User talk:MSGJ/2022

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18:12, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Is Template:ITN candidate/note a duplicate of Template:ITN note?

{{ITN candidate/note}} appears to be a duplicate of {{ITN note}}. The former is new, and it has no transclusions. The latter is well established and used a lot. If they are the same, the newer, unused one should be deleted unless you have a plan for it. You can tag it with {{db-g7}}. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:00, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Looks like I was experimenting with auto time-stamps. The former is just a wrapper for the latter. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:04, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. Also, I can't find any links in wikitext in Template space to {{ITN candidate/preload credit}}, which seems to duplicate the functionality of {{ITN notice}}. If it is no longer used, it can also be tagged. There is a group of us working on cleaning up unused templates, in case you are curious how I stumbled upon these. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:06, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

That one is used by Template:ITN candidate/user — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:08, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

... and it is in use because it is called by Template:ITN candidate/article. There are no transclusions because it is substituted. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:07, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. My insource search failed to find it because the wikitext in the calling template uses an underscore. The joys and quirks of insource searching. I have documented those templates so that other editors are less likely to bug you with the same questions. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:21, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:21, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Three years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:12, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Railway stations in Ireland

Template:Railway stations in Ireland has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:17, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Category:Light characteristic different from Wikidata

Hi, this tracking category doesn't seem to be working too well - since it's populated by a line in an infobox, rather than a specific authority control/external link template, it includes quite a lot of junk (e.g., references in the infobox line) that are probably causing quite a lot of false positives. Is this tracking category worth keeping, or could the infobox code be improved to do the check better, or does it just need the infoboxes to be cleaned up? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:43, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi Mike! You're right. This was me playing around with Template:Wikidata alignment which is in its infancy. If I was going to use it seriously I would improve the code by stripping references and punctuation marks, etc. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 19:46, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

OK, any chance the code could be improved, or the tracking category removed? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 20:51, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

I removed those tracking categories from the template. If I use them again, I'll try and improve the code. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:10, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! Does that mean that Category:Light characteristic different from Wikidata‎, Category:Light characteristic equivalent to Wikidata‎, Category:Light characteristic not in Wikidata‎, and Category:Light characteristic same as Wikidata‎ could go? How about Category:Inception different from Wikidata‎, Category:Inception not in Wikidata‎, Category:Inception same as Wikidata‎? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 21:34, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Can you Change Flag of India with Corrected Color Code ?

File:Flag of India.svg which was uploaded in 2006 has wrong color code. Can you Replace it with Correct One ? I have Uploaded Accurate Flag File:Flag India.svg extracted from Prime Minister Office Website. Requesting you change it as you have done in French Flag. Swapnil1101 (talk) 12:34, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

I suggest you discuss this at Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:47, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Template:Lighthouse list contradicts WP:NAVNOREDIRECT?

Hi MSGJ. I notice that the introduction of {{Lighthouse list}} to {{Lighthouses of Queensland}} introduced a violation of WP:NAVNOREDIRECT – Yellow Patch Light is a redirect. I'm not saying this is critical, but it is visually annoying to see this violation without being able to resolve it. --Muhandes (talk) 10:28, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi Muhandes, thanks for dropping by. I am trying out this approach gradually and have not sought yet comments as I was just testing feasibility. I will of course seek consensus before rolling out to any great extent. I think there are numerous advantages of using wikidata to generate the links, for example they will auto-update if articles are moved or deleted. I can see the point you are making and this may be a slight disadvantage. I notice there is a sentence in the paragraph that you linked: where a redirect represents a distinct sub-topic within a larger article and is not merely a variant name, it is preferable to leave the redirect in the template. Does this apply to this case? One advantage of pointing to a redirect is that one day that article will be written and then the link will be correct. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:19, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

I don't especially like this idea of being dependent on Wikidata for wiki links as it does not give me any control on how I would like the template to look like. However, for this specific issue you probably have a point and this is a distinct sub-topic. I tend to ignore this exception to the rule and avoid the redirect completely because of the color coding but perhaps I am overzealous. --Muhandes (talk) 19:06, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Feel free to revert my changes on that template. It was a random selection and I had no idea you were monitoring it closely. I suspect the majority of navbox templates will not be curated and may benefit from this system more. Just curious though - what is this "color coding" you speak of? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:36, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

I'm using User:Anomie/linkclassifier, which I seriously recommend to any editor. It colors redirects in a different color so they pop out. --Muhandes (talk) 19:21, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Is it okay if I can talk to you about this?

This is regarding the copy of the French flag on Wikimedia Commons. SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 19:48, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Request to help migrating lighthouse lists to use Wikidata

Hello! I noticed here that you've converted quite a few "List of lighthouses in [Country]" to use the Wikidata table template, and I was wondering whether you'd like some help migrating similar pages to use the Wikidata table template? I'm quite a new Wikipedia contributor (though I've done some editing and querying on Wikidata before) and would like to help with the consolidation of data into Wikidata. I just thought I'd ask before editing, as there may be a reason I'm unaware of as to why the other articles have not been converted over. Excited to hear your thoughts! Veyndan (talk) 20:19, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

The main reason is that it is quite a time-consuming process and there is a limit to what I can do! But I would be happy to help or at least to steer you in the right direction. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:35, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for the offer — that's very kind! If you have the time, would you mind reviewing my changes to List of lighthouses in Saint Helena? I made some edits on to make it use Wikidata (and I also tidied up the column headers in a separate change). I had to add all the lighthouses to Wikidata, but I'm a bit concerned now as I'm assuming that "James Bay Range Lighthouse" is its own lighthouse, and "Rear" and "Front" are just in reference to some differing characteristics of the same lighthouse. I'm not too sure how to model that in Wikidata though, but at least it's not a regression from the prior state of the article which had also listed them as separate lighthouses. Anyway, any improvements/constructive criticism would be greatly appreciated so I don't make the same mistakes for the next article. Thanks! Veyndan (talk) 13:33, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

That looks good! I've added some more data to James Bay Range Front Lighthouse (Q110861677) so you can see the sorts of properties that can be used with lighthouses. Yes they are two separate lighthouses which guide ships when they are in line (see leading lights). I would encourage you to add references whenever possible. Rowlett calls the rear light Ladder Hill Range Rear and there are some details of another one at Chubbs Point. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:06, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Interesting, I had no idea about leading lights! I added quite a few references to things, updated the coordinates to reflect the ones in the NGA, and have also added Chubbs Point to the table.

Regarding the citations:

1. It appears that this citation and this citation are trying to refer to the same thing, with the former being more correct (as it actually links to the specific page) and the latter having better formatting. Is there a way to merge these two citations together somehow?

2. Would it make sense to remove this citation and this citation? They're just used on the first line of the Wikipedia article ("This is a list of lighthouses in Saint Helena."), which I don't think really needs citations. These citations are also duplicates of the other citations found in the table.

So we essentially have 5 references listed, but only 2 of them are unique. Veyndan (talk) 21:50, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

1. Yes, they should be two parts of the same reference. It's correct on wikidata but the module is not displaying is correctly. I'll see if anything can be done about that.

2. Sure, if you like, but they are the actually the best displayed references on the article, with author, publisher, retrieval date, etc. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:09, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Sounds good! I'll hold off on removing the references from the first line until the template spits out a similarly good one. I don't want to add any unnecessary regressions. Veyndan (talk) 22:54, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

I have also created Ladder Hill leading lights (Q110867887) — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:15, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Awesome! Veyndan (talk) 21:51, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

I'm just having a look at converting List of lighthouses in Togo over, but am having some issues finishing the creation of https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q110884002 as both sources state that there are two lights, and I'm not sure how to encode that in Wikidata for the light characteristics and range. Have you seen/added such a lighthouse to Wikidata before? Veyndan (talk) 23:02, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

References

Nomination for deletion of Template:WikiProject Women in Red category header

Template:WikiProject Women in Red category header has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 10:56, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Articles by Quality/col

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Please talk

What problem caused this revert? Now other problems appeared. Tomastvivlaren (talk) 20:25, 3 March 2022 (UTC) Tomastvivlaren (talk) 20:25, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Now I understand. It should pass the qid parameter on. Sorry, and thankyou.Tomastvivlaren (talk) 21:12, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Avataro Sentai Donbrothers

I answered your question regarding the reopening of the article at the talk section. Can you help me with it? (Exukvera (talk) 16:16, 1 April 2022 (UTC))

Replied there — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 19:43, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. (Exukvera (talk) 21:00, 1 April 2022 (UTC))

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22:53, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

broken cite q templates

Please fix the {{cite q}} citations in List of Polish mathematicians (here) and List of Brazilian mathematicians (here – also transcluded into List_of_Brazilians#Mathematicians; as an aside, that transclusion seems rather redundant).

The {{cite q}} template is:

{{cite q|Q237227}}

Brockhaus Enzyklopädie (in German), Wikidata Q237227

{{Citation |id=Wikidata Q237227 |language=de |title=Brockhaus Enzyklopädie |url=http://www.brockhaus.de/}}

You will note that |editor1= and |editor2= are not actual editors but are publishers – Bibliographisches Institut & F. A. Brockhaus is a publisher; at least so say our articles Bibliographisches Institut and F. A. Brockhaus. According to de:Wissen Media Verlag, that publisher ceased publishing in 2014. Still, |editor2=Wissen Media Verlag is wrong.

Further, this citation cites the entire Brockhaus Enzyklopädie to support one or a few mathematicians. Don't make our readers search an entire encyclopedia to verify our article content. Provide in-source locations.

The three articles are listed in Category:CS1 maint: multiple names: editors list and will remain there in perpetuity unless fixed. Why? Because normal en.wiki editors are not going to venture into wikidata even if they can figure out how to get there. cs1|2 put the articles into the cs1 maint category because wikidata returns the ampersand in Bibliographisches Institut & F. A. Brockhaus as an html entity:

{{#property:p98|from=Q237227}}

Please fix. Also, mind the {{warning}} box at the top of the {{cite q}} documentation

—Trappist the monk (talk) 16:27, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Söderskär Lighthouse

Hi, thanks for this edit; I didn't realise the template operates like that. Any idea why the map no longer works, though? Cheers, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:46, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Never mind, now it does work. It was clearly just waiting for me to ask that question and make myself look stupid. :) -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:47, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Yes it's a very clever template :) The map often has a delay before displaying, I'm not sure why that is — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:50, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. This is about your change to Template:Submit an edit request/preload, section is Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Some sort of edit request flooding. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:52, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Flag of France

Hello, I see you have updated the flag of france in january : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_France.svg But on wikimedia commons it is still the old version : https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_France.svg Can you update it ? Thanks for your work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WALKER0021 (talk • contribs) 20:08, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:World topic/country

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Nomination for deletion of Template:WikiProject Pakistan/taskforce

Template:WikiProject Pakistan/taskforce has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 14:06, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Padlock list

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Infobox lighthouse/ARLHS

Template:Infobox lighthouse/ARLHS has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 07:35, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Infobox lighthouse/shape

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Unused WPBannerMeta sub-templates

Hey, the following sub-templates are all listed in the unused template report. As the creator of most of these templates, can you check to see if these are still needed or if they can be deleted?

• Template:WPBannerMeta/Assessment link
  • Not transcluded but linked from 91 pages. Essentially this documents one of the parameters of the template.
• Template:WPBannerMeta/Conversion
  • Provides some useful historical context about the conversion of project banners to the meta-template. Could possibly be moved into Project space but not sure where ...
• Template:WPBannerMeta/core/doc
  • Not needed anymore.
• Template:WPBannerMeta/hooks
  • Required page. List of available additional hooks that can be used. Could possibly be moved into the /doc but probably clearer to leave as a separate page.
• Template:WPBannerMeta/hooks/bchecklist/syntax/doc
  • Not needed anymore.
• Template:WPBannerMeta/hooks/numerical ratings
• Template:WPBannerMeta/hooks/numerical ratings/criterion
  • Probably not needed anymore, suggest TfD.
• Template:WPBannerMeta/hooks/qualimpintersect/formats
  • Not needed anymore.
• Template:WPBannerMeta/substwarning
  • Required. Only used when template is incorrectly substituted.
• Template:WPBannerMeta/templatepage/checkextended
  • Not needed, I think.
• Template:WPBannerMeta/templatepage/checkimportance
  • Not needed, I think.
• Template:WPBannerMeta/templatepage/checknormal
  • Not needed, I think.
• Template:WPBannerMeta/templatepage/editintro
  • Still in use as an editintro template
• Template:WPBannerMeta/templatepage/preloadimp
  • Still in use as a preload template
• Template:WPBannerMeta/templatepage/preloadmeta
  • Used by Template:WikiProject assessment category check
• Template:WPBannerMeta/templatepage/preloadqual
  • Used by Template:WikiProject assessment category check/row

Thanks! Gonnym (talk) 07:18, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for asking. I will check! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:26, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Hey, did you get a chance to take a look at these? Gonnym (talk) 06:23, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi, please see comments above — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:33, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:WPBannerMeta/hooks/numerical ratings/criterion

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Nomination for deletion of Template:WPBannerMeta/hooks/qualimpintersect/formats

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Nomination for deletion of Template:WPBannerMeta/core/doc

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Clarification on edit request

I read decline from you but El C was largely talking about 2 different articles which also include this and my request has nothing to do with it.

You already noted, there is no BLP violation. And when there is none then why the revert that was made with a false claim of "BLP" violation must not be reverted? The consensus on BLPN is very clear. Captain Jack Sparrow (talk) 13:57, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of List of dams in Fukui Prefecture for deletion

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Fram (talk) 12:21, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Discussion at Template talk:Expand section § Wording

 You are invited to join the discussion at Template talk:Expand section § Wording. QueenofBithynia (talk) 22:12, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Blockedtext

Could you take a look at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T314747, please? -- RoySmith (talk) 22:09, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hello, MSGJ

Thank you for creating List of dams in Saga Prefecture.

User:Ceyockey, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

I've worked to argue that this constitutes a new list type. Your input would be useful. --02:17, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

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Module:Authority control

Hi, I recently imported this module on bnwiki. Currently this module adds lots of category. I would like to disable all the category for all namespace, especially for main namespace (We don't have enough editors to maintain). Is there an easy way to do this in the module? আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 17:08, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

You could modify the getCatForId function — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:23, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

RfC started, feel free to add your view of the issues

I've started Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Wikidata lists, you'll proabbly be interested to present your point of view as well there. Fram (talk) 07:42, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:33, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Two boxes

Hi Martin! In regard to this edit, please see {{They}} where they have also applied two boxes. This seems to be what is wanted, so I applied both boxes to {{Their}}, as well. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^put'r there 11:19, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Seems excessive to me, especially as they both point to the same discussion? I assume the requests were made by an automated script rather than a deliberate choice. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:28, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Okay, I've asked the placing editor about this at Template talk:They#Edit request to complete TfD nominations. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^put'r there 12:17, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

WikidataIB

Hi!

I saw you recently edited WikidataIB and its sandbox. I would love to use it to achieve what is detailed here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Chemicals#Implementation

At the moment, it looks like we cannot have references and maxval limit at the same time. I am looking for some Lua wizard that could achieve this as I am not confident in doing it myself. Could you help? AdrianoRutz (talk) 06:25, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Lunar eclipses/century

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Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Wikidata_lists

Hi, I just saw this discussion. I will not participate in it because of who the proposer is, I just wanted to thank you for sharing your alternative viewpoint. You might also be interested in List of people killed by and disappeared during the Brazilian military dictatorship - which was started from a Wikidata list, and is actively being maintained on Wikidata by wikimedians in Brazil (it's a featured list on pwiki), but on enwiki it's now static so it won't get any updates from that work. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 13:20, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Mike. I know the bot-updated variations of these lists did not meet with community approval, but I believe the current approach using Module:Wikidata table will assuage most concerns. Of course there are a vocal minority who will oppose any such proposals but I think the discussion you have seen shows a balanced and pragmatic view from the community in general. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:45, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

By the way I have been working on a tool to make it easier to import data from Wikipedia tables into Wikidata. You might like to have a look at Module:Import table and an example of the results at Module talk:Import table/testcases — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:47, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

Good luck! The approach with creating individual table rows misses out on additions of new items to be included in the tables, which is a shame - the bot would have added them. But at least it's a step forward if enwiki accepts it. Making it easier to import data into Wikidata is also always good! I just wish we could stop arguing about 'us' vs. 'them' rather than just working together within Wikimedia. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 20:50, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

List of lighthouses in China

Just letting you know that List of lighthouses in China which you are editing now appears in Category:Articles using Cite rowlett template with invalid page designation. Have fun editing! --Muhandes (talk) 00:01, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

I just realized you are also editing Template:Cite Rowlett‎‎ so you are probably aware of this. --Muhandes (talk) 00:03, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

Kurose Dam is listed in two prefectures

I'm not familiar enough with Japan's prefecture system to say whether this is definitely a mistake, but both List of dams in Hiroshima Prefecture and List of dams in Ehime Prefecture include Kurose Dam.

Related to this issue, would it be possible to generate the lists automatically from a Wikidata SPARQL query (e.g. a query to grab all "dams located in the administrative territorial entity of Ehime Prefecture")? That way manual mistakes like this wouldn't be possible and these would be a lot easier to maintain. Nicereddy (talk) 17:53, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

Oh, actually looking at the source, I guess there are two separate dams both named Kurose Dam. It may be a mistake where the Wikidata items were merged together, despite representing distinct dams? Nicereddy (talk) 18:00, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out, and I have now fixed it. We have Kurose Dam (Q34862619) and Kurose Dam (Q11678520) so two separate items for these. In my defence it was incorrect in the original list that I split. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 19:49, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

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Script error

I think you may have broken the authority control at the bottom of AbbVie? It's currently reading "Lua error: invalid capture index %2 in replacement string." Frietjes (talk) 16:36, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

many more in Category:Pages with script errors. Frietjes (talk) 16:37, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

testing lua.

hi. i noticed that sometimes you make multiple edits while experimenting with lua and/or templates.

i wonder if you are familiar with the "preview" feature available on template and module in source code editor.

below the standard "preview", there is a 2nd one: preview some page processed using the code in the editor rather than the actual module/template.

this is essential when testing and debugging: for instance, this is the only way to view lua printouts produced by mw.log() and mw.logObject() (at the bottom of the preview, there's "lua logs", usually collapsed, somewhere under "parser report").

peace. קיפודנחש (aka kipod) (talk) 20:16, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. You are right, I have never used the "Preview page with this template" nor the "Debug console" because I didn't know how to use them! I will have a try, regards — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 23:03, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Empty tracking categories

Are categories like Category:Articles with faulty MusicBrainz instrument identifiers supposed to be empty, and are they supposed to remain active even when they are empty? They are marked for speedy deletion at the moment. I haven't dug into their history, but it is possible that one of your recent edits changed the way that they are populated or the way that the actual category pages look. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:09, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. I'll check on the rest of those categories now — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 23:15, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Module:Authority control/sandbox

Sorry, I forgot to revert myself before going to bed! –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 18:52, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:All articles with faulty authority control information

A tag has been placed on Category:All articles with faulty authority control information indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:46, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

Hello, MSGJ,

Have you noticed that Category:Articles with faulty authority control information is filled with over 90 empty categories? Is this system not used by editors any more? If not, we should remove the Empty Category tags and tag these unused, empty categories for CSD C1 deletion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:35, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi Liz. All those subcategories are still in use, actually. I had proposed to replace them with the single tracking category but another editor preferred to keep the subcategory system working too — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:36, 29 December 2022 (UTC)