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Happy editing! Cheers, lavender|^{(formerly HMSSolent)}|lambast 04:15, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Reverted, reverted, reverted

You added paragraphs of content to three articles without at the same time adding references to confirm the new content. For this reason, those changes were reverted (reversed). The content can be seen and rescued from View history. If you have references to support the deleted content, you can copy that content into your Sandbox, add properly formatted references there, then return the content and references to the articles. Wikipedia requires reliable source references. Learn more about that at WP:42. The same applies to your intent to create and submit a draft about IB Howe. David notMD (talk) 15:19, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

None of that

None of that can be accepted for an article. If you submit it, it will either be Speedy deleted or Rejected. In an article about a person, every fact statement must be verified by a published reference. Your content has no references! Please look at the example articles about other railroad civil engineers as examples of referencing. David notMD (talk) 00:04, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

But you said you cannot accept letters or magazine articles/ text. Others here said they wanted more details so I posted them.

Several here have indicated it takes months to get acceptyed. I assumed there would be time to enter what documentation you will accept is availble. Remember, this is from the very beginning of the CNW and there is very little lit. that IB Howe existed. I am depending on you guys to help with what can be published. MarkWHowe (talk) 03:01, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

References are to be added at the same time content is added. When a draft is submitted to Articles for Creation for review, the review can take place any time between hours to months. There is a backlog of thousands of drafts but the system is not a queue. Rather, reviewers select what to review next. Teahouse Hosts are there to advise, not to be co-authors or reference finders. A collection of letters cannot be references. Ditto historical society newsletters and websites. David notMD (talk) 03:15, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

To my knowledge, [which is very limited,] I have not submitted antything to AfC as you call it. Am I allowed to 'play' in my 'sandbox' without risk of deletion? Obviously it would be difficult to annotate 10000 words of text at the same time it is added to my sandbox. Or is there a better way? MarkWHowe (talk) 14:17, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

kAnother thing, I have seen comments about adding a 'signature'; it looks like four tildas make a signature?? I have not done that, should I? MarkWHowe (talk) 14:19, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

You can certainly play around with your sandbox without the risk of deletion. I can't help with much right now but I should be able to get some of these issues sorted out soon, probably next week. (Also, yes, four tildes makes a signature) BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:07, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! MarkWHowe (talk) 02:52, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Apologies for taking a bit longer than promised. I've been busier than expected, but should be able to take a look within a few days. I haven't forgotten about Isaac Howe! BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:08, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you; I have been working for years so another few days is nothing.  :-} I appreciate your interest. MarkWHowe (talk) 16:55, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Confirming that you can keep content in your Sandbox indefinitely. If you convert it to a draft and do not submit, there is a six month deadline if no editing is done to a draft. One point about your Sandbox is that it is invisible to external search such as Google and also to internal search within Wikipedia. The only reason people (me, others) are aware of it is because you submitted a query to Teahouse. David notMD (talk) 03:54, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, that is helpful MarkWHowe (talk) 05:18, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

I take exception to the claim that a personal sandbox is invisible to an internal search e.g. User talk:MarkWHowe/sandbox. Fabrickator (talk) 06:19, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

• I'm available now. I took a look. Wow – that is a lot of information you put about Howe. A few thoughts. I'm afraid it'll need a good deal of cleanup and probably some significant trimming down (for example, the sandbox should focus more on Howe himself – I think it gets a little too off-topic at times), but I'm willing to work with you to get an article published. I moved it to User:MarkWHowe/sandbox and added an infobox with a picture. A significant issue is how much of the content is unreferenced – generally each paragraph should have a citation at the end like this: . Where exactly did you get all the information from (is it all from letters, some from other places, etc.)? Ultimately I don't think the much of the text of the letters will be able to be included (although if essential to explaining certain parts, they may be able to be used in a limited way – we'll see). Also, its a little difficult to go through the sandbox since the text talking about Howe and Howe's letters are intertwined: do you think you could sort them out? For now, the letters can be put into the formatting: {{blockquote|text of letters}}. What do you think? BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:50, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Isaac Howe story in Chicago Geneaologist

I have provided a link to the Winter 2018 issue of "Chicago Geneaologist", including the story about Isaac Howe titled "A Railroad Superintendent Visits Chicago".

I make no claims that this meets the criteria for a reliable source nor whether it would contribute to the notability of Isaac Howe. Fabrickator (talk) 21:22, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

WOW Fabrickator, what a treasure trove I didn't know about. Pfannkuche is the author of my rejected CNW Lines source. I wonder if he has any other articles around. What a shame he didn't know about Dr. Williams. Thank you! MarkWHowe (talk) 01:48, 27 April 2024 (UTC)