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If you have any questions, feel free to ask me on my talk page. Thanks and happy editing, Alphax ^τεχ 08:14, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Nelen VfU

I have posted a request at WP:VFU. You may add further comments if you wish, but remember that vfu is oriented toward addressing errors in the process of deletion, not the content of the deleted articles. Ingoolemo ^talk 04:27, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Hi. Please accept my apology. I did not mean to make fun of you and if your article is undeleted and sent to a new vote you have my "keep" for the article. - Tεxτurε 21:16, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Neleh

Hey there. Just saw your last response on the VFU. Texture means well, he was just fooling around, Mahlerfan. He's trying to illustrate a point about an issue that has been a central question for Wikipedia and Wikipedians for a very long time—what should we allow to be included in this noble project of ours? Articles on anything and everything? There are some of us who believe that's the way to go—simply don't delete anything at all except perhaps vandalism. There are others who believe that an encyclopedia is not a receptacle for every concievable bit of data—there should be standards. Creating standards everyone agrees upon is hard to do, unfortunately, as is apparent from our history over the past 5000 years or so. At the moment, the core articlespace policies (WP:V, WP:NOR, WP:NPOV)seem adequate, but speaking personally I sometimes wonder if there is a less understood group of policies on WP. What Texture was trying to say is really that a minimalist interpretation of WP:V doesn't work, because it is possible today to provide some type of "verification" for the trivialest things in our lives (such as, famously, Texture's left shoe). If you'd like to stay and learn more (and I hope you do:) ), read the above links first, then WP:GAFD.It may help to understand what folks look for in an article. Finally your comment about the seeming unfairness of one Survivor article geting "voted off" whereas apparently less notable one stay is very understandable. I share in that frustration sometimes. The thing is, WP is now a megastructure of 750,000 individual articles. Many, perhaps most, are likely of poor standard (only 0.7% of WP articles currently hold the "Featured article" status, a mark of quality for WP). But it is impossible to coordinate which things in a particular subject deserve a place and which need to be deleted; for this reason all articles on WP are judged only on their own merits when they are nominated for deletion. Hope this helps. encephalon 21:29, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Re: Dick Bavetta--1998 NBA Finals

Sorry, I have to disagree with you on this point. There are missed calls all the time in sports...nothing is perfect. I don't believe this call is significant enough to include in the Dick Bavetta article since the call occurred in the first half of the game and the Jazz still had every opportunity to win the game. It was merely coincidence it was a one point difference. I just don't believe this meets WP:Notability criteria, sorry. I'm sure you could list every call a referee misses, but that doesn't make it notable. Since this came from a Rocky Mountain paper, there may be bias involved as well, which violates WP:NPOV. RyguyMN 22:14, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

If anything, I think the Jordan alleged push off at the end of the game is more controversial and notable than anything else about this game. RyguyMN 05:04, 17 August 2007 (UTC)