Mar Isaac

Eastern Catholic Community of Hawaii

Are you the same editor as 66.91.116.188 ? If so, why did you delete all the wikilinks? They connected this article with others and were relevant. Futhermore, this community should be accessible from the diocese of Honolulu category. Finally, I would really prefer the okina in the text where appropriate. Gimmetrow 18:31, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

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I deleted the links to the Roman Catholic Diocese of Honolulu because we are not part of that diocese. We are Ukrainian Catholics – not Roman Catholics. That the boundaries of these two Catholic churches overlap is immaterial – our Eparchy also overlaps with the Ruthenian Catholics and the Melkite Catholics, etc. – should links to all particular churches within the Catholic Church that overlap with our Eparchy in the state of Hawaii be included? I don’t think so. Lastly, I did not realize that I had dropped the okina – will go back and restore it. Mar Isaac 19.13, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

You don't have to tell me about Ukrainian Catholic vs. Roman Catholic. But in any event, if I were doing an article on a Ukrainian church in (say) Boston, I would expect to see a link to the RC diocese of Boston. In this case, as far as I know, there aren't any other organized Eastern Churches in Hawaii except the Orthodox. Gimmetrow 19:18, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

I made a couple of very minor edits (of/in and Chicaco/Chicago), and also deleted the paragraph about Fr. Hal's resignation, his sabbatical and Fr. Karepin. The last are immaterial to our community - resignation of a RC post, short sabbatical, and a visiting priest on vacation who served a few (but much appreciated) Divine Liturgies during Fr. Hal's short absence. If I might inquire - the original material on this page raised much consternation and curiosity within our community - have you visited us and do we perhaps know you? In any event, God bless. Mar Isaac 20:03, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

I didn't write the original content of the article. I have visited, but rarely. You are correct that the story of Fr. Hal is not necessarily part of the story of St. Sophia, but a separate bio on Fr. Hal would be short. Short articles in this context are often merged together. (Often the bio of a diocesan bishop is covered in a paragraph in the article on the diocese.) I think it is somewhat notable that the current pastor is a retired former vicar forane of the RC diocese, and would like to see that included. I also think it would be helpful to have this article listed in the diocese of honolulu category; that functions as the category for all Catholics in Hawaii. But I'll let you handle it. Gimmetrow 20:26, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Hello again. Saw you editing. "See also" is for links to other wiki articles, off-site links go in an "External links" section. See WP:GTL for more information. Did www.stnicholaseparchy.org just come back online? I couldn't find it a couple days ago. Anyway, that brings me to a problem you might be able to help with. I have ecclesiastical heraldry up as a featured article candidate, but the two eastern images have copyright problems. Does anyone there have a public domain image of a coat of arms? A scan from a book published before 1923 would work, I think. Or maybe someone has the time and photoshop skills to make one? Thanks in advance. Gimmetrow 04:07, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

About all I could come up with was a very small greyscale image of the coat-of-arms of the Patriarch of Antioch. I've uploaded it and you should be able to get it here: http://home.hawaii.rr.com/jps64/files/Antioch2.jpg In the image, the two men are Peter & Paul, both prime movers in the early Antiochian community and the keys of course reference Peter being Bishop of Antioch before later becoming Bishop of Rome. Hope it helps. Isaac 00:00, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Where does the image come from? What is the copyright status? Is it from a public domain clip-art collection? If it's not public domain, or can't be released into public domain, it's probably not going to help. Gimmetrow 16:54, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

It is a thumbnail image of a much larger image (now lost) scanned some years ago from a piece of stationary. I've no idea what how/if copyright applies to a crest on stationary. Good luck. Mar Isaac

Yes, an image on stationary is generally copyrighted unless the copyright has been lost due to time or government rules. I was hoping you had access to some set of public domain images the eparchy might provide for setting up a web page, or some other public domain Catholic or Orthodox clip-art. Gimmetrow 22:52, 12 August 2006 (UTC)