User talk:Lunord22/sandbox

Latest comment: 5 years ago by Elmidae in topic Merged Procoelous Vertebrae

The draft looks really strong. All of the members of your group have multiple sources for their sections and all appear to be reliable. It seems like the work is split up well and it is good that you are going to create your own images if you cannot find the ones you are looking for without copyright issues. These seem like important sections to be added to the pages. Kurtames (talk) 01:12, 23 March 2019 (UTC)KurtamesReply


The inclusion of actual dissection images will be great to avoid copyright issues and directly represent the topics you guys have chosen. Armystud77 (talk) 16:37, 21 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

you guys did a good job at discussing what your plans were for for dissection pictures. To start prepping for those dissections you guys could start listing out the parts of the heart and vertebrae you are planning on labeling. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kxr 11 (talkcontribs) 16:43, 22 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

Peer Edit by GoldenRetriever21 edit

  • In the Snake vertebrae subsection draft there were multiple in-text citation superscript numbers made for the same source, which is an easy fix - when clicking the "Cite" button on the visual editor, just re-use one of your previously made citations.
  • Also, there are a couple of spelling and grammar edits that I would like to make to the Three-chambered Heart section. I will copy and paste a edited version here with the edited parts italicized:

"After looking at several Wikipedia pages regarding the snake anatomy, I want to add a picture of my own dissected snake heart and more information about it on the Snake page. In addition, I could also add a picture of the snake heart to the Reptile page since it only has a picture of an iguana heart. In particular, the Snake page is missing valuable information and a picture of the snake's three-chambered heart. Some things that I would like to add are:

  • My own dissected picture of a rattlesnake's three-chambered heart, which is fully labeled and free of any copyright issues. I have searched online for any pics, and there were no pictures of any snake hearts.
  • The snake's heart is divided into the atrium (heart) via two atria and one ventricle (heart) that is divided into three different chambers, which include the systemic and left-sided cavum arteriosum, the pulmonary and right‐sided cavum pulmonale, and the medial cavum venosum. These components allow the heart to provide oxygen and other nutrients throughout the body. [22]
  • The form and function of these hearts are different than mammalian hearts due to the fact that snakes have an elongated body, and thus are affected by different environmental factors. In particular, the snake's heart relative to the position in their body has been influenced greatly by gravity. Therefore, snakes that are larger in size tend to have a higher blood pressure due to gravitational change. This results in the heart being located in different ranges relative to the size of the snake's body length. [23]"

- taken from User:Lunord22/sandbox
--GoldenRetriever21 (talk) 21:24, 22 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

Peer Review by AICOI edit

Your draft is written in a neutral tone and your sources look reliable! Additionally, the majority of them are primary sources, which is good! You also have many sources for each section, which make your drafts more reliable. However, You have the same sources listed multiple times in your works cited. You can actually just cite it once, and then re-use your original citation. This will make your bibliography shorter and less repetitive/jumbled. I would also suggest adding a header for your bibliography section so that it looks more organized and is separated from the rest of your draft.

The page clearly outlines the work of each group member, and the distribution of work seems equally divided. I would suggest adding divisions within your sections to distinguish between future plans and ideas, and your actual draft that you will eventually put onto the Snake page.

I would suggest adding an overview photo of your iguana with the vertebral column dissected (with the four regions labeled) in addition to the pictures of the individual vertebrae. You might also consider linking some the more sophisticated/scientific words in your vertebrae and heat sensing pit sections, so that people who are not necessarily well versed in anatomy can understand (ex. trigeminal nerve).

Here are some comments that I have on the section below:

Original: "The snake's heart is divided into the atrium (heart) via two atria's and one ventricle (heart) that is divided into three different chambers, which include the systemic and left-sided cavum arteriosum, the pulmonary and right‐sided cavum pulmonale, and the medial cavum venosum. These components allow the heart to provide oxygen and other nutrients throughout the body."

Comments:

  • More than one atrium: atria
  • I think you should be more specific about how the components allow the heart provides oxygen and other nutrients to the body. You could talk about the flow of blood through the heart and around the body. This would also go hand in hand well with a labeled cross section of the snake heart. I think this would better clarify your section because right now its sounds a bit like a list of chambers, rather than a description of the form and function of the snake heart.

AICOI (talk) 01:22, 23 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

Merged Procoelous Vertebrae edit

Hi Lunord22, I have merged this content to the section "Other animals" of Vertebra, where anatomical variations such as this are treated. Unless this becomes so substantial that an individual article is warranted (i.e., a page or so), I would suggest keeping it here, and adding any further material in this subsection. If you want to add images, that would certainly be welcome! Cheers --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 22:48, 26 April 2019 (UTC)Reply