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Proposed deletion of Bryan Alwyn Barlow

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A page you started (Agelanthus kayseri) has been reviewed!

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Could you disambiguate 'Salvadora', please, and I think you need to correct atrocoronatus. Is this taxon parastic like many others in the genus? If so, it would be nice to state that.

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Nick Moyes (talk) 22:40, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

A page you started (Agelanthus microphyllus) has been reviewed!

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Please indicate if this taxon is parasitic like others in its genus.

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Nick Moyes (talk) 00:01, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

A page you started (Agelanthus igneus) has been reviewed!

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Nick Moyes (talk) 00:03, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Plant articles

Nice new plant articles! One general point is that references go after punctuation in the English Wikipedia; you tend to put them before it. Peter coxhead (talk) 14:03, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

It's also a good idea to put a template like {{WikiProject Plants|class=Stub|importance=Low|needs-photo=yes}} on the talk page of a new article (without the "needs-photo" of course if there is one). Peter coxhead (talk) 14:05, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Apologies if you already know this, but when you create an article, go to Wikidata (e.g here) and search for the scientific name of the plant. If you find it (like Agelanthus uhehensis (Q15380995) for example) then scroll down to the box near the bottom headed Wikipedia and use the edit button to add "en" + the plant name. You can then paste the Q number (e.g. Q15380995) as the value of |from1= in the taxonbar. If there's a Plants of the World Online article, you can add |powo= with the IPNI ID as the value. Sometimes the basionym will also be present in Wikidata; if so, it's useful to add its Q number as the value of |from2=. Peter coxhead (talk) 14:14, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, Peter. Very helpful indeed (none of this I knew) MargaretRDonald (talk) 19:32, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

If I can help, please ask. You clearly know how to write a well sourced article, which is more important than all the detail in the Manual of Style – you can pick that up as you go. Do keep on with the good work! Peter coxhead (talk) 21:11, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Some great photos you've uploaded by the way! Peter coxhead (talk) 21:14, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

External site redirection

Just a suggestion, but instead of writing "a more detailed description can be found here (an external site)" or something of the like, try to just integrate the content into the page and reference it. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a website directory. Great job on creating these plant articles though! Keep it up :) Pagliaccious (talk) 14:18, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, Pagliaccious. I'll try, but given the extremely terse & technical descriptions found at the various botanical sites, I find I am struggling not to plagiarise.... MargaretRDonald (talk) 17:22, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

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Help me!

Please help me with... showing hidden categories

I can see that this should be able to be modified using the preferences on my user page but just could not find the appropriate button/tick box MargaretRDonald (talk) 23:40, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Go to the appearance, scroll down most of the way. It's the first tickable box under the category "advanced options". —Compassionate727 ^(T·C) 00:32, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, Compassionate727 MargaretRDonald (talk) 00:35, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

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Student edits

I appreciate your concern, but you should treat students like any other Wikipedians - feel free to edit their work and improve what they've done. Or remove work, if it isn't up to snuff. This is especially true for a class that has ended. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:46, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

@Ian (Wiki Ed): Thanks, Ian. I did leave stuff on the talk pages of the students concerned, but Jim Cohen, the person giving the course does not even have a talk page (which was disappointing of someone giving a course via Wikipedia (which gives him the wonderful benefit of a history of edits...) I'll wait for a bit and then take your advice and delete what I see fit. Cheers and thanks again. MargaretRDonald (talk) 21:19, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

North West and Pilbara

If you are having problems with pilbara - spare a thought for the problems of North_West_Australia - as convoluted as Southwest Australia JarrahTree 02:56, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: Just horrified. I started to write Pilbara (biogeographic region) and then found it hidden away in a mess of detail about everything... So I have now made a mess of Pilbara in an attempt to draw attention to the fact that it means different things in different contexts. Would you be able to delete my article Pilbara (biogeographic region) as I have now removed all my pointers to it? (Or point me to someone who can do this for me? Cheers MargaretRDonald (talk) 03:16, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: It is also driving me up the wall trying to correctly refer to Eremaean Province, which has changed its definition many times over (not that the article makes reference to that!), and I have been assuming (probably wrongly), that when Florabase refers to "Beard's provinces", these are not necessarily those of IBRA??? MargaretRDonald (talk) 03:21, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

The best of all the eds to work on this stuff has walked away from regular wp en editing and lives inside wikisource... sigh...

The cop outs of regions in Tasmania - and Western Australia - those which I know the best, is a good intro/overview like the main southwest, and northwest articles like they are index articles - that explains the multiple meanings of a term. I have not exhaustively re-visited regions of wa for a cleanup JarrahTree 04:51, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Whisperback

Hello. You have a new message at Kudpung's talk page. 23:14, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Uvariopsis korupensis

You only need to put the translation attrib on the article talk page. I've also copy edited the article and rephrased a bit to avoid a minor COPYVIO. Keep up the good work, this is the kind of thing we need, most of our articles on genera and species are very short stubs. If you are going to do more translations, don't hesitate to ask if you need help, French or German, I'm a native speaker of both. JarrahTree is a personal friend and is always willing to help on anything - especially Oz related stuff. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:46, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi @Kudpung: I did keep wondering where it kept disappearing to, and then I found it on the talk page...(Good to know) Thanks, MargaretRDonald (talk) 01:52, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks

for creating new articles...

few small items - please always check that you are able to add categories - no matter how wide the scope at first and try to learn the habit of adding project tags on the talk page

not in the average to how to start - but these two items at least help stay off the nuisance new article issues

thanks JarrahTree 01:08, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Also although you do not specify your location - your photos suggest a connection - please note that Perth/WA has a good avenue to explore issues wikipedia wise at local meetups - such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Perth/47 JarrahTree 01:15, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

However we have a problem with categories where they are parents of categories we use (sigh)... JarrahTree 01:21, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

BTW your article creation is astonishingly good and amazingly top quality - welcome to wikipedia - and hope we see a lot more of your work! JarrahTree 01:25, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Oh dear - heaps of apologies - the beard article gave the sense you might have been a west oz located editor, my apologies.

Meetups are very very informal - rarely records of any sort let alone minutes.

Sydney does have notable editors, over and above national average - namely User:Casliber and the assembled multitude who gather at the meetups JarrahTree 01:56, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: Daughter & family in WA.. Hence, the WA photos. Thanks again. I'll start adding some categories.. MargaretRDonald (talk) 03:22, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Haha I used to work in Sydney many many moons ago at fisher library at u of syd - get nostalgic about being paid to wander through the stack at fisher... JarrahTree 08:32, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi @JarrahTree: Could you show me how to add a project tags on the talk page. Just point me to an example, and I can follow your lead. Thanks, MargaretRDonald (talk) 05:59, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Easy - just check most of edits - (I tend to spend a lot of time adding them - for a specific western australian plant article - why not Eremophila maculata an interesting plant for some complex reasons - I am about to update/upgrade it as it is inadequately tagged -

however it is an extreme example - with an interesting coverage - but it gives you an idea what happens when on the article space - there are categories and text that assert the distribution - the tie in is to do the same in the project tag JarrahTree 06:24, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Greek words

I saw you asked a question about Greek letters/words on another editor's talk page. Perhaps I can help you. There are two different ways of achieving this.

• One solution is to install a Greek keyboard on your computer. How to do this depends on what kind of computer you use, whether it is a full-fledged Mac or PC, a tablet, telephone... Then you just switch to the Greek keyboard while you are typing the Greek text.
• Another solution is to use a function inside Wikipedia. Perhaps not quite as elegant, but independent of platform. At the top of the editing window you will find the choice "Special characters". There you can choose "Greek" (or "Greek extended" if you need more sophisticated possibilities). Then you just point at the letters you need.

Happy editing στα Ελληνικά. --T*U (talk) 11:57, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

I see that T*U has answered your question. There is a third (maybe too obvious to mention!) way of adding Greek text, namely to copy and paste the text from some other online source. --Macrakis (talk) 23:02, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi @TU-nor: & @Macrakis:, Thank you both for your help (Very helpful) MargaretRDonald (talk) 02:58, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

ext links in text

Is strongly discouraged - with WP:MOS often quoted when being reverted - or turned into refs. viz Velleia_paradoxa - wherever possible it should be either made into a ref or footnote JarrahTree 12:42, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi@JarrahTree: Thanks for that. (Spent a couple of useful hours reading WP:MOS and then finally realised that your message contained everything. I think I have now pulled out the inline references, and made a collections map... MargaretRDonald (talk) 09:13, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

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Sydney meetup

Hi Margaret. I'm contacting you because I understand you attended the most recent Sydney meetup in January. I'm a Wikimedian from Perth, and a member of the Perth meetup group. I will be visiting Sydney on the weekend of 26-27 May, and I'm interested in organising a meetup. Are you available to attend? I'm assuming that the preferred time would be the Saturday evening (26 May), but I could also make it earlier in the day, or on the Sunday during the day. If there's enough interest, I'll create a new page and ping a few other Sydney-based editors. Bahnfrend (talk) 12:40, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

@Bahnfrend: (I didn't manage to get to the Sydney meetup). My preference is always for midday. Evenings are just too difficult. So Saturday or Sunday midday somewhere (presumably in the heart of the city) would suit me well. MargaretRDonald (talk) 19:34, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

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Reference segregator

Pleased to meet you today..... see User:PleaseStand/References segregator for the tool I spoke about. Regards, Ariconte (talk) 05:04, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

@Ariconte: Likewise, Richard.. (Thanks, for this. I had spotted it on your userpage and secreted in on mine for further exploration, before our meeting. (looks a handy tool). Regards, MargaretRDonald (talk) 05:14, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Chellapilla Venkata Rao

Hello, MargaretRDonald. I wanted to let you know that I’m proposing an article that you started, Chellapilla Venkata Rao, for deletion because I don't think it meets our criteria for inclusion. If you don't want the article deleted:

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Terry Macfarlane et al

@MargaretRDonald:, I enjoyed our Sydney lunchtime meetup yesterday. I couldn't help looking for more to include on Terry Macfarlane and hope you approve. I will work through the entries on other botanists you've created articles about, using @Ariconte:'s references segregator, to see what else I can add! Regards, --Oronsay (talk) 20:26, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

@Oronsay: Thanks for that. Really helpful. (the only reason I've put stuff up about botanists is that it is irritating not knowing at least something about Bryan Alwyn Barlow, Tony Rodd and old-uncle-tom-cobley and all, when their names pop up continually as authors of species.) So I usually whack up some of the species they may have authored +- some of their published articles, just to get a minimal something going. MargaretRDonald (talk) 20:57, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Page stalker - please note that when you do start/upgrade botanists - please, try hauling out a good bibliographic treasure chest for each - seems some cannot cope with small sets of refs... JarrahTree 14:47, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Margaret, I have also made you a reviewer so hopefully you won't need to have other folks review your articles. Reviews (as most people would understand the term) take place at WP:PR Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:32, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

@Casliber: Thanks for that...Now I have to learn what to do! (All good fun.) Regards MargaretRDonald (talk) 03:21, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

Also, if you create or expand five-fold an article, it can be eligible for WP:DYK. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:54, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

@Casliber: Thanks for that. (Not sure, though, how a non-existent article can be increased five-fold...) Cheers, MargaretRDonald (talk) 22:10, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

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well done

you appear to have been given a whole baggage of rights today - a well recognised user - well done - JarrahTree 14:26, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, @JarrahTree:. Now I need to start to learn how to use them... Currently no idea. MargaretRDonald (talk) 10:15, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

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The correct link to the discussion is Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Chellapilla_Venkata_Rao--Oronsay (talk) 04:40, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

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Category:Electronic florae

A couple of comments about this edit where you added Category:Electronic Florae to State Herbarium of South Australia. For one thing, you should only add categories that describe that actual article - so in this case a herbarium is not a flora, even if it is involved in making one, you'd only add that category to an article about a flora. As a general comment, category names take sentence case, so the F should not be capitalised - see WP:Categorisation. Per WP:REDNOT you shouldn't add red-linked categories, either create the category or don't add it. And if you had created it and tried to categorise it you would have found that one parent category is Category:Florae (publication) so for consistency it ought to be Category:Electronic florae. But since we already have Category:Online botany databases I would have just used that - I know they're not quite the same thing as a flora, but they're close enough for these purposes. Sorry to bombard you with all this, hopefully it is helpful. Cheers. Le Deluge (talk) 12:54, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi @Le Deluge: Thanks for all that. I sort of think I have a glimmering of what you are saying.. (You'll probably need to keep monitoring me on this issue, until I finally get your drift..) Regards, and thanks, MargaretRDonald (talk) 19:10, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Strange user page layout

Hi -

I removed * [[fr:Isaac Newton]] and * [[sv:Isaac Newton]] from your user page.

They were showing up in the left column as if they were different language versions of you user page..... I don't know why this was happening but don't think it was what you intended.

Regards, Ariconte (talk) 08:09, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, Ariconte. Good move. I was experimenting with how to get foreign wikipedia pages. MargaretRDonald (talk) 09:01, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)@Ariconte: That's how they are meant to work, they are how you add interwiki links to a page. If you just want to link to one inline, use a colon - eg [[:fr:Isaac Newton]] gives the link fr:Isaac Newton. In fact adding a colon in front is the way to stop most kinds of special links from doing their special thing so that you can link to them, so for instance. [[Category:Flora]] would normally add this page to the category, whereas [[:Category:Flora]] gives you the clickable link Category:Flora. (and the <nowiki></nowiki> tags strip all cleverness away so you can display them as above) Le Deluge (talk) 13:01, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi @Le Deluge: Thanks for that. It's a question I have been asking myself for a while. MargaretRDonald (talk) 19:13, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for the education ... I knew about the Catagory use but thought the :fr etc. was a interpretor defect. Regards, Ariconte (talk) 20:46, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

regions always help

Acanthocarpus_canaliculatus - where at all possible viz our current biota parameters - flora/ibra/beard whatever - regions always give more credence... the map at https://florabase.dpaw.wa.gov.au/browse/profile/1205 gives us https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swan_Coastal_Plain - and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geraldton_Sandplains - just a thought, but helluva better than no specific - west oz is a bloody big place, at the best of times JarrahTree 09:26, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: I was just being lazy. (I did put in a link to the AVH distribution map, though) MargaretRDonald (talk) 09:30, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

no big deal - it is always worth the effort and keeps the flies away JarrahTree 09:32, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, it is also always a marvellous incentive for the IBRA red links to be fixed - they have been all too red for too long JarrahTree 12:06, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

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DYK for Cochlospermum fraseri

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You seem to get notifications frequently regarding links to dab pages you have added to articles. Personally, I've enabled a gadget that displays links to dab pages as orange instead of blue that you might like to consider trying. It makes it very easy to see them while viewing an article or preview. In your preferences, under the "Gadgets" tab, it's the fifth item from the bottom of the "Appearance" section. Hope this helps, and happy editing. —Compassionate727 ^(T·C) 22:44, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, (T That's very thoughtful of you. MargaretRDonald (talk) 22:49, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Library

As discussed: Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Library. —Sam Wilson 03:56, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi @Samwilson:. Thanks for this. (For some reason I didn't notice it yesterday and I was left wondering about it.) MargaretRDonald (talk) 21:48, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

12 years of not capturing the full scope

The biota material is usually project tagged by people who are neither.... oh dear one cannot say that on wiki... lots of tidying up put it that way.... JarrahTree 05:23, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

the totality of the challenge faces us like a bloody mastodon with bad breath -https://tools.wmflabs.org/enwp10/cgi-bin/list2.fcgi?run=yes&projecta=Australian_biota&importance=Unknown-Class JarrahTree 06:00, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Then all the proximity issues arise like a tibetan mastif with dental issues - all the adjacent projects have missing teeth everywhere JarrahTree 06:44, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Would you like to give an example so that I can start to understand what you mean here? I am not sure what the problem (of the "full scope") is... MargaretRDonald (talk) 21:41, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

ah others have struggled with my allusive tangential expressions, you are not the first...

Biota - the ideal scope/totality would be all plant/animal articles in the australian project to be captured by the scope of the biota project - but many eds in the old days only put 'australia' on the talk page (including self) - thus:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Australia_portals

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Australia

does not even go into the range of detail that would capture sub branches of knowledge

at least https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Australia-related_WikiProjects does

but then https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Australian_biota_articles identifies over 16k

then to follow from that the assessment table identifies less than actual that number...

https://tools.wmflabs.org/enwp10/cgi-bin/table.fcgi?project=Australian_biota

but if we look to see whether anyone has the slightest interest - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Unknown-importance_Australian_biota_articles

indicates that 13k have not been assessed... in relation to the importance scale in the project assessment

and a norman gunston aka random sample test yesterday of less than 10 articles or categories that are linked

show that there is an unknown unknown of articles and categories that logically exist within the domain of the biota project that have not been caught by a tag on the talk page...

So in my rather mathematically challenged perception of the notion of scope - the biota project scope in numerical terms is there could well be a domain/territory of a probably 20k article/item project that is not yet developed in either assessment or claiming articles as being related.

Hope the further confusion re my comment is clarified sufficiently confusedly. JarrahTree 00:03, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. However, I think it would be worthwhile to enlist the help of someone who is good with bots. I went to Category:Unknown-importance Australian biota articles the very first article of which (Talk:Abantiades albofasciatus ) has been rated of low importance in all(?) of the groupings with which it was associated. So there needs to be an automatic way of cleaning up Category:Unknown-importance Australian biota articles.... which should be relatively easy for those who write code which automatically assigns hidden categories to the articles I write: in particular, the moment the importance has been assigned, the above category should be removed!! (Surely if an article is categorised as project Australia}|biota=yes|importance=low then it has indeed been assessed and should not appear on this list.. See, e.g., Talk:Abantiades albofasciatus) MargaretRDonald (talk) 02:15, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

we both know that if we had a few eds regularly adding material about moths, trees and etc - that the 20k would be probably a very slight estimation and it could be bigger - the uncaught aspects of the biota field is the link you gave last - the moths - which leads to inadequately tagged items... it is endless... I am certain a concerted attempt to catch items not yet appropriately tagged simply improves the whole idea of the biota cleanup - there are items from the deep dark past that have not been included yet... JarrahTree 03:46, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

thanks

non verbal manner of thanks for the encouraging talk the other day... I have given up on barnstars now:

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Hopefully self explanatory biota collection (maybe), I left Palmyra (Syria) out and left Vienna in, apparently the EC is about to destroy the internet as we knew it, it seems... JarrahTree 11:23, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks @JarrahTree: (Gallery much nicer. I find Barnstars singularly unattractive. MargaretRDonald (talk) 11:33, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

inspiring discussion - has my very divergent thinking even more divergent ! will probably draw on my resource of various photos of odd things as a way of saying thanks, gday and similar whatevers... JarrahTree 12:13, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Me too

Hello Margaret - thanks for the range maps on Calectasia species - they're great. Sorry I missed you at the last meetup. Gderrin (talk) 02:46, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

No worries. (I like a range map and they were nice articles...) MargaretRDonald (talk) 03:39, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Homestead

Not sure what the process is in that situation - not sure it's possible to formally use an email as a source in that way.

Still great to have it correct, though - better to be right and someone can come along and add a formal source later in my book. The Drover's Wife (talk) 06:49, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Billardia article

Hi, I’ve just checked the link again, and it seems correct - i.e. it is the RHS citation showing that the plant has indeed won the AGM. I’m at a loss to understand how the same link can be pointing you elsewhere! Obviously this plant is nothing but bad news for Australia, something it has in common with many alien species that have found their way on to Ozzie soil. I have no idea whether the plant is particularly troublesome in its native habitat. Regards Darorcilmir (talk) 09:05, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Hi @Darorcilmir: I'll try the link again... (And no there is no problem in WA. Just bad news in VIC & SA.) MargaretRDonald (talk) 09:27, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Finally spotted. (A tiny little symbol to the right of the name!!) MargaretRDonald (talk) 09:33, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

I think B. heterophylla will be tricky to improve given confusiion over names etc. Will take another look later. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:02, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

@Casliber: Agreed. Agreed (the taxonomy/phylogeny ssems to be a real mess) Thanks for thinking about it. MargaretRDonald (talk) 22:21, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Maireana eponymy

Hello MargaretRDonald, the genus Maireana was described by Moquin in 1840. So it cannot be named in honor of René Maire, who was born much later in 1878. It could be more probably named after the French botanist Charles Antoine Lemaire (1801–1871), who was working at Paris (=Lutetia) at the same time like Moquin, see Moquin's publication. --Thiotrix (talk) 12:41, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

In Plant genera named after people (1753-1853) by JOSE A. MARI MUT (2017), I found this: "Maireana: for Maire, botanist, had a large herbarium rich in Parisian (Lutetian) plants which, due to his advanced age, he donated in 1866 to Ernst Cosson. Source: original publication (Chenopodearum Monographica Enumeratio, p. 95. 1840). See also Actes du Congres International de Botanique term a Paris en Aout 1867... p. 235-336. 1867." Kind regards, --Thiotrix (talk) 15:55, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

@Thiotrix: Yes I found that too, (in the Latin of Moquin's original description) and didn't notice the date discrepancy!! So, do you think we can confidently describe it as honouring Lemaire? MargaretRDonald (talk) 22:09, 8 July 2018 (UTC) I see the article on Lemaire does indeed describe Maireana as being named in his honour. MargaretRDonald (talk) 22:14, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

@Thiotrix: Thanks for reading so carefully, Regards, MargaretRDonald (talk) 23:53, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

In FloraBase, Lemaire is given as the eponymy. But Lemaire was usually cited as "Lemaire", and not as "Maire". Additionally, Maireana is not mentioned as an eponym of Lemaire in "Taxonomic Literature". So José A. Mari Mut, p. 364 could be right, that "Maire" may refer to a different French botanist and collector. Kind regards, --Thiotrix (talk) 05:55, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

@Thiotrix: I think your first instinct was correct. The dates do not stack up. Lemaire's botanic abbreviation is Lem. (but I think a lot of this was mostly formalised well after 1840, and the Le is a particle which was often dropped (see the entry immediately after Maireana in Jose Mari Mut José A. Mari Mut, p. 364) I am inclined to take Florabase as the more reliable source. MargaretRDonald (talk) 22:33, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

This also raises questions about the unsourced comment in René Maire on the epithet mairei. MargaretRDonald (talk) 22:33, 9 July 2018 (UTC) Perhaps we should reference this discussion on René Maire and Charles Antoine Lemaire to open it to a wider mob? MargaretRDonald (talk) 22:36, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

You could ask directly at the Herbarium in Paris P. They may have archives of their collectors, and probably know for sure, if the collector Maire of Herb. Cosson is identical with Charles Antoine Lemaire. --Thiotrix (talk) 18:19, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Hi @Thiotrix:. Brilliant suggestion. Thanks very much. I will. Regards, MargaretRDonald (talk) 00:17, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

Appreciation

Great work. I really admire u. In today's fast pace life, no body is caring for correct usage of English. But u took care & made it proper. Hat'soff to u. Thank u very much Sri Harsha 12:59, 27 July 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MKS Harsha (talk • contribs)

Hi @MKS Harsha: No worries. (I find incorrect English difficult to read, and one of the nice things about Wikipedia is that I can fix some of the English while reading about things I want to know about.) I had passed the same statue of Arjuna that is featured in the article and wanted to know a little about him. MargaretRDonald (talk) 21:12, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

small favour

When I saw hakea spathulata was a red link, got tempted, but, 2014 it got changed by turner describing it into neospathulata - I have photographed it a few times - but seem to have lost where neospathulata flowering time and colour is - I am sure the current part of the article is very wrong - please - where did I lose a flowering and colour info but? any thoughts ? JarrahTree 00:44, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Hi @JarrahTree: http://www.anbg.gov.au/abrs/online-resources/flora/stddisplay.xsql?pnid=45924 has Hakea auriculata flowering from June-Novermber, bu when the subspecies (now species) flowers is not clear: As you would have seen Florabase gives no flowering times and the species was described too late for flora of Australia online. I am still farting around checking out the primary references so I may find an answer. In the meantime the flora of australia link would give a reasooable partial description, particularly if you feel tempted to use the key. Cheers, MargaretRDonald (talk) 22:58, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Hi @JarrahTree: The description by Barker allows a reasonable description of the plant but still no flowering times. (And not in Turner either) Perhaps Bentham might give them but I doubt it... So you may be out of luck on this but Barker should be useful. Links to Pdf are now given in the article. Cheers, MargaretRDonald (talk) 00:01, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

I am 90% sure I have pictures of the flower taken in the beelu national park either in my collection or commons - it is a red to maroon colour, and you addition of the Barker taxonomy part of the article is brilliant and much appreciated - thank you JarrahTree 00:03, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

Now I am trying to get a handle on oz biota - there are categories that do not even include australia in category talk pages - even when they are endemic! arrgggghhh JarrahTree 00:44, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Melbourne Girls Grammar

Please source the claim that it was previously known as Melbourne Church of England Girls' Grammar School. And if you do source and re-add it please don't just add the initialism without mentioning what the letters stand for,. "MCEGGS" is not self explanatory. Meters (talk) 22:50, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

your turn...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kensington_Bushland_Reserve - JarrahTree 10:19, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Only too happy, @JarrahTree: MargaretRDonald (talk) 21:13, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

thanks for that - it needs more text at some stage but no rush JarrahTree 23:50, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Better to go the other way around

try creating from the wikipedia side we now have two...

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q56192005

Will get someone to merge/delete mine at some point.

Create data links from the wikipedia side, if you need a walk through, can do that for you

Broun item has a good library level description (ie the trove entry) of research re the swan coastal plain and the gnangara mound as far as i could see from a very brief glimpse

Unlikely to get my hands on in the short term - Keighery B.J. and Trudgen, M.E. (1992). The Remnant Vegetation of the Eastern Side of the Swan Coastal Plain. Unpublished report to the Department of Conservation and Land Management for the National Estate Grants Program.

there might be likelihood of some sort of linkage with [1] and [2] - or not... JarrahTree 00:28, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: Why don't you just go ahead and delete the wikidata item for Kensington Bushland...? MargaretRDonald (talk) 00:41, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

neither an admin or tweaker on data - will ask my friends there - its a jungle in there - yours is a better entry JarrahTree 00:44, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Given that the article links to the wikidata item Kensington Bushland Reserve and takes its automatic mapping from there, my preference is to delete the wikidata item Kensington Bushland, but it really is not an issue, it can serve as an alias just as earlier species names still have wikidata entries, so it doesn't pose a problem. MargaretRDonald (talk) 00:48, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

granddaughter day - the weather is nice probably wont be near computer for rest of day - cheers JarrahTree 01:04, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: No worries. Have a great day. MargaretRDonald (talk) 01:18, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

hmm thats another challenge - the whole bush forever thing - another neglected aspect of reserves in the west oz articles JarrahTree 02:38, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

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hope that

this is less cryptic or allusive or elusive than my explaining other things

what you have in your sandbox does link with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gingin_scarp, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eneabba_sandplain and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dandaragan_plateau in terms of geological explanation of the issues of north of the perth basin however the geological explanation and linkage was not higlighted when creating them - more a case of attaching minor plant issues... sigh JarrahTree 00:08, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

when I read on the north by a subsidiary fault running north-west from Bullsbrook - is how I make the connection with the above items JarrahTree 00:30, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

(I have a lot of paraphrasing,rewriting, etc before that article sees the light of day....) MargaretRDonald (talk) 09:31, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

went to the western side gate at the reserve after my voluntary work this afternoon - its just across the road from where my father used to meet up with his ag department vet surgeons friends and when jarrah road was a through road...JarrahTree 13:50, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

http://pandora.nla.gov.au/pan/25017/20030327-0000/www.aciar.gov.au/publications/proceedings/104/PR104/paper14.html looks interesting

JarrahTree 16:20, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Some great resources there. Thanks very much. (I think it all probably should go into the Swan Coastal Plain, with internal references digging deep down.). Still need to write the damned thing, as opposed to collecting sources. It would be great to get a public domain map... MargaretRDonald (talk) 21:17, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

my problem - every time someone links a name of an australian plant - a quick check either not australia, or no biota, or biota-importance - its more than I can do in one lifetime I think - to catch up to square one... JarrahTree 23:31, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

got rid of the speedy delete item - msgs only on talk page never on main space even when it seems to make sense JarrahTree 00:46, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Sydney meetup

There will be a meetup in Sydney on the 12 of September. More info at Wikipedia:Meetup/Sydney/September 2018. Bidgee (talk) 10:00, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

There might be a glitch in the stuff - let bidgee know JarrahTree 00:38, 4 September 2018 (UTC) There is a wikipedia seminar at the State Library from 9:30 an-4:00 pm (with the afternoon session no longer available -too few places. I put in a bid to get the room shifted to something which might accommodate more people. At this point my plan is to to see what transpires. (And if I manage to get crammed into the afternoons session, then the timing of Bidgee's meetup is OK.) MargaretRDonald (talk) 00:51, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

wow

very impressed by your hard work - very impressed, the Australian biota field is being enriched and made so much better by your involvement! Thanks!!! JarrahTree 03:48, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, @JarrahTree: MargaretRDonald (talk) 06:02, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

OSM maps

Would you be able to hold off on doing these and have a discussion about them first? I totally see the usefulness of the map content, but cutting the map out of the infobox and replacing it with something roughly stuck on the bottom looks very ugly. It would be amazing if they could be integrated into the infobox - but mass-replacing them before asking that question isn't a good solution in my book - and IMO they're of dubious value if they can't be integrated. The Drover's Wife (talk) 05:03, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

@The Drover's Wife: Sorry, just finished when I got your note... They can be integrated into the infobox when the infobox is a park see e.g., Kings Park, Western Australia, or if the infobox is an Italian commune, (see Bolzano), but somehow the Sydney suburbs infobox doesn't allow the maplink parameter. Obviously it would be sensible to ask someone to work on the suburb infobox to allow them to be integrated. But in my opinion, being there is useful, 1) because it makes people see the need for action, and 2) because they are the more useful maps. (Those huge statewide maps with just a point, are in my opinion, pretty useless.) All of this just takes time. And even though you find them ugly (while I find them informative), I hope you will leave them, until a better solution is found. I am sorry you find them ugly. Perhaps you know someone who will be able to help? MargaretRDonald (talk) 05:17, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

See the conversation at the AWNB - there are at least two Australian editors who actually turn up to conversations on the talk page who would be qualified to explain the issues - JarrahTree 06:46, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Black Armada

Thanks for your edits on Black Armada—I just wanted to check if the quote you added is a passage from Rupert Lockwood's book (i.e. a quote from him) or someone else? If so, can you add the attribution in addition to the citation (I suggest using the Template:Quote template)? Cheers, --Canley (talk) 00:45, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

The quote template gives a splendid result. Thanks. MargaretRDonald (talk) 07:43, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

@Canley: Thanks (I find the whole story utterly rivetting). I'll try using the template you suggest in future. However, the quote has the reference given within the block quote section, so in my innocence I thought I had managed to attribute the quote quite unequivocally to Lockwood (Black Armada, 1975). IMargaretRDonald (talk) 00:55, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

So do I! I wrote the article after seeing the exhibition at the National Maritime Museum, and realising there was no mention of the incident on Wikipedia. In fact, there is quite a lack of content on the whole NEI government-in-exile in Australia, so I started a few other articles such as Netherlands Indies Government Information Service. I've added the context of the quote and the template, hope you don't mind. --Canley (talk) 03:34, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

@Canley: Very happy. I must have bought Black Armada (at an ALP conference) when it came out. I loved the book then, and still do... If you feel inclined to write Netherlands East Indies Government-in-exile, I would be delighted. Meanwhile, I am still fiddling. (It's a very frustrating book: once he has set a date at the beginning of a chapter, the best you get is that something happened on the "24 September", and so I completely got the dates wrong for the Tanah Merah prisoners arriving in Oz.. MargaretRDonald (talk) 03:43, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

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the CSd set

CSD set - It can be in the pull down menu - and G7 looks as good as any JarrahTree 23:18, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: Thanks, Tom. (A bit more explanation would be helpful - I have no idea what you are talking about!!!) Cheers, MargaretRDonald (talk) 23:43, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

If you are in wA - a meetup over coffee and Ill show you all... JarrahTree 23:48, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

or if you are not - then https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Twinkle is worth enabling in your preferences - gadgets... JarrahTree 23:51, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

I have to drop off the girls at school & pick them up at 3pm. So morning would suit. Perhaps 11 am somewhere? The library? MargaretRDonald (talk) 23:53, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

done ie library coffee shop 11 amJarrahTree 23:55, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

See you there MargaretRDonald (talk) 00:19, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

more likely 11.30 at this stage due to a delaying issue JarrahTree 01:47, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Evad37/rater is well worth looking at JarrahTree 04:34, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

lead sentences should have specific location of distribution where ever possible - that then facilitates the project tagging on the talk page to a specific state or area... JarrahTree 03:14, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

as an example - from the text or the lead - in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribonanthes could be in a mexican desert for all we know JarrahTree 03:21, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

endangered

in my rather peripatetic wanderings in the mysteries of the plants project I have realised that most australian endangered species had been deemed low for everything - I have ventured, dare I say, to change that. Considering the relative small populations of some, they seem to, from the reading of the info, deserve more than low importance... please feel free to challenge my assertions at any of the said items. Thanks. JarrahTree 06:58, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: I am happy for you to do whatever you wish on this. Cheers, MargaretRDonald (talk) 21:14, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

so

today on the conversation and the link in the abc - there is a list of threatened butterflys

https://theconversation.com/next-time-you-see-a-butterfly-treasure-the-memory-scientists-raise-alarm-on-these-26-species-159798

big problem is the first, third, - has the article about the genera not the species - getting closer, but no cigar, perhaps... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oreisplanus_munionga about to check the 26, but this is where our biota material sadly lacks articles specific

sad JarrahTree 08:32, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: You are telling me. No references. Alink which took you nowhere. I am weary of looking at totally inadequate articles.. MargaretRDonald (talk)

you too - I stopped at 4 in the list - its hard to know where to start, if ever... JarrahTree 10:58, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

@JarrahTree:.I created two wikidata items: d:Q106643104, d:Q106643146 (one for the first species, and one for the article which first described it), and then went hunting for Argynnis hyperbius inconstans on the IUCN redlist (not there). I may continue with the wikidata, because at least I found the first butterfly on the Australian Faunal directory. MargaretRDonald (talk) 21:20, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Now had a crack at Jalmenus eubulus and its wikidata.... But I have forgotten how to put in VU for QLD and CR for NSW (or vice versa). Could you perhaps have a go at that? MargaretRDonald (talk) 22:12, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

And the third on the list (entirely new wikidata item) d:Q106645113. 38% prob. Who is interested in butterflies? MargaretRDonald (talk) 03:38, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #466

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Events
  • Past: Wikidata+Wikibase office hour happened on April 28th. See notes here (English).
  • Upcoming: International Museum Day, May 3-18, including a Wikidata competition
  • Upcoming: Basics about SPARQL queries live on Twitch and in French by Vigneron, May 4 at 18:00 CEST
  • Upcoming: Scholia - Open Bibliometrics for Researchers webinar on Zoom, May 5 at 10h30 UTC (free, but registration needed)
  • Upcoming: LIVE Wikidata editing #42 - YouTube, Facebook, May 8
  • Upcoming: Online Wikidata meetup in Swedish #61, May 9
  • Upcoming: the next Wikidata bug triage hour will take place on May 17th on the topic of quality constraints
  • Upcoming: Wikimedia Hackathon, May 22-23. The call for proposals for the program is now open until May 9th for the main track (May 19th for the open rooms) More information

• Press, articles, blog posts, videos
  • Blogs
    • WBStack Infrastructure - current deployment and architecture of wbstack.com
  • Videos
    • Mix'n'match workshop in (Italian) - YouTube
    • SPARQL #Wikidata back to basics (in French) - YouTube
    • Wikidata Lab XXVIII: Metadata applications (a technical training on the process of metadata applications development) - YouTube
    • Upload workshop (in Dutch) - datacleaning, reconciliation, upload, embed metadata with exiftool & Upload images with Pattypan and link with Wikidata.
    • LIVE Wikidata editing #42 - YouTube, Facebook
    • Overview of all LIVE Wikidata editing episodes including topics and tools used to make search easier

• Tool of the week
  • Wikinegata is a platform for browsing interesting negations about Wikidata entities. (Overview video)

• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • Template:Item classification and Template:Item documentation now include more generic queries for classes: it include the number of subclasses, the number of instances, the number of instances by class, the list of instances and the list of most frequent properties for items of this class.
  • TP organization now includes generic queries for items of class school.
  • Over 3,000,000 usages of taxon name (P225)

• Did you know?
  • Newest properties:
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    • External identifiers: LMIC musician ID, DC Books store book ID, ctext data entity ID, SAIA authority ID, AdServio school ID, Apple Music label ID, MacArthur Fellows Program ID, Encyclopedia of China Online Database ID, DHLE, APA Dictionary of Psychology entry, Scholarpedia article ID, Biology Online Biology Dictionary entry, Biblioteca di Santa Sabina ID, Biblioteche della Custodia di Terra Santa a Gerusalemme ID, Universal equine life number, Auschwitz Prisoners Database ID, Nevada SHPO marker ID, Sigla ID, Bing Entity ID, light characteristic, Lexikon der österreichischen Provenienzforschung ID, Identificativo Polo bibliografico della Ricerca, LTit person ID
  • Query examples:
    • List number of albums (Q482994) by language (P407) in descending order (Source)
    • Map of Scottish council areas (Source)
    • Databases with a SPARQL endpoint, sorted by number of ids known by Wikidata (Source)
    • List of actors and actresses who died during 2020 (Source)
  • Newest database reports: new screenwriters

• Development
  • Entity Schemas now have syntax highlighting for viewing (phab:T238831, example)
  • Reviewing a patch that will make it possible to use templates on d:MediaWiki:Wikibase-SortedProperties. This will for example make it possible to show labels automatically for each Property ID. Thanks, Luca! (phab:T280787)
  • Evaluated the interviews and other research we did around improvements for lexicographical data
  • Worked on/fixed small remaining bugs in the Query Builder (phab:T280505, phab:T279928, phab:T279945)
  • Continuing to work on evaluating and addressing scaling issues of the Query Service
  • Provided input to a research team working on a potential new and improved Property Suggester
  • Wikibase: we are completing the final tasks necessary to prepare the Wikibase Spring release and expect to publish new versions of the tarball and Docker images on or before May 15, 2021

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

• Monthly Tasks
  • Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
  • Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
  • Suggested and open tasks!
  • Contribute to a Showcase item.
  • Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
  • Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
  • Help write the next summary!

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Wikidata weekly summary #466

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Events
  • Past: Wikidata+Wikibase office hour happened on April 28th. See notes here (English).
  • Upcoming: International Museum Day, May 3-18, including a Wikidata competition
  • Upcoming: Basics about SPARQL queries live on Twitch and in French by Vigneron, May 4 at 18:00 CEST
  • Upcoming: Scholia - Open Bibliometrics for Researchers webinar on Zoom, May 5 at 10h30 UTC (free, but registration needed)
  • Upcoming: LIVE Wikidata editing #42 - YouTube, Facebook, May 8
  • Upcoming: Online Wikidata meetup in Swedish #61, May 9
  • Upcoming: the next Wikidata bug triage hour will take place on May 17th on the topic of quality constraints
  • Upcoming: Wikimedia Hackathon, May 22-23. The call for proposals for the program is now open until May 9th for the main track (May 19th for the open rooms) More information

• Press, articles, blog posts, videos
  • Blogs
    • WBStack Infrastructure - current deployment and architecture of wbstack.com
  • Videos
    • Mix'n'match workshop in (Italian) - YouTube
    • SPARQL #Wikidata back to basics (in French) - YouTube
    • Wikidata Lab XXVIII: Metadata applications (a technical training on the process of metadata applications development) - YouTube
    • Upload workshop (in Dutch) - datacleaning, reconciliation, upload, embed metadata with exiftool & Upload images with Pattypan and link with Wikidata.
    • LIVE Wikidata editing #42 - YouTube, Facebook
    • Overview of all LIVE Wikidata editing episodes including topics and tools used to make search easier

• Tool of the week
  • Wikinegata is a platform for browsing interesting negations about Wikidata entities. (Overview video)

• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • Template:Item classification and Template:Item documentation now include more generic queries for classes: it include the number of subclasses, the number of instances, the number of instances by class, the list of instances and the list of most frequent properties for items of this class.
  • TP organization now includes generic queries for items of class school.
  • Over 3,000,000 usages of taxon name (P225)

• Did you know?
  • Newest properties:
    • General datatypes: field of usage, artist files at, accessibility statement URL, degrees day, Beirut Arab University's Libraries title ID
    • External identifiers: J! Archive player ID, CofE archives name ID, HERO ID, GLEI RAL, Archdiocese of Liverpool parish ID, Yukon Archives authority record ID, CofE archives place ID, NC Highway Historical Marker Program ID, National Historical Museums of Sweden agent ID, Australian Thesaurus of Education Descriptors ID, Enzyklopädie des europäischen Ostens ID, Reallexikon zur Deutschen Kunstgeschichte ID, Oregon Flora Image Project ID, Digital DISCI ID
  • New property proposals to review:
    • General datatypes: Clubhouse account, Danmarks Tekniske Kulturarv book ID, hat Gedenkort, Secondary Archive artist ID, date of probate
    • External identifiers: LMIC musician ID, DC Books store book ID, ctext data entity ID, SAIA authority ID, AdServio school ID, Apple Music label ID, MacArthur Fellows Program ID, Encyclopedia of China Online Database ID, DHLE, APA Dictionary of Psychology entry, Scholarpedia article ID, Biology Online Biology Dictionary entry, Biblioteca di Santa Sabina ID, Biblioteche della Custodia di Terra Santa a Gerusalemme ID, Universal equine life number, Auschwitz Prisoners Database ID, Nevada SHPO marker ID, Sigla ID, Bing Entity ID, light characteristic, Lexikon der österreichischen Provenienzforschung ID, Identificativo Polo bibliografico della Ricerca, LTit person ID
  • Query examples:
    • List number of albums (Q482994) by language (P407) in descending order (Source)
    • Map of Scottish council areas (Source)
    • Databases with a SPARQL endpoint, sorted by number of ids known by Wikidata (Source)
    • List of actors and actresses who died during 2020 (Source)
  • Newest database reports: new screenwriters

• Development
  • Entity Schemas now have syntax highlighting for viewing (phab:T238831, example)
  • Reviewing a patch that will make it possible to use templates on d:MediaWiki:Wikibase-SortedProperties. This will for example make it possible to show labels automatically for each Property ID. Thanks, Luca! (phab:T280787)
  • Evaluated the interviews and other research we did around improvements for lexicographical data
  • Worked on/fixed small remaining bugs in the Query Builder (phab:T280505, phab:T279928, phab:T279945)
  • Continuing to work on evaluating and addressing scaling issues of the Query Service
  • Provided input to a research team working on a potential new and improved Property Suggester
  • Wikibase: we are completing the final tasks necessary to prepare the Wikibase Spring release and expect to publish new versions of the tarball and Docker images on or before May 15, 2021

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

• Monthly Tasks
  • Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
  • Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
  • Suggested and open tasks!
  • Contribute to a Showcase item.
  • Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
  • Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
  • Help write the next summary!

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Lea Lacroix (WMDE) 12:58, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Books & Bytes – Issue 43

The Wikipedia Library

Books & Bytes
Issue 43, March – April 2021

• New Library Card designs
• 1Lib1Ref May

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of The Wikipedia Library team --11:12, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #467

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Events
  • Ongoing
    • Wikidata contest for International Museum from May 3-18 2021
  • Upcoming
    • OpenStreetMap TW x Wikidata Taiwan Taipei (Q1867) Meetup 2021-05-10
    • Basics about SPARQL queries live on Twitch and in French by Vigneron, May 11 at 18:00 CEST
    • Online Wikidata meetup in Swedish #62, May 16
    • Wikidata Bug triage hour about constraints, May 17
    • COSCUP 2021 Call For Papers now open
    • Wikimedia Taiwan x NCKUHis Digital humanities Wikidata Workshop National Cheng Kung University (Q706708), 2021-05-29 ~ 2021-05-31

• Press, articles, blog posts, videos
  • Blogs
    • WBStack setting changes, Federated properties, Wikidata entity mapping & more (covering some of the recent UI and setting changes that happened on WBStack in the past months by Addshore
    • Academic ancestor graphs from Wikidata
  • Papers
    • Roderic D. M. Page, Wikidata and the Bibliography of Life, doi:10.1101/2021.05.04.442638
    • Friederike Ehrhart, et al. Aresource to explore the discovery of rare diseases and their causative genes (Q106708178), doi:10.1038/S41597-021-00905-Y
  • Videos
    • SPARQL #Wikidata​ retour aux bases #3 - YouTube
    • Wikidata, Linked Data… all the data! Knowledge representation for everybody - YouTube
    • Wikidata Nigeria tutorials on YouTube - How to contribute to Wikidata, add statements for streets named after a person
    • SPARQL Wikidata tutorial (in Portuguese) - YouTube
    • LIVE Wikidata editing #42 - YouTube, Facebook

• Tool of the week
  • User:Nikki/Ranker.js adds a link to the Ranker tool next to every property on an entity page.

• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • The Wikibase spring release is now available! This new release is compatible with MediaWiki 1.35 and it contains new features: Federated Properties, WikibaseManifest & Wikibase Pingback.
  • May 2021 Query Builder updates: We finished usability testing of new features and incorporated feedback from users including people with visual impairments and RTL languages. It is now possible to query for dates and we're also looking into making the Query Builder discoverable from the Wikidata Query Service.
  • Template:Generic queries for filmmakers is a new wikidata template which defines generic SPARQL queries specific for filmmakers.
  • Template:Generic queries for occupations is a new wikidata template with generic queries for items of items such as occupations or professions
  • Wikimedia Foundation 2021 Board Elections has been announced. Please sign-up as an Election Volunteer if you'd like to support the elections. Election Volunteers serve as a bridge between the Elections Committee, the facilitation team and the movement.
• Did you know?
  • Newest properties:
    • General datatypes: Digital Atlas of Idaho URL, identifier shared with lexeme, audio transcription
    • External identifiers: MyBIS species ID, Beirut Arab University's Libraries title ID, Gardens of the Roman Empire ID, Ultime lettere di condannati a morte e di deportati della Resistenza italiana person ID, NBM authority ID, MileSplit ID, Mixcloud ID, Forbes (Russia) profile ID, am.hayazg.info ID, bridgesport.ru player ID, APA Dictionary of Psychology entry, The Draft Review ID, Nevada SHPO marker ID, IUCN Green List ID, National Association of Teachers of Singing member ID, Danmarks Tekniske Kulturarv book ID, Auschwitz Prisoners Database ID, Biology Online Biology Dictionary entry, Biblioteca di Santa Sabina ID, Senate of Romania person ID, Chamber of Deputies of Romania person ID, LMIC musician ID, Scholarpedia article ID, Historic Hawai‘i Foundation place ID, Digital Library of Armenian Literature author ID, Den Danske Ordbog article ID, Den Danske Ordbog idiom ID, OpenCorporates register ID, Biblioteche della Custodia di Terra Santa a Gerusalemme ID, IBSF competition ID, SAIA authority ID, Football Association of Norway Club ID, music austria ID, Secondary Archive artist ID
  • New property proposals to review:
    • General datatypes: official podcast, Danish redlist ID, Velocity Relative to Earth, athletics program, North Carolina session law
    • External identifiers: vedidk ID, MyBIS protected area ID, COG ID, Badok ID, Biographical Dictionary of Chinese Christianity person ID, DTB-Gerätturner-ID, Encyclopedia of Renaissance Philosophy ID, UK Renewable Energy Planning Database ID, University of Washington Campus Map ID, Australian Music Centre composer ID, Romanian Ministry of Foreign Affairs - diplomatic mission IDs, SOUNZ work ID, Canadian Music Centre Composer Showcase ID, Repositório da Produção USP Person ID, Online Archive of California finding aid ID, SOSBrutalism ID, Microlepidoptera.nl ID, OSDN project, SOR bird ID, Companies Registration Office (Ireland) Registration Number, ToateAnimalele ID, Muziekencyclopedie ID
  • Query examples:
    • List of French firms without SIREN id (P1616) ordered by number of sitelinks with search links in annuaire-entreprises‧data‧gouv.fr : the query makes it easy to find the SIREN number (P1616) (source Property talk P1616)
    • Number of works per year by researchers supervised by Lars Kai Hansen (source)
    • Count of sitelinks of Nigerians on Wikidata (Source)
    • 30 largest cities with female mayor (Source)
    • Recent locations of boundary stones in Upper Lusatia (see pictures by clicking on the dots) (Source)
    • Types of items in Australia that don't have identifier properties (Source)

• Development
  • Omaha-Ponca language is now available for monolingual text properties. (phab:T265296)
  • Added a meaningful error message when trying to use Special:EntityData with a Lexeme subentity like L123-F1 in cases where the Lexeme L123 was redirected to another Lexeme (phab:T257494)
  • Changed the “type” and “value type” constraints to ignore deprecated values (phab:T170401)
  • Working on rendering empty claims in JSON as `claims: {}` instead of `claims: []` (phab:T241422)
  • Investigating some issues with page_props missing on Commons wiki after adding sitelinks to Commons categories (phab:T280627)
  • Removed Google Knowledge Graph Id (P2671) and Wolfram Language entity code (P4839) from the Property Suggestions as they are usually not useful suggestions (phab:T280779)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

• Monthly Tasks
  • Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
  • Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
  • Contribute to a Showcase item.
  • Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
  • Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
  • Help write the next summary!

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Mohammed Sadat (WMDE) 13:22, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Re: COI and changes - Joanne Etheridge

Hi Thanks you for your response and for the changes to the above page. I am aware that Wikipedia pages are not the property of the subject but believe, not unreasonably, that they should describe the subject as accurately as possible. Regarding the choice of publications included in this page, a selection provide by the subject may have been more appropriate rather than a random choice. The link to Scholia is not always helpful as many people will not view beyond the main page. I will be adding a (copyright verified) photo to the page infobox in the near future.--Dunamis44 (talk) 04:21, 12 May 2021 (UTC)