? http://www.hq.nasa.gov/pao/History/SP-468/cover.htm seems to be up, and it seems unlikely that you'd have caught it being momentarily in a bad state. --Megapixie 03:51, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Not quite sure what you're asking there. I can get to that link, certainly, but short of grepping an XML dump, parsing the output through some pipes, and then feeding that to weblinkchecker.py, there isn't anyway I can check a specific url- I can only check pages and ranges and such that link to an external URL; I can't check external URLs that link from to an article, if that makes sense. --maru (talk) contribs 03:55, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Maybe there is a bug in your bot - and it is reporting false positives. Re-running the same input would confirm that. Megapixie 04:09, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Ah! I think I've figured it out. The problem is that that link is wrapped around by one of the referencing templates:

{{cite web|author=Loftin, LK, Jr.|title=Quest for performance: The evolution of modern aircraft. NASA P-468|url=http://www.hq.nasa.gov/pao/History/SP-468/cover.htm|accessdate=2006-04-22}}

For whatever reason, the bot reads until the end of the template, including the "accessdate=2006-04-22" bit as the final portion of the web address. Of course, if you try to go to "http://www.hq.nasa.gov/pao/History/SP-468/cover.htm%7Caccessdate=2006-04-22", what do you get? A 404 error, of course! I suppose I should shut down the bot, but the cite web template isn't used very often, and examples of cite webs in which there is no space between the link, the pipe, and the dating would be even rarer, so there'd be only a few false positives. I'm gonna go file a bug report now. --maru (talk) contribs 04:19, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Andre Engels has uploaded a patch he thinks solves the problem. Of course, it needs to be tested... --maru (talk) contribs 11:15, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Dead link bot - problem ?

Your bot reported this link as dead - it doesn't appear to be. Sometimes access to US mil/NASA domain is restricted by IP range (or it seems to be). --Megapixie 03:10, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

(You've probably already thought of this, but I have to say it). The error was a 404 error; if the domains were filtering by IP, wouldn't it be a connection refused by peer or similar error? 404 is supposed to mean a page is gone, not that there was an error in transmission or the server was configured to refuse the request for whatever reason, no? --maru (talk) contribs 03:46, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

I must admit that getting a 404 error for the page is a little weird. Can you run that link through the code to see if you get the same result? http://www.hq.nasa.gov/pao/History/SP-468/cover.htm seems to be up, and it seems unlikely that you'd have caught it being momentarily in a bad state. --Megapixie 03:51, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Not quite sure what you're asking there. I can get to that link, certainly, but short of grepping an XML dump, parsing the output through some pipes, and then feeding that to weblinkchecker.py, there isn't anyway I can check a specific url- I can only check pages and ranges and such that link to an external URL; I can't check external URLs that link from to an article, if that makes sense. --maru (talk) contribs 03:55, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Maybe there is a bug in your bot - and it is reporting false positives. Re-running the same input would confirm that. Megapixie 04:09, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Ah! I think I've figured it out. The problem is that that link is wrapped around by one of the referencing templates:

{{cite web|author=Loftin, LK, Jr.|title=Quest for performance: The evolution of modern aircraft. NASA P-468|url=http://www.hq.nasa.gov/pao/History/SP-468/cover.htm|accessdate=2006-04-22}}

For whatever reason, the bot reads until the end of the template, including the "accessdate=2006-04-22" bit as the final portion of the web address. Of course, if you try to go to "http://www.hq.nasa.gov/pao/History/SP-468/cover.htm%7Caccessdate=2006-04-22", what do you get? A 404 error, of course! I suppose I should shut down the bot, but the cite web template isn't used very often, and examples of cite webs in which there is no space between the link, the pipe, and the dating would be even rarer, so there'd be only a few false positives. I'm gonna go file a bug report now. --maru (talk) contribs 04:19, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Andre Engels has uploaded a patch he thinks solves the problem. Of course, it needs to be tested... --maru (talk) contribs 11:15, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Dead link bot - problem ?

Your bot reported this link as dead - it doesn't appear to be. Sometimes access to US mil/NASA domain is restricted by IP range (or it seems to be). --Megapixie 03:10, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

(You've probably already thought of this, but I have to say it). The error was a 404 error; if the domains were filtering by IP, wouldn't it be a connection refused by peer or similar error? 404 is supposed to mean a page is gone, not that there was an error in transmission or the server was configured to refuse the request for whatever reason, no? --maru (talk) contribs 03:46, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

I must admit that getting a 404 error for the page is a little weird. Can you run that link through the code to see if you get the same result? http://www.hq.nasa.gov/pao/History/SP-468/cover.htm seems to be up, and it seems unlikely that you'd have caught it being momentarily in a bad state. --Megapixie 03:51, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Not quite sure what you're asking there. I can get to that link, certainly, but short of grepping an XML dump, parsing the output through some pipes, and then feeding that to weblinkchecker.py, there isn't anyway I can check a specific url- I can only check pages and ranges and such that link to an external URL; I can't check external URLs that link from to an article, if that makes sense. --maru (talk) contribs 03:55, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Maybe there is a bug in your bot - and it is reporting false positives. Re-running the same input would confirm that. Megapixie 04:09, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Ah! I think I've figured it out. The problem is that that link is wrapped around by one of the referencing templates:

{{cite web|author=Loftin, LK, Jr.|title=Quest for performance: The evolution of modern aircraft. NASA P-468|url=http://www.hq.nasa.gov/pao/History/SP-468/cover.htm|accessdate=2006-04-22}}

For whatever reason, the bot reads until the end of the template, including the "accessdate=2006-04-22" bit as the final portion of the web address. Of course, if you try to go to "http://www.hq.nasa.gov/pao/History/SP-468/cover.htm%7Caccessdate=2006-04-22", what do you get? A 404 error, of course! I suppose I should shut down the bot, but the cite web template isn't used very often, and examples of cite webs in which there is no space between the link, the pipe, and the dating would be even rarer, so there'd be only a few false positives. I'm gonna go file a bug report now. --maru (talk) contribs 04:19, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Andre Engels has uploaded a patch he thinks solves the problem. Of course, it needs to be tested... --maru (talk) contribs 11:15, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

It's ok.

I'm bored and I enjoy using my vast depository of Star Wars Knowledge with others and enjoy writing the article from scratch - good way of testing my memory.

Already know about the Wookiepedia, but some of the info I've listed isn't there.

Cheers. --James Random 15:27, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, part of the reason I suggested that you build on Wookieepedia's articles when Wikipedia doesn't yet have one is that theirs are generally better than yours. --maru (talk) contribs 19:37, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

solve_disambiguation doesn't respect MoS for dabs

Your robot (for robot-assisted disambiguation) should be tweaked so that it does not pipe links on disambiguation pages. Your edit to flux (disambiguation) converted a non-piped link to a piped link, contrary to WP:MOSDAB, which specifies that links on disambiguation pages should generally not be piped. --Srleffler 11:08, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Bug has been filed here. --maru (talk) contribs 19:38, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Deletion Log from June 9th on article How to Build a Cat 5 Cable

Hello Marudubshinki,

I would like to know what the reasons were behind your deleting "How to Build a Cat 5 Cable" article that I posted? I personally did not write it, but it was written from someone in my company, and I was posting it here. It is also posted on both of our websites. www.cat-5-cable.com/building-cat-5-cable.html and www.comtradcables.com/cat-5-cable/cat-5-cable.aspx. If you could please list your reasoning behind this action, I would appreciate it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Comtrad (talk • contribs)

Article quality issues entirely aside, the issue is copyright. If it was written by someone in your company, and for your company, it is almost guaranteed that your company owns the copyright. Which is to say, you cannot legally submit that to Wikipedia, because Wikipedia requires content to be at least licensed under the GFDL, and as you are not the company nor a legally autthorized agent (AFAIK), you cannot grant the GFDL license. Which means that any copy of that article on Wikipedia is illegal and a copyright violation, and the penalties for copyright violation in the US are severe. --maru (talk) contribs 20:42, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Small Towns in Durham

Why did you add a cleanup tag to Small Towns in Durham? There's nothing to clean up. I've marked it for speedy deletion now. --Tango 21:06, 17 June 2006 (UTC)